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AbsoluteApril wrote...

Fenris' faults are a big part of why I Posted Image  him so much (besides the fact that he is ridiculously good looking). I could give a flying fig what anyone thinks of my fangasms and I will proudly label myself 'fangirl'. Maybe my tshirt should say "Fenris Fangirl" above his lovely smirky smile. (actually kind of like that idea now that I said it...)

Mage!Hawke works to show Fenris that not all mages are bad, that some can even be trusted; works to break down his bias and hatred of mages which has built up for so long after the abuse and torment of being a slave of a magister; I think that is my favorite aspect. Any!Hawke showing him friendship (and love if a romance) which he has probably never known at that level*. Romance!Hawke standing by him through his personal struggles and inner confliting emotions, standing by him even as he walks away and tries to push Hawke out of his life.

Fenris has a very 'real' personality, the way he was written is brilliant. The voice acting is superb. I also enjoy how he reacts, not always as expected, how Fenris gets caught off guard by a compliment or how he goes off on a tirade only to reel himself back in and apologize. Peel back those layers and see the depth of his character, not just some 'emo whiner who hates mages'.

My fanart is F!HawkexFenris simply because I'm a girl and roll female hawke/warden/shepard about 75% of the time. I also don't dislike Izy, I just get jealous easy (one of my faults).

bah, I'm rambling now and this is turning into a wall of text saying points others have already made, I'll stop now.

*this is part of the reason why I Posted Image Alistair as well

PS - what's tumblr?
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This is tumblr... https://www.tumblr.com/  
edit for T.O.P

Dragon Age2- Fenris and Eden by scarlet-xx

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#47077
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Here we go, Fenris and apples:


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omearaee wrote...
This is tumblr... https://www.tumblr.com/  


yeah, I was just being snarky hense the smiley devil face
dang interwebs, hard to convey snarky-ness online

@Rei - that is awesome!

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AbsoluteApril wrote...

Fenris' faults are a big part of why I ../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png 
him so much (besides the fact that he is ridiculously good looking). I
could give a flying fig what anyone thinks of my fangasms and
I will proudly label myself 'fangirl'. Maybe my tshirt should say
"Fenris Fangirl" above his lovely smirky smile. (actually kind of like
that idea now that I said it...)

Mage!Hawke works to show Fenris
that not all mages are bad, that some can even be trusted; works to
break down his bias and hatred of mages which has built up for so long
after the abuse and torment of being a slave of a magister; I think that
is my favorite aspect. Any!Hawke showing him friendship (and love if a
romance) which he has probably never known at that level*. Romance!Hawke
standing by him through his personal struggles and inner confliting
emotions, standing by him even as he walks away and tries to push Hawke
out of his life.

Fenris has a very 'real' personality, the way he
was written is brilliant. The voice acting is superb. I also enjoy how
he reacts, not always as expected, how Fenris gets caught off guard by a
compliment or how he goes off on a tirade only to reel himself back in
and apologize. Peel back those layers and see the depth of his
character, not just some 'emo whiner who hates mages'.

My fanart
is F!HawkexFenris simply because I'm a girl and roll female
hawke/warden/shepard about 75% of the time. I also don't dislike Izy, I
just get jealous easy (one of my faults).

bah, I'm rambling now and this is turning into a wall of text saying points others have already made, I'll stop now.

*this is part of the reason why I ../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png Alistair as well

PS - what's tumblr?
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Me too!!!
G'night all! Have a Fenris! He's a little pony!!!
by ~xX-Tabataba-Xx

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Modifié par Cosmochyck, 10 novembre 2011 - 02:54 .


#47080
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Hahaha, Rei, that's adorable!

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ReiSilver wrote...

Here we go, Fenris and apples:


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This is just the cutest thing!!!!!

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DahliaLynn wrote...

