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[tankgirly]

stephen1493 wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

@D-D, this thread sudden is more than alive again since your return. Arh....such a nice feeling.

I feel so ignored... 

Sorry, Stephen. I didn't mean it......*huggle*

Hey, did you see that Merrill fanart I did for ya a while back?

[Deliciously-Demonic]

-huggles stephen- Don't be feeling ignored! We luffles youuuu~

I guess that makes sense. If I was an absurdly powerful mage with powerful political connections...yeah, I'd probably buy an estate in the worst places for mages and just flip off the Knight-Commander and do a few blood rituals in the town square.
Keyword, unfortunately, being if.

Is it...wrong, that I enjoy the idea of Fenris NOT being recruited, getting re-captured by Danarius, then Hawke becoming Mr. D's slave and getting markings like Fenris? ANGST THE DELICIOUS ANGST. It tastes of Nutella. Just like my hatred for Anders used to, before it died...

dammit now I have to draw that. -punches her muse square in the jaw, Aveline style, then trods off to draw-

[Meeszy Alexy]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
I guess that makes sense. If I was an absurdly powerful mage with powerful political connections...yeah, I'd probably buy an estate in the worst places for mages and just flip off the Knight-Commander and do a few blood rituals in the town square.
Keyword, unfortunately, being if.

I'd personally use the estate for sweet rave parties. Especially if I had a lyrium-infused bodyguard slave. 

[Arquen]

OF course! Glow sticks are already included!.. lmao

I just got finished doing some art so my muse should be satisfied dammit! Also listening to my Fenris playlist. My boyfriend keeps saying "why don't you draw Fenris?"

I get all nervous and go.. but.. but.. I'll just mess him up >.<... I swear one day! He is my white whale!

I like the dynamics of the rivalmance as well, but I much prefer the friendmance. I have gotten it down to a science to go either way with Fenris as far as friend/rival, but I just find it so much more satisfying on the friend side.

Though one of favorite things ever on the rivalmance side is when he rolls his eyes at Hawke after Festis bei umo canavarum. I always have my Hawke go "no need to go overboard with the THANKS or anything...," and he turns away and rolls his eyes. I crack up. That is so something I would say too >.<.

Also, my obsession is spilling into my RL.. I almost tripped over my dog's toy today when I was coming home and go "dammit, Kara (our dog) Festis bei umo canavarum!" -- my boyfriend went "wtf did you just say?" I say... "nothing.. don't worry about it" *whistles innocently*

[Heidenreich]

Arquen wrote...

OF course! Glow sticks are already included!.. lmao

I just got finished doing some art so my muse should be satisfied dammit! Also listening to my Fenris playlist. My boyfriend keeps saying "why don't you draw Fenris?"

I get all nervous and go.. but.. but.. I'll just mess him up >.<... I swear one day! He is my white whale!

I like the dynamics of the rivalmance as well, but I much prefer the friendmance. I have gotten it down to a science to go either way with Fenris as far as friend/rival, but I just find it so much more satisfying on the friend side.

Though one of favorite things ever on the rivalmance side is when he rolls his eyes at Hawke after Festis bei umo canavarum. I always have my Hawke go "no need to go overboard with the THANKS or anything...," and he turns away and rolls his eyes. I crack up. That is so something I would say too >.<.

Also, my obsession is spilling into my RL.. I almost tripped over my dog's toy today when I was coming home and go "dammit, Kara (our dog) Festis bei umo canavarum!" -- my boyfriend went "wtf did you just say?" I say... "nothing.. don't worry about it" *whistles innocently*

If it makes you feel any better, I'm offically no longer allowed to talk about Dragon Age AT ALL in my home. Mass Effect as well, but on a much less strict scale because the hubby actually likes shooters ;p

I ran screaming from the Rivalmance with Fenris, I just can't DO IT. It makes my heart ache. He's like the most utter extra special awesome best friend in the friendmance. ;p

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

stephen1493 wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

@D-D, this thread sudden is more than alive again since your return. Arh....such a nice feeling.

I feel so ignored... 

Stephen! *HUG!* *Gives cookies* Welcome back!

Now, excuse me while I go upload something to Photobucket to upload here. And get my coffee.

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 27 juin 2011 - 02:46 .

[phyreblade74]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

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Part of me wonders if Fenris actually lied about his memories returning when he...y'know...with Hawke. Considering how spur-of-the-moment it actually was, maybe when everything was all said and done, he freaked out, maybe thinking he was just trading one master for another, or something akin to that. Mostly that face he makes when he leaves.
To quote one of my favorite YouTube comments, "Only Fenris could pull the ultimate booty-call, and walk away looking like *he's* the one that just got used."
Maybe he thinks he was used by Hawke. Maybe he thinks he should be angry, but his feelings for Hawke get in the way of that and confuse him. I dunno. Food for thought.

