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[ReiSilver]

I just heard this for the first time where Isabella talks to Aveline about getting adventurous in bed with Donnic and Fenris chuckles in the background.
Fenris! You naughty, naughty man you!

[Arquen]

The trick with Isabela is that you have to "have fun" before you sleep with Fenris. I think if you sleep with anyone after he leaves then somehow he finds out about it and goes "well she/he moved on. guess I will as well."

You can sleep with Isabela for fun, but I believe you have to do it before Fenris. Anders is alright as long as you don't sleep with him and toss him out at his "beast" speech.

Also, the box.. the best description we have is that it was "lyrium" from Anso. Of course most people assume that is a lie and what was really in the box is a trap, but Fenris was lured to it because he thought it was something more. That something being the ever present mystery.

In my personal opinion it was either information about Danarius coming to Kirkwall and where he was hiding (which Fenris found on the dead guard anyways) or something about his past that was "leaked" for him to be interested in. It could be information on how he was being tracked by Danarius, something about recovering his memories, even something about his real name and personal history. Even if it was documents or something he would be tempted to find these things and just have someone read them to him (willing or no, lol). Yet Fenris being Fenris realizes it is just a trap, looks mildly disappointed but not surprised and forgets all about it. Meanwhile Hawke is like.. but... what were you expecting? telll meeeeee

Hawke: so what were you expecting to find in the box?

Fenris: it is not important. It was a trap, nothing more.

Hawke: but.. but...

Fenris: It is not important. The chest was empty.

Hawke: but.. I HAVE to know what you thought it was! It's killing me not to know!

Fenris: It's been 10 years Hawke, I can't believe you still remember that. I just don't see how it is still bothering you after all this time.

Hawke: It drives me mad! I keep thinking about that day, and your face, and how you were so disappointed. What did you hope to find? tell meeee.

Fenris: I don't remember now...

Hawke: what? seriously? YOU ALWAYS say that.

Fenris: because it is true. It was not important. I don't remember. Leave it be.

Hawke: HmfpH! Fine. Don't tell me. I'll learn your secrets! Just you wait! (leaves in a huff)

Fenris: (under his breath) I don't think the "don't remember" excuse is going to work much longer... hmm. Must think of something new.

[Tanathir]

Whew, just caught up with a lot of pages of posts!  class this month has been kicking my *** and taking up my time.  I have had some time on the weekends though to play my Sims 2 game.  I made another version of Fenris than the lovely van squirgle.  LOVE her Dragon Age Sims, by the way...she's such a fun fellow gamer.

My version of SimFenris:

Modifié par Tanathir, 21 juin 2011 - 08:14 .

[Meeszy Alexy]

ReiSilver wrote...

I just heard this for the first time where Isabella talks to Aveline about getting adventurous in bed with Donnic and Fenris chuckles in the background.
Fenris! You naughty, naughty man you!

...ahahaha wow. I had this conversation a few times before, but I've had Merrill/Anders in Fenris' place, making Fenris' reaction all the funnier. Why? He's the only one that cracks up at that.  

[elenilote]

Tanathir wrote...

Whew, just caught up with a lot of pages of posts!  class this month has been kicking my *** and taking up my time.  I have had some time on the weekends though to play my Sims 2 game.  I made another version of Fenris than the lovely van squirgle.  LOVE her Dragon Age Sims, by the way...she's such a fun fellow gamer.

~snips~

*mwah* you are back! Missed you!!!!

Anyway, I am here to shamelessly plug my latest fic, featuring Sebastian and Fenris. Aaaand you guessed it, it's totally NSFW. It's called He's So Lovely (title stolen from the Bowling for Girls song) and you can find it here 

[Red_Jezzabelle]

Tanathir wrote...

LMAO ... too funny! 

[R2s Muse]

tankgirly wrote...

@R2s Muse your siggy.....do you happened to have the character swapping with Cullen vid?

@tankygirly I'm afraid I don't know how to make a vid myself   and I haven't seen one floating around yet. I do have a bunch of screenshots, tho, some of which are here and  here. Apropos to this thread, a few are from a Fenris body swap (the "command me to go" scene, which is my fave of the glowy against the wall ones).

