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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

I see them both as stubborn and unchanging - even if you rival Anders, it's more about blaming himself for merging with Justice than "the templars are right and mages should be locked up". And Fenris pretty much tells a mage Hawke that they're stronger than most mages/that Bethany is stronger than most mages. Fenris sees Anders as a weak mage, and unless Anders somehow manages to rid himself of Justice and becomes Fenris' image of a strong mage, then it'll never happen. (Maybe I'm just pessimistic.) So it's very out-of-character for both of them unless done carefully and gradually - I want a Fenders fic that is less about sex and more about them slowly trusting each other. Hell, I want it to have no smut at all. It's not even necessary for a good slash story.

Which brings me to another pet peeve - fanfics that imply that Justice has a thing for Fenris due to the lyrium. I think Justice would be attracted in a non-sexual way to the lyrium, but not the elf that comes with it. If anything, Justice should loathe Fenris. Justice has become a rabid Knight Templar, therefore he's even less likely to change his views than Anders.


I've only read about a dozen Fenders fics (and comics) and, as I said before, 80% of the ones I've read are about them slowly building trust. Maybe I find them in the right places? Most of them I've gotten off of tumblr, or deviantart links. If you haven't read gone-batty's Turning Point, check it out. No smut, just a kiss, and (in my opinion) completely in character. The stories I've read since then are mostly recs from either gone-batty or other fanartists I respect, rather than just surfing the k!meme. I mean the k!meme produces some great stuff, but I've never been able to just browse it... sadly the stories are mostly assembled on tumbr, so I can't find links immediately.

My favorite Fenders-ish story isn't actually a Fenders story at all... it's more like Fenris and Anders having the character development they usually have in Fenders stories, but without romance. It covers a single conversation they have after the end game, when everyone is drifting away from Hawke, and Anders is the last one to leave before mage!Hawke and Fenris go off on their own. Anders and Fenris are alone together without Hawke, and Anders asks Fenris to take care of her, and explains that one day, the Templars will come for HER, and that that's what Anders is trying to prevent, but it's going to happen. He points out that what Fenris should keep that in mind when he's supporting the current system: the current system means that, to be with mage!Hawke, he still can never really stop running. At the end, Anders wants to leave without saying goodbye to Hawke, and Fenris stops him, telling him that he is important to Hawke and she deserves a goodbye.

There's another Fenders I like that starts similarly, only the Hawke in that story is with Merril. That one is a backup to an Amell/Cullen fic, where she's roaming Thedas trying to turn the mage revolution into something that has half a chance of working.

As for the Justice thing, I've said before that I think Fenris might have liked Awakening Justice. I don't think that Anders has to rid himself of Justice for it to work, rather Fenris would have to have reason to understand the difference between a demon and a spirit... which I don't think is unreasonable. Hell, I'd imagine a relationship with Fenris could turn Justice more back to the cause of generalized Justice, not solely mage-related justice. And Fenris doesn't exactly seem to be against the idea of vengeance in general... he's pretty much all about pursuing his own vengeance.

Then again I think a lot of Fenris and Anders' unchanging natures is a lot about Hawke's approach: Hawke reacts to them, but doesn't proactively try to push them in one direction... rather she offers up different perspectives and lets them decide whether or not they want to change. One of the reasons I enjoy Fenders is that I believe it's a way to show them reacting to someone who pushes them harder, without making Hawke behave in a way that's inconsistent with her actions in game.


I really wish more of those stories were like that, CGG.  You're lucky to have found them.

ToP: Jho's teaser sketch:

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Modifié par Sialater, 20 septembre 2011 - 09:28 .


#44977
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Hurray! 1800 page, we reached 1800 page!

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Oh, wow, that's gorgeous.

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Sialater wrote...

Oh, wow, that's gorgeous.


It is, isn't it? I have the previliage to assist melredux to run a MEG (anyone remember this lovely nickname XD ?) fan group over at dA, and it's folders are now fill with gorgeous Tevinter elf fanart.

one more

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Wow that sketch is amazing - his eyes are luminous!

And the other two are great two - very different but great. I like the little wolf  - Ok I LOVE the little wolf, and the little flufflly white one is cute too :P

Modifié par Cosmochyck, 20 septembre 2011 - 11:09 .


#44981
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tankgirly wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Oh, wow, that's gorgeous.


It is, isn't it? I have the previliage to assist melredux to run a MEG (anyone remember this lovely nickname XD ?) fan group over at dA, and it's folders are now fill with gorgeous Tevinter elf fanart.

one more

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That is too sweet! :)

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@omearaee, the fluffy wolf or the elf?

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Happy 1800! Here's a Louvette classic to celebrate!

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Edit: Removed the pastry for more Fenris on 1800. :)

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 20 septembre 2011 - 11:45 .


