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[Patriciachr34]

DreamerM wrote...

...So basically, there is very little way to get the Glowy Kiss on a pro-mage playthrough. I support mages without getting Fenris to hate me, but he doesn't like me enough for just being nice to him in conversations and sending Ella back to the Circle to get approval high enough.

C'et la vie

I always get the glowy kiss, but I can't remeber how I do it any more.  Just did the act 3 questioning beliefs.  Dmn!  Fenris is just so... well you know.

[Deliciously-Demonic]

Arquen wrote...

*fenris grabs hawke and pushes her to wall* (oh crap what are you doing I really pissed him off this time..wait I know that look omg we are so close.. can't stand it.. ) *kiss*
(Now my turn fenris.. ) *grabs him and reverses..* (now were even...)

At least how it goes in my head lol. I love the reversal. Hawke showing he/she can be just as strong and fenris submitting somewhat to accept hawke on even terms, and enjoy the ride ;p

While I do enjoy that train of thought, and am sure it fits some other peoples' Hawkes, my problem is that it doesn't fit my Hawkes, and there's no way to change/alter/fix it. It's OOC for several of my Hawkes, Faline, The Doormat Elven Mage, in particular. She's squeak in an moe-ish way, they'd stare at each other for a moment, Fenris would try to back away, Faline would panic and kiss him, but she'd never pin him against the wall. She's a go-with-the-flow person when it comes to intamacy and relationships, so...

What I wish Bioware had done is use that nifty meter/whatever-it-is that keeps track of our Hawke's personality and set different animations for each.
Diplomatic: Just gives in and kisses back, still against the wall
Sarcastic: Grins wryly and kisses back, still against wall
Agressive: Reversal of DOOM. x3

Seeee how that fits better? Naughty Bioware, leaving us to fix your romance animations problems -gestures to the mountain of DA: O romance mods-

[Arquen]

Lmao ... okay.. I totally imagine diplomatic hawke being like ... *reversal* "nobody puts baby in a corner..."

Hawke doesn't have to be ooc for the reversal to me. To me even a doormat hawke go with the flow would take a cue from fenris that he wants the reversal and would like it. That scene has fantastic body language and is all about hawke reading fenris and fenris reading hawke. So, I think even a submissive go with the flow hawke would still sense that fenris wants the flip too. He let's hawke do it because he did it to hawke and wants to show him/her that he doesnt necessarily have to be the one in charge.

Just my interpretation, but then again I have an extremely hard time seeing hawke as a meek, submissive, doormat personality. Hawke wouldn't have gotten far if he/she couldn't speak their mind and let everyone dictate their life/choices.

[Meeszy Alexy]

DreamerM wrote...

...So basically, there is very little way to get the Glowy Kiss on a pro-mage playthrough. I support mages without getting Fenris to hate me, but he doesn't like me enough for just being nice to him in conversations and sending Ella back to the Circle to get approval high enough.

C'et la vie

I managed to get it on a pro-mage playthrough. *shrugs*

[tankgirly]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

DreamerM wrote...

...So basically, there is very little way to get the Glowy Kiss on a pro-mage playthrough. I support mages without getting Fenris to hate me, but he doesn't like me enough for just being nice to him in conversations and sending Ella back to the Circle to get approval high enough.

C'et la vie

I managed to get it on a pro-mage playthrough. *shrugs*

Hehe, so am I.

[DreamerM]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
What I wish Bioware had done is use that nifty meter/whatever-it-is that keeps track of our Hawke's personality and set different animations for each.
Diplomatic: Just gives in and kisses back, still against the wall
Sarcastic: Grins wryly and kisses back, still against wall
Agressive: Reversal of DOOM. x3

I can actually see Sarcastic!Hawke as misdirecting him somehow and then turning the tables when he's distracted.

If wishes were fishes we'd all have a fry...

[Arquen]

Lmao...

Hawke: omg what is that!
fenris: what.. (sarcastic hawke grabs him and reverses)
Hawke: got ya! (Smiles then commences make-out)

[Quasar7]

tankgirly wrote...

Quasar7 wrote...

My first fan art: My OC Hawke and Fenris -- hope you like! ^^

Oh, hummy!

Your first fanart? This is amazing. What did you do before this?

Thank you so much!  I'm getting back into art after too long a hiatus.  I've always enjoyed drawing people, usually characters from stories I've made up (if you're interested, I am ErinM31 on deviantart).

[ladyofpayne]

freya-thearistocrat.deviantart.com/art/Hawke-s-Revenge-216149333
Sweet revenge. My Garret Haeke want to revenge more and more. 

Modifié par ladyofpayne, 04 juillet 2011 - 02:23 .

[Annarl]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

Arquen wrote...

*fenris grabs hawke and pushes her to wall* (oh crap what are you doing I really pissed him off this time..wait I know that look omg we are so close.. can't stand it.. ) *kiss*
(Now my turn fenris.. ) *grabs him and reverses..* (now were even...)