I tried to filter the audio a bit to make it clearer. Hopefully with all the vids out there, this may fill in some missing pieces. 

youtu.be/2dRlVzMdcos


thanks for posting it up!
dang, still can't quite make out exactly what he is saying in response, so close...

edit to add - okay I emailed Mr Emery about it, maybe he'll reply and shed some light for us

Modifié par AbsoluteApril, 10 novembre 2011 - 03:43 .


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Arcane_Solona wrote...

Tryynity wrote...

@ Ursula - Me too - I wrote my first very tame Zevran thing a few weeks ago. Its hard because you dont want it to sound awkward and finding/using words that you feel comfortable can be a challenge. I read piles of smut ranging all the way to straight up porn to find the language Im comfortable with. The second part is expressing what is going on in your head - its scary letting ppl inside your head ... especially on those topics. LOL

Do it anon for awhile until you feel comfortable - I liken it to putting a bag on your head and taking off your clothes in public for the first time. It is easier to express everything you want to if you are not concerned with what ppl think.

I think we all have been corrupted by this Dragon Age thing LOL


I think that's what freaks me out the most. Being a prude, the very thought of writing smut and having people read it, knowing that I was visualising all of that in my head is a scary thing! It makes me feel... I don't know... dirty? Lol. You can so tell I'm a prude, can't you?

@Ursula I'm glad I'm not alone! It is a bit like stagefright, isn't it? That's a nice way of putting it.  And no, it wouldn't be out of line to call yourself a smut-writing-virgin, because that's just the word I was looking for to describe my predicament!



From one prude to another .... lol

This is why I enjoy being anon for now :D 

Im not ready for ppl to see the face behind the mask... yet.

It is a good exercise and I encourage it -  writing it.  Although Zevran would say the RL life version is better exercise 

(sssh Zev not ur thread - "Yes I know but Im not sure about this Fenris guy - he leaves a perfectly good person for 3 years.... 3 years... nothing ?!?! and... well I feel sick talking about it." - ok good then sssh)

Posted Image I apologise for that moment of randomness - it happens now and then

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*Claws her way back into the Fenris thread* Finally! I AM FREE!

thats1evildude wrote...

Felicia Day has an amusing Fenris-centric comment here, but you have to have annotations enabled.

LOL! See, even Tallis is a Fen-Fan Posted Image.


@Arquen - As always, well put! If we ever need an official spokesperson my vote goes to you!

SSP!! (Shameless Self Prmotion)  http://www.fanfictio...e_Water_Gave_Us
Plz read? *Puppy Eyes* Posted Image

@Arcane - Woot! More chapters, keep 'em coming! Posted Image

@Rei - D'awwwwwwww!! I love it. Posted Image


Edit: *Grumblesnarlcomputers* Link should be fixed now.

Modifié par Tashash, 10 novembre 2011 - 05:12 .


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@Arquen- Finally had time to sit down and read In Victory, Wine and I LOVE it!!! I love the way Gweyna delights in teasing Fenris! And things did get pretty steamy in there, eh? You are very good at writing smut ;) And classy smut at that!

The end made me go all warm and fuzzy on the inside "I love you, Fenris..."

Gahhh, brain twin! I Love it! I absolutely love it!

Modifié par Arcane_Solona, 10 novembre 2011 - 05:35 .


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In the video posted by Dahlialynn, Gideon says Fenris and Balthier are his favourites out of all the game characters he voiced! Even Gideon is a Fen-fan!

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Bought Mass Effect 2 today in hopes it would reel me in more then Mass Effect one has so far. Can already tell from the cover that Fenris isn't in it. Such a travesty. Given that my fave characters are Fenris and Zevran in the DA universe any romance suggestions for similar character types?

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@Solana - squuueeee! (just caught up with the new chapters). Love it!

@Fleshy - I know I see a lot of Thane in Fen thread sigs, but my favorite LI for FemShep is Garrus. Let me see... If you want darker tortured soul, I'd suggest Thane. If you go for Friendmancing and perhaps want the angst toned down Just a little - Garrus. Definitely. (It also doesn't hurt that Garrus is an incurable smartass and a BAMF to boot. His VA is amazing too.)