I've wondered similarly, although I do tend to think it was memories that bothered Fenris that night.  Mind you, it's just what makes sense in my own head and not neccessarily anything overtly described in the game.  But I think it terrified him, to love someone, when Danarius was still out there, somewhere, looming like a dark cloud over his whole future.  I believe Fenris simply had to overcome his fear of Danarius' coming along to control or otherwise manipulate him into destroying Hawke before he could truly appreciate the idea of Hawke and him together like that.

I think, anyway, it's memories of the Fog Warriors incident that drives Fenris away from Hawke that night.  I honestly believe there was nothing that horrified Fenris more than the fear he might turn on Hawke the way he had turned on the Fog Warriors, that if Danarius came along and ordered him to hurt Hawke would he really be able to refuse.  What if Danarius had some means of controlling him beyond the simple "slave mentality", what if his magic could work to compel Fenris towards such an abhorrent act, what if Danarius could make him forget all over again...I think the "what if" possibilities drove Fenris mad as he lay there next to Hawke and finally drove him away.

He does tell Hawke later on, "I thought it better if you hated me."  To me, that line throws the entire "All my memories came back then disappeared again" story into huge question.  He deliberately drove Hawke away.  Which plays into the protectiveness that's so much a part of Fenris, too.  The man's entire life history, what he recalls of it, has been as a bodyguard.  Fenris protects, that's what he does.  If he fixated on protection of Hawke, keeping her at a distance from him would be paramount until he could absolutely sure of himself and Danarius' hold on him.  Especially in light of the events in Bitter Pill, watching Hawke rush into those caverns alongside him, to battle the myriad threats there, up to and including Hadriana and her shades and demons.

In my head canon, Fenris fell asleep next to Hawke and had a horrible nightmare about the Fog Warriors.  Only it was Hawke rather than the Warriors he ended up destroying.  Waking up, he dressed, gave Hawke his sorry excuse of a tale to "make her hate him", then ran away.  As I see it, the events that followed, with Hawke's mother dying and then the fight with the Arishok, where Hawke gets a sword crammed through her middle, changed everything for Fenris.  I'm not a big "they didn't do anything for 3 years afterwards" fan.  I think there was "something" going on between them, but it's just not articulated or openly acknowledged by much of anyone, not even and maybe especially the two of them. 

By the time Fenris confronted Danarius, though, the chances of him causing even a niggling bit of harm to Hawke was nil; so when Danarius mocks Hawke and Fenris' relationship with her, Fenris loses it, he glows madly.  The look of shock on Danarius' face is perfect -- he expected Fenris to do as he was told, just as Fenris had feared.  He never realized how far from that Fenris had grown.

That's just my own thinking going on, though.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Alright, I got the screenshots to cooperate! Yes!

OK, so, the first born of my F-Gen kiddies on my TS2 legacy was a boy. With black eyebrows and green eyes.



Huzzah! Welcome baby!Fenris! (He's so cute!) (Ignore the lack of elf ears-- I use accessories for the ears, which don't show up until the Childhood stage)

Although, if you've played TS2, the Baby stage doesn't last long. Within time (about 24-Sim!hours, in my game), baby!Fenris turned to toddler!Fenris:



I know his face is wacky, that's because of his mother's face settings.


(Learning to walk-- what an evil face!)


(Toddler!Fenris already knows how to do a proper jailbreak. Good boy!)

Now, we *finally* got to the Childhood stage (hilariously, the day of the birthday party for Fenris, the mother of the F-Gen gave birth to the other F-Gen kids-- she had twins, albeit there being no cheesecake in the house like before, a boy named Feanor (read the Simarillion), and a girl named Fire):



Aww!

Bonus Screens:

Ezio (who is the E-Gen heir) is a kitten thief.
Fenris has a teddy bear.
Young!Leandra Hawke, my version of Malcolm Hawke, and baby!Marian Hawke.

[stephen1493]

tankgirly wrote...

stephen1493 wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

@D-D, this thread sudden is more than alive again since your return. Arh....such a nice feeling.

I feel so ignored... 

Sorry, Stephen. I didn't mean it......*huggle*

Hey, did you see that Merrill fanart I did for ya a while back?

I did, and you did an amazing job!!

Did I miss anything while I was gone?

[Deliciously-Demonic]

EZIO YOU KITTEN THEIF YOU. What would Anders saaay? D:

Dammit. Now I want to do a DA legacy! STUPID SIMS 2 WORK DAMN YOUUUUU~

Ahem. My apologies.

