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[Dr. Doctor]

Prompt time.

City Guard

Hightown Estates

Guardsman:  Another day, another boring patrol of Hightown. All that's left is to go check out that abandoned mansion over there.

Guardsman #2: We can't go in there! I hear that an ancient and powerful oracle lives in there and when the Champion herself needs guidance only she can come and go from that building unharmed.

Donnic: You're daft, all it is is an old crumbling mansion. The captain just wants it swept for squatters. If you want you two can go back to the barracks and I'll check it out.

Guardsman: You'd do that for us?

Donnic: I would.

Guardsman: Maker bless you then Donnic. (the two Guardsmen walk off and Donnic enters the mansion)

Fenris: (shuffling a Diamondback deck) Ready for our game?

Donnic: It seems foolish to gamble with an all-knowing oracle.

Fenris: (chuckles) Ah, Varric at his finest. If I was all-knowing I wouldn't owe you five silvers.

[Meeszy Alexy]

beckaliz wrote...


-Snip-

Scanner is my friend.

http://pommegranite....There-210970127

Wow... nice colouring work there. I suck at that, so I have to stick to writing.

In other news, I'm trying to romance Anders. As a result, Fenris has the highest friendship in the group, and I've flirted with him many, many times. This should tell you how well it's going...

[Tealsie]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

beckaliz wrote...


-Snip-

Scanner is my friend.

http://pommegranite....There-210970127

Wow... nice colouring work there. I suck at that, so I have to stick to writing.

In other news, I'm trying to romance Anders. As a result, Fenris has the highest friendship in the group, and I've flirted with him many, many times. This should tell you how well it's going...

Along these lines?

http://ceruleancresc...llery/#/d3ce827
Any excuse to bring up that comic.

And beckaliz, that picture is beautiful.  What'd you use to color?

[beckaliz]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

beckaliz wrote...


-Snip-

Scanner is my friend.

http://pommegranite....There-210970127

Wow... nice colouring work there. I suck at that, so I have to stick to writing.

In other news, I'm trying to romance Anders. As a result, Fenris has the highest friendship in the group, and I've flirted with him many, many times. This should tell you how well it's going...

Thanks! I enjoyed drawing this.

On my first PT I friendmanced Anders, and didn't travel around with Fenris much. So it has made it easier for me to subsequently romance whoever I like. But even though I friendmanced Anders, I got him up to 100% friendship before my Hawke started to really hate the Kirkwall mages for everything that happens throughout the game, esp. act 3 (even though he was fully supportive of the beginning and still loves his little sister more than anything). So he stayed friend even though Correm told him to shut his trap when he spoke back to Meredith, and basically was always agreeing with Fenris by the end. XD

[Meeszy Alexy]

Tealsie wrote...

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

beckaliz wrote...


-Snip-

Scanner is my friend.

http://pommegranite....There-210970127

Wow... nice colouring work there. I suck at that, so I have to stick to writing.

In other news, I'm trying to romance Anders. As a result, Fenris has the highest friendship in the group, and I've flirted with him many, many times. This should tell you how well it's going...

Along these lines?

http://ceruleancresc...llery/#/d3ce827
Any excuse to bring up that comic.

And beckaliz, that picture is beautiful.  What'd you use to color?

That... sums up my current playthrough FAR TOO WELL. Gah! At least I can take comfort in the fact that there are others in my position. Damn Fenris. He's too adorable and awesome!

[beckaliz]

Tealsie wrote...

And beckaliz, that picture is beautiful.  What'd you use to color?

Prismacolor pencils! They are so bright and smooth~! <3

[Meeszy Alexy]

beckaliz wrote...

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

beckaliz wrote...


-Snip-

Scanner is my friend.

http://pommegranite....There-210970127

Wow... nice colouring work there. I suck at that, so I have to stick to writing.

In other news, I'm trying to romance Anders. As a result, Fenris has the highest friendship in the group, and I've flirted with him many, many times. This should tell you how well it's going...

Thanks! I enjoyed drawing this.

On my first PT I friendmanced Anders, and didn't travel around with Fenris much. So it has made it easier for me to subsequently romance whoever I like. But even though I friendmanced Anders, I got him up to 100% friendship before my Hawke started to really hate the Kirkwall mages for everything that happens throughout the game, esp. act 3 (even though he was fully supportive of the beginning and still loves his little sister more than anything). So he stayed friend even though Correm told him to shut his trap when he spoke back to Meredith, and basically was always agreeing with Fenris by the end. XD

My problem is that I can't help but agree with the templars! (Well, Cullen anyway) I even chose a mage to make it slightly harder to Friendmance Fenris! And he's still got the highest Friendship score!