@Arquen I bet  you're right that the box had to have something alluring to Fenris, probably dealing with his past in some way. It would also be fun if it were a SOMETHING, like some memento that was minor but somehow meaningful to Fenris. Something he told himself was no big deal, but really was.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 21 juin 2011 - 01:27 .

[Annarl]

Tanathir wrote...

Whew, just caught up with a lot of pages of posts!  class this month has been kicking my *** and taking up my time.  I have had some time on the weekends though to play my Sims 2 game.  I made another version of Fenris than the lovely van squirgle.  LOVE her Dragon Age Sims, by the way...she's such a fun fellow gamer.

My version of SimFenris:

I love it.  WOW!!

[Annarl]

Arquen wrote...

The trick with Isabela is that you have to "have fun" before you sleep with Fenris. I think if you sleep with anyone after he leaves then somehow he finds out about it and goes "well she/he moved on. guess I will as well."

You can sleep with Isabela for fun, but I believe you have to do it before Fenris. Anders is alright as long as you don't sleep with him and toss him out at his "beast" speech.

Also, the box.. the best description we have is that it was "lyrium" from Anso. Of course most people assume that is a lie and what was really in the box is a trap, but Fenris was lured to it because he thought it was something more. That something being the ever present mystery.

In my personal opinion it was either information about Danarius coming to Kirkwall and where he was hiding (which Fenris found on the dead guard anyways) or something about his past that was "leaked" for him to be interested in. It could be information on how he was being tracked by Danarius, something about recovering his memories, even something about his real name and personal history. Even if it was documents or something he would be tempted to find these things and just have someone read them to him (willing or no, lol). Yet Fenris being Fenris realizes it is just a trap, looks mildly disappointed but not surprised and forgets all about it. Meanwhile Hawke is like.. but... what were you expecting? telll meeeeee

I will confess, I always wondered what Fenris thought was in the box.  I thought I might learn more with his personal quest.  But then again I always thought the fight.... heck, the whole storyline with Danarius was under done.  He just appears, we fight then that's it. 

[Meeszy Alexy]

Red_Jezzabelle wrote...

Tanathir wrote...


-snip-

LMAO ... too funny! 

Hawke: Fenris, um... that's not what I meant by "Lampshade Hanging".

[Arquen]

As I said before the Sim emotes are so OOC for Fenris I'm laughing my butt off just thinking about all of them.

That lamp one is pretty priceless.

[Tanathir]

I had so much fun playing that lot with SimFenris.  Best decision I ever made was give him the Pleasure aspiration so he does that lampshade dance.  Clearly that's what he's up to in the mansion all by himself: choregraphing the lampshade dance routine.  He's now married to the lady doing the shocked gesture in the background, they have 4 kids!  It should be interesting to see how his genetics play out.

[FenrisDeSolar]

I said slow updates...

I lied.

It's time to start bleeding love again -- you can read Until We Bleed on FanFiction.Net or DeviantArt.

I'll hide in a corner somewhere and write some more. 8]

[Arquen]

Found this on DA. Had an idea to do a fanart similar to this one before but someone beat me to it apparently. Meh, they did it better than I could have anyways, LOL.

Just haven't seen it around before. Thought I would share.



by Armesan on DeviantArt

I always love the idea of Fenris as a wolf. His name is so fitting of his personality. Coincidentally, "Leto directly translates as "summer" in some Slavic languages, and "he who is always happy" in Latin. Considering his current less than sunny disposition, this goes to show how much he's lost." -- Oh tvtropes how I love thee.

Modifié par Arquen, 22 juin 2011 - 12:54 .

[UrsulaCousland]

I love that art - been a while since it's been posted. And great dialog, Arquen!

Maker forbid I might have time to at least write a prompt fill this week. *feels left behind*

[tankgirly]

R2s Muse wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

@R2s Muse your siggy.....do you happened to have the character swapping with Cullen vid?

@tankygirly I'm afraid I don't know how to make a vid myself   and I haven't seen one floating around yet. I do have a bunch of screenshots, tho, some of which are here and  here. Apropos to this thread, a few are from a Fenris body swap (the "command me to go" scene, which is my fave of the glowy against the wall ones).

I laugh so hard my younglings had to come to investigate why their mother suddenly gone mad!

