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#42576
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Ineffable Igor wrote...

I am on a roll today.  I should really just make a fanmix and have done with it.  Collecting these is fun. ^_^


I always end up making a playlist for characters/couples I do fan art of, it helps get the mood right.
After I latched on to the Dr Who Doomsday music for my Dalish Warden I went looking through the Dr Who music for something to fit DA2 and settled on madame de pompadour it's background music, kind of sweet, tentative and almost fragile, kind of switching between sad and hopeful which I thought suited Hawke romancing Fenris

I also found a Hawke/Fenris playlist online which had the song Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps which I found really fitting for act 1-2 flirting or the gap years in the Fenris relationship, from Hawke's POV
It also has a male singer version
and a female singer version

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#42577
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tankgirly wrote...

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*Averts eyes from the cosplay by the fireplace* That is so.... adorable. XD


GNAS!  Your icon and signature...SO MUCH LOVE.  SO VERY AWESOME.   That is all.


I know, right? Everytime Gnas left a comment, I usually spend ages staring at all the Doctor Whos :wub:


Considering I just got into Doctor Who, Gnas makes me all kinds of happy :D

Back to Fenris tho, I really enjoy looking at people's different opinion on him. It allows me to think about what makes me really like him as a character.

And Maker knows this has probably been addressed before in all of these pages, but how does your Hawke deal and/or rationalize with the three year gap during the Fenris romance?

All of my Hawkes (I say all because I have yet to do a playthrough where I don't romance Fenris XD) end up living by the quote 'if you love something, set it free.' They know that if there is any chance of a lasting relationship with Fenris, they have to let him work through his issues. I am tempted to have my mage!Hawke try and flirt with Anders, and have the romance scene pop up, just for the RP purposes of her realizing how much she cares for Fenris, and tell Anders to get out. Or maybe I'm just evil like that :devil:

#42578
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ReiSilver wrote...


Edit for top of page :blink:
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Looks like his expression I had always imagined after he killed Hadriana :P

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So...age-old question. Do you guys like FF.net or some other medium better? I already have a DeviantArt account, but since I don't do visual art, I'm not sure that's the best place to post my fic, now that I've actually started to commit it to files.

I'm not sure I like FF.net's interface, but...

#42580
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dangereusegirl wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Village Idiot wrote...

Gnas wrote...

*Averts eyes from the cosplay by the fireplace* That is so.... adorable. XD


GNAS!  Your icon and signature...SO MUCH LOVE.  SO VERY AWESOME.   That is all.


I know, right? Everytime Gnas left a comment, I usually spend ages staring at all the Doctor Whos :wub:


Considering I just got into Doctor Who, Gnas makes me all kinds of happy :D

Back to Fenris tho, I really enjoy looking at people's different opinion on him. It allows me to think about what makes me really like him as a character.

And Maker knows this has probably been addressed before in all of these pages, but how does your Hawke deal and/or rationalize with the three year gap during the Fenris romance?

All of my Hawkes (I say all because I have yet to do a playthrough where I don't romance Fenris XD) end up living by the quote 'if you love something, set it free.' They know that if there is any chance of a lasting relationship with Fenris, they have to let him work through his issues. I am tempted to have my mage!Hawke try and flirt with Anders, and have the romance scene pop up, just for the RP purposes of her realizing how much she cares for Fenris, and tell Anders to get out. Or maybe I'm just evil like that :devil:


Oh man I have a whole scenario outlined for 'the three year gap' that I will probably never get around to doing but is my head canon. Short version: my Hawke needs to burn off energy to stop himself obessing over Meredith watching him/being Champion/Fenris and so flees to Anders' clinic and ends up helping out sick people there. This leads to letting Anders get close and Hawke feels incredibly guilty once he realises he's just using Anders for physical comfort and still loves Fenris so he breaks it off.
I've thought about doing the whole 'don't talk about Fenris like that!' bit in-game but it comes too soon for my head canon, I feel like Marric would need a year or more of pinning before he caved.

