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[Arcane_Solona]

mrfinke wrote...

Wow I didn't realize it was possible to romance everyone and still stay with Fenris! I swear every time my Hawke so much as even flirted with Isabella it seemed to scare him off. X-/

I am also starting a new play through (#8) with a aggressive, rogue Hawke. I have never played as either before. I also think I'll rivalmance Fenris. I've only done that once. In fact, I think I'll rival everyone. That should be interesting. lol

And Obsydian- I agree. mhawke & fenris makes me giddy too for some reason.

Hmmm... that does sound interesting. I think I'll do that in my next playthrough!

[Tashash]

Ooooh, fresh blood....Uh, I mean, welcome Obsydian.


I have no idea how I did it, but it was AWESOME...

So due to the topic being brought up I did the 'Bitter Pill' before QB romance ("Command me to go and I shall") And thankfully it didn't break the romance, scarf and shield are in place.

So after the cutscene (Noooooo, don't go Fenris!) I go downstairs and my Mabari is standing at the bottom as he usually is, and I click on him out of habit.

I got the Fenris & Dog scene!!! I've never, in something like ten playthroughs, ever gotten it - And I though it wouldn't trigger if you'd already done the Fenris romance?...I don't care - YAY!!!!! MORE FENRIS!!!! 

[tankgirly]

quiet, no?

by super talented smailika07

[Obsydian]

thanks guys, and Hi Ursula! nice to see some familiar people here.....

wait. wait... Fenris and mabari? ....i think i'm missing something that i need to go back and find...

speaking of romancing him and others... i hve this issue with that. i just can't ... for some reason i can't actually see myself romancing anyone else in that game ever. even just for a fling.

[Nilfalasiel]

Obsydian wrote...

thanks guys, and Hi Ursula! nice to see some familiar people here.....

wait. wait... Fenris and mabari? ....i think i'm missing something that i need to go back and find...

speaking of romancing him and others... i hve this issue with that. i just can't ... for some reason i can't actually see myself romancing anyone else in that game ever. even just for a fling.

Yeah, most companions have short convos about your mabari:

- One with your sibling, where they say he's a cool dog.
- Two with Aveline. She asks if she can borrow him to train her guards and then updates you about it.
- One or two with Anders. First is the "be a real pet, ignore me until you need something, then sit on my head" convo. Second one if you romance him, where he tells the dog there's no room in the bed for him anymore.
- One with Merrill, where she tells a story about Fen'harel (there might be another one if you romance her as well, since she moves in too, but I wouldn't know). 
- One with Seb, where he goes on about how mabari are a mark of nobility in Ferelden.
- One with Varric, where he reveals that the dog plays diamondback...and is actually better at it than Anders.
- One with Fenris, where he says that it's a noble breed that originated in Tevinter. 

I haven't seen one with Izzie, or I don't remember it. It would make sense for there to be one with her as well though.

I bring a Danarius-related question, and again, sorry if it's been asked before, but it's one of those "I can't believe I didn't notice it before" things (I get those a lot). I noticed that he has...pointy ears. Not the proper elf kind, but very similar to Feynriel's.

So...would that mean that he's a half-elf too? *Mordin voice* "Implications unpleasant."

As for other romances, I think the only one I wouldn't feel guilty over is Izzie for fun, then move on to someone else. But even that I'm not tempted to try (mostly because I really don't like her...I'm even considering letting her run with the tome on my canon). Dumping any of the others would be pretty heartwrenching. I still remember having to dump Alistair on my first DAO playthrough (he'd somehow managed to ninjamance my Mahariel)...it felt like kicking several puppies. Not to mention you actually get approval points for letting him down easy.