Fenris looks soo cuuuute. I want him His nose could be a little...flatter, but D-D still likey. > The only Sim I made that was based off a video game character was Valen...a hornless, tailless Valen, with no armor, but Valen nonetheless. He made cute babies.

Crap, now you've got me started. v_v -runs off to attempt to install Sims 2 on her new computer. Again. Knowing fully well the ROM drive is faulty-

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

EZIO YOU KITTEN THEIF YOU. What would Anders saaay? D:

Dammit. Now I want to do a DA legacy! STUPID SIMS 2 WORK DAMN YOUUUUU~

Ahem. My apologies.

Fenris looks soo cuuuute. I want him His nose could be a little...flatter, but D-D still likey. > The only Sim I made that was based off a video game character was Valen...a hornless, tailless Valen, with no armor, but Valen nonetheless. He made cute babies.

Crap, now you've got me started. v_v -runs off to attempt to install Sims 2 on her new computer. Again. Knowing fully well the ROM drive is faulty-

Sorry-- I really can't control that though . All the Sims were for the legacy are bred, so no control on the nose for me (unless I cheat and use SimPE like I am going to for Carver and Bethany, and did somewhat for Marian-- technically, they're not part of the legacy and will just be on a random lot once they're all grown up to be friends with the rest of the legacy kids. Exception to Marian, who will be the controlled apperance of the parents of Gen-G if my random thing chooses Fenris for heir, or will be on a seperate lot, still with Fenris, if he's not). The only part of the legacy (the legacy *was* supposed to be a general fantasy, but then just fanned out to whatever I felt like) that I did and still do control the apperance of were the BaseGen (which I started as toddlers and raised up from there, so I count them when counting the generations), and then all of the Sims that are added to the family ( who the heir/heiress is married to).

And it's OK about the armor thing-- I got extremely lucky with Ezio and found his things on Garden of Shadows. No proper armor for Fenris and Marian. Or any of the other characters, really. Unless I download medieval armor, but that'd just stand out (everyone's been modernized).

Phew, I just had a random splurge. Anyway, back to Sims.

[Deliciously-Demonic]

...it's so very sad that I understood everything you said. -sigh- I miss playing Sims.

Technically, you don't *have* to use SimPE; if you have UNI, you can use the cosmetic surgery career reward.

BUTBUTBUT back to Dragon Age before we get glared out. So uncouth. x3

So...there I was, readinf fanfiction, munching on a donut...when an idea occured to me. Having Danarius try to 'breed' Fem!Slave!Hawkes with Fenris seems to be a popular theme. And if FanFic has taught me anything, it's that speculation is mot of the time a little too close to the mark for comfort. So I began to wonder, what if Danarius...'bred' Fenris to other slaves to see if his lyrium abilities passed on genetically. (I know I'd try it, if I were a power-mad magister with. Sexy lyrium-branded slave. Armies of little elfings who can FALCON PAWNCH my enemies! >) What if Fen has a bunch of bastard children running around Tevinter?! D8

[Tealsie]

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
Fenris has a teddy bear.

That... is one of the most adorable things I have ever seen.
I want one.

[tankgirly]

Tealsie wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
Fenris has a teddy bear.

That... is one of the most adorable things I have ever seen.
I want one.

I saw one in our ToysRUs store. NZD $180.

[Annarl]

Madame Rose Crimsynn, those pics are amazing!!

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Tealsie wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
Fenris has a teddy bear.

That... is one of the most adorable things I have ever seen.
I want one.

Too bad it's not so cute now-- at least, sometimes it's not so cute. Fenris abuses poor Serah Fluffikins (Yes, I've named the teddy bear Serah Fluffikins). He does that not-so-cute thing that child Sims do where they're hugging the bear one second and the next trying to beat it's head into the floor.

I got a few cute shots of toddler!Marian with a teddy bear as well-- before she also started her own abuse (O_O What is wrong with these kids?!)

tankgirly wrote...


I saw one in our ToysRUs store. NZD $180. 

He's becoming quite the international sensation!

omearaee wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn, those pics are amazing!!

Thank you! I'll be putting up more until Fenris is out of the Legacy House, or until he's dead because he was the heir of the Legacy House.

