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#42376
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@Tank

There's not a real option to spare Coryphaeus, siding with Jeneka has you slaying Larius and releasing Cory from his prision. You still have to fight and kill him.

However I get the distinct feeling that Coryphaeus isn't gone. Notice how Larius suddenly is not under the influence of The Calling, and how his speech patterns take on Cory's slightly Shakespearian phasing. I get the feeling that either Warden is now possessed. Coryphaeus represents the hubris and corruption that created the Darkspawn, while The Architect seeks to end the Blights. It goes along with the whole theme of Change versus Status Quo that exists in DAO and DA2.

The other thing that interested me about Legacy is that we get a little tidbit into Bianca's past. If you look around when your in the Carta Hideout, there's a little letter from Varric to the Dwarf who built Bianca.

#42377
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{Spoiler}


Rivaled Templar Carver is really an ass in Legacy. Ugh! Just got past the first seal with him. I hope he gets better.

{/Spoiler}

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Patriciachr34 wrote...

{Spoiler}


Rivaled Templar Carver is really an ass in Legacy. Ugh! Just got past the first seal with him. I hope he gets better.

{/Spoiler}


I find that this makes it all better

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Ok so I haven't played with a romanced Fenris in the DLC but does he also have LI dialogue as Anders?

I read somewhere else that maybe he doesn't, which is pretty unfair considering even Sebastian might have something?

Hmm....I don't know my main romance is Fenris for the new playthrough with the DLC I'm doing....

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As far as romance triggers I've player through with romanced Fenris once, just after he left in act 2 (wanted Leandra alive for the first run through) I didn't notice anything that seemed to be LI dialogue.. has anyone tried with with a save after you get back together in Act3? Or from a post game save?

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ReiSilver wrote...

As far as romance triggers I've player through with romanced Fenris once, just after he left in act 2 (wanted Leandra alive for the first run through) I didn't notice anything that seemed to be LI dialogue.. has anyone tried with with a save after you get back together in Act3? Or from a post game save?


I did one playthrough with a post game save.  My Hawke, Magdalene was a rogue with Bethany in the Circle.  She brought Varric and a friendmanced (maxed out and completed Act 3 Questioning Beliefs) Fenris along (so my party was Hawke, Bethany, Varric, and Fenris).  I didn't notice any dialogue that seemed LI specific, but then again it's not out of character for him to be reticent in that regard either.  *shrug*

Anywho, loved the DLC  and I'm looking forward to playing with more combinations and stuff. :D

Modifié par Village Idiot, 27 juillet 2011 - 07:03 .


#42382
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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Patriciachr34 wrote...

{Spoiler} 


Rivaled Templar Carver is really an ass in Legacy. Ugh! Just got past the first seal with him. I hope he gets better.

{/Spoiler}


I find that this makes it all better


Awwh! Never thought I'd ever say this about anything relating to Carver, but that's too cute. I love it.

I also -adore- Rival!Carver and Sarcastic!Hawke's conversation after the final lock. Had me in stitches, it's exactly what me and my brothers would do and have done more times than I care to count. 
BioWare's been spot on with sibling-dynamics in that regard.

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Cause I can :D

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Dammmmnit spoilers why do I have to work. Wont be able to play for a few days. Well... see you all afterwards then.

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[quote]tankgirly wrote...

[quote]Dr. Doctor wrote...

SPOILER

So Coryphaeus was one of the Magisters who attempted to enter the Golden City. Judging from how hard the fight against Danarius was the bar for being a Magister must have been set lower since those days.

Fenris' Mansion Post-Legacy

Hawke: (tosses Fenris a bottle) For you.
[/quote]

Wait--how did you get this? I just finished, and there's nothing indicating I should talk to Fenris. Just in case, I went to the mansion, and all he said was "I enjoy following you."

#42386
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darkrose wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

SPOILER

So Coryphaeus was one of the Magisters who attempted to enter the Golden City. Judging from how hard the fight against Danarius was the bar for being a Magister must have been set lower since those days.

Fenris' Mansion Post-Legacy

Hawke: (tosses Fenris a bottle) For you.


Wait--how did you get this? I just finished, and there's nothing indicating I should talk to Fenris. Just in case, I went to the mansion, and all he said was "I enjoy following you."


Considering the lovely snippets Dr. Doctor has already posted in this thread, I assume the Post-Legacy bit is purely fictional. =)

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Lilunebrium wrote...

darkrose wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

SPOILER

So Coryphaeus was one of the Magisters who attempted to enter the Golden City. Judging from how hard the fight against Danarius was the bar for being a Magister must have been set lower since those days.

Fenris' Mansion Post-Legacy

Hawke: (tosses Fenris a bottle) For you.


Wait--how did you get this? I just finished, and there's nothing indicating I should talk to Fenris. Just in case, I went to the mansion, and all he said was "I enjoy following you."


Considering the lovely snippets Dr. Doctor has already posted in this thread, I assume the Post-Legacy bit is purely fictional. =)



:blush:

I wish they were real. I have to admit that I was disappointed; I liked the DLC, but it would have been nice to have some acknowledgement that my Hawke stuck it out for three years and finally got his man back.

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darkrose wrote...

Lilunebrium wrote...

darkrose wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

SPOILER

So Coryphaeus was one of the Magisters who attempted to enter the Golden City. Judging from how hard the fight against Danarius was the bar for being a Magister must have been set lower since those days.

Fenris' Mansion Post-Legacy

Hawke: (tosses Fenris a bottle) For you.


Wait--how did you get this? I just finished, and there's nothing indicating I should talk to Fenris. Just in case, I went to the mansion, and all he said was "I enjoy following you."