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Has anyone gotten that scene where rival Fenris betrays Hawke to Meridith during On the Loose. Does he do that if romanced too?

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Fleshdress wrote...

Has anyone gotten that scene where rival Fenris betrays Hawke to Meridith during On the Loose. Does he do that if romanced too?


Hmm, I didn't know that was possible! Interesting!

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UrsulaCousland wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...

Has anyone gotten that scene where rival Fenris betrays Hawke to Meridith during On the Loose. Does he do that if romanced too?


Hmm, I didn't know that was possible! Interesting!


I didn't know either, though I remember reading it somewhere on this forum. Problem is I have a tough time rivalmancing Fen cause I think the friendmance is so sweet, I really want to see this scene though.

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UrsulaCousland wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...

Has anyone gotten that scene where rival Fenris betrays Hawke to Meridith during On the Loose. Does he do that if romanced too?


Hmm, I didn't know that was possible! Interesting!


Yeah I think its when you go to Meredith to tell her that you killed the French boy with the really bad hair, that Fenris tells her that you're lying. Haven't actually ever gotten that to happen, so I dunno if romancing him is a factor.

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I thought all he says is:
"She does not believe you Hawke"

That is what I can recall him saying there.... huh let me load a save and see.

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can anyone tell me where to go online to get some good female mage robe pics. Working on a costume for some cosplay and can't seem to find any.

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Oooooo more songs! I constantly add to my fenris playlist (see sig). Always looking for good songs and such. Ill have to add these when I get home.

As for the 3 year gap my hawke does a couple of things. 1.) She is pissed and gives fen the cold shoulder for like a month. She tries to concentrate on herself and what is going on in her life. Then she either goes to Anders because he has always loved her or just concentrates on herself and does quests and escapes by herself. If going with Anders she realizes she can't go through with it and shocks even herself at the pain of Anders talking about fenris as a beast. Then eventually she just throws herself into the friend zone, accepting that it is enough for now. Perhaps she will find someone, and gets over it. This is where all the reading lessons and offscene stuff between her and fen are. She forgives him, and moves on. Then her mom dies and she just doesn't want a relationship anymore. Then the arishok and she says I am so not destined for love or happiness so f it.

Pretty basic rundown, lol.

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Arquen wrote...

Oooooo more songs! I constantly add to my fenris playlist (see sig). Always looking for good songs and such. Ill have to add these when I get home.

As for the 3 year gap my hawke does a couple of things. 1.) She is pissed and gives fen the cold shoulder for like a month. She tries to concentrate on herself and what is going on in her life. Then she either goes to Anders because he has always loved her or just concentrates on herself and does quests and escapes by herself. If going with Anders she realizes she can't go through with it and shocks even herself at the pain of Anders talking about fenris as a beast. Then eventually she just throws herself into the friend zone, accepting that it is enough for now. Perhaps she will find someone, and gets over it. This is where all the reading lessons and offscene stuff between her and fen are. She forgives him, and moves on. Then her mom dies and she just doesn't want a relationship anymore. Then the arishok and she says I am so not destined for love or happiness so f it.

Pretty basic rundown, lol.


I am pretty sure it hasn't worked out for me in the past, but can you get Anders to come over then kick him out and still reconcile your relationship with Fenris later? I seem to remember Anders shutting down my Fenris romance.

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So I've been on vacation and just finished the Legacy DLC. Can someone get me up to date on this whole Fenris glitch thing? What all are we missing? Stupid bugs.

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Hmm if you were a Zevran fan you already know the song and the dance steps for the Fenris bug blues. Lack of recognizing your romance. Go back a couple pages though and someone has a link so you can hear the dialogue we were supposed to have. It may be enough to tide you over till it gets fixed. Also Luke has stated he is looking into the romance bug.

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#42591
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yoshibb wrote...

So I've been on vacation and just finished the Legacy DLC. Can someone get me up to date on this whole Fenris glitch thing? What all are we missing? Stupid bugs.