[Arquen]

 

phyreblade74 wrote...I've wondered similarly, although I do tend to think it was memories that bothered Fenris that night.  Mind you, it's just what makes sense in my own head and not neccessarily anything overtly described in the game.  But I think it terrified him, to love someone, when Danarius was still out there, somewhere, looming like a dark cloud over his whole future.  I believe Fenris simply had to overcome his fear of Danarius' coming along to control or otherwise manipulate him into destroying Hawke before he could truly appreciate the idea of Hawke and him together like that.(SNIP)

Phyre! There you are! I haven't seen you.. did I miss something

I like this idea of Fenris having a nightmare and lying awake, yes in my head canon it went along the same lines except not about the Fog Warriors, but dreams about people and places he had never seen but recognized. I absolutely believe that he did have those memories return and vanish. He even remarks to Hawke that "perhaps you don't realize how upsetting this is!" Memories can be powerful things. Someone who has that sudden rush of images only to lose it again would experience a flurry of emotion among them being primarily confusion. His whole self identity came into question at that point, and then was lost. It leaves someone with a feeling of "who am I? Who was this person I saw? these people? Do I have family?" I can completely understand leaving for that reason alone. Memory is something Fenris never had, and he has built an identity around who he is and who he has become. Suddenly, he isn't the person he thinks he is, and there is all this he doesn't know about himself, and then it is ripped away. The speculation alone would be enough to drive anyone mad. It would definitely hinder them in an intimate relationship especially if that is what triggered it in the first place.

I do like the dream idea about him being afraid to turn on Hawke, but I don't think he would or could do that again. Ever since the Fog Warriors he has been living independently and I think that blind loyalty and the realization of what he did to the Fog Warriors was enough to make him realize he wouldn't do that ever again and so he ran.As far as the line "I thought it better if you hated me." I agree it was him pushing Hawke away deliberately. Yet, I don't think it was because the memories thing was false, but because he had hurt Hawke by leaving. I think it was more that he pushed Hawke away after he had left, and during that 3 year gap. He thought it would be better for Hawke to just hate him for that, so it would make it easier for him to move on as well. This is a self defense mechanism and it is used quite often by people. Drive others away to make it easier to be alone. The thought being that it is easier to leave something/someone behind that hates you even if you are the one to provoke them to do so. Of course as Fenris realizes "it's not better." What concerns me is that the memories thing never comes up again. Hawke never asks "what about those memories you were so upset about..." or "aren't you afraid the same thing will happen again?" kind of thing.

All we get is "I was a coward.." which states to me that he was afraid of it happening again, afraid to face those memories again, and at that time not willing or not able emotionally to deal with such things. There is an old quote I'm reminded of about how you have to take care of yourself first and find out who you are before you can attempt a relationship with others.

I completely agree about the protective instinct though. Fenris on either side is a protector figure always concerned with Hawke being reckless. The only counter to this is that he puts Hawke in danger by offering the duel option with the Arishok. However, since Fenris also has utmost respect and faith in Hawke's abilities this is the less dangerous option than having the party go all out slaughter on the qunari there. You even get friend points for accepting the duel because it really bolster's Fenris' trust and respect for Hawke.

By the time he meets Danarius he has really grown as a person. The memories coming back probably still make him pause but keeping Hawke is more important than the past now. He is looking for a future, and he realizes he can't see one without Hawke there so consequences be damned at that point. I agree Danarius probably never expected "his little Fenris" to show up with a powerful entourage and be all "shut your mouth!" He probably was expecting Fenris to show more of the slave mentality, and therefore had to change his tactics to try and bargain with Hawke for Fenris instead of outright commanding Fenris him. "The word is.. master" didn't go over to well, lol. 

As an aside...


by Ddriana on DA

[Deliciously-Demonic]

-melts a little- Oh Feeeen~
I really need to write a DA2 fic now. I'm loathed to start one, however, because...ah...my only Fem!Hawkes that romanced Fenris are elves (I have a perfectly logical explaination for this, too!) and I can't write good slash.

Also, I need to stop lurking in the Anders thread. It's giving me odd desires. Such as, to grab my cat, look up pictures of Femnders, and speculate on Hawkespawn. Why can't we be as awesomely insane as the Anderstians?!

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

-melts a little- Oh Feeeen~
I really need to write a DA2 fic now. I'm loathed to start one, however, because...ah...my only Fem!Hawkes that romanced Fenris are elves (I have a perfectly logical explaination for this, too!) and I can't write good slash.

Also, I need to stop lurking in the Anders thread. It's giving me odd desires. Such as, to grab my cat, look up pictures of Femnders, and speculate on Hawkespawn. Why can't we be as awesomely insane as the Anderstians?!

It sounds like you have a fever and the only solution is more Fenders.

One of us.

I'll just... leave this here.


Gone-batty is a genius.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 28 juin 2011 - 04:05 .