I've been searching YT for Cullern's character swapping. Alas, so far there is non. Maker, I love that templar.

Modifié par tankgirly, 22 juin 2011 - 01:31 .

[ReiSilver]

Arquen wrote...

Found this on DA. Had an idea to do a fanart similar to this one before but someone beat me to it apparently. Meh, they did it better than I could have anyways, LOL.

Just haven't seen it around before. Thought I would share.
*snip awesome art*

by Armesan on DeviantArt

I always love the idea of Fenris as a wolf. His name is so fitting of his personality. Coincidentally, "Leto directly translates as "summer" in some Slavic languages, and "he who is always happy" in Latin. Considering his current less than sunny disposition, this goes to show how much he's lost." -- Oh tvtropes how I love thee.

I also love the idea of animal mascot/totems and Hawke and Fenris have theirs right off the bat. I'd pick Anders for a cat (obviously) Aveline as some sort of hound (loyal, protective, orderly), only Varric and Merrill elude me... though I'm leaning toward raven/lyre bird for Varric; something of a performer and trickster.

[Arquen]

Ohhh so that's where you have been hiding tankgirly! The Cullen thread!

I actually have had a soft spot for Cullen since Origins. I played an elven mage and his "obsession" with you while you are in the circle is just hilariously cute.

But anyways back to Fenris. Was listening to some more of his voice pack. I have come to the conclusion that Fenris is quite philosophical with his questions. There was one thing he said that just got me.

Fenris: Is there anyone who's life has been touched by magic that actually benefits?

I thought about it and pondered it, and I came up with nothing. Sure, Hawke benefits slightly but it's more a burden especially in the last act and even her/his whole life having to be in hiding. Anders definitely doesn't benefit.. neither does Bethany really especially if she goes to the circle. Hell... name one person who DoES benefit... Danarius? -- no not really.. fool is dead. Morrigan? -- she ends up with a demon child and a psycho mom. Flemeth may be one to benefit from magic, but can her powers really be called magic? She has such power.

Tevinter magisters -- yeah that was pretty much all I came up with, but then I thought they really don't benefit so much because they constantly have to vie for more power and backstab to get it. *sigh* Oh Fenris, you are so wise sometimes and don't even know it.

Edit for animal totems: I always thought of Aveline as a bear - like a momma bear type. Varric to me is a jackal or fox. Merrill is a mouse to me - sneaky but gentle and shy. Anders is a raven to me, or an eagle - tis the pauldrons that get me on that whole bird thing, but then a cougar also fits him. Isabela - Scorpion to me -- love 'em and leave 'em. She actually really fits well with a scorpion, lol.

Modifié par Arquen, 22 juin 2011 - 03:30 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Arquen wrote...
But anyways back to Fenris. Was listening to some more of his voice pack. I have come to the conclusion that Fenris is quite philosophical with his questions. There was one thing he said that just got me.

Fenris: Is there anyone who's life has been touched by magic that actually benefits?

I thought about it and pondered it, and I came up with nothing. Sure, Hawke benefits slightly but it's more a burden especially in the last act and even her/his whole life having to be in hiding. Anders definitely doesn't benefit.. neither does Bethany really especially if she goes to the circle. Hell... name one person who DoES benefit... Danarius? -- no not really.. fool is dead. Morrigan? -- she ends up with a demon child and a psycho mom. Flemeth may be one to benefit from magic, but can her powers really be called magic? She has such power.

What about all the people whose lives Anders saves in his clinic? What about the vast majority of Dalish elves? (except for Merril's unfortunate victims). Every Dalish person lives their whole life around magic and magicians, being healed and taught by them, and everything is awesome. Life for the Dalish generally seems better and more enjoyable than it is for most other people in Thedas. That's what you get when you make mages a part of your community

The only reason magic harms people like Hawke, Bethany, and Anders is because they're persecuted. Saying that magic causes misery because we persecute magicians is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like how they say that homosexuality causes depression... but it doesn't, it's just that gay people are more likely to be bullied, so they're more likely to be depressed due to the bullying. Correlation does not imply causation.

Also if what Flemeth has isn't magic... I want some of that non-magic. Boy do I.