At least how it goes in my head lol. I love the reversal. Hawke showing he/she can be just as strong and fenris submitting somewhat to accept hawke on even terms, and enjoy the ride ;p

While I do enjoy that train of thought, and am sure it fits some other peoples' Hawkes, my problem is that it doesn't fit my Hawkes, and there's no way to change/alter/fix it. It's OOC for several of my Hawkes, Faline, The Doormat Elven Mage, in particular. She's squeak in an moe-ish way, they'd stare at each other for a moment, Fenris would try to back away, Faline would panic and kiss him, but she'd never pin him against the wall. She's a go-with-the-flow person when it comes to intamacy and relationships, so...

What I wish Bioware had done is use that nifty meter/whatever-it-is that keeps track of our Hawke's personality and set different animations for each.
Diplomatic: Just gives in and kisses back, still against the wall
Sarcastic: Grins wryly and kisses back, still against wall
Agressive: Reversal of DOOM. x3

Seeee how that fits better? Naughty Bioware, leaving us to fix your romance animations problems -gestures to the mountain of DA: O romance mods-

I like that idea.  It does seem to suit the personalities better.  Or at least it does the way my Hawke romanced Fenris.

[Annarl]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

DreamerM wrote...

...So basically, there is very little way to get the Glowy Kiss on a pro-mage playthrough. I support mages without getting Fenris to hate me, but he doesn't like me enough for just being nice to him in conversations and sending Ella back to the Circle to get approval high enough.

C'et la vie

I always get the glowy kiss, but I can't remeber how I do it any more.  Just did the act 3 questioning beliefs.  Dmn!  Fenris is just so... well you know.

I thought it had to do with the order of the interactions with Fenris.  If they're all completed then you get the glowy kiss.  Not sure its been awhile since I romanced Fenris.   And I usually Friendance (even on pro-mage play through) him so now I'm not sure:blush:

Modifié par omearaee, 04 juillet 2011 - 03:17 .

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

Deliciously-Demonic wrote...

Arquen wrote...

*fenris grabs hawke and pushes her to wall* (oh crap what are you doing I really pissed him off this time..wait I know that look omg we are so close.. can't stand it.. ) *kiss*
(Now my turn fenris.. ) *grabs him and reverses..* (now were even...)

At least how it goes in my head lol. I love the reversal. Hawke showing he/she can be just as strong and fenris submitting somewhat to accept hawke on even terms, and enjoy the ride ;p

While I do enjoy that train of thought, and am sure it fits some other peoples' Hawkes, my problem is that it doesn't fit my Hawkes, and there's no way to change/alter/fix it. It's OOC for several of my Hawkes, Faline, The Doormat Elven Mage, in particular. She's squeak in an moe-ish way, they'd stare at each other for a moment, Fenris would try to back away, Faline would panic and kiss him, but she'd never pin him against the wall. She's a go-with-the-flow person when it comes to intamacy and relationships, so...

What I wish Bioware had done is use that nifty meter/whatever-it-is that keeps track of our Hawke's personality and set different animations for each.
Diplomatic: Just gives in and kisses back, still against the wall
Sarcastic: Grins wryly and kisses back, still against wall
Agressive: Reversal of DOOM. x3

Seeee how that fits better? Naughty Bioware, leaving us to fix your romance animations problems -gestures to the mountain of DA: O romance mods-

You know I absolutely agree with you about that. I would've been so pleased if that happened. 

@Quasar7 

Ooo... *Passes down two plates of cookies* 

[Away]

I haven't been on here since the game came out. Hello again forums!

On the topic of the glowy kiss, I admit I've never gotten it but I do agree on the personalities. My aggressive Hawke, if she'd romanced Fenris, would have reversed that so fast. On the other hand my current playthrough is a diplomatic!rogue Hawke, she's not a doormat, she's just sneakier then agro Hawke and not as irreverent as sarcastic!Hawke. Usually, anyway. Either way, she'd not let him just push her around, she's a rogue! She's got plenty of useful moves that can serve double purpose.

[autumnyte]

Even my diplomatic Hawkes would totally slam Fenris against the wall in that particular moment, but I can understand other people finding it out of character for their own Hawkes. I actually skip the glowy kiss and wait for the non-glowy one because I find it more in character for most of my rivalmancing Hawkes.

I think there has to be a certain amount of hand-waving with the romance scenes and how they fit your Hawke. What bothers me more than the animation is the dialogue afterwards. My Hawkes would never choose any of the three dialogue options given after you ask Fenris "Was it that bad?". I have no choice but to pick the least cringe-worthy and wince my way through it.

[Meeszy Alexy]

The Silly!Hawke option for after the same sex love scene made me crack up, personally. It is exactly what my Blood Mage Zack would say afterwards.

[autumnyte]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

The Silly!Hawke option for after the same sex love scene made me crack up, personally. It is exactly what my Blood Mage Zack would say afterwards.

That line is hilarious and cracks me up too, but the implication behind it doesn't gibe with how I imagine things went down between my Hawke and Fenris, if you catch my drift.  But the diplomatic and aggressive options also bug me and feel out of character. I usually just close my eyes and pick one.

Then I end up thinking, 'no wonder the dude walked out'. 

[Away]

autumnyte wrote...

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

The Silly!Hawke option for after the same sex love scene made me crack up, personally. It is exactly what my Blood Mage Zack would say afterwards.

