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[CrookedAsylum]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Fenris: Alright, I'll talk, but on one condition: if I'm open with you, you'll be open with me. As I said before we're together in this ok?

Hawke: I wouldn't have it any other way.

(The pair sit down together and start to talk)

I would love it if for once, just once as the PC, you could actually unload with your troubles and not be the stoic hero all the damn time.

[Cutlasskiwi]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I can see a conversation along these lines happening.

Hawke: Hey, you alright? You've been pretty ouiet lately, moreso than usual.

Fenris: (muttering) I'm fine, nothing's wrong.

Hawke: Tell that you that pile of darkspawn that you cut down like cordwood today. Your usually only Fenris the Whirlwind of Death when your upset. You do know that you can talk to me right?

Fenris: (slightly annoyed) Of course I know that, don't worry about me, I have dealt with my problems thus far, and I can deal with them now.

Hawke: Would it help if I said  that your cute when your sitting around acting all broody?

Fenris: (sighs) You know your a very persistent woman my dear.

Hawke: Its apart of my charm. I know being the stoic, untouchable elf has kept you safe before, and its a part of who you are, but you have people who care about you now, especially me.

Fenris: Alright, I'll talk, but on one condition: if I'm open with you, you'll be open with me. As I said before we're together in this ok?

Hawke: I wouldn't have it any other way.

(The pair sit down together and start to talk)

Loved it! I hope Fenris is like that.


Fenris the Whirlwind of Death 

[n2nw]

ankuu wrote...
I just love Wynne.

Fixed.  She's just so adorably sweet.

And so far, I really like Fenris.  I think his background should make for a very interesting character.  Just please, don't make him an over-angsty, vindictive jerk.  I'm okay with revenge and I'm definitely okay with a bad boy, but PLEASE don't give me someone that's always crying on my shoulder or talking about revenge.

[Ceridwen]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I would love it if for once, just once as the PC, you could actually unload with your troubles and not be the stoic hero all the damn time.

I would love to be able to do that in DA2. I greatly disliked the conversation you can have with Alistair about Duncan, especially if you're a Cousland. You say, "My whole family was murdered just recently," and he acknowledges it with a couple guilty words before going on about how he'll build a monument for Duncan in Highever. I think Wynne was the only one who ever asked the PC about their time before the Grey Wardens or how they were doing, and even that was brief.

If Fenris––or any other companion, I am not picky––initiates a conversation concerning Hawke's well-being or something that could be bothering him/her... I will do cartwheels.

Modifié par kwintessa, 30 décembre 2010 - 08:41 .

[n2nw]

kwintessa wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I would love it if for once, just once as the PC, you could actually unload with your troubles and not be the stoic hero all the damn time.

I would love to be able to do that in DA2. I greatly disliked the conversation you can have with Alistair about Duncan, especially if you're a Cousland. You say, "My whole family was murdered just recently," and he acknowledges it with a couple guilty words before going on about how he'll build a monument for Duncan in Highever. I think Wynne was the only one who ever asked the PC about their time before the Grey Wardens or how they were doing, and even that was brief.

If Fenris––or any other companion, I am not picky––initiates a conversation concerning Hawke's well-being or something that could be bothering him/her... I will do cartwheels.

I have to agree with all of this.  And it's been that way in every game I've played.  Don't get me wrong...I like listening to their problems and helping them through.  But I want some love returned.

SPOILER FOR DA:
I would also like to be recognized when something horrible happens *when* or immediately after it happens.  For instance, in the noble origin after killing Howe, it would have been nice to have someone say something to me about how hard it must be or ask me if I was okay.  In any of the origins really, there are SEVERAL moments when it would be nice if that special someone chimed in on your feelings or asked about your background.

I was really ticked when playing the Alienage origin and after going back and choosing certain dialogue options, they seem almost callous about what happened at your wedding.  That was a prime moment for some sympathy love and some deep dialogue. 

I hope DA2 will finally be the game that gives us some PC TLC.

[Dave of Canada]

Dalish Origin had that, when whats-his-face showed up. Alistair asked me who that was, how I felt and stuff.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 30 décembre 2010 - 09:16 .

[n2nw]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Dalish Origin had that, when whats-his-face showed up. Alistair asked me who that was, how I felt and stuff.

Very briefly.  Then I believe he went on with something like "that's life in the blight..." or some such crap.  There wasn't any crying on anybody's shoulder, that's for sure.  He may as well have told me to put on my big girl panties and deal with it... which is probably what David Gaider will tell me about my whining about that conversation...

[CrookedAsylum]

There needs to be a group for this. An "I Support a PC with Emotions" group.

[SgtElias]

kwintessa wrote...

If Fenris––or any other companion, I am not picky––initiates a conversation concerning Hawke's well-being or something that could be bothering him/her... I will do cartwheels.

This, that would be fantastic. I realize that a company has finite resources, but some sort of interaction where the PC actually gets to be more than a shoulder to cry on would be wonderful. If anything, your player character is just as epically messed up as all the friends, vagabonds, and lovers you recruit during your game. I'd like to be able to express some of it, sometimes.