And to end on a Fenris-related note, I find it ironic that you get all the major companion comments about the romance (well, except the exchange with Merrill about puppy eyes) during the 3-year break, when Hawke and him are presumably not together. I get that they're scripted and occur at the same time for all romances, but it just seems a little weird to have Aveline ask you about how you deal with the danger in your lives, or Varric warn you about crazy, when there's nothing concrete going on. My Fenmancing Hawke was like "well, y'know, I'd like to deal with the danger in our lives, but Grumpy over there needs to air his head first *grumble grumble*". I guess those particular convos fit Merrill and Anders better than Fenris or Izzie, timing-wise.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 22 octobre 2011 - 10:53 .

[Arcane_Solona]

Danarius has Feynriel-ish pointy ears??? I never noticed! *gets right onto youtube to watch "Alone"*

EDIT: MAKER! He does have slightly pointy ears!!!! I can't believe I never noticed that before!!! Maybe he is half elven! Wow, this is really interesting, and I bet it's going to spark up a good, healthy debate. We just love debates here, don't we?

Modifié par Arcane_Solona, 22 octobre 2011 - 11:37 .

[Tashash]

Arcane_Solona wrote...

Danarius has Feynriel-ish pointy ears??? I never noticed! *gets right onto youtube to watch "Alone"*

EDIT: MAKER! He does have slightly pointy ears!!!! I can't believe I never noticed that before!!! Maybe he is half elven! Wow, this is really interesting, and I bet it's going to spark up a good, healthy debate. We just love debates here, don't we?

Sweet Andraste's ****** you're right - it's even mentioned in the Wiki!

Wait a minute....Merrill says when you meet her that "All Ehlvehn once had the gift..." and Fenris mentions in the Gallows convo that the Tervinter nobility activley sought to introduce magic into their bloodlines...Does anyone else see a connection?

[Meeszy Alexy]

Tashash wrote...

Arcane_Solona wrote...

Danarius has Feynriel-ish pointy ears??? I never noticed! *gets right onto youtube to watch "Alone"*

EDIT: MAKER! He does have slightly pointy ears!!!! I can't believe I never noticed that before!!! Maybe he is half elven! Wow, this is really interesting, and I bet it's going to spark up a good, healthy debate. We just love debates here, don't we?

Sweet Andraste's ****** you're right - it's even mentioned in the Wiki!

Wait a minute....Merrill says when you meet her that "All Ehlvehn once had the gift..." and Fenris mentions in the Gallows convo that the Tervinter nobility activley sought to introduce magic into their bloodlines...Does anyone else see a connection?

Merrill's "All Elvhen once had the gift" thing could be Elven propaganda, but on the other hand, elves by default get stat bonuses in Magic and Willpower... hmm...

[Arquen]

 Gaahhh missed so much!

The Maker is punishing me for doing that "experiment." LOL Super busy day, didn't get a chance to get back to the forums after that. I reloaded my Fraps with Gwenya and Fenris and all was well and good in the world again. Freakin rivalmage....

Thank you all for your kind words, LOL. I'm glad my mini-guide amused you all.

To catch up on a few things...

1.) To everyone doing an aggro Hawke -- it IS awesome! -- I am torn between aggro and snarky being my favorite Hawke. I have 3 aggro Hawkes, 3 snarky Hawkes, and 2 diplo Hawkes. Only one rivalmance though on my aggro Hawke. which brings me to #2...

2.) Don't rival everyone, LOL. I did it on my rival mage. It was the most alone and verbally abused PT of my life. The ONE companion who held it all together was Fenris because he can give as good as he gets. I love his responses to aggro Hawke! He doesn't get offended, doesn't go off the rails. The worst one is if you choose the "slaves are useful" option for Orana and he spits at you. Also, when he comes back from Hadrianna and you go "you may not wear chains anymore, but your not free..." he yells "you know nothing of being a slave!" and is quite peeved. The other times he just trolls you right back, and I LOVE IT. Two malcontents indeed. 

rival Varric is a riot -- He is absolutely horrible to you. I felt so verbally abused. If it weren't for Fenris I honestly would have a hard time finishing that PT. I felt like everyone hated me and only followed me out of fear or because they didn't have another choice. All but Fenris.. at least he respected me .

