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[mellifera]

Gnas wrote...

yukidama wrote...
Oh my god, Ish xD
He only wishes he were so endowed.

Fixed it.

If it makes you feel better to think so, by all means 

[phyreblade74]

ZombieGeisha wrote...

Thats the main reason why I never kill off either sibling, the scene isn't worth it

I agree the scene falls flat in alot of ways. 

But I still think it makes more sense, than not, to kill off Bethany.  For my rogue and warrior Hawkes, the simple fact of being the utterly last member of the family that fled Fereldan is absolutely huge.  I think it adds a dynamic to that story, that it makes her outlook on Kirkwall, Fenris, and the rest of her companions that much greater.  In my head, it just means she's that much more intent on "taking care" of what's become her "family".

Carver is a different kettle of fish.  I think the angst he shares with Hawke is fun and enlivening.  Actually, it reminds me of my relationship with my own brothers.  I can relate to it utterly.  So when I have the chance to play it out, I do.  I leave him behind and let him become a Templar, so that he can tell Meredith, at the end, where to stick it as he holds his sword up in defense of his sister.  It's an awesome scene, imo.

[Shacary]

I stopped playing mid act 3 with Carver as a templar, I spose I really should finish it. My LadyHawke is a snarky mage, Of course Fen romance, She got " compelled" to hunt for the missing circle mages cuz of meredith basically threatening her I think. I could see Hawke hiring Zev for a slight assasination plan or even Isabela/varric?
what happens if you side with templars as mage and Carver templar ? Of course she will still try to arrest Hawke er wait she opts for killing, cullen okays arresting for tower imprisonment... wonder if Carver was ok with that decision too?!

[happy_daiz]

phyreblade74 wrote...

Carver is a different kettle of fish.  I think the angst he shares with Hawke is fun and enlivening.  Actually, it reminds me of my relationship with my own brothers.  I can relate to it utterly.  So when I have the chance to play it out, I do.  I leave him behind and let him become a Templar, so that he can tell Meredith, at the end, where to stick it as he holds his sword up in defense of his sister.  It's an awesome scene, imo.

That is the one playthrough I've never done; Carver always gets to be warden in my playthroughs. My curiosity is now piqued!

[Dr. Doctor]

Carver to me is the better sibling in terms of characterization. The banter between him and Hawke just has a spark to it that Bethany lacks.

[tankgirly]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Carver to me is the better sibling in terms of characterization. The banter between him and Hawke just has a spark to it that Bethany lacks.

Second.

[phyreblade74]

Shacary wrote...

I stopped playing mid act 3 with Carver as a templar, I spose I really should finish it. My LadyHawke is a snarky mage, Of course Fen romance, She got " compelled" to hunt for the missing circle mages cuz of meredith basically threatening her I think. I could see Hawke hiring Zev for a slight assasination plan or even Isabela/varric?
what happens if you side with templars as mage and Carver templar ? Of course she will still try to arrest Hawke er wait she opts for killing, cullen okays arresting for tower imprisonment... wonder if Carver was ok with that decision too?!

Since I've sided with the Templars every PT and, nope, never received the achievement for defending the mages (okay, maybe someday, shrug), I can say there's really no difference.  I always get the sense both Cullen and Carver expect Meredith is going to arrest and question Hawke and that's all.  Carver isn't overly concerned because he knows very well his sister is NOT any sort of dangerous mage.  I always suppose he imagined she would be exhonerated and released in short order.

What boggles my mind is why Meredith really expected so much different a reaction from Carver (and Cullen) when she suddenly announces she's going to kill Hawke.  I mean, she's just fought her way through the Circle, in support of the Templars.  What did Meredith really think they'd do?!  Mind-boggling.

[phyreblade74]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Carver to me is the better sibling in terms of characterization. The banter between him and Hawke just has a spark to it that Bethany lacks.

Completely agree!  I saw someone post in another forum how they wish we could've "chosen" our sibling, rather than let the game choose for us.  I remember thinking, "Oh, I'd play with Carver every time."  To me, he's more "real" than Bethany.

[phyreblade74]

happy_daiz wrote...

phyreblade74 wrote...

Carver is a different kettle of fish.  I think the angst he shares with Hawke is fun and enlivening.  Actually, it reminds me of my relationship with my own brothers.  I can relate to it utterly.  So when I have the chance to play it out, I do.  I leave him behind and let him become a Templar, so that he can tell Meredith, at the end, where to stick it as he holds his sword up in defense of his sister.  It's an awesome scene, imo.

That is the one playthrough I've never done; Carver always gets to be warden in my playthroughs. My curiosity is now piqued!

You can watch it on Youtube.  But it's fun to play it through.  I even got a bit of dialogue with Merril, where she comforts me about how Carver absents himself from my Hawke during the years after the Expedition.  She tells Hawke, "He loves you, truly.  He just has a hard time showing it."