I think that the Bethany/Carver relationship may be an avenue for that. If anyone is going to ask you why you have such a broody look on your face, shouldn't it be your brother or sister?

[Dr. Doctor]

In the Bioware writing department, the player character's personality is slowly but surely getting better. Shepard in ME2 seemed to lack human emotion at first, but after witnessing the improved relationship between Liara and Shepard in Lair of The Shadow Broker Bioware's ability to write better player characters in leaps and bounds.

DA2 is sort of Bioware's second child in this respect, they put out ME2, got feedback on it, made adjustments to the characters in that game, and then applied those changes to DA2 (Friend/Rival path, intentions added to dialogue wheel, etc.)

As I see it, this game's taking place over ten years instead of a shorter period like DAO. In that time frame we hopefully will see relationships between characters (read: romances) grow and develop rather than just seeing them come into being over a short period of time like in DAO.

Plus Hawke's got a living family now! Let the awkwardness of having significant others at family gatherings commence!

(assuming fem!Arnell in this case)

Mamma Hawke: Well sweetheart it's good to have you home, out of danger for the holidays.

Hawke: Thanks mom, and thanks for letting my friends stay with us as well, especially Fenris (smiles and squeezes Fen's hand)

Mamma Hawke: No problem dear, by the way your cousin's going to be visiting as well.

Carver: (in awe) The one you ended the Bligt in Ferelden?  She wasn't taken back by the Circle?

Mamma Hawke: No, apparently she's free as a bird now, plus she has an elven friend too sweetheart.

Carver: (annoyed) Maker, what is it with women in this family and elves?

Hawke: (moves closer to Fenris) Well it doesn't help that they're incredibly adorable.

Fenris: (deadpan) I'm not adorable, last time I checked the dwarf had me pegged as "a living engine of destruction"

Hawke: Well that may be true, but it doesn't be you can't be a cute one.

Fenris: (Facepalm)

[Falandra]

One of the things I like the most in this thread are those made up conversations/dialogues... They either make me laugh or go all "awww"...

Modifié par Falandra, 30 décembre 2010 - 09:55 .

[Tamyn]

n2nw wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Dalish Origin had that, when whats-his-face showed up. Alistair asked me who that was, how I felt and stuff.

Very briefly.  Then I believe he went on with something like "that's life in the blight..." or some such crap.  There wasn't any crying on anybody's shoulder, that's for sure.  He may as well have told me to put on my big girl panties and deal with it... which is probably what David Gaider will tell me about my whining about that conversation...

Yet Alistair expects the PC to put up with all his crying about Duncan over and over.

[Cutlasskiwi]

@Dr. Doctor - I love your little dialogues and I demand you keep them coming.  

[HolyJellyfish]

Hawke: "... Why are you blushing?"

Fenris: "I do not blush. I pale."

Hawke: "Why are you paling pinkishly?"

Fenris: "... Why do you persist on asking redundant questions?"

Hawke: "Because you persist on pretending to have no emotions."

Fenris: "Does frustration count?"



mmmmm. love.

[Dr. Doctor]

The issue that I had with Alistair was this: he was well written, but I couldn't stand him personally. To me he falls under lawful good and it might just be my tendency to prefer more neutral-aligned characters, but Alistair's constant over-optimistic personality and black and white view of the world didn't really interest me.

Now Fenris, strikes me as being true neutral at first. He's been on the run for a while and probably just wants to just be left alone.
Later on however (assuming you befrend him) I can see him being more focused on looking out for his new rag-tag band of friends rather than worrying about what side he's on.

 Fenris to me seems like the kind of person who distrusts laws and groups like those in Tevinter and the regulations of the Chantry, those rules didn't do anything to keep him from being tortured, so why should he follow them?

He strikes me as being very self-centered at first, he's been concerned about his own survival for so long that the affairs of other people don't matter much to him at first. Later on though he might become more protective of his impromptu family (depending on friend / rival status)

Think this:
Random Baddie: And now dear champion, prepare to die!

Friend!Fenris:  (angry) If you want her your going to have to go through me.

Rival!Fenris: (angry) I'm sorry my friend but if you want to kill her your going to have to wait in line. The queue forms behind me.

Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 30 décembre 2010 - 10:56 .

[shellys639]

I came across about 6 1 chapter fanfiction for hawke and fenris that were really good. I wish that they were longer.They got the imagination flowing.I think there taking notes from david,always leave them wanting more.

[HolyJellyfish]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

The issue that I had with Alistair was this: he was well written, but I couldn't stand him personally. To me he falls under lawful good and it might just be my tendency to prefer more neutral-aligned characters, but Alistair's constant over-optimistic personality and black and white view of the world didn't really interest me.

Now Fenris, strikes me as being true neutral at first. He's been on the run for a while and probably just wants to just be left alone.
Later on however (assuming you befrend him) I can see him being more focused on looking out for his new rag-tag band of friends rather than worrying about what side he's on.

 Fenris to me seems like the kind of person who distrusts laws and groups like those in Tevinter and the regulations of the Chantry, those rules didn't do anything to keep him from being tortured, so why should he follow them?