That line is hilarious and cracks me up too, but the implication behind it doesn't gibe with how I imagine things went down between my Hawke and Fenris, if you catch my drift.  But the diplomatic and aggressive options also bug me and feel out of character. I usually just close my eyes and pick one.

Then I end up thinking, 'no wonder the dude walked out'. 

I had similar issues, even Silly!Hawke is somewhat off even though it doesn't ever fail to make me laugh. I usually just go with it because the other two are so...blegh.

Modifié par TheSquadette, 04 juillet 2011 - 08:21 .

[DaiyoukaiGeisha]

tankgirly wrote...



by seisei

smexy!

RAWR!


Nuff said.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

Man, the responses in this thread about the kiss reversal make me wish I was still in psych/soc academia, because I could use them as the inspiration for a paper on gender and sexual dominance in media as viewed through bisexual relationships in DA2 (why certain actions are seen as more or less ooc for more female interperations of Hawke than male ones, for example.) 

The reversal is in character for my Diplo! Hawke, because she thinks that everyone should be equal, so turnabout is always fair play. She's pretty much the definition of a switch.

I go for the non-glowy kiss for my Mage, because she might be kind of intimidated by it, in the same way she doesn't like Anders calling Fenris a beast: she likes to believe the best of everyone, and Fenris's rage is one of his less flattering things, even if he immediately regrets it. I think of her pushing Fenris as sort of awkward fumbling, rather than an actual display of dominance.

My aggro!Hawke is also my Troll!hawke, and she pretty much acts like she owns anyone she's romancing so... yeah. Works well for her.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 04 juillet 2011 - 10:29 .

[tankgirly]

Quasar7 wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Quasar7 wrote...

My first fan art: My OC Hawke and Fenris -- hope you like! ^^

Oh, hummy!

Your first fanart? This is amazing. What did you do before this?

Thank you so much!  I'm getting back into art after too long a hiatus.  I've always enjoyed drawing people, usually characters from stories I've made up (if you're interested, I am ErinM31 on deviantart).

I think I am going ot stalk you!

[Deliciously-Demonic]

All this talk of kissing.

This is how I see Faline and Fen's first kiss in headcanon:

Suddenly, a jolt of worry went through her. Without thinking, Faline reached out and grabbed him by his arm. "You don't have to leave, Fen-"
In a blur of movement, the mage found herself pinned against the wall, with a very angry-looking Fenris glaring down at her.
What else could she do? She squeaked in a frightened, albiet adorable, manner, looking shocked and a bit frightend. In the same instant, she felt herself enjoying, in sme odd way, the physical closeness between them.
Slowly, Fenris' expression turned to one of absolute horror, and he began to pull away.
Desperate to stay near him, if only in a physical manner, Faline reached forward and grasped him again, more gently. This time, he didn't do anything but stare at her, a questioning look dominating his impossibly green eyes.
For some reason, she found herself remembering the words of the old witch, Flemeth.
...do not hesitate to leap.
Well. She leaped.
Not really thinking straight, she pulled herself forwards and crashed her lips to his in an inexperianced way. He stiffened with shock, but quickly gave in and returned the kiss. He let out a low, feral growl, and pinned her against the wall again.
She barely registered the feeling, concentrating soley on the ecstacy she was feeling from this unplanned, unexpected, first kiss.

[Dr. Doctor]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

The Silly!Hawke option for after the same sex love scene made me crack up, personally. It is exactly what my Blood Mage Zack would say afterwards.

While that line is hilarious, F!Hawke's "Want a sandwich?" line makes me wish it was available in all of the romances.

Hawke: Was it that bad?

Fenris: No it was...better than anything I could have dreamed of. (is about to talk about his memories)

Hawke: Want a sandwich?

Fenris: That...that sounds good.

[ReiSilver]

I don't mind the reversal as I pin it as both Hawke and Fenris's sexual tension suddenly exploding in a "kiss me you fool!" moment:wub:, I love the idea of different reactions for different personality Hawkes, though with my Hawke the thing I imagine would be most in characetr for him would be to pull Fenris back on top of him against the wall ^^; Where it goes after that is up to everyone's head-canon. I'm personally a fan of Toppy!Fenris (and so is Marric ohohoho)


I did a doodle last night trying to sum up Marric and Fenris' relationship in a nutshell;

[DaiyoukaiGeisha]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

The Silly!Hawke option for after the same sex love scene made me crack up, personally. It is exactly what my Blood Mage Zack would say afterwards.

While that line is hilarious, F!Hawke's "Want a sandwich?" line makes me wish it was available in all of the romances.

Hawke: Was it that bad?

Fenris: No it was...better than anything I could have dreamed of. (is about to talk about his memories)

Hawke: Want a sandwich?

Fenris: That...that sounds good.

Would be even funnier if Hawke offered different types of food to different people.

After Fenris sexy-times:

"No it was...better than anything I could have dreamed of."

"I agree...Chicken?"

After Isabela sexy-times:
"For some reason I'm peckish for fish..."

And so on...

[Deliciously-Demonic]

And after Merrill sexy-times, you offer her a veggie-burger, obviously. :3