[Arquen]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

-melts a little- Oh Feeeen~
I really need to write a DA2 fic now. I'm loathed to start one, however, because...ah...my only Fem!Hawkes that romanced Fenris are elves (I have a perfectly logical explaination for this, too!) and I can't write good slash.

Also, I need to stop lurking in the Anders thread. It's giving me odd desires. Such as, to grab my cat, look up pictures of Femnders, and speculate on Hawkespawn. Why can't we be as awesomely insane as the Anderstians?!

I lurk in the Anders thread as well, but all my love is for Fenris. I crack up in the Anders thread though, good times. Unfortunately, the Fenris thread has lost a bit of its momentum over the past month or so. I never saw it as a contest, however, and so am happy as long as there are fellow Fenris fans to share my obsession with and bounce theories around with.

As far as crazy.. heh... they are in a category of their own.

Oh CGG, making more Fenders converts... LOL. I still can't get used to it. It doesn't terribly offend me (not much does), but it is not something I am into.

Everyone else I know is so sick of hearing me go on about DA2. You people are my only recourse, lmao.

[tankgirly]

@ d-d and Arquen, we Fengirls are the brooding lot, we don't do crazy things like blowing up the chantries or post something that's completely non-Fenris related (I noticed it for a time someone posted non-Anders related fanfic on Anders Thread to ....I don't know, spam?). Don't worry..

*Said from the Seer of the certain other thread*

*Is also a Anders fangirl. But prefer to hang around here.*

Modifié par tankgirly, 28 juin 2011 - 11:15 .

[Heidenreich]

Arquen wrote...

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

-melts a little- Oh Feeeen~
I really need to write a DA2 fic now. I'm loathed to start one, however, because...ah...my only Fem!Hawkes that romanced Fenris are elves (I have a perfectly logical explaination for this, too!) and I can't write good slash.

Also, I need to stop lurking in the Anders thread. It's giving me odd desires. Such as, to grab my cat, look up pictures of Femnders, and speculate on Hawkespawn. Why can't we be as awesomely insane as the Anderstians?!

I lurk in the Anders thread as well, but all my love is for Fenris. I crack up in the Anders thread though, good times. Unfortunately, the Fenris thread has lost a bit of its momentum over the past month or so. I never saw it as a contest, however, and so am happy as long as there are fellow Fenris fans to share my obsession with and bounce theories around with.

As far as crazy.. heh... they are in a category of their own.

Oh CGG, making more Fenders converts... LOL. I still can't get used to it. It doesn't terribly offend me (not much does), but it is not something I am into.

Everyone else I know is so sick of hearing me go on about DA2. You people are my only recourse, lmao.

Anyone who is a Fenris fan is by default almost always an Anders fan. Its impossible not to be. He's amazing. And by amazing, I mean he's crazy, and every one loves a little bit of train-wreckage with their drama.

<3

[ReiSilver]

Fellow Fenris fans, I humbly request aid!

I'm writing a little drabble about Marric Hawke and Fenris and have reached a block and would like some feedback. The general gist of the story was to get some bonding going on since both Fenris and apostate-Hawke know what it's like to live on-the-run/in-hiding. To set this up I've had Marric heal a critically injured child in public, then have to run from templars only to run into Fenris and have to drag them both into a hiding spot. Things become even more awkward because Marric's hands are covered in blood and Fenris has no context for why.

I'm stuck just after the immediate threat of Templars has left and it's time for explanations, I'm unsure just how angry/jumping-to-conclusions Fenris should be.

google documents link

I'm not usually a writer so any feedback welcome

[Todd23]

He shouldn't at all, he should be expecting it from a mage. He'd probably assume blood magic.

[Arquen]

Fenris would definitely assume blood magic in that context I believe. However, because it is Hawke and Fenris is quite blunt and direct the explanation would start something like this..

Fenris: Explain yourself. Now.
Hawke: blah blah Templars blah blah healed someone sick blah blah covered in blood blah
Fenris: Is that all or are you making up stories just so I won't call the Templars over or rip your heart out myself for being so foolish as to use blood magic.
Hawke: not blood magic.. trust me.. blah blah.. prove it to you.. blah
Fenris: So, now you are healing the injured in public. Hawke I'm surprised at you. I thought you liked freedom as much as I did (or insert other deadpan joke here to ease tension).

Basically Fenris would definitely be suspicious but he isn't going to just assume everything. He's been covered in blood many a time, and probably would want an explanation. If it is good enough he will believe you. If you can offer proof, he will believe you more. I'm sure you can put in a tirade about temptation and how it preys on mages and such, but I think in the end he would take Hawke at their word, though would be suspicious and definitely concerned why Hawke is so reckless.

two cents..