[Shacary]

I agree about carver, I mean Bethany is sweet but really no personality, I will take a smart mouthed Carver any day but I dont want to play as a mage all the time either.
Ty Phyreblade for the feedback. I think mainly that the story doesnt change, no decision matters is the number one reason I cant seem to finish the story again. One PT pro-mage and one pro-templar, both endings felt cheap BUT at least there is the cool character of Fenris.

[Arquen]

I have to jump on the bandwagon and agree about Carver too. I much prefer him as a sibling than Bethany. I've had like 3 mage playthroughs and on the first 2 I made him a Grey Warden. On the 3rd mage I rivaled EVERYONE and made him into a Templar.

I was a blood mage, and let me tell you I don't recommend rivaling everyone. It.was.horrible. Especially Varric, he's such a douche as a rival. Back to the point - Templar Carver is not my favorite. The story doesn't really change much other than when he finds you he is with Meredith and is all "FU for letting mom die." Doesn't say 3 words to you really and then moves on. Later though when I sided with the mages he wanted to come with me but Meredith was all "you better remember your place and your calling as a Templar, boy." He said something like "I can't fight my sister this isn't what I wanted. I don't want this." Yet I couldn't convince him to side with me to fight against the Templars.

My favorite is siding with the mages as my snarky hawke mage with friendship Carver and the response "no hugs on the battlefield." I'm all "shut up your going to make me cry little brother!" He's all "onions under the caller.. Aveline's idea.. yeah..." with a big smile. If I had a brother I would assume him to be like Carver. The character is really well done.

Oh and just to bring it back to Fenris - I'm doing a male rogue playthrough and I DIDN'T romance him but i'm keeping him as a bro/max friend. He's actually a really great friend, LOL. He's so considerate with the "my problems aren't your problems, don't want to get you involved" thing. I'm dying a little inside romancing isabella on my m!Hawke but... I do love being bros with Fenris, LOL.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

tankgirly wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Carver to me is the better sibling in terms of characterization. The banter between him and Hawke just has a spark to it that Bethany lacks.

Second.

Third.

Is it so bad that I cried on my most recent PT in when I killed Carver because the previous PT I made him a Warden and got to see little brother grow up? 

=Edit=

Arquen wrote...

Oh and just to bring it back to Fenris - I'm doing a male rogue playthrough and I DIDN'T romance him but i'm keeping him as a bro/max friend. He's actually a really great friend, LOL. He's so considerate with the "my problems aren't your problems, don't want to get you involved" thing. I'm dying a little inside romancing isabella on my m!Hawke but... I do love being bros with Fenris, LOL.

I had fun on my *one* male!Hawke PT with Fenris and him as bros. 

...I should've made that Hawke's hair white. Just to screw with people. "Ah, Fenris here is my sixteenth cousin, fifteen times removed!" 

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 23 mai 2011 - 10:53 .

[tankgirly]

Arquen wrote...

I have to jump on the bandwagon and agree about Carver too. I much prefer him as a sibling than Bethany. I've had like 3 mage playthroughs and on the first 2 I made him a Grey Warden. On the 3rd mage I rivaled EVERYONE and made him into a Templar.

I was a blood mage, and let me tell you I don't recommend rivaling everyone. It.was.horrible. Especially Varric, he's such a douche as a rival. Back to the point - Templar Carver is not my favorite. The story doesn't really change much other than when he finds you he is with Meredith and is all "FU for letting mom die." Doesn't say 3 words to you really and then moves on. Later though when I sided with the mages he wanted to come with me but Meredith was all "you better remember your place and your calling as a Templar, boy." He said something like "I can't fight my sister this isn't what I wanted. I don't want this." Yet I couldn't convince him to side with me to fight against the Templars.

My favorite is siding with the mages as my snarky hawke mage with friendship Carver and the response "no hugs on the battlefield." I'm all "shut up your going to make me cry little brother!" He's all "onions under the caller.. Aveline's idea.. yeah..." with a big smile. If I had a brother I would assume him to be like Carver. The character is really well done.

Oh and just to bring it back to Fenris - I'm doing a male rogue playthrough and I DIDN'T romance him but i'm keeping him as a bro/max friend. He's actually a really great friend, LOL. He's so considerate with the "my problems aren't your problems, don't want to get you involved" thing. I'm dying a little inside romancing isabella on my m!Hawke but... I do love being bros with Fenris, LOL.

I had to do two rougue playthrough to romance Anders properly because I just couldn't be friend with Fenris. Yeah, Fenris being your best buddy is actually kind of cool!

Still prefer him to be the love of your life, though.