I don't know how we're going in the fixing thing department but you can hear the missing LI dialogue here: on youtube at about 4:20

#42592
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dangereusegirl wrote...
Considering I just got into Doctor Who, Gnas makes me all kinds of happy :D

Back to Fenris tho, I really enjoy looking at people's different opinion on him. It allows me to think about what makes me really like him as a character.

And Maker knows this has probably been addressed before in all of these pages, but how does your Hawke deal and/or rationalize with the three year gap during the Fenris romance?

All of my Hawkes (I say all because I have yet to do a playthrough where I don't romance Fenris XD) end up living by the quote 'if you love something, set it free.' They know that if there is any chance of a lasting relationship with Fenris, they have to let him work through his issues. I am tempted to have my mage!Hawke try and flirt with Anders, and have the romance scene pop up, just for the RP purposes of her realizing how much she cares for Fenris, and tell Anders to get out. Or maybe I'm just evil like that :devil:


Oh God, I love yakking about my Hawke, brace yourselves.

I play an aggressive F!Hawke.  I've alway been of the opinion that you haven't really played until you've played aggressive, because you get some of the coolest dialogue ("You may not wear chains anymore, but you're not free!" "YOU KNOW NOTHING OF BEING A SLAVE!" /belligerentsexualtension+awesomelinedelivery).  One of my favorite lines is just after All That Remains and Gamlen comes out and says something like "I'm not like you, I can't shove my feelings into a corner and pretend they don't exist!"  I always felt like that was a really good summation of how Aggressive!Hawke opperates when it comes to feelings he/she is afraid to deal with. 

I figure that after That Night, my Hawke is really broken up over it, but as always she shoves it into the corner and stubbornly continues on like nothing's wrong.  Never confronts the feelings, making it pretty much impossible for her to move on and be happy.  She's not good at happy, especially when she can't be with the guy she won't admit she loves.  I mean, I'm fairly certain Fenris wasn't trying to move on with anyone else or making trips to the Blooming Rose over those three years.  I think he was sitting at home brooding, as per usual, with a generous dollop of pining.  And a lot of wine.  My Hawke just does the Hawke equivalent of this: venting her frustrations by kicking ass and ****ing at people.  For three years.  

They sort of deserve each other, the idiots. <3

tl;dr: My Hawke is a stupid ****.  This whole Fenris situation could have been avoided if she had a sassy gay friend.   

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Ineffable Igor wrote:

Oh God, I love yakking about my Hawke, brace yourselves.



So do I. :wizard:

 It's interesting. Thanks to Legacy I'm basically going to be realligning my canon playthrough so my canon Warden import is the basis, not my Queen Cousland. That basically means I'm throwing out my ideas on the 3 year gap that may or may not have included certain Ferelden royalty. (It doesn't now!)

Basically, what I see happening there is things are really rocky for a bit - I'm working on a confrontation fairly soon after it happens. But, basically, Hawke accepts that Fenris has to deal with his past on his own, and he isn't willing to let anyone, even her, into that arena. That puts them on the path to at least being friends again; when Leandra dies, things stay in the friend zone, but I think it at least makes Hawke realize that he still cares. Also, in my head!canon, the Arishok comes very close to killing Hawke; she risks everything to take him out before her injuries kill her and only survives because Anders is there and intervenes as soon as the Arishok drops. This makes Fenris take a hard look at the possibility of what living without Hawke would really be like, and he doesn't like what he sees. 

He still has to work things out on his own, and Hawke leaves Kirkwall for her own sanity once she recovers from her duel with the Arishok. I'm still working on what happens there because I just threw out everything I'd written for it thanks to Legacy and restarting the PT. :devil: Oh well. 

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Hmm my Hawke was a sarcastic ass with everyone but Fenris. When Fenris leaves he really had no time to be mad or hurt by Fen since after that night my Hawke walked sownstairs to find Gamlen and the mission of hearty wrenching brokeness. Fenris then stuck his hand into Dupuis and my Hawke forgave all his faults and fell in love all over. That scene screamed: "You hurt my Hawke...I kill you!"

