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I tried to play ME, I really did, but it just sat their mocking me with my inabilty to it things. people kept dying and I kept getting lost. I was rather horrid. But I have been playing Assassins Creed lately and neglecting my playthrough after the trauma of deleting all my completed games.
 
Now I am trying to push through to at least a romanced character. Otherwise the DLC will be Dissapoint. Finally romance stuff that triggers and I have no romanced characters. Brasca!Posted Image

Crap, TOP I have nothing!

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Heidenreich wrote...

You can friend Fenris fairly easily and still be pro-mage. Just remember not to bring him along on quests where you're going to be strongly pro-mage.

You can do little things, like go talk to Thrask instead of Faynriel's father and then choose the bottom option (which simply says, "leaving an untrained mage to their own devices is dangerous".. which, is true, and not really at all anti-mage)..

In my signature is a 50% at act 1 guide. In it are some friendship points outlined as well.. its fairly easy to get big chunks of friendship just with his chat-in-the-mansion after you've recruited him


as for the gifts, they'll give you points (and play out differently) depending on what path you're already on. So if you're rivalry, they'll give you rivalry.. etc etc.


The scale itself is 120 I -believe-. Don't quote me though because I'm not positive.


Thank you! and i did read your guide. it was very useful.

i did want to clarify though, since THIS is what I'm unsure of:  "depending on what path you're already on"

does that mean you need to be in 50% friendship or rivalry to get more points, or is it simply where you're leaning?

thanks for answering this. it's hugely helpful

Modifié par sagequeen, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:15 .


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 Near-ToP - so glad Splintter (forgot her real name) is willing to share such things!

*fangirl squee*

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Fleshdress wrote...

I tried to play ME, I really did, but it just sat their mocking me with my inabilty to it things. people kept dying and I kept getting lost. I was rather horrid. But I have been playing Assassins Creed lately and neglecting my playthrough after the trauma of deleting all my completed games.
 
Now I am trying to push through to at least a romanced character. Otherwise the DLC will be Dissapoint. Finally romance stuff that triggers and I have no romanced characters. Brasca!Posted Image

Crap, TOP I have nothing!

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Oh yeah. :) I love that! (And yes, I had a feeling he was crossing his fingers from the first time I saw this scene, and I wasn't about to object!)

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UrsulaCousland wrote...

 Near-ToP - so glad Splintter (forgot her real name) is willing to share such things!

*fangirl squee*

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The animator who did most of the Fenris scene in game, and Meredith 'will not faltered' scene! I totally adrore her work!


:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

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Hi fellow  Fenris fans !

I wish i could go meet Gideon Emery in London :(.
Is anyone planning on going ?

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sagequeen wrote...

Heidenreich wrote...

You can friend Fenris fairly easily and still be pro-mage. Just remember not to bring him along on quests where you're going to be strongly pro-mage.

You can do little things, like go talk to Thrask instead of Faynriel's father and then choose the bottom option (which simply says, "leaving an untrained mage to their own devices is dangerous".. which, is true, and not really at all anti-mage)..

In my signature is a 50% at act 1 guide. In it are some friendship points outlined as well.. its fairly easy to get big chunks of friendship just with his chat-in-the-mansion after you've recruited him


as for the gifts, they'll give you points (and play out differently) depending on what path you're already on. So if you're rivalry, they'll give you rivalry.. etc etc.


The scale itself is 120 I -believe-. Don't quote me though because I'm not positive.


Thank you! and i did read your guide. it was very useful.

i did want to clarify though, since THIS is what I'm unsure of:  "depending on what path you're already on"

does that mean you need to be in 50% friendship or rivalry to get more points, or is it simply where you're leaning?

thanks for answering this. it's hugely helpful


That just means if you're in the red (even a little bit) then you'll get rivalry. If you're in the blue (even just a little bit) then you'll get friendship. You don't need to be at 50%. I actually recomend the gifts to GET people there for romancing goodness ;p

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CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Actually, whether or not Anders killed innocents IS up for interpretation. I mean technically,based solely on the information we have from the in-game cutscene, he may have only killed Elthina and Templars... do you consider them innocents? No matter what, Anders blew up the Chantry and killed soldiers and their leader. He might have killed some other people who may or may not have been innocent... who do you count as an innocent?


Since the cutscene is very short and doesn't show everyone who might be in the Chantry, I've got to go with what we see throughout the game. There are sisters, and people praying. There may be novice templars like Alistair, children who got shoved there because no one knew what to do with them. In addition, being in a fantasy world doesn't entirely negate the laws of physics. The Chantry was a big building in the center of a shopping and residential district. All of that masonry had to go somewhere. 