[beckaliz]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

beckaliz wrote...

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

beckaliz wrote...


-Snip-

Scanner is my friend.

http://pommegranite....There-210970127

Wow... nice colouring work there. I suck at that, so I have to stick to writing.

In other news, I'm trying to romance Anders. As a result, Fenris has the highest friendship in the group, and I've flirted with him many, many times. This should tell you how well it's going...

Thanks! I enjoyed drawing this.

On my first PT I friendmanced Anders, and didn't travel around with Fenris much. So it has made it easier for me to subsequently romance whoever I like. But even though I friendmanced Anders, I got him up to 100% friendship before my Hawke started to really hate the Kirkwall mages for everything that happens throughout the game, esp. act 3 (even though he was fully supportive of the beginning and still loves his little sister more than anything). So he stayed friend even though Correm told him to shut his trap when he spoke back to Meredith, and basically was always agreeing with Fenris by the end. XD

My problem is that I can't help but agree with the templars! (Well, Cullen anyway) I even chose a mage to make it slightly harder to Friendmance Fenris! And he's still got the highest Friendship score!

I know what you mean! The templars are meanie poops, but Hawke just meets more and more psychotic blood mages as time goes on... It's hard to stick up for the mages just on principle, just because they're oppressed. It's like they've already gone past the point of no return when you get into Act 2, and it's just a matter of how fast they slide down the slope after that.

I'm currently testing out a mage-hating mage PT. XD But he's also just a real jerk in general, so we'll see how it affects rivalry and friendship scores at the end.

[Arquen]

 "I would like to go one WEEK without meeting an insane mage, JUST ONE WEEK!"

I flip flop from the mages/templars each playthrough. I just *facepalm* every time when I'm sitting there running to help the mages and I'm fighting ABOMINATIONS AND TEMPLARS along the way.

Could have saved myself some stress and just killed the abominations WITH the templars. Meanwhile Fenris' is in my head laughing going "Told you so, told u so, TOLD YOU SO!" I'm all alright, I get it. Mages are weak sauce and become abominations, my BAD for being naive and wanting to help the few I could. Then *facepalm* some more as Orsino becomes a freakin' abomination.

Orsino: Meredith expects blood magic? Then I will give it to her. Maker help us all.
Hawke: *facepalm* is he serious!? Orsino are you seriously going to use blood mag-- (orsino turns into an abomination)
Fenris: Hawke...
Hawke: NOt One Word, Fenris... I swear... not one word.
Fenris: (snaps his mouth shut before he can voice his thought...)
Hawke:(charges into battle, cursing and yelling about bloody abominations god damn crazy mages... etc..)
Fenris: (softly) told you so...

Modifié par Arquen, 30 mai 2011 - 06:00 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

The problem with crazy mages is that it's really hard to chicken/egg here. The best example we have is this:

Society where mages are above everyone: Mages go crazy all the time.
Society where mages are abused: Mages go crazy all the time.
Society where mages are treated as equals: highest mage stability rate, somewhere around 99%+ stable

I can never pick the Templars in the end, even at the end of Fenris friendmance playthroughs. I have more confidence that I can stop a society with free mages from becoming Tevinter than I do that I can reform a millenium-old religion by asking nicely. Then again I'm still a Dalish at heart, and all Dalish women are crazy.

[Arquen]

not to mention the enigma of Kirkwall. Those mysterious messages left around here and there that pretty much say Kirkwall has an over-abundance of magic and especially blood magic for whatever reason. *cue twilight zone music*

I don't think it is chicken/egg. Anders would like you to believe it is, LOL. That the society forces people into blood magic, but I still believe that everyone has a choice. I think even Anders would agree with that.. "can't you people just say no!?"

Yet left to police themselves, it becomes a backstab/ whoever is most powerful wins game.. hence *bam* magisters. So they use blood magic freely, collar their own mages who are weak or perhaps try to rule justly. Assassinate the archons that try to promote change. All very Antivan if you ask me.

So, I do usually end up with Templars, but then I think "help help i'm being repressed!" whenever I kill a poor circle mage >.<, and so the next time I pick the mages, LOL.