3.) I uploaded my breakup dialogue... I had never found it on YouTube actually. Hadn't heard it before, just read it. I .. just.. I think I can visibly see his heart break. Dat Face! I took a breath and just clicked it before I could change my mind.

Warning: SADNESS -- FOR SCIENCE! -- "Leaving was the hardest thing I've ever done..." I believed him before, but after seeing that.. now I REALLY believe him. It isn't so much in the words, but the way he says them, and that look, Maker! that look...

4.) WELCOME Fresh blood! I mean... fellow Fenris fan! I mean Obsydian  -- you probably came at my worst moment. I never romance anyone other than Fenris -- 7 fenmances now... I have a problem. I already know this. 

[Tashash]

Arquen wrote...

Warning: SADNESS -- FOR SCIENCE! -- "Leaving was the hardest thing I've ever done..." I believed him before, but after seeing that.. now I REALLY believe him. It isn't so much in the words, but the way he says them, and that look, Maker! that look...

*Whimpers*

[Arquen]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

BPearl12 wrote...

I was playing Fenris' act 3 quest the other day and I noticed that compared to other humans Danarius has weird pointed ears. Could he be a half elf? It makes me wonder since they took the time to make his design unique if either some of his content was cut or if he will show up again in the future. Mages are tricky, he might not be quite as dead as we think.

I think a few things were cut regarding Fenris' quests (just a feeling, no real evidence) but I never felt that Danarius was ever that important in Fenris' character story. I always felt Fenris' story was about him trying to break free of his slave mentality, and depending on what you do with him, he can start taking steps towards this.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was meant to be more regarding Danarius, and him being half-elven would've been an interesting twist. But I'll go compare his ears with Feynriel's to see if such a theory could be possible. I should have a save before Alone and a save before Wayward Son or Night Terrors... failing that, I'll just screencap their ears on youtube.






Interesting, indeed...

Dug this up from about 5 months ago, LOL... relevant to discussion!

I agree there is definitely something "odd" about Danarius in more ways than one, LMAO.

I don't know why he has those pointed ears. Tevinter magisters usually are not elves since they treat elves rather poorly and elves are also their main source of slavery. It is possible he is half-elf, and I don't doubt it based on those looks, but it is just kind of one of those mysteries we will never know.

I honestly don't care enough about Danarius to warrant interest in the issue, LOL. I imagine the best case scenario is that he was a half-breed of some elven mage and human magister to try to produce a powerful mage child. He was more than likely born into the aristocracy, and I don't doubt the magisters of Tevinter do whatever necessary to keep magic in their bloodlines. If that includes "integrating" a few elven mages because they may have more affinity for magic, then I wouldn't doubt they do this or have done it in the past. Bleh.. magisters <_<

And NOW I have made all this sadness.. LOL... Plus that picture of Danarius, BLEH... forgive...

Have some Fenris puppy eyes. They make everything better! 


by MarikaCzajkowa on DA -- one of my favorites! 



Sorry for the sadness!! 

[DahliaLynn]

Was casually lurking through this thread and first thought that came to mind was....Danarius having these ears could suggest that maybe he is Fenris' father? i.e. Vader style? Of course this could be off the wall, but Mr. Gaider did mention a special connection a while back if I recall. Then again I could be completely wrong. (feel free to let me know how wrong I am )

Edit: I could really go out on a limb here and say, perhaps Danarius had bastard children with an Elf mother, so in order to hide it he turned him into his own slave child, instilled him with "Magic" lyrium and turned him into his personal public prize?

Once again, I'm writing in the "Fenris experts" thread, so I was just trying out a theory. You guys would know much more than I do here  

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 22 octobre 2011 - 02:39 .

[Nilfalasiel]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Was casually lurking through this thread and first thought that came to mind was....Danarius having these ears could suggest that maybe he is Fenris' father? i.e. Vader style? Of course this could be off the wall, but Mr. Gaider did mention a special connection a while back if I recall. Then again I could be completely wrong. (feel free to let me know how wrong I am )

Edit: I could really go out on a limb here and say, perhaps Danarius had bastard children with an Elf mother, so in order to hide it he turned him into his own slave child, instilled him with "Magic" lyrium and turned him into his personal public prize?