He strikes me as being very self-centered at first, he's been concerned about his own survival for so long that the affairs of other people don't matter much to him at first. Later on though he might become more protective of his impromptu family (depending on friend / rival status)

Think this:
Random Baddie: And now dear champion, prepare to die!

Friend!Fenris:  (angry) If you want her your going to have to go through me.

Rival!Fenris: (angry) I'm sorry my friend but if you want to kill her your going to have to wait in line. The queue forms behind me.

I do hope Fenris is Rival!Romance. I would dig it like no other. Angry, stoic, exciting romance.

Hawke: Hooknose
Fenris: Nose smear
Hawke: Premature whitening
Fenris: At least I am capable of maturity
Hawke: How dare you judge me!
Fenris: Perhaps if you weren't so openly available to BE judged
Hawke: I am slighted ser! You are grossly incapable of manners befit of a gentlemen, and greatly embaressed me before public! What have you to say!?
Fenris: Marry me?
Hawke: Unlikely! You are the last man on Earth I shall ever marry!

And then they proceed to have an understanding, followed by a massive mansion and a year of sexual tension culminating in a kiss-

Oh wait. That was Pride & Prejudice. Ho hum.

[tankgirly]

shellys639 wrote...

I came across about 6 1 chapter fanfiction for hawke and fenris that were really good. I wish that they were longer.They got the imagination flowing.I think there taking notes from david,always leave them wanting more.

Already? Wow, they are certainly fast!

Linky?

[Minxie]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

The issue that I had with Alistair was this: he was well written, but I couldn't stand him personally. To me he falls under lawful good and it might just be my tendency to prefer more neutral-aligned characters, but Alistair's constant over-optimistic personality and black and white view of the world didn't really interest me.

Now Fenris, strikes me as being true neutral at first. He's been on the run for a while and probably just wants to just be left alone.
Later on however (assuming you befrend him) I can see him being more focused on looking out for his new rag-tag band of friends rather than worrying about what side he's on.

 Fenris to me seems like the kind of person who distrusts laws and groups like those in Tevinter and the regulations of the Chantry, those rules didn't do anything to keep him from being tortured, so why should he follow them?

He strikes me as being very self-centered at first, he's been concerned about his own survival for so long that the affairs of other people don't matter much to him at first. Later on though he might become more protective of his impromptu family (depending on friend / rival status)

Think this:
Random Baddie: And now dear champion, prepare to die!

Friend!Fenris:  (angry) If you want her your going to have to go through me.

Rival!Fenris: (angry) I'm sorry my friend but if you want to kill her your going to have to wait in line. The queue forms behind me.

I do hope Fenris is Rival!Romance. I would dig it like no other. Angry, stoic, exciting romance.

Hawke: Hooknose
Fenris: Nose smear
Hawke: Premature whitening
Fenris: At least I am capable of maturity
Hawke: How dare you judge me!
Fenris: Perhaps if you weren't so openly available to BE judged
Hawke: I am slighted ser! You are grossly incapable of manners befit of a gentlemen, and greatly embaressed me before public! What have you to say!?
Fenris: Marry me?
Hawke: Unlikely! You are the last man on Earth I shall ever marry!

And then they proceed to have an understanding, followed by a massive mansion and a year of sexual tension culminating in a kiss-

Oh wait. That was Pride & Prejudice. Ho hum.

Pride & Prejudice for the win!
www.youtube.com/watch

And yes please to a rivalry romance. I don't even care if it's with Fenris or not. I just want one.

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

tankgirly wrote...

shellys639 wrote...

I came across about 6 1 chapter fanfiction for hawke and fenris that were really good. I wish that they were longer.They got the imagination flowing.I think there taking notes from david,always leave them wanting more.

Already? Wow, they are certainly fast!

Linky?

Yes! Linky? Please? Perty please? 

[shellys639]

fanfiction.net look under hawke

[shellys639]

I wish they were longer though

[tankgirly]

@shellys639

*off digging on FFN*

[offtopic]

Bishop fans, have you heard of a mod call 'Dark Soul'? It is now avaliable in Engish!
Working with the other mod we mentioned way back in the MEG thread, you can now pulled him out of the wall in MotB and have a decent ending.

Dark Soul

[/offtopic]

Now back to Fenris

Modifié par tankgirly, 30 décembre 2010 - 11:39 .

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

tankgirly wrote...

@shellys639

*off digging on FFN*

[offtopic]

Bishop fans, have you heard of a mod call 'Dark Soul'? It is now avaliable in Engish!
Working with the other mod we mentioned way back in the MEG thread, you can now pulled him out of the wall in MotB and have a decent ending.

Dark Soul

[/offtopic]

Now back to Fenris

Yup. I saw it.

Haven't gotten it yet though. I'm happy with my *sane-ish* MotB party.

[Biometry]

tankgirly wrote...
[offtopic]

Bishop fans, have you heard of a mod call 'Dark Soul'? It is now avaliable in Engish!
Working with the other mod we mentioned way back in the MEG thread, you can now pulled him out of the wall in MotB and have a decent ending.

Dark Soul

[/offtopic]

First you informed me of the Valen fix, now this. Thank you, tankgirly ;A;
/offtopic


As for the fics, I only found one about Fenris.