[beckaliz]

One thing that I really love about DA2... which has me playing it over multiple times where I've only gotten through DAO 1.5 times... It just feels a lot more personal. It feels more about the characters than about the epic campaign. Some people prefer the epic campaign, but I've always, ALWAYS been in love with characters, in the general sense. (I was gonna say that I even like bad guys if they're well-written, but then I remembered my complete utter loathing for Sister Patrice... D: ... )

The "three-year-gap" has been spoken of many-many times, and how it doesn't make perfect sense, but aside from that I really love the tragic nature to romancing Fenris. I mean, he's got violence in his heart and demons in his past (brownies for recognizing my reference, though it's probably too obvious to this bunch) but he's got such a deep soul, and you can see it so well if you just go talk to him.

It's funny, romancing Fenris is tragic near the beginning, but then once you help him free himself from the chains he's put around his own heart, he totally blossoms and is the best most loyal partner you can probably have. I haven't romanced Merril yet, and I can imagine she's loyal, but she's naive and has made some huge mistakes. (Plus I prefer a more confident force of will in somebody anyway, and during rivalmance I'm actually turned on when he's yelling at me. XD But I'm an odd duck.)

I really need an Amell to import from DAO... I don't have one. My DAO canon is a Surana. But I definitely want to do a "family line" PT through both games with just Amells.

Modifié par beckaliz, 30 mai 2011 - 08:18 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Arquen wrote...

not to mention the enigma of Kirkwall. Those mysterious messages left around here and there that pretty much say Kirkwall has an over-abundance of magic and especially blood magic for whatever reason. *cue twilight zone music*

I don't think it is chicken/egg. Anders would like you to believe it is, LOL. That the society forces people into blood magic, but I still believe that everyone has a choice. I think even Anders would agree with that.. "can't you people just say no!?"

Yet left to police themselves, it becomes a backstab/ whoever is most powerful wins game.. hence *bam* magisters. So they use blood magic freely, collar their own mages who are weak or perhaps try to rule justly. Assassinate the archons that try to promote change. All very Antivan if you ask me.

So, I do usually end up with Templars, but then I think "help help i'm being repressed!" whenever I kill a poor circle mage >.<, and so the next time I pick the mages, LOL.

The reason I like Fenders so much is that they are so goddamn similar and they will never see it. I just want Hawke to sit down between them and explain it. The problem is that Hawke doesn't have the perspective needed to do so. It would take the combined power of Hawke and the Warden to make them understand, and well... apparently you can't fit that much awesome into one game.

We're not just talking about blood magic here. The best example of the whole "they push you until you break, they push you and push you, and then use your breaking as proof that all mages will one day break." is... well... DA:A Anders.

The reason Anders broke and Hawke didn't isn't because Hawke is stronger. It is because Hawke has not gone through one tenth of the crap that Anders went through.

Anders was basically a slave who tried to escape as peacefully and nonviolently as he could. He tried it over and over again, and just when he finally thought he might be free... cursed to a slow death, but free, his master returns to place a boot on his neck and tell him "you will never be free. You will never be happy. Anything that you love, anything that gives you a taste of what it feels like to be human, we can take from you." Sound freaking familiar?

If it weren't for the Templars' desire to overstep their bounds, to overrule the Grey Wardens, to torture Anders even when he had devoted himself to stopping the blight... we would not have a Chantry explotion. I'm certain of it. If they had just let him stay with Nate, or the Warden; if they had just let him keep his cat... if they had let the Wardens watch over him, as they had been successfully doing over Warden mages from time immemorial... then there would have been no Chantry bomb. There would have been no vengeance. There would have just been a kind man who liked to heal people and pet kittens.

The problem is, there's no one in Thedas who can plausibly explain this to Fenris. Anders himself is too broken, Hawke never knew the original Anders, and the Warden is... lost.

It's the saddest story. There's no LOL at all.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 30 mai 2011 - 08:23 .

[beckaliz]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Arquen wrote...

not to mention the enigma of Kirkwall.
Those mysterious messages left around here and there that pretty much
say Kirkwall has an over-abundance of magic and especially blood magic
for whatever reason. *cue twilight zone music*

I don't think it
is chicken/egg. Anders would like you to believe it is, LOL. That the
society forces people into blood magic, but I still believe that
everyone has a choice. I think even Anders would agree with that..
"can't you people just say no!?"

