Arquen wrote...
As for Quentin -- that banter where he says "Ask Hawke about their mother..." Oh, boy.. this is one of those interpretation debates that goes in circles. If anything, Fenris did not mean it as some kind of malicious statement to oust Hawke. He wasn't really referencing how or why Hawke's mother died, but only that mages like Quentin are capable of "going too far."
That actually wasn't the moment I meant, although I do think it's a cheap shot, and I'm glad that at least when Meredith does it, I can call her out. I was referring to the post-Alone conversation between Hawke and Fenris if you say "You're still blaming magic for everything?"
On my list of "things I wish I could say in game":
***
For three years, Julian had been dreaming about this moment: Fenris's mouth on his again, the tingle of lyrium against his scalp as Fenris ran his fingers through his hair. It was perfect--better than perfect--but there was one thing that still had to be addressed. Reluctantly, he pulled away from the kiss.
"Fenris, you know I adore you. And you've possibly just made me the happiest man in Kirkwall, if not in all of Thedas."
Julian's dark eyes narrowed. "But if you
ever throw my mother in my face like that again, I'm going to introduce you to a little spell I like to call, "Sleeping on the Couch for the Next Month," are we clear?"
***
It's just a shame he never says as much, but to me that argument is kind of null and void. To go up to someone and say "you support mages being raped and abused?" and expecting them to go "yeah" is setting up a false dilemma. Fenris isn't going to support rape and abuse, and I don't think his actions terribly support the Circle or the Templars specifically, and they definitely don't support Alrik. Then again it is a fine line too. The argument often moves away from Fenris into "but it wasn't just Alrik..." etc. etc. Which has nothing to do with Fenris or his beliefs really.
I guess the way I see it is that there are various points when Anders actually says, "Maybe I was wrong, and I need to think about this some more." At least as far as I've found, Fenris never says that with regard to mages. The closest he comes is "Well, Hawke/Bethany is okay."
And that's okay. The whole point of the game is that there aren't any easy answers, and that neither extreme--Anders or Fenris--is entirely right, or entirely wrong. I like the fact that he's stubborn and that he and my Hawke don't agree on everything even though they're friends. I like the character
because he's awesome, and because there are times when I really want to smack him. Because he's real.
But blah.. I feel like I've argued this back and forth a million times, and I'm oh so very tired of wall-of-texting the same damn things. So, I'll kind of leave it at that. Although I have this inkling feeling I'm going to see the same counter-arguments I've seen a bajillion times too. <_< I just.. wall-o-texting.. is so draining, LOL.
We've possibly established that we're not going to agree on this, it's true.
Modifié par darkrose, 04 novembre 2011 - 08:52 .
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so i've missed all the fun that's gone on here.... 
And I don't read M!Hawke/Fenris (personal preference, nothing against it!) but I would make an exception for you and Rei working together. 