Once again, I'm writing in the "Fenris experts" thread, so I was just trying out a theory. You guys would know much more than I do here  

I don't think that's possible. Both Fenris and Varania look like full-blooded elves: long pointy ears, straight "greek statue" noses, large green elven eyes, thin slender-limbed bodies (even though Fenris is taller than the average male elf). If there was any human blood in the mix, chances are they'd have had some visual cues for it. I do, however, think that Fenris and Varania could have had different fathers, considering how different they look. 

Edit, after seeing the post below: And yes, considering the possibility of there being an "intimate" part to the relationship between Danarius and Fenris, it would just be off-the-charts disturbing.

Speaking of eye colour, is that also part of the elven appearance retcon? Because it does seem like the overwhelming majority of elves has green eyes now (with a rare occurrence of blue and Zevran's amber...in fact, I think he's the only DA2 elf to have that eye colour). I don't remember that from DAO. Both Merrill's and Marethari's eyes magically changed from blue to green, that's for sure.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:17 .

[Tealsie]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Was casually lurking through this thread and first thought that came to mind was....Danarius having these ears could suggest that maybe he is Fenris' father? i.e. Vader style? Of course this could be off the wall, but Mr. Gaider did mention a special connection a while back if I recall. Then again I could be completely wrong. (feel free to let me know how wrong I am )

Edit: I could really go out on a limb here and say, perhaps Danarius had bastard children with an Elf mother, so in order to hide it he turned him into his own slave child, instilled him with "Magic" lyrium and turned him into his personal public prize?

Once again, I'm writing in the "Fenris experts" thread, so I was just trying out a theory. You guys would know much more than I do here  

That would be a bit disturbing considering the whole "intimate"(or however it was worded) thing.  
...but Danarius is excessively creepy, so I wouldn't put it completely past him.

[UrsulaCousland]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Was casually lurking through this thread and first thought that came to mind was....Danarius having these ears could suggest that maybe he is Fenris' father? i.e. Vader style? Of course this could be off the wall, but Mr. Gaider did mention a special connection a while back if I recall. Then again I could be completely wrong. (feel free to let me know how wrong I am )

Edit: I could really go out on a limb here and say, perhaps Danarius had bastard children with an Elf mother, so in order to hide it he turned him into his own slave child, instilled him with "Magic" lyrium and turned him into his personal public prize?

Once again, I'm writing in the "Fenris experts" thread, so I was just trying out a theory. You guys would know much more than I do here  

[Mordin] Implications...unpleasant.[/Mordin]

Personal opinion?

I do think there's a non-zero chance that Tevinter would have experimented with Elves in the far past if they all once had magic. Maybe that's how Tevinter mages got the gift, specifically, for Dreaming? (Seems like the Daelish remember more about that than anyone else we've met.) Something else I somewhat assume about the Magisters and Tevinter in general is that if you're powerful enough (and depraved enough) you can get away with just about anything, including having an elf or two in the bloodlines.Power seems to be far more important than anything else in my impression. How someone might have gotten that power is not important (in Tevinter) - how they use it (and how they eliminate rivals with it) is.

That's how it seems to me, anyway.

Which brings me to Danarius. Yeah, those ears look a bit like Feynriel's. But, there's another factor. Can someone who's half-elven father full-elven children? Basically, how many generations would a half-elf have to reproduce with full-blooded elves (whose children then also reproduce with elves) to bring the offspring back to "near-full-blood-elf",at least genetically, i.e. enough for the fully pointed ears, facial structure and other (particularly invisible to the eye) traits?

I think it could theoretically be possible that Danarius is Fenris' father, but I think it's a stretch and I (personally) highly doubt it. Ugh. And given DG's other comments about Danarius and Fenris - I don't even want to go near that. *shudder*

For my own sanity, 'not' is head-canon unless proven otherwise. 