Yet left to police themselves,
it becomes a backstab/ whoever is most powerful wins game.. hence *bam*
magisters. So they use blood magic freely, collar their own mages who
are weak or perhaps try to rule justly. Assassinate the archons that try
to promote change. All very Antivan if you ask me.

So, I do
usually end up with Templars, but then I think "help help i'm being
repressed!" whenever I kill a poor circle mage >.<, and so the
next time I pick the mages, LOL.

The reason I like Fenris/Anders so much is that they are so goddamn similar and they will never see it. I just want Hawke to sit down between them and explain it. The problem is that Hawke doesn't have the perspective needed to do so. It would take the combined power of Hawke and the Warden to make them understand, and well... apparently you can't fit that much awesome into one game.

We're not just talking about blood magic here. The best example of the whole "they push you until you break, they push you and push you, and then use your breaking as proof that all mages will one day break." is... well... DA:A Anders.

The reason Anders broke and Hawke didn't isn't because Hawke is stronger. It is because Hawke has not gone through one tenth of the crap that Anders went through.

Anders was basically a slave who tried to escape as peacefully and nonviolently as he could. He tried it over and over again, and just when he finally thought he might be free... cursed to a slow death, but free, his master returns to place a boot on his neck and tell him "you will never be free. You will never be happy. Anything that you love, anything that gives you a taste of what it feels like to be human, we can take from you."

If it weren't for the Templars desire to overstep their bounds, to overrule the Grey Wardens, to torture Anders even when he had devoted himself to stopping the blight... we would not have a Chantry explotion. I'm certain of it. If they had just let him stay with Nate, or the Warden; if they had just let him keep his cat... if they had let the Wardens watch over him, as they had been successfully doing over Warden mages from time immemorial... then there would have been no Chantry bomb. There would have been no vengeance. There would have just been a kind man who liked to heal people and pet kittens.

The problem is, there's no one in Thedas who can plausibly explain this to Fenris. Anders himself is too broken, Hawke never knew the original Anders, and the Warden is... lost.

It's the saddest story. There's no LOL at all.

I agree with you completely. Thanks for putting that to words. I can never dislike Anders... He's so downtrodden but he keeps trying and trying, and he might be really angry inside but he still cares about other people. (I mean, even joining with Justice was an unselfish act to begin with, even though it changed both of them forever for the worse.) I love Fenris to death, but he's pretty selfish through most of the game. The only thing that would drag him out of it is respect/love for Hawke.

When I first saw Anders blow up the Chantry, I literally sat there staring with my mouth gaping open, I was in such shock. I was heartbroken, but he himself had said that he'd break my heart.  (It also goes to show how much events can change Hawke, because despite loving him very much, Correm killed him for what he did. T_T;; I had to play again and romance Fenris to get the achievement.)

[Caoilfhionn]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Anders was basically a slave who tried to escape as peacefully and nonviolently as he could. He tried it over and over again, and just when he finally thought he might be free... cursed to a slow death, but free, his master returns to place a boot on his neck and tell him "you will never be free. You will never be happy. Anything that you love, anything that gives you a taste of what it feels like to be human, we can take from you." Sound freaking familiar?
 

I'm not certain I agree, actually. I admit that Anders' is a sad story and it's a shame that Justice and he have become what they are, but Anders has never really been a slave in the way that Fenris has, but insists on seeing all mages as such. The Kirkwall templars have a few obsessed nutjobs, sure--Meredith being the foremost among those, but by and large they aren't oppressive mage-haters. If you send Bethany to the Circle even her view on it (before Meredith goes insane, at least) is that most of the templars are decent people doing their jobs, and the Circle isn't that bad. And by all accounts, the Fereldan Circle was much more lenient than in Kirkwall.

My take on the Mage/Templar situation in my first playthrough was more or less in line with what Stark says at the beginning of the kidnap scene. How they wanted a working Circle that protects and teaches mages. Which seems the best outcome for everyone, even the mages, given the whole issue of being overwhelmed and possessed by demons without the training to prevent it. The problem comes when every mage believes they're the exception to a good general rule and thus should be "free".

Of course, then I sided with the mages in that playthrough and Orsino made me go "...You did not just do that. You make it so hard to defend you people" to the screen. Heh. So within the confines of the game, I've now found myself siding with templars as the more socially responsible choice, even if it means cracking a few...er, mages, to make an omlette.

