Gahh why do you guys always poke at my philosophical brain, LOL.
One of my favorite quotes on Freedom is by Marcel: "The experience of freedom cannot be achieved unless the subject extricates themselves from the grip of egocentrism, since freedom is not simply doing what desire dictates. The person who sees themself as autonomous within oneself has a freedom based on ill-fated egocentrism. They err in believing freedom to be rooted on Independence."
Basically Fenris is at a crucial stage where he has achieved a freedom, but not a true freedom. As CGG said happiness is much more likely to achieve than freedom. My favorite philosophical discussion is that of the Free Will and Freedom problem. Hence one of the reasons I'm drawn to Fenris in the first place, LOL. Anders as well.
Yet, my thoughts to Fenris on Freedom would be more along the lines of. "Freedom is like Justice, a noble ideal. It belongs in the world of ideals. Your Freedom already exists, but that isn't the point. The point is to live and realize that Freedom is always about the possibilities of the self. Right now, those possibilities are endless."
As far as the elvish discussion. I can't really comment to much since I'm not an expert in elven history or the old gods or anything. What I like about Fenris' statement at the Gallows is because it is one of the only times he relates himself to the elvish race. Tevinter enslaved the elves and took their homeland. They used magic to do it. They still use magic today. So, I don't doubt Fenris acknowledges that elves had magic, but he isn't wrong that Tevinter used magic to enslave and still oppress and subjugate elves to this day.
As for Tevinter teachings. From the Legacy dialogue Fenris states that slaves aren't allowed to hear or receive teachings of the Chantry. However, his spin on their teachings is hilarious, and from what it seems they are more propaganda mongering in Tevinter than in the rest of Thedas. I think Fenris eventually could get on board with at least some of the Andrastian teachings, but I always assumed he is more agnostic and definitely takes it with a grain of salt. He seems to believe in the Maker though, even if his beliefs are existential (we are alone in the world.) -- Gahh more reasons to love Fenris.
Oooo Oooo have to add a quote from Code Geass too, because I can't resist!
"We wondered what happiness would look like if we could give it a physical form... that the shape of happiness might resemble glass. His reasoning made sense. He said that even though you don't usually notice it, its still definitely there. You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light. I doubt that anything else could argue its own existence more eloquently." - Lelouch
Sorry, but it is so what I thought of when thinking of happiness as a goal instead of freedom
Modifié par Arquen, 11 août 2011 - 10:57 .
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