*tries not to go into full on Garrus fangirling in the Fenris thread*

Night FenFans! (I'd post a pic but ... Stupid phone posts.)

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All the answers I have seen are varying but; without a mod are same-sex romances possible? Is this another way DA is superior. *snob!sniff* Okay okay, I'll try to get over my love of Zevran/Fenris and Dragon age in general and give Mass Effect a chance.

Edit: For confusing gibberish! Geez! I swear it made sense in my head earlier.

Modifié par Fleshdress, 10 novembre 2011 - 09:25 .


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Confession time: I've never played Mass Effect... *shifty eyes*... I keep hearing all about it, and my boyfriend keeps telling me I *need* to play it. He's played all the bioware games.

I played Neverwinter Nights, but not Neverwinter Nights 2... Really Dragon Age 2 was kind of the game that solidified this insane fangirling thing I've got going now. Figured I was too old to fangirl, but I guess I was wrong.

I always hear either Garrus or Thane as well.. if your going for characters like Fenris. However, none of them are actually very much like Fenris, just some similarities. One day I'll try Mass Effect... one day...

@Solona -- <3 you for reading and commenting on my little fic, LOL. I'm not a fan of terribly explicit and graphical sex stuff, and even coffee, black gets me sometimes with its explicitness.

Alright.. have to go to work tomorrow and have so many things I want/need to do! Plus this weekend I'm going to be out of town for my b-day *happydance*

Also, Rei --- I adore that pic! Apples... hmm... new head!canon involving Fenris and apples....

Hawke: Fenris, I brought you some food...

Fenris: Not that mutton from the Hanged Man again?

Hawke: No... it's less.. crawly.. this time.

Fenris: Hmph. I'm not sure I appreciate you bringing me meals you describe as "crawly," Hawke.

Hawke: Maker, I'm sorrry! Geez, you screw up one time... Not my fault I can only cook Ferelden stew, and badly at that.

Fenris: So, you brought me Ferelden stew then?

Hawke: I don't think we are at that stage where I should inflict my Ferelden stew on you, Fenris. I brought you apples. Safe, fresh, and non-crawly apples! *holds out the basket she has been hiding behind her back.*

Fenris: Apples? That's.. unexpected.

Hawke: At least it isn't fish! Besides, you said you liked apples, and I.. well... I was trying to be nice. My other gifts didn't go over very well, though. I don't expect this one will either, hmm?

Fenris: *takes an apple from the basket* I like apples, Hawke, and I do appreciate your gifts. In fact, I have one of my own for you.

Hawke: What? Really? *sets the basket down on the small table*

Fenris: I've been keeping an extra bottle of Tevinter wine, and well... *he holds the bottle out to her*

Hawke: *opens the cork carefully* Thank you, Fenris. This is.. thank you. *takes a sip*

Fenris: *takes a bite of his apple* Just remember, Hawke, all Tevinter wine is made from the blood and tears of slaves. *smirk*

Hawke: *spits the wine* Fenris, that's not funny!

Fenris: *does a slight shrug of his shoulders as he takes another bite of his apple*

Hawke: Hmph... well apples from Darktown can be just as crawly as mutton from the Hanged Man.

Fenris: *stops mid-chew and stares at his apple* That's not funny, Hawke.

Alright.. off to work on fic.. *skips away* You guys made me blush with your comments. <3

#47091
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AbsoluteApril wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

I tried to filter the audio a bit to make it clearer. Hopefully with all the vids out there, this may fill in some missing pieces. 

youtu.be/2dRlVzMdcos


thanks for posting it up!
dang, still can't quite make out exactly what he is saying in response, so close...

edit to add - okay I emailed Mr Emery about it, maybe he'll reply and shed some light for us


You're most welcome! I took those videos mostly for myself, never thought I would upload :) 

Are you talking about that bit where he says walking away for peace and quiet? 