So all that to say, yes, I think Anders' devolution into something less than his former self is sad, pitiable even, but I blame it more on his refusal to accept the responsibilty placed on him to assure people remain safe by obeying reasonable laws.

beckaliz wrote...

I love Fenris to death, but he's pretty selfish through most of the game. The only thing that would drag him out of it is respect/love for Hawke.

I'm not sure about Fenris being selfish. Opinionated and biased by his past, certainly, but not selfish. And I can't really disagree with his main point. Given the proclivity of mages in Kirkwall to turn to blood magic at seemingly the slightest provocation, he isn't wrong. There are exceptions, like Bethany, but they're disappointingly rare. He's been given every reason to be distrustful of mages by 20- or 30-some years of exceptionally bad treatment at their hands. And then of three mage companions in your group, one is a blood mage and another is a mass murderer.

Modifié par Caoilfhionn, 30 mai 2011 - 09:17 .

[Arquen]

Every character in DA2 is selfish at least at first. I realized that Hawke is one giant sucker. Hawke is a strong and capable person, willing to do any mundane job for personal gain/family gain/whatever. Varric recognizes the talent in Hawke immediately and approaches him/her right away to take advantage of it. Furthermore, Aveline, Anders, Fenris, Aveline, and even Isabela and Merrill use Hawke for their own vested gains at first. Aveline uses Hawke as a chance to start over in Kirkwall, Anders uses Hawke as a powerful person to help him "rescue" his friend from the Templars and then decides to stick around Hawke because he/she could prove a useful ally in the future he has planned. Isabela wants your capableness to find her relic for her and then ditch you. Merrill wants you as a friend in the city and an ally to help her complete her eluvian.

Fenris is the only one who makes no qualms or excuses - I want to kill my master, I want to stop being hunted, help me and I'll help you as best I can. He is genuine in his request, and I don't think it is so much selfish as it is that he just wants someone like Hawke to help him because that is the best choice.

As for Hawke, a living weapon who is a warrior unlike any other offers his services to you, and you need all the help you can get. All you have to do is find some mage and help this guy kill him. Well, why the hell not?

I don't see Fenris as capable of being outright selfish honestly. He is loyal, and he follows, but he doesn't do anything for his own personal self other than what he told you before - killing his master. His views are colored based on his personal experience with mages, no doubt, but he doesn't say or do things simply for himself, but rather just states fact/opinion as he knows it. He tries to be helpful moreso than anything.

[beckaliz]

@ Caoilfhionn and Arquen

Good points! Thanks. I guess what I'm thinking about when I say he's a little selfish is that, Anders has his clinic and healing people, and Aveline is doing her duty in the guard and she cares about the welfare of her men, Merrill is doing what she thinks is right for her people in reclaiming their past,... Isabella and Varric make no qualms about being mostly concerned with minding their own business actually, aside from helping Hawke. Sebastian is a church man, and I think he fulfills the stereotype to a certain degree. I imagine him doing stuff for the poor and all that.

I can't say that I wouldn't be concerned with only my own business if I was in Fenris' shoes. (Or... er... lack thereof.) As Hawke says in A Bitter Pill, there are reasons why he can't move on. And considering his situation, he's perfectly justified in being selfish. I'm a firm believer that you have to be selfish sometimes to get through life intact. The word "selfish" doesn't always have to be negative. It doesn't always mean that you don't care about others at all, just that you're concerned first and foremost with your own business. It just doesn't seem to me like he has a vested interest in anyone else's welfare, aside from those closest to him.

That isn't to say he won't ever develop one, when all things are said and done. He's been kind of occupied with the whole, y'know, "my former master might show up at any time to capture me" thing. Who knows, maybe he'll want to campaign against the Imperium now that Danarius is dead. Join the Fog Warriors. Something.

What do you think about that?

[Arquen]

I don't see Fenris doing anything drastic like turning rebel leader against the Imperium. He would most likely never go back there, ever.

Fenris was never "close" to anyone. As a slave he was just existing, and never had a friend or family or anything to compare to. That being said he obviously feels that slavery in itself is wrong and does attempt to free slaves and enact revenge on any slavers he finds. He takes mercenary jobs and remains "a ghost" in society.