*Passes the debate baton*  Good lord I'm a nerd. 

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:17 .

[Annarl]

Obsydian wrote...

thanks guys, and Hi Ursula! nice to see some familiar people here.....

wait. wait... Fenris and mabari? ....i think i'm missing something that i need to go back and find...

speaking of romancing him and others... i hve this issue with that. i just can't ... for some reason i can't actually see myself romancing anyone else in that game ever. even just for a fling.

Once I have settled on him as the romance for my Hawke, none of my Hawkes' can romance anyone else.  Most don't even flirt with anyone else.  They are just too focused on Fenris.  But my Hawke who romanced Isabela would flirt with anyone  (although I found that romance lacking).  He was sort of like her.

Those ears I never noticed that before!   As for Danarius being half elf, it could be possible. Interesting observation.

Modifié par omearaee, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:23 .

[DahliaLynn]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Was casually lurking through this thread and first thought that came to mind was....Danarius having these ears could suggest that maybe he is Fenris' father? i.e. Vader style? Of course this could be off the wall, but Mr. Gaider did mention a special connection a while back if I recall. Then again I could be completely wrong. (feel free to let me know how wrong I am )

Edit: I could really go out on a limb here and say, perhaps Danarius had bastard children with an Elf mother, so in order to hide it he turned him into his own slave child, instilled him with "Magic" lyrium and turned him into his personal public prize?

Once again, I'm writing in the "Fenris experts" thread, so I was just trying out a theory. You guys would know much more than I do here  

I don't think that's possible. Both Fenris and Varania look like full-blooded elves: long pointy ears, straight "greek statue" noses, large green elven eyes, thin slender-limbed bodies (even though Fenris is taller than the average male elf). If there was any human blood in the mix, chances are they'd have had some visual cues for it. I do, however, think that Fenris and Varania could have had different fathers, considering how different they look. 

Speaking of eye colour, is that also part of the elven appearance retcon? Because it does seem like the overwhelming majority of elves has green eyes now (with a rare occurrence of blue). I don't remember that from DAO. There's also the fact that Merrill's eyes magically changed from blue to green.

My thinking was,  an Elf and a Human will produce a Human, what would an Elf and a Half Elf produce? I would think a certain percentage could realistically exhibit Elven dominance in physicality. 

Danarius (according to the ears) may have the Elf recessive trait, making it logical that his children could be both born as Elves. 

Edit: @Ursulacousland Fair enough. I haven't followed every comment DG made about their connection, so I tried throwing the idea out there after reading the most recent find...since it could make for an interesting twist. 

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:27 .

[XMissWooX]

Regarding the Fenris/Mabari convo:
The first time I romanced Fenris and he left, I popped out to sell some things at the market. Upon returning to the estate, I saw Fenris standing around. Excited, I rushed over to talk to him, expecting him to apologise to Hawke, take her in his arms and whisper sweet nothings... turned out he just popped in to have a chat with the Mabari

[Annarl]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Was casually lurking through this thread and first thought that came to mind was....Danarius having these ears could suggest that maybe he is Fenris' father? i.e. Vader style? Of course this could be off the wall, but Mr. Gaider did mention a special connection a while back if I recall. Then again I could be completely wrong. (feel free to let me know how wrong I am )

Edit: I could really go out on a limb here and say, perhaps Danarius had bastard children with an Elf mother, so in order to hide it he turned him into his own slave child, instilled him with "Magic" lyrium and turned him into his personal public prize?

Once again, I'm writing in the "Fenris experts" thread, so I was just trying out a theory. You guys would know much more than I do here  

I don't think that's possible. Both Fenris and Varania look like full-blooded elves: long pointy ears, straight "greek statue" noses, large green elven eyes, thin slender-limbed bodies (even though Fenris is taller than the average male elf). If there was any human blood in the mix, chances are they'd have had some visual cues for it. I do, however, think that Fenris and Varania could have had different fathers, considering how different they look. 