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Just have to say I have been watching those videos, and I love Gideon, he is super. But, Adam is just the happiest, smiley, good humour guy in the entire world. God, I want to snuggle him and make him go away from Gideon all at once. Another reason I am glad I wasn't there.

Me: Serah Howden (Ye, thats how I would say it)
AH: Yes? *grin chuckle smirk*
Me: Can you please step off stage and let me see if Mr. Emery just looks unhappy in comparison to your cheeriness?... *people boo I get kicked out*

Plus Adam is a quick as a whip, he sees touchy subjects and laughs them off where Gideon wants to honestly answer them and he sort of tries to navigate a mine field with varying degrees of success like the "what romance gender do you like better?", loaded question please step away from the mike, Adam jokes, Gideon pokes the angry gay bear, with a ten foot pole but still.  Still I think you're the awesomest Emery! If you and Adam here hanging on the edge of a cliff I would... probably make you talk in character back and forth till you both fell, cause I'm awful.

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@Fleshdress I don't know if anyone caught it on video, but in the panel, Gideon did make a joke about how people seem to think he is constantly down when in fact, he really isn't. It was quite funny.

Something about a guy approaching him in the restroom...consoling him "don't worry mate, you'll find the right one" putting his hand on his back.

Gid: "Hey, no, it's alright"
Guy: "no really mate, don't worry, you'll be alright"
Gid: "Hey, no I'm really fine!"

Etc...made me chuckle :D He does have a default straight face kind of look

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He really does and I can't make out what they're saying but it's obvious that people in the crowd are commenting or shyly joking and Adam gives them a chuckle and I don't know if Gideon can't hear them but default straight face does not ever let the man down. Posted Image

Edit: Or maybe the commenters are just not funny. Were they Funny Dahl?

Modifié par Fleshdress, 10 novembre 2011 - 10:09 .


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Which is why I always say that Gideon reminds me so much of Fenris and Adam reminds me so much of Anders. Adam is all bubbly and happy and just downright ADORABLE, whereas Gideon's all straight-faced and serious with an incredible sense of humour hidden behind all that "seriousness". You guys do know that Gid's an award-winning stand up comedian, right? He's as hilarious as hell!

However, I too noticed how Adam laughingly brushed away the question about gay/straight romance in the game, whereas Gideon actually tried his best to answer it honestly without offending anyone (he tried REALLY hard). It's funny because I'm like that too, for some reason. As much as I'd love to brush a question away with a joke or something, I always end up trying to answer it seriously, no matter how controversial it may be.

Ahhh Gideon, Gideon. I'm in love with you, you sexy beast, you.

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@Ursula- You are the sweetest thing for continuing to read it! I keep updating it, but I'm just not posting the updates here anymore because I feel uncomfortable about self-promotion. Plus, I don't wanna annoy anyone by constantly posting links to new chapters.

@Arquen- You're most welcome, brain twin! Yeah, Coffee, Black really got to me sometimes too. I'd be reading the smut and be feeling so uncomfortable at the same time. But I force myself to be cool about it, though that's hard when you're such a prude as I am. And you're not alone: I've never played Mass Effect either, though I hear its even better than Dragon Age (which is very difficult for me to believe) so I think I'll be getting it soon. Maybe when I finish my final semester of law school everrrr next month as a graduation gift to myself.

Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY IN ADVANCE, Arquen!!! When's you're special day exactly?

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@fleshdress
Yep, some of the comments were funny ;) For the most part I think he took the panel more seriously, -from a more experienced/mature perspective. Adam was more like "I love all this attention! gimme the mic!"

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Tryynity wrote...

Arcane_Solona wrote...

Tryynity wrote...

@ Ursula - Me too - I wrote my first very tame Zevran thing a few weeks ago. Its hard because you dont want it to sound awkward and finding/using words that you feel comfortable can be a challenge. I read piles of smut ranging all the way to straight up porn to find the language Im comfortable with. The second part is expressing what is going on in your head - its scary letting ppl inside your head ... especially on those topics. LOL

Do it anon for awhile until you feel comfortable - I liken it to putting a bag on your head and taking off your clothes in public for the first time. It is easier to express everything you want to if you are not concerned with what ppl think.

