Anarya wrote...
That's actually not my preferred body type for men but I still would like to see a Varric romance because he's just that awesome. Personality counts for a lot.
That is true. If I end up loving Varric's personality, then I could still dig it. I wanted a Garrus romance, after all, and that sure wasn't about wanting to nail a turian! *lol* It was just his personality and voice... he was such a great character that I wanted him and my character together, and there was the wonderful element of curiosity in place, much like Silk Fox in Jade Empire--although, she was beautiful and human, so it's not quite the same thing, but it was another case where I just loved a character so much that I wanted them to be with my heroine very badly. I wanted to connect with something outside of my usual experience, and it didn't need to be what I normally would choose.
I'm sure I could feel that way about Varric, too, if he ends up being as cool as he seems at first glance.
MarginalBeast wrote...
Russalka wrote...
Sometimes
I do wonder, and I hope this is not considered an argument-starter, how
many people here would still like Fenris, if his personality was so
horrible and/or annoying, that there is very little that redeems it.
I
can't speak for others, but I know I wouldn't like Fenris very much if I
didn't find his personality appealing. If his personality is bad
enough, he'll probably end up becoming less physically attractive to me
as well.
I don't think that will happen, but you never know. I
thought I'd love Thane before ME2 came out, but when it did, I
discovered that I didn't like him nearly as much as I expected to (but I
don't hate him or anything).
You can speak for me! As hot as Fenris is, a bad personality would ruin him for me. Hell, I loved Alistair and Zevran, but that doesn't mean there weren't things about them that I could criticize, and if they'd been worse in the ways that mattered to me I might've hated them. As it was, it took me a while to warm up to Zevran, even (Heh, his conversations with Wynne helped. Those were SO freaking hilarious) and there's one thing about Alistair that still makes me hopping mad when I think about it. But I did love them for who they were as characters. Alistair's romance got to me more, though, when it came down to it. His goofy romantic nature was so disarming for me. (Which made the fall all the harder, I guess.)
As to Thane... yeah. I was disappointed. Mostly due to the scant amount of content which made the general ways in which he seemed to copy Carth stand out all the more. (Dead beloved wife who was much more defined than Carth's; perfect memory which ensures he can never EVER forget dead beloved wife and might slip into those memories at any time when something reminds him of her; sidequest that revolves around re-establishing his relationship with his son, who currently thinks he's a dong who didn't care about his own child and is therefore about to make a big mistake.) I just ended up being shocked that the entire relationship revolved around those elements which felt so very Carth to me, after they'd already recast Raphael Sbarge as Kaidan. I've still never been able to understand their choices, and so I find it very hard to enjoy Thane, because I thought he would be a character that surprised me, and in the end all I really was pleasantly surprised by was his race and the fact that his romance was the only one that didn't make me feel like a pervert.
Don't get me wrong, I like being pervy, but that never interferes with my respect for a person's feelings or my sense of wisdom about what's a good idea and what isn't. I felt creepy hitting on Jacob and Garrus the way that you had to in order to start a thing, particularly in the case of Garrus where it was never about dirty turian lovin', just about how great I thought the character was.
As to Fenris, though... I'm expecting him to have a certain maturity level, to be stoic as was mentioned, to resist contact, to struggle with not knowing himself well beyond his need to fight and his determination to no longer be used as a tool. I can't imagine not liking someone with those characteristics, but then again, it does in part depend on how he speaks and acts.
If I didn't like him, then even that awesome appearance the artists achieved wouldn't do it for me, whereas if I do like him, he will become twice as appealing as he is now. Maybe more so. I'm not the type to fall for that Mystery bs--if a guy dressed like a douchebag comes up and starts trying to manipulate me, he's picked the wrong person. I've got zero daddy issues and I dig compliments from strangers, not insults.
I don't think guys who say "women like jerks" have met many women. Heh, that reminds me of one of my favorite articles ever:
The 6 Wrong Questions Men Love to Ask About Women. It's all generalization, of course, but they're questions I've heard a lot of guys ask in my 30 years of life, and questions which drive me nuts. There are guys who already know all six of those things, but there are at least as many who don't, in my experience.
Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
I didn't get dumped 'cause I was a mage.
I got dumped because I was a elf.