Speaking of eye colour, is that also part of the elven appearance retcon? Because it does seem like the overwhelming majority of elves has green eyes now (with a rare occurrence of blue). I don't remember that from DAO. There's also the fact that Merrill's eyes magically changed from blue to green.

My thinking was,  an Elf and a Human will produce a Human, what would an Elf and a Half Elf produce? I would think a certain percentage could well indeed be Elven dominance. 

Danarius (according to the ears) may have the Elf recessive trait, making it logical that his children could be both born with the recessive trait showing dominance. 

Edit: @Ursulacousland Fair enough. I haven't followed every comment DG made about their connection, so I tried throwing the idea out there since it could make for an interesting twist. 

 Didn't Gaider say that the human genes would always be dominant and that all off spring would be human.  Not sure though.

Modifié par omearaee, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:26 .

[UrsulaCousland]

Arquen wrote...

 Gaahhh missed so much!

The Maker is punishing me for doing that "experiment." LOL Super busy day, didn't get a chance to get back to the forums after that. I reloaded my Fraps with Gwenya and Fenris and all was well and good in the world again. Freakin rivalmage....

Thank you all for your kind words, LOL. I'm glad my mini-guide amused you all.

*snip*

2.) Don't rival everyone, LOL. I did it on my rival mage. It was the most alone and verbally abused PT of my life. The ONE companion who held it all together was Fenris because he can give as good as he gets. I love his responses to aggro Hawke! He doesn't get offended, doesn't go off the rails. The worst one is if you choose the "slaves are useful" option for Orana and he spits at you. Also, when he comes back from Hadrianna and you go "you may not wear chains anymore, but your not free..." he yells "you know nothing of being a slave!" and is quite peeved. The other times he just trolls you right back, and I LOVE IT. Two malcontents indeed. 

rival Varric is a riot -- He is absolutely horrible to you. I felt so verbally abused. If it weren't for Fenris I honestly would have a hard time finishing that PT. I felt like everyone hated me and only followed me out of fear or because they didn't have another choice. All but Fenris.. at least he respected me .

Oh yeah. I tried that once. I had to abandon the playthrough. I just couldn't take it anymore, even with Fenris still 'being' there.

Arquen wrote///

3.) I uploaded my breakup dialogue... I had never found it on YouTube actually. Hadn't heard it before, just read it. I .. just.. I think I can visibly see his heart break. Dat Face! I took a breath and just clicked it before I could change my mind.

Warning: SADNESS -- FOR SCIENCE! -- "Leaving was the hardest thing I've ever done..." I believed him before, but after seeing that.. now I REALLY believe him. It isn't so much in the words, but the way he says them, and that look, Maker! that look...

4.) WELCOME Fresh blood! I mean... fellow Fenris fan! I mean Obsydian  -- you probably came at my worst moment. I never romance anyone other than Fenris -- 7 fenmances now... I have a problem. I already know this. 

 *gets a tissue for its actual purpose*

I decided to share in the science - wow. I agree with the "visibly seeing his heart break" part. And the line delivery...

That's going to be with me for a while. I suddenly feel an urge to go write some Fenmance or progress Act II a bit on canon just to help a bit. 

ETA: About the elven blood thing: If TGP says all future offspring of a half-elf are human, that's good enough for me.  I just wandered into genetics territory because that's the kind of nerd I am.

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:32 .

[DahliaLynn]

omearaee wrote...

 Didn't Gaider say that the human genes would always be dominant and that all off spring would be human.  Not sure though.

What type would Danarius be with those ears? Obviously he is not 100% Human.  

Edit: @Ursulacousland AHH if he said all offspring of Half Elves are also 100% human, (even when mating with a 100% elf?) then I can't say much more. Theory officially thrown out the window 

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:35 .