I think we all have been corrupted by this Dragon Age thing LOL


I think that's what freaks me out the most. Being a prude, the very thought of writing smut and having people read it, knowing that I was visualising all of that in my head is a scary thing! It makes me feel... I don't know... dirty? Lol. You can so tell I'm a prude, can't you?

@Ursula I'm glad I'm not alone! It is a bit like stagefright, isn't it? That's a nice way of putting it.  And no, it wouldn't be out of line to call yourself a smut-writing-virgin, because that's just the word I was looking for to describe my predicament!



From one prude to another .... lol

This is why I enjoy being anon for now :D 

Im not ready for ppl to see the face behind the mask... yet.

It is a good exercise and I encourage it -  writing it.  Although Zevran would say the RL life version is better exercise 

(sssh Zev not ur thread - "Yes I know but Im not sure about this Fenris guy - he leaves a perfectly good person for 3 years.... 3 years... nothing ?!?! and... well I feel sick talking about it." - ok good then sssh)

Posted Image I apologise for that moment of randomness - it happens now and then


Oh, that is so recognizable! I'm having the same problem as well. The writing went pretty well, I think, and I got them to kissing... and now I dón't know how to proceed from there on. XD It's hard enough to write an "intimate" scene, but I have chosen a male Hawke too... gah, I think I would've managed better if Hawke was at least female. Then I can come up with something they could do, but two guys... lol, well, I know the obvious things, but... just... no... And I'm not going to google for inspiration. Posted Image I know that will give me some images I rather forget. I know I could read other fics about this for ideas, but I don't want to steal other people's work. I'm a university student, and plagiarism is crime number one.Posted Image
Point is, I'm a bit stuck for now, haha. My boyfriend says I should skip that whole scene and proceed after the "deed", but.. well, that doesn't really work either, because you have the whole memories-coming-back thing and that works best when you can write about it in the moment itself...
Oh well, glad I'm not alone.

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 Allow me to be of some assistance since I actually went through this myself a bit. Coincidentally, the hardest things for me to write are realistic kisses. You don't want the "tongues fighting for dominance" thing or the "devouring, ravaging, slathering" thing, but you don't want "kiss," and be done with it either.

It is just.. so hard to find a happy medium! Writing a love scene is like stepping through a mine-field. Literally ONE screw up, mistype, awkward wording and it is the difference between "licked lamppost" and "tender caressing shivers." LOL.

I read this : tips for writing love scene 

For M/M I go to the kink!meme, and while you don't have to *steal* ideas per say, reading some of those can definitely give you an idea of what you like to read and see vs what you do not. Also, language, and actions, and descriptions. Helpful things to pick up on. Knowing what works and what doesn't.

I'm such a prude as well, and when things get too graphic/explicit I kind of get squicked a little. Though, that's me. I aslo have never read romance novels or smutty stuff ever before dragon age kink_meme. Sooo.. kind of new territory completely. I was like MAKER! the first time I read a couple, LOL. I got over it though, but I still can't read mindless pr0n.

And umm... to keep this thread back on topic of FENRIS here *ahem*

Have a screenie and NOT by me:
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by colourlesscolours on tumblr

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Lol brain twin, why am I not surprised that you're a prude as well? I never read smut before reading DA:O fanfic in early 2010, and that was just one story. The next time I ever read smut was in Coffee, Black more than a year and a half later. And I still feel all uncomfortable when I do. Maker, I really have no idea how I'm going to pull off smut in my own fic, and I definitely have to do it, seeing as the story won't be complete without some hot lovin' between my Marian and Fenris.

But that's for Act II. I can relax for now and maybe only worry about a sweet kiss. Lol.

Woops! I took us right back off-topic! My apologies!

*tries to delve back into Fenris territory* Ahhh, those eyes. And those LIPS, Maker! So unbelievably plump and kissable!!