[Dr. Doctor]

Ah, animal totems.

Isabela: Back in Llomerryn my mother was a Seer, or pretended to be one at any rate.

Fenris: Is there something more to this?

Isabela: Well according to the Natural Order, the faith the Seers practice everyone has some sort of link with an animal. Defines their personallity and all that.

Fenris: Facinating.

Isabela: I wonder what your animal would be.

Varric: (whispering to Fenris) Five silver says she says wolf.

Isabela: I bet you would be...a bird. Of some sort.

Fenris: Perhaps you should stick to being a pirate.

[Arquen]

I didn't see it in such a general term as that CGG. I suppose you can talk about it in terms of magic benefiting people. Even Fenris admits magic has its uses.

No, the way I read it was if anyone's life that has been touched by magic benefits. As in people who are born with magic or live under magic. I don't really consider someone who has been healed as being "touched" by magic, although one could suggest it in such broad terms.

There are ample examples of good things people do with magic and result from magic, but whose life really benefits from being "touched" by magic?

As for Flemeth - to much mystery around that to even go there. She has been called the Maker for Maker's sakes. I do wonder what her powers are, but they are beyond what "magic" we know in Thedas in all other examples for sure. So, yeah I hesitate to label it mage magic.

Modifié par Arquen, 22 juin 2011 - 04:18 .

[ReiSilver]

Arquen wrote...

Ohhh so that's where you have been hiding tankgirly! The Cullen thread!

I actually have had a soft spot for Cullen since Origins. I played an elven mage and his "obsession" with you while you are in the circle is just hilariously cute.

But anyways back to Fenris. Was listening to some more of his voice pack. I have come to the conclusion that Fenris is quite philosophical with his questions. There was one thing he said that just got me.

Fenris: Is there anyone who's life has been touched by magic that actually benefits?

I thought about it and pondered it, and I came up with nothing. Sure, Hawke benefits slightly but it's more a burden especially in the last act and even her/his whole life having to be in hiding. Anders definitely doesn't benefit.. neither does Bethany really especially if she goes to the circle. Hell... name one person who DoES benefit... Danarius? -- no not really.. fool is dead. Morrigan? -- she ends up with a demon child and a psycho mom. Flemeth may be one to benefit from magic, but can her powers really be called magic? She has such power.

Tevinter magisters -- yeah that was pretty much all I came up with, but then I thought they really don't benefit so much because they constantly have to vie for more power and backstab to get it. *sigh* Oh Fenris, you are so wise sometimes and don't even know it.

But how much of that is because of magic rather then society's reaction to magic? Wynne seems to use her gifts very well, the one dark spot being that the circle took her child from her. Morrigan's mother isn't the fault of magic and whether or not the old-god/demon baby turns out badly for her is yet to be seen. Then there are the people helped by magic that aren't mages themselves, people whose lives are saved through healing or through a magic user defeating an evil just as someone with a mundane weapon would.
Hawkes life can be just as sucky magic or no. Even if a mage has a very good life if you examine someone's whole life you're going to find dark points, it would be impossible to separate the fault to magic or something else. You'd be looking for a mage whose life is perfect which you're just not going to find because life doesn't work that way, magic or no. One might as well ask if anyone's life has been benifitted by red hair.
(I feel like I'm channeling my mage Hawke, Marric, arguing with Fenris only without his bad jokes)

Arquen wrote...
Edit for animal totems: I always thought of Aveline as a bear - like a momma bear type. Varric to me is a jackal or fox. Merrill is a mouse to me - sneaky but gentle and shy. Anders is a raven to me, or an eagle - tis the pauldrons that get me on that whole bird thing, but then a cougar also fits him. Isabela - Scorpion to me -- love 'em and leave 'em. She actually really fits well with a scorpion, lol.

I like scorpion for Isabella!
The only reason I hesitate to pair Aveline with a bear is because bears will only rouse to violent action to defend their young  or themselves and are largely solitary. Whereas Aveline seeks out organisations, thrives in an ordered environment and goes above and beyond the call of duty to investigate things she believes need to be fixed, which is why it makes me think of a working dog like a hound (It might have something to do with me being a dog person I'll admit)
I was also struck with the idea of pairing Merrill with a platypus... for the sheer odd factor; cute weird, surprisingly dangerous. Or with a hare because DA2 Merrill makes me think of Luna Lovegood.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Arquen wrote...