I don't think Anders set out to kill innocents, but I think that by the time he reached that point, he told himself that anyone who wasn't a mage or actively fighting the system was complicit in it and therefore, there are no true innocents. 

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sagequeen wrote...

so, hi, dropping by (again) with a semi-related question. i now like fenris SO much i just need to try out rivalry and friendship both (you've convinced me!)

i find it very easy to rival fenris as pro-mage mage(rivalry and i'm not even done with act 1), but i'm plotting out how to friend him (but just barely - gotta have it be a close finish for funsies) for a pro-mage mage.

am i correct in thinking that friend/rivalry is on a 100 point scale? that is, once you hit 50 pts. rivalry that you're a rival and then 100 points you're locked in? also, does that mean the romance merely needs 50 points to trigger or do you need more than that?

my reasoning is that just now i locked in rivalry with fenris. it took me 60 points of rivalry to do it. but i honestly can't remember if i originally picked up +5 friendship along the way (and so had to 'backtrack') or if you need 60 points to hit rivalry and then 120 for locking in (as in, there are 120 points either way and you need a percentage of them).

okay, maybe i'm not making sense. not even sure if this is where to ask that....

oh, and also, i see that some quests require existing friendship/rivalry to get further friendship/rivalry, but the first 'gift' quest does not, right? the book one?



To friendmance Fenris as a pro-mage mage:

Don't take Fenris on certain quests (Act of Mercy, giving the letter to Thrask). 

DO take Fenris on anything involving slavers. Always kill the slavers or better yet, let Fenris do it. It makes him happy. This is actually why I ended up friendmancing him: I kept killing slavers, and he liked me for it.

Back him completely during A Bitter Pill. Let him decide what to do with Hadriana. Once that quest is complete, things like gifts will increase his tendency in whichever direction you're going.

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MotA? Check. Dr Pepper? Check. Leftover Chinese food? Check. I'm off to enjoy this.

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Modifié par darkrose, 11 octobre 2011 - 03:03 .


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tankgirly wrote...

UrsulaCousland wrote...

 Near-ToP - so glad Splintter (forgot her real name) is willing to share such things!

*fangirl squee*

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The animator who did most of the Fenris scene in game, and Meredith 'will not faltered' scene! I totally adrore her work!


:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:


Does anyone else have an irrisistable urge to reach out and smooth out the lines between his eyes?

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 The recent discussions about Fenris and his opinions on magic and mages prompted this, if anyone's interested.

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darkrose wrote...

 The recent discussions about Fenris and his opinions on magic and mages prompted this, if anyone's interested.


Andraste on a spit - WOW Darkrose!

I actually had goosebumps and felt a little ill reading Fenris' dream...In a compliemtary way - you brought that to life in my head.

And I think you may have jumpstarted WtWGU's muse - So thank you sooo much.

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Have you guys heard Charming Hawke do an Orlesian accent? It is quite hilarious.

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-_-

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Hm...I hope Fenris has some good lines in the new DLC.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Hm...I hope Fenris has some good lines in the new DLC.


He'd better! And if his romance lines are bugged again...IT WONT BE PRETTY!

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If that happens again I will nerdrage like no other.

#45770
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I think I might need a BSN blackout as I can't really have the DLC for another week. Arh....this is torturing!

Modifié par tankgirly, 11 octobre 2011 - 05:47 .


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*Sigh* I'm working the next three days, and I don't really like having to play a new game if I know I can't spend as much time as I want on it. So no DLC for me until Saturday.

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I am wearing blinders just in case but does anyone know if it makes a difference whether I take three year gap Fenris, or romance continued Fenris with? Cause It is taking forever to get this playthrough into act three I have been playing on and off all day and I really want to play the DLC.

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Fleshdress wrote...

I am wearing blinders just in case but does anyone know if it makes a difference whether I take three year gap Fenris, or romance continued Fenris with? Cause It is taking forever to get this playthrough into act three I have been playing on and off all day and I really want to play the DLC.


Don't actually know, but it did (or should have *grumbleromancedialougebuggerup*) in Legacy. I would assume it'd be the same for MotA.

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Guess I'll have to play three year gap first. but save before so that I can scam my way into playing both ways on one character. God quests! You are forever the bane of my romance existence!

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On my second play-through, just as I was about to go into the cave to take out Decimus, Fenris looked over at Hawke and gave the sweetest little smile. *Swoon* I have no idea if it was just a fluke of where he happened to be standing or in response to something Hawke said but it didn't happen the next time. :(

Good to know I could try playing as a mage and still do the Fenris fandango though. heh.