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...........16 hours later - One feedback? Posted Image Come oooooooonnnnnnn people, help me out, please? I'll give you cookies?


Still, Fenart....Mmmmmmmmm.

That little wolf one is so freakin adorable.

Happy 1800 Fenris Thread!

Modifié par Tashash, 21 septembre 2011 - 01:03 .


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Collider wrote...

Shipping rule #30:
If two male characters hate each other, they actually just want to sleep with each other.



I hate this rule. It ruins the lives of anybody who writes (professionally or recreationally). Because technically, with this rule in my own story, I have like... four male villains all trying to screw one of my main male characters (who's a distantly related cousin/nephew, and is totally in love with and married to those four's worst nightmare as she can HAPPILY end their lives), a villain and a good guy who are brothers trying to go at it (which is where red flags go completely bonkers for me-- incest is not cute or funny), plus three of my opening temporary characters would be together because they bickered. 

I now want to start over after 288 painstakingly handwritten pages.

[/end WAY off-topic Crimsynn]

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Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Collider wrote...

Shipping rule #30:
If two male characters hate each other, they actually just want to sleep with each other.



I hate this rule. It ruins the lives of anybody who writes (professionally or recreationally). Because technically, with this rule in my own story, I have like... four male villains all trying to screw one of my main male characters (who's a distantly related cousin/nephew, and is totally in love with and married to those four's worst nightmare as she can HAPPILY end their lives), a villain and a good guy who are brothers trying to go at it (which is where red flags go completely bonkers for me-- incest is not cute or funny), plus three of my opening temporary characters would be together because they bickered. 

I now want to start over after 288 painstakingly handwritten pages.

[/end WAY off-topic Crimsynn]

Ignore the rules, Crimsynn. Ignore the rules! Posted Image

Page 1800 deserves some dancing Fen.
http://arylas.devian...llery/#/d49mevm
http://arylas.deviantart.com/
...I'm not actually sure if that'll work. Posted Image

Edit: Damnit, didn't work. Posted Image

Have this one instead:
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http://stubborn-grime.deviantart.com/

This darn contest entry is taking me entirely too long. I miss drawing/painting Fenris. Posted Image

Modifié par Tealsie, 21 septembre 2011 - 01:52 .


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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Two Handed swords only weigh upwards of like 15 pounds at the HEAVIEST.
To a trained fighter that is not overly heavy.

Playing a blood mage Hawke right now makes me sad that Anders and Fenris have nothing to say about it. Especially since Hawke uses Fenris as a health battery a lot.

What can I say I find humor in that.


Really?! I thought they'd be much heavier!

Modifié par Arcane_Solona, 21 septembre 2011 - 02:03 .


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*brain explodes*

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@ Ultipup - LOL!

That is so bad it's AWESOME.


CRIMESEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted Image *Glopmh-tackls Crimson*

I haven't seen you in AGES! *grumble Stupid real life with no sexy, broody elves or teiflings mumble* Posted Image

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YAY!!! Page 1800 pic-spam!

LOL, CGG and me agree on something and then BAM! Fenders happens. A topic which we don't agree on at all. I hate Fenders discussion, done to death. Moving on....

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by TheSweetestTart on DA

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by MarikaCzajkowa on DA

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by DarianaLoki on DA

and SHAMELESS PLUG.. muahaha
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by Arquen on DA *blush*
Oh, Fenart... I can't ever get enough of it. Happy page 1800 to our favorite elf :wizard:

Modifié par Arquen, 21 septembre 2011 - 02:36 .


#44991
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Vrex_12 wrote...

Man, been gone for a while. Social life takes the time of me. Anyway, have a Fenris<.

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Since we where talking about pretty eyes.

Meeszy Alexy wrote...
I can't stand Anders, but I think he's interestingly-written character. ^_^


Something I completely agree on.




Those eyes. Sigh. They will be the death of me:wub:

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 Oh, and happy 1800!!! This just proves to show how awesome our little wolf is.B)

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How appropriate. The Fenris theme just came up on the music mix. *enjoys the arts along with his theme*

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 21 septembre 2011 - 02:54 .


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@Arquen - Oooooh - I haven't seen any of those before *drools*

And yours....Maker those EYES! You have oficially made my day.
Does he have his hands down Hawke's shirt there?.....Yes, yes he does Posted Image *fans self* I think I need some of Isabela's patented 'alone time'. Posted Image

Modifié par Tashash, 21 septembre 2011 - 03:22 .


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Meeps... I forgot Wolf's Rain... obligatory posting for 1800 awesome! Because it is beautiful and one of my favs.

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by DragonReine on DA

*dances away*

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Tashash wrote...