I didn't see it in such a general term as that CGG. I suppose you can talk about it in terms of magic benefiting people. Even Fenris admits magic has its uses.

No, the way I read it was if anyone's life that has been touched by magic benefits. As in people who are born with magic or live under magic. I don't really consider someone who has been healed as being "touched" by magic, although one could suggest it in such broad terms.

There are ample examples of good things people do with magic and result from magic, but whose life really benefits from being "touched" by magic?

Almost every Dalish keeper, other than the ones Merril screws over? Dalish keepers are taught that with great power comes great responsibility. Also, it's been implied that Wynne would have died young without her spirit. And we haven't seen the Rivaini yet.

I'd say that magic harms everyone it touches in any situation where magic either rules or is subjugated. It is only in situations where those with magic are integrated in the community that magic is a gift not a curse.

There was a time when all elves had magic and lived forever and everyone was happy all the time. And then humans screwed it up. What have humans touched that they haven't spoiled? Pretty much nothing.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 22 juin 2011 - 04:23 .

[R2s Muse]

tankgirly wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

@R2s Muse your siggy.....do you happened to have the character swapping with Cullen vid?

@tankygirly I'm afraid I don't know how to make a vid myself   and I haven't seen one floating around yet. I do have a bunch of screenshots, tho, some of which are here and  here. Apropos to this thread, a few are from a Fenris body swap (the "command me to go" scene, which is my fave of the glowy against the wall ones).

I laugh so hard my younglings had to come to investigate why their mother suddenly gone mad!

I've been searching YT for Cullern's character swapping. Alas, so far there is non. Maker, I love that templar.

Heh, awesome; glad you enjoyed them. Much hilarity and squeeing was had that day on the Cullen thread. If only I could figure out the video thing...

[Arquen]

See what I mean about it being philosophical. I love how Fenris presents these questions and gets you thinking and arguing with yourself (and him!) about magic.

The question still remains though has magic benefited people it has touched? In broad terms, yes -- magic has its uses it heals it provides equalization, it stops blights, but mages don't really seem to benefit much from their magic. Society being a part of this, yes, but the other part is the attraction of demons to mages. Can't ignore that even without society persecuting someone with magic there are demons who persecute in their own way by hunting mages down for power and their own needs. Hence, I can't really say Tevinter Magisters actually benefit from magic either.

Honestly, I think I am so attached to Fenris as a character because I find I have a lot in common with him personality wise and also character wise. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing I have yet to figure out, LOL. Also, I love playing devil's advocate and Fenris gives me a great opportunity to do just that.

I like how people immediately go to Wynne because truly she does benefit from having a spirit I suppose. Her spirit allows her to help and heal people, yes. However, her spirit is also killing her slowly and she does not have much time. She would be dead already if not for magic touching her life, but really - the benefit is that she gets a few more months? years? Not to mention if magic hadn't touched her life in the first place she would not have had a spirit enter her anyways. So, curious to say that she benefited from magic when magic is the cause of her dying either way.

"Hawkes life can be just as sucky magic or no. Even if a mage has a very
good life if you examine someone's whole life you're going to find dark
points, it would be impossible to separate the fault to magic or
something else. You'd be looking for a mage whose life is perfect which
you're just not going to find because life doesn't work that way, magic
or no. One might as well ask if anyone's life has been benifitted by red
hair."

This is probably the best point made. Magic is not the cause of people's lives being what they are. People who are not touched by magic may still have just as oppressed, terrible lives as those who are touched by magic. Yet because magic comes with a lot more weight than red hair it does impact a person's life. As stated society plays a role in this, but so does the fact that mages can turn into abominations and attract demons. A normal person without magic does not. So it is not something they worry about - being overtaken by a demon, hunted by a demon, coerced by a demon and even the fade is not something people who are not mages worry about. Not looking for a perfect mage life, but does a person benefit from being touched by magic. Can they be compared to a normal person who has potential to suffer, but does not have the same traits or weaknesses a mage is exposed to.

Modifié par Arquen, 22 juin 2011 - 04:42 .