[Harle Cerulean]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

Was casually lurking through this thread and first thought that came to mind was....Danarius having these ears could suggest that maybe he is Fenris' father? i.e. Vader style? Of course this could be off the wall, but Mr. Gaider did mention a special connection a while back if I recall. Then again I could be completely wrong. (feel free to let me know how wrong I am )

Edit: I could really go out on a limb here and say, perhaps Danarius had bastard children with an Elf mother, so in order to hide it he turned him into his own slave child, instilled him with "Magic" lyrium and turned him into his personal public prize?

Once again, I'm writing in the "Fenris experts" thread, so I was just trying out a theory. You guys would know much more than I do here  

I don't think that's possible. Both Fenris and Varania look like full-blooded elves: long pointy ears, straight "greek statue" noses, large green elven eyes, thin slender-limbed bodies (even though Fenris is taller than the average male elf). If there was any human blood in the mix, chances are they'd have had some visual cues for it. I do, however, think that Fenris and Varania could have had different fathers, considering how different they look. 

Speaking of eye colour, is that also part of the elven appearance retcon? Because it does seem like the overwhelming majority of elves has green eyes now (with a rare occurrence of blue). I don't remember that from DAO. There's also the fact that Merrill's eyes magically changed from blue to green.

My thinking was,  an Elf and a Human will produce a Human, what would an Elf and a Half Elf produce? I would think a certain percentage could realistically exhibit Elven dominance in physicality. 

Danarius (according to the ears) may have the Elf recessive trait, making it logical that his children could be both born as Elves. 

Edit: @Ursulacousland Fair enough. I haven't followed every comment DG made about their connection, so I tried throwing the idea out there after reading the most recent find...since it could make for an interesting twist. 

Gaider recently said "[...] though you might also want to include in that understanding the fact that this has much more to do with magic and almost nothing to do with genetics." in response to complaints about the genetic impossibility of the children of and elf and a human being for all intents and purposes human.

So basically, forget recessive and dominant.  It sounds to me like a half-elf (who is effectively human, aside from some vaguely elvish hints to their features) would likely have human children with an elf, since it's not genetics, it's ~magic~. 

[Nilfalasiel]

DahliaLynn wrote...

omearaee wrote...

 Didn't Gaider say that the human genes would always be dominant and that all off spring would be human.  Not sure though.

What type would Danarius be with those ears? Obviously he is not 100% Human.  

Same for Feynriel. He's got the ears, and his face looks subtly more delicate than a human's.

I do vaguely remember something from genetics class about there being a "shared" type (where dominant and recessive traits were equally shared), but for one, it was in French, so I have no idea of the terminology in English. And two, it was rare, and the example we had were flowers...

[Annarl]

DahliaLynn wrote...

omearaee wrote...

 Didn't Gaider say that the human genes would always be dominant and that all off spring would be human.  Not sure though.

What type would Danarius be with those ears? Obviously he is not 100% Human.  

I meant that all the offspring would look more human and not elf like. I think the question arose over Alistair and Fiona.  Because if she is his mother then why didn't he look like an elf and Gaider response was along the lines that the offspring would always look human.

Not sure about the whys, but its his world I guess.  Personally, I would like to see half-elves but not halving them is atypical and makes the DA world different then say D and D.

Modifié par omearaee, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:40 .

[UrsulaCousland]

DahliaLynn wrote...

omearaee wrote...

 Didn't Gaider say that the human genes would always be dominant and that all off spring would be human.  Not sure though.

What type would Danarius be with those ears? Obviously he is not 100% Human.  

Edit: @Ursulacousland AHH if he said all offspring of Half Elves are also 100% human, (even when mating with a 100% elf?) then I can't say much more. Theory officially thrown out the window 

For the record, 'if' he said it. I haven't seen that quote but it's entirely possible that if he did say that I missed it somewhere.

ETA: @Harle, just read your post. so I didn't see the 'magic' part before I posted this. Oh well, it's still a fun intellectual exercise! 

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 22 octobre 2011 - 03:39 .