Considering the lovely snippets Dr. Doctor has already posted in this thread, I assume the Post-Legacy bit is purely fictional. =)



:blush:

I wish they were real. I have to admit that I was disappointed; I liked the DLC, but it would have been nice to have some acknowledgement that my Hawke stuck it out for three years and finally got his man back.



I'm starting to think it's a bug. Considering how Anders, Isabella, Merrill and even Sebastian (imagine that) have lines relating to romance status, I find it weird no one's been able to get anything out of Fenris. 

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I just want to know why ANDERS comforts my Rival Hawke when I finish the Malcolm line, rather then Fenris.

I mean srsly.

#42390
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Lilunebrium wrote...

darkrose wrote...

:blush:

I wish they were real. I have to admit that I was disappointed; I liked the DLC, but it would have been nice to have some acknowledgement that my Hawke stuck it out for three years and finally got his man back.



I'm starting to think it's a bug. Considering how Anders, Isabella, Merrill and even Sebastian (imagine that) have lines relating to romance status, I find it weird no one's been able to get anything out of Fenris. 


First Zevran now Fenris, why must our hot elf boys have romance glitches?
Anyone know how to go diving for audio files? That would be one way of finding out if they're there and just not triggering.

#42391
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In Legacy, Fenris spoke to my character after completing the Malcolm's Will quest. That's all i've gotten out of him.

#42392
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spookyscarlett wrote...

In Legacy, Fenris spoke to my character after completing the Malcolm's Will quest. That's all i've gotten out of him.


Who else was in your party?

#42393
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This is why Crimsy waits until (at least) next year. When it's all released in one big pack with basegame. Then, all the glitches are bye-bye by then and I can get it for PC with everything.

Also, try just bringing ONLY Fenris in your party (if you can handle a two-person team-- usually works if Hawke can heal, but you pretty well have to ditch all the chests which is absolutely heartbreaking for sticky fingers) if you're trying to hear Fenris-specific lines. 'Twas way I heard most of his extra stuff in basegame (such as that he didn't follow the Qun, which is after Ketojan kills himself if you don't turn him over to the other Qunari). Although it probably won't do anything for the romance lines... if there are any...

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 27 juillet 2011 - 01:36 .


#42394
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ReiSilver wrote...

Lilunebrium wrote...

darkrose wrote...

:blush:

I wish they were real. I have to admit that I was disappointed; I liked the DLC, but it would have been nice to have some acknowledgement that my Hawke stuck it out for three years and finally got his man back.



I'm starting to think it's a bug. Considering how Anders, Isabella, Merrill and even Sebastian (imagine that) have lines relating to romance status, I find it weird no one's been able to get anything out of Fenris. 


First Zevran now Fenris, why must our hot elf boys have romance glitches?
Anyone know how to go diving for audio files? That would be one way of finding out if they're there and just not triggering.


SPOILERS


Personally, I suspect that it isn't a glitch. I think, because of the way the Fenris romance arc plays out, it would have been difficult to write lines that make sense at every point along the continuum of Fenris/Hawke's relationship. Take, for example, when you meet Zevran and Fenris pulls the jealousy card. If that triggers during the three-year break, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Likewise, some of the party banters about your romance.

So, I suppose I can understand why it was left out, even though it's disappointing.

My current peeve is that they couldn't include any Fenris romance stuff, but they managed to get in a Fenris/Isabela banter. Nothing against that pairing, but it kind of drove home the lack of Fenris/Hawke stuff even more.

#42395
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I did not come across any LI specific dialogue in the two Fenris romances I played through yesterday with two different parties. I am not sure if it is a bug, but I did notice that when my Hawke fell in battle he only got the standard "No" friendship response from Fenris and not the romanced one that I get in the regular game. Posted Image

Edit: Posted Image

Modifié par Hilde, 27 juillet 2011 - 02:18 .


#42396
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I didn't get any romance quips yet but Fenris and Varric are an amusing pair.

(paraphrasing)
Fenris: I thought all dwarves did was drink.
Varric: HEY!
Fenris: And lie, sorry about the omission. 
Varric: Now that's better. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 juillet 2011 - 02:24 .


#42397
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After Zevran's romance dialogue glitching for my Warden, and Fenris lacking any triggered dialogue for my bloodmage Hawke in Legacy, it feels like I have bad luck like many others regarding DAII lover dialogue! :blink:

When Fenris was talking to Varric about card games, all chatty together, I was half expecting a bit of banter with/about Hawke, but...waah.  The "lucky bastard" comments I hoped might relate to Fenris being in Hawke's favour, but nah, it was a card game hand.  Since they gave the others some funny and sweet dialogue, we can hope it was recorded and just another Zevran-style faux pas by the game. ;)

(Have to add though, Varric's dialogue was great throughout, and Fenris/Carver's conviction that all the dwarves were criminally insane was epic.)

Modifié par MaidOfWynne, 27 juillet 2011 - 02:27 .


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I'm playing through for the second time with Fenris Carver and Isabella, found the conversation between Carver and Fenris about hating Darkspawn and then hating mages that bought them into the world
Fenris: Then we're agreed on something.
Hawke: Tempered by an understanding that not all mages bear responcibility... right?
Carver: ugh, stow it.

That banter was so perfect for my Marric Hawke XD I could see him looking pleadingly at Isabela after and being all pretend hurt "Isabela! They're ganging up on me!"

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spookyscarlett wrote...
In Legacy, Fenris spoke to my character after completing the Malcolm's Will quest. That's all i've gotten out of him.

I didn't get this! I got Anders talking to my Hawke. >:( Fenris is the LI. I was angry. I took Fenris, Varris and Anders with me.

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Hilde wrote...

but I did notice that when my Hawke fell in battle he only got the standard "No" friendship response from Fenris and not the romanced one that I get in the regular game. Posted Image


...That's not a good sign.