*joins the "I romanced Alistair as a non-Cousland" support group* It was my first playthrough. I was a Brosca dwarf who believed sparing Loghain was what Duncan would've wanted. Group hug?
Tamyn wrote...
I thought those features made him a fleshed-out character, but not one I'd want to romance. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png
He
was also very easy to ****** off, and multiple party members provoked him
with ease. I do not find prickly, incredibly
insecure, prideful hot-heads attractive. I think I would much prefer a
broody sort who didn't need my flattery.
Heh, me too. I romanced Anomen and liked it, but only because I saw through his bluster, and even then you had to really put up with a lot before you got to the good point. But even then he was so... Lawful Good. I don't like Lawful Good so much. I'm very very Neutral Good in real life, and I wanted to smack Keldorn upside the head for even having to debate with himself about that whole wife thing. So yeah, enjoyed Anomen... but he's not my ideal romance option for sure. The only PC for him is a very, VERY patient PC, and I'm not always that patient. I wish there'd actually been more ways to romance him; like the teasing you could do with Carth. Part of why I'm psyched about the rivalry romance idea.
Minxie18 wrote...
Annoying is subjective. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie] I loved Morrigan because
she had such an attitude about everything. The only time I got annoyed
was that she complained about doing all the Redcliff quests because it
was a goody-goody thing to do, and I didn't have the option to appeal to
her logic and explain how it was in our self-interest to do it.
I hated that too! In real life, I would've wanted to do that--appeal to her logic. That's one of my biggest pet peeves--I want to be able to try to be diplomatic the *smart* way. Why can't I be a practical good person instead of a brainless do-gooder? I wanted to show her there was more than one type of altruism. I like depth and flesh on my PCs. I hope DA2 will free the writers up to do more of that kinda thing.
I loved Morrigan, though. She was my Brosca's best friend. She was rough enough and canny enough to get Morrigan, and it really put tears in my eyes when she talked about friendship. I love that kind of dark-chocolate personality, where it's not so obvious who they really are deep down. I'm actually hoping Fenris will be a little bit that way, where it's hard to earn his trust.
Maria Caliban wrote...
It would be interesting if Fenris
wouldn't romance a mage. I don't think I've ever seen class influence a
romance in a BioWare game, only race.
I am taking a risk planning to play a mage... but I just think it would be tastier to romance him as one. I would be horribly sad and dismayed to be dumped, especially since I already got dumped in DAO on my first playthrough as well... but I love the conflict. Elf enslaved by human mages falls for a human mage... it's delicious.
I hope they didn't go the hard-shutdown route. I'd rather be made to work for it than be shut out in the cold altogether. And I dig the rivalry romance idea with a mage a lot.
bsbcaer wrote...
Not hating, but a serious question. I've
been wondering this since ElfQuest back in the day, but what is the
attractiveness (not just in DA, but in other fantasy realms) about
elves? I just never saw the attractiveness of elves, but would he be
getting the same amount of love if he were human or dwarf? As an aside,
yeah, Im on the Varric thread a lot, but see him more as a bro than
anything else...I just don't get the bro vibe from Fen (I guess stoicism
just doesnt appeal to me).
Maria's answer is very much to my tastes.
And me, I don't need a guy with big gobs of muscle and hair, all large and burly, the manliest fellow around. I already feel feminine enough that I don't need an exaggerated example of masculinity to remind me that I'm not a dude. I prefer a person who bathes with reasonable frequency and shows a certain amount of sensitivity, and the typical "muscle man" just doesn't inspire those expectations in me. I'm sure women who dig that type simply have other perceptions, and maybe they've known tender and sensitive big burly guys so they have different expectations, but that's just my frame of reference for first impressions.
It's also the ears.
Finally, stoicism is hot because a person who constantly controls their emotions is REALLY fun when you are finally able to make them lose control and surrender to their passions. Building up all that emotional and sexual tension tends to end in a rewarding payoff in stories like these.
Alternately, they are so stoic because they are cautious of being hurt, which shows wisdom and depth of character. So either way, stoicism can have its appeal; all the more so when you see cracks begin to appear in the facade of emotionlessness.
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He's gay optional?
Thank you. I very much agree. I honestly think Gaider was kidding.