His future, I believe will always be with Hawke or alone. I think eventually he will go his separate way (if not romanced). I don't think he would join the Fog Warriors again, to much guilt over what happened, but I think he would find his own place in the world eventually.

I think if it isn't with Hawke it would be with Isabela, and if not Isabela then he would eventually leave of his own accord and probably continue doing mercenary work. I think he would eventually start using his abilities and powers for good. I could see him being a mercenary type person who would deliberately seek out slavers and destroy them. That is all stipulation though of what his life would be like if he wasn't romanced to Hawke.

In my head canon the two stay together and become inseparable. Even on the rival path they would provide counter-balance to eachother. I always tend to see Fenris' future is at Hawke's side and they would both be fugitives from Kirkwall. He already knows how to survive as a wanted man, so I think he would fit the role of protectorate quite well. His fierce loyalty is his best trait after all.

I think he really doesn't know how to have a "vested interest" in others to be honest. He really does try to be helpful, and he even tries to be part of the group accepting invites from Varric to the Hanged man and joking with the other party members. He sees Donnic for card games, and he has Aveline and Isabela in his home to discuss tax collectors, his squatting, etc. which means he contacts them outside of the time he spends with Hawke. They would be people he would protect, and I think he does eventually come to care about their wellbeing. I know he respects Isabela, and Aveline as well. Even Sebastian he gets along with despite the chantry rantings, lol.

[ReiSilver]

a little WIP of a picture of my Hawke and Fenris, hopefully I'll finish it soon.

[Annarl]

Arquen wrote...

Every character in DA2 is selfish at least at first. I realized that Hawke is one giant sucker. Hawke is a strong and capable person, willing to do any mundane job for personal gain/family gain/whatever. Varric recognizes the talent in Hawke immediately and approaches him/her right away to take advantage of it. Furthermore, Aveline, Anders, Fenris, Aveline, and even Isabela and Merrill use Hawke for their own vested gains at first. Aveline uses Hawke as a chance to start over in Kirkwall, Anders uses Hawke as a powerful person to help him "rescue" his friend from the Templars and then decides to stick around Hawke because he/she could prove a useful ally in the future he has planned. Isabela wants your capableness to find her relic for her and then ditch you. Merrill wants you as a friend in the city and an ally to help her complete her eluvian.

Fenris is the only one who makes no qualms or excuses - I want to kill my master, I want to stop being hunted, help me and I'll help you as best I can. He is genuine in his request, and I don't think it is so much selfish as it is that he just wants someone like Hawke to help him because that is the best choice.

As for Hawke, a living weapon who is a warrior unlike any other offers his services to you, and you need all the help you can get. All you have to do is find some mage and help this guy kill him. Well, why the hell not?

I don't see Fenris as capable of being outright selfish honestly. He is loyal, and he follows, but he doesn't do anything for his own personal self other than what he told you before - killing his master. His views are colored based on his personal experience with mages, no doubt, but he doesn't say or do things simply for himself, but rather just states fact/opinion as he knows it. He tries to be helpful moreso than anything.

I agree.  There were times I wanted to grab Hawke and say you're being used here buddy smarten up.   At least Fenris is up front with what he wants and in turn offers his loyaly whether rival or friend (unless his bar is in the middle which as never happened to me).  He doesn't have a hidden agenda unlike everyone else in the game.  Or so it seems.

[beckaliz]

ReiSilver wrote...

a little WIP of a picture of my Hawke and Fenris, hopefully I'll finish it soon.

-cut image-

That's cute! I like how you've drawn Fenris's face. Looking forward to the final product.

[beckaliz]

 I love characters with dark pasts, with a goodly amount of angst. I also love characters with questionable pasts. So basically, all of the companions.  Though, Varric is just a smartass, and doesn't start off with any real angst, he just acquires a little bit of it.

I would, in fact, not actually WANT Fenris to turn into an anti-slaver vigilante like Anders is an anti-Templar vigilante.

[Rinji the Bearded]

beckaliz wrote...

I would, in fact, not actually WANT Fenris to turn into an anti-slaver vigilante like Anders is an anti-Templar vigilante.

I would have liked something more out of him like that.  I would have totally helped him, too.  Besides, being an anti-slaver vigilante sounds more of a black and white issue than mages/templars.  If I recall, slavers are always bad people.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 31 mai 2011 - 03:56 .

[Eranelle]

just want to share this to all fenris fans