@Arquen - Oooooh - I haven't seen any of those before *drools*

And yours....Maker those EYES! You have oficially made my day.
Does he have his hands down Hawke's shirt there?.....Yes, yes he does Posted Image *fans self* I think I need some of Isabela's patented 'alone time'. Posted Image


"HOT" doesn't even BEGIN to cover it, right?! And I came across the picture while in a LAW LECTURE. It was all I could do to supress a SQUEEEEEEEEE and an incessant fit of giggles. Oh, Fenris... The way you make me feel! *Michael Jackson song starts playing in head*

The way you make me feel,
You really turn me on,
You knock me off my feet,
My lonely days are gone,
OW! 

:wub::wub:

Modifié par Arcane_Solona, 21 septembre 2011 - 03:29 .


#44997
Madame Rose Crimsynn

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Tealsie wrote...

Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Collider wrote...

Shipping rule #30:
If two male characters hate each other, they actually just want to sleep with each other.



I hate this rule. It ruins the lives of anybody who writes (professionally or recreationally). Because technically, with this rule in my own story, I have like... four male villains all trying to screw one of my main male characters (who's a distantly related cousin/nephew, and is totally in love with and married to those four's worst nightmare as she can HAPPILY end their lives), a villain and a good guy who are brothers trying to go at it (which is where red flags go completely bonkers for me-- incest is not cute or funny), plus three of my opening temporary characters would be together because they bickered. 

I now want to start over after 288 painstakingly handwritten pages.

[/end WAY off-topic Crimsynn]

Ignore the rules, Crimsynn. Ignore the rules! Posted Image


Oh, don't worry, I do. That's just me being really over-dramatic. I couldn't get rid of 288 painstakingly handwritten pages unless I wanted to kill myself with self-loathing. I couldn't even bring myself to rip out four really, really, bad ones that would've messed up the flow of the story if I had kept them-- I made one of my friends do it, and then two others took the four pages and spent the next twenty minutes ripping them into little pieces so they could laugh as I mourned over them before re-writing the section.


Have this one instead:
<Snip da sexy>
http://stubborn-grime.deviantart.com/

This darn contest entry is taking me entirely too long. I miss drawing/painting Fenris. Posted Image


Do it. DOO EET!

Tashash wrote...
CRIMESEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted Image *Glopmh-tackls Crimson*

I haven't seen you in AGES! *grumble Stupid real life with no sexy, broody elves or teiflings mumble* Posted Image


Tash! *Hug!* 'Tis been too long! Want a non-fattening virtual cookie:P

=Edit=

I missed Arquen's flood of pictures somehow.

*Fans self*

=Edit 2=

And this song came on. And for some reason I want to write an FF about a Hawke named Melusine who uses blood magic once every week, and 'tis supposed to be a secret but, oops! Party (more specifically, Fenris) finds out. (Based around the actual legend of Melusine, who had a dirty secret that she turned into a half fish or half snake every Saturday (this depends on the legend) and had to hide from everyone, including her husband, on that day. Her husband was actually pretty good about it, until he spied on her twice and she got kinda pissed, turned into a dragon and flew away). Although, now glancing back at the actual legend, it would be priceless to do a Melusine Hawke who did turn into a half-fish on Saturdays like her namesake just because Fenris does not like fish.

(Crimsynn needs coffee. Or sleep. Or both.)

Modifié par Madame Rose Crimsynn, 21 septembre 2011 - 03:39 .


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Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Tashash wrote...
CRIMESEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted Image *Glopmh-tackls Crimson*

I haven't seen you in AGES! *grumble Stupid real life with no sexy, broody elves or teiflings mumble* Posted Image


Tash! *Hug!* 'Tis been too long! Want a non-fattening virtual cookie:P


Why thank you, don't mind if I do! *Dives in*

Got a new story, if your interested, just about to post the second chapter on my FF.net account. Will probably have a preview of the third up here later.

FENRISFENRISFENRIS!!! *Drools* 

Edit.

Oh Gods Crimsy! Posted Image 

How am I supposed to write angst with that image in my head?

Modifié par Tashash, 21 septembre 2011 - 03:43 .


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Tashash wrote...

<Snip>
Oh Gods Crimsy! Posted Image 

How am I supposed to write angst with that image in my head?


Go into the Valen thread and read the post I just put up. What I did in here last was nothing

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Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

Tashash wrote...

<Snip>
Oh Gods Crimsy! Posted Image 

How am I supposed to write angst with that image in my head?


Go into the Valen thread and read the post I just put up. What I did in here last was nothing


Crimsy what did you do.........*Runs to Valen thread*

*Stops, stares. Backs out slowly.*

*Falls over laughing*

OK, that's a whole lot weirder than my dream....Which involved getting kidnapped by Fenris....In Middle Earth....During 'The Hobbit'.

Methinks there's something wrong with us...