[Patriciachr34]

I'm having that problem in my current play through. I was intent on romancing Anders and making Fenris my friend, but Fenris is just so engaging. I can't help but flirt. And he's completely endearing when he says he will have to work on his flirting. I even modded Anders appearance to make him more visually appealing, but I just can't get past his abruptness and paranoia.

[MIndina]

Hey there. Sorry to randomly pop in, but I have a Fenris question. I was wondering what're the different ways to keep Fenris in the party if you pick the mages' side? I have a magey who was his rival (maxed, if I remember correctly) and I ended up having to kill him. Is there any way to avoid that? Or do you have to be maxed friend/in a romance with him? Thanks in advance! :3

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

@MIndina

If he was maxed Rival, he should have stayed (Fenris sticks with Hawke siding with the mages as long as you've maxed out either Friendship or Rivalry). I've never heard otherwise.

If you weren't fully maxed out, but really close, he'll leave, but you can convince him to come back to the party (I know that through a friend from when his first time through, he nearly had Fenris maxed at full Rival, but not all the way there, and Fenris left, but he managed to convince him to come back to the party).

[MIndina]

Alright, thanks. 'Cause that's my main playthrough, and I'd prefer Fenris -not- dead in DA3, even if he doesn't show up.

[autumnyte]

@MIndina - just echoing the fact that if he's at 100% rivalry, he won't leave. So getting him maxed out, if you can, is probably the safest bet.

[Arquen]

tankgirly wrote...

I had to do two rougue playthrough to romance Anders properly because I just couldn't be friend with Fenris. Yeah, Fenris being your best buddy is actually kind of cool!

Still prefer him to be the love of your life, though.

I think Fenris will always be "the love of my life" LMAO. My boyfriend says to me "so how is lover boy today?" since I have him all over my computer and phone and I'm always on here or playing DA2 lately, LOL. Im such a fangirl it's pathetic. I have philisophical debates about DA2 and DA:O . Not just Fenris though, while he is my favorite, I do love to talk about all aspects of the game and the philosophy. Such a nerd I know.. I know...

Seriously though, it is fun for me to actually not romance him. I've never done a playthrough where I haven't romanced him. I only feel bad because I'm romancing Isabella on my male Hawke and that means Fenris gets no lover at all . In my head cannon he meets one of my Hawkes from another playthrough and all is well, LOL.

[Coraline989]

I know that this is way off-topic, but I just saw the new pirates of the caribbean movie and decided that the bible thumper guy wasn't all that preachy, but then I realized that I'd gotten too used to Sebastian

[Fault Girl]

Every playthrough I've gone through as been romance Fenris, I cant romance anyone else. My next one is going to be pro-templar, which is going to be hard for me but Fenris will pull me through. Also got to do a mage run.

I really want some DLC announced or anything really!

[Cawti35]

Coraline989 wrote...

I know that this is way off-topic, but I just saw the new pirates of the caribbean movie and decided that the bible thumper guy wasn't all that preachy, but then I realized that I'd gotten too used to Sebastian

That's so funny.  My honey is playing Witcher 2 and I swear that Sebastian's voice actor plays one of the roles in that game.  It was weird hearingwhat sounded like Sebastian not preaching.

[Cawti35]

happy_daiz wrote...

phyreblade74 wrote...

Carver is a different kettle of fish.  I think the angst he shares with Hawke is fun and enlivening.  Actually, it reminds me of my relationship with my own brothers.  I can relate to it utterly.  So when I have the chance to play it out, I do.  I leave him behind and let him become a Templar, so that he can tell Meredith, at the end, where to stick it as he holds his sword up in defense of his sister.  It's an awesome scene, imo.

That is the one playthrough I've never done; Carver always gets to be warden in my playthroughs. My curiosity is now piqued!

I finally made Bethany a warden recently and was surprised by the change in her.  She actually seems to adapt quite well to the circle, but she becomes so hard as a warden.  I felt really guilty for taking her to Stroud.

[Lewie]

Cawti35 wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

phyreblade74 wrote...

Carver is a different kettle of fish.  I think the angst he shares with Hawke is fun and enlivening.  Actually, it reminds me of my relationship with my own brothers.  I can relate to it utterly.  So when I have the chance to play it out, I do.  I leave him behind and let him become a Templar, so that he can tell Meredith, at the end, where to stick it as he holds his sword up in defense of his sister.  It's an awesome scene, imo.

That is the one playthrough I've never done; Carver always gets to be warden in my playthroughs. My curiosity is now piqued!

I finally made Bethany a warden recently and was surprised by the change in her.  She actually seems to adapt quite well to the circle, but she becomes so hard as a warden.  I felt really guilty for taking her to Stroud.

Same here i adore Carver, he is like my brother also and he relates best to snarky sis/hawke i noticed. Its just how i get on with my brother. It was nice how carver also stood beside cullen at the end against meredith.