Later as everything settles my Hawke coped by not leaving Fenris alone. In my head he spent a ton of time in Fenris' house teaching him to read and basically avoiding his own empty mansion of bad memories and chills. When I leave the game I always plop him in Fenris' room so thats where he is when I come back. He doesn't spend his night at home and though they are stuck in awkward friend land Fenris never makes him go home either.

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Fleshdress wrote...

Hmm my Hawke was a sarcastic ass with everyone but Fenris. When Fenris leaves he really had no time to be mad or hurt by Fen since after that night my Hawke walked sownstairs to find Gamlen and the mission of hearty wrenching brokeness. Fenris then stuck his hand into Dupuis and my Hawke forgave all his faults and fell in love all over. That scene screamed: "You hurt my Hawke...I kill you!"

Later as everything settles my Hawke coped by not leaving Fenris alone. In my head he spent a ton of time in Fenris' house teaching him to read and basically avoiding his own empty mansion of bad memories and chills. When I leave the game I always plop him in Fenris' room so thats where he is when I come back. He doesn't spend his night at home and though they are stuck in awkward friend land Fenris never makes him go home either.


Oh yeah. That figures into my Hawke's assessment as well - that's pretty tangible evidence that Fenris still cares in her book! 

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I don't let Emille De Launcet go. He's institutionalized to the point that he can't function in normal society. Or what passes for normal in Kirkwall.

And with that, Prompt time.

Larius
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Fenris: Here we are marching around in a dark pit filled to the brim with ancient evils with a taint-crazed Warden.

Carver: Larius isn't that bad actually, but then again my cousin isn't exactly the best example of a Warden-Commander. Come to think of it, other than father I've never really known anyone from the Circle who was right in the head...

Amaranthine


Amell: Who's ready for a trip into the Blackmarsh?

Carver: Why in the Maker's name would we go there? It's full of werewolves, and dragons, and all manner of Maker-forsaken creatures!

Amell: That's exactly why we're going in there!

Carver: Because there's Darkspawn?

Amell: No silly, because there's adventure to be had!

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Fleshdress wrote...

Has anyone gotten that scene where rival Fenris betrays Hawke to Meridith during On the Loose. Does he do that if romanced too?


Hawke: Emile was killed.
Meredith: Yet we have no body? No witness to a battle? Most curious.
Fenris: You may, in fact, find the corpse fleeing for his life. He will not be difficult to find.

Got that first playthrough. I wanted to punch him SO hard. Didn't get it on second playthrough (Same Hawke but with a guide to get all the annoying sidequests done). Only difference? Max Rivalry. Max Friendship would probably do the same. His final Questioning Beliefs might also factor in. Oh and he was romanced as well both times. 

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GhostlyMaiden wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...

Has anyone gotten that scene where rival Fenris betrays Hawke to Meridith during On the Loose. Does he do that if romanced too?


Hawke: Emile was killed.
Meredith: Yet we have no body? No witness to a battle? Most curious.
Fenris: You may, in fact, find the corpse fleeing for his life. He will not be difficult to find.

Got that first playthrough. I wanted to punch him SO hard. Didn't get it on second playthrough (Same Hawke but with a guide to get all the annoying sidequests done). Only difference? Max Rivalry. Max Friendship would probably do the same. His final Questioning Beliefs might also factor in. Oh and he was romanced as well both times. 


Ah. I *think* I may have left Fenris sleeping off a hangover when I turned that quest  in when I didn't convince Emile to return to the circle. :)  (In canon, I talked Meridith into going easy on him.)

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Oh crap, I like Fenris too much cause that line is hilarious. Fenris is the king of dry snark.

"Well this mansion does require some upkeep." Lol.

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UrsulaCousland wrote...

So...age-old question. Do you guys like FF.net or some other medium better? I already have a DeviantArt account, but since I don't do visual art, I'm not sure that's the best place to post my fic, now that I've actually started to commit it to files.

I'm not sure I like FF.net's interface, but...



I posted my fan fic on both dA and FFN. I like some features on FFN.