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[Arcane_Solona]

Hmmm.... I'm worried about this. If you aren't enjoying Skyrim, Arquen, then chances are I won't either, which kinda sucks because I've already placed an order for it, lol.

But, as you said, it's worth giving it a try and seeing for myself what all the hype is about.

About Fenris and DA2 in general, I agree with everything you said, Arquen (naturally) and would just like to add that, once someone has been introduced to a character as amazing as Fenris is, it really is hard to admire other characters just as much because he just set the bar reealllyy high. Like, unbelievably high. I've seen my fair share of heroes, villains, and goofy, funny, loveable characters, but I've never seen a Fenris before. He's just so unique and... so darn real and full of personality. I'm not a hero fan at all either. Never have been, never will be. This quest for glory and saving people's lives 'just because' is so not my cup of tea. I actually hate the term "Champion" in DA2. It's just soo...bah. Typical hero stuff. I want to see characters that are clearly troubled and struggling overcome those hurdles and succeed in their personal journey, whatever that may be.

And I have noticed that this thread has considerably slowed down these past couple of days. Darn you, Skyrim! You've taken my forumites away!!

[Fylimar]

Although I like Fenris very much - especially as a MageHawke, I would have liked some more comments on some obvious events - like Merrils last mirror quest, where you have to defeat Marethari. Fenris didn't barely say a word and I had hoped for some comments (at least a 'I told you so' after harrassing Merril the whole game about her blood magic).
Plus I found it incredible hard to get him anywhere - I wanted to try his romance, but I didn't get either rivalry or friendship high enough. With the rival playthrough, I got the romance started in act 2, but then he somehow gained friendship points again (and I take him on every mage quest and let nearly all mages go) and now I probably have to kill him in the end, when he sides with the templars against me. The friendship playthrough (with a mage, too) was easier. I didn't get him high enough in act 2 for a romance to start, but I had him at 100 % at the end of act three and he sided with me against Meredith - that was a great scene.
But still - he is a great character to have around. And his banters with Varric are hilarious

[Meeszy Alexy]

I have yet to get Skyrim, though I might not bother if it's just a sandbox. I like the whole "putting buckets over a NPC shopkeeper's head to steal all their stuff" thing, though.

[Sialater]

Because I need more cute today:


By Sakatak

[Annarl]

Arquen wrote...

8 hours again people!? The forums is dead

Yeah, Skyrim is "the thing" right now, and while I *AM* playing it as well.. I'm not.. loving it. I must be the ONLY one in the world who is just kind of *meh* with it and not "OMGOMGOMG." I wasn't a fan of Oblivion either. These giant sandbox RPG games just don't do it for me.

I was having this conversation about why I like Dragon Age ( and consequently Fenris) moreso than other RPGs and RPG characters. We went back/forth about how we like the story and get attached to the characters within the story. In games like Skyrim it is almost impossible for me to really feel connected to anyone, even my own character. I keep asking myself "what's my motivation? Why do I care?" It makes it really hard for me to give a crap about random NPC #2 and their "problems." Plus there is only so much STEAL ALL THE THINGS and KILL ALL THE THINGS I can take before I am just.. bored.

With games like Dragon Age it is like you are in the story. I immediately identified with Hawke, I immediately cared about Varric, and Fenris, and Anders and all the companions. I wanted to know their stories. I wanted to explore the options. ALL OF THE OPTIONS.

We also got to talking about how we both like characters like Fenris. Those that struggle against a darkness inside of them, and yet somehow find the strength of will to come out rather normal. Those characters who are literally on the edge of becoming villains, and sometimes you sit back and you wonder WHY? "Why isn't Fenris more angry? Why didn't he just go KILL ALL THE MAGES THOSE BASTARDS LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO ME!?" Yet, he doesn't. He isn't even close to that. Those kind of characters intrigue me, and are a personal interest of mine. Anti-heros in general, but I love the dark and tortured yet struggling to be better trope. Whereas I don't really enjoy the hero character at all. I don't like the badass with a heart of gold as much as I like the overcoming the struggle within oneself. I also like characters who are willing to do evil to stop evil, and I don't like heros as I said.

Fenris just sort of hit all those right things, and when I play other games that don't have such rounded out stories and companions, I find it hard to care about what is going on in the world. The quest for "power" alone is not enough for me I guess.

As for me... I'm playing Skyrim (off and on because I really am giving it the ole' college try), but also enjoying Modern Warfare 3.

I just fear that the forums may be dead for a while. Though they have been on a slow decline for a while.

Going back to work as well. Will check in when I can. Much my fellow Fenris fans.

I really enjoy both types of RPGs.  Sometimes it's nice to do nothing but roam around exploring and or doing side quests such as the Dark Brotherhood.  I always love that quest line.  Hey, now we can get married in Skyrim.  But DA2 and Skyrim are very different types of games and don't always appeal to everyone.  Personally, I like the change.
  
You could just focus on the main quest line and see if you like it more.  Then try some side quests for XP.

As for Modern Warfare 3......NO Soap ....I was sad.

Yes, the forums have been dying.  DA2 wasn't loved by all.  Okay I admit I liked it a lot but didn't love it the way I did DAO.  Fenris save the day. 

Arcane Solona, if you didn't like Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas chances are you won't like Skyrim.  It's the same style.  I think the main storyline is better...well what I have seen of it and the lore books are great. 

Modifié par omearaee, 15 novembre 2011 - 04:19 .

[Tealsie]

So I think someone mentioned, awhile ago, that Gideon voices several characters in Skyrim. I temporarily ditched the main story(which I always do for awhile) in order to play through the Dark Brotherhood quests. And, of course, one of the targets the player goes after... is voiced by Himself.  my heart hurts. Especially since, when you first see him, he's saying farewell to what sounds like a love of his. Sweet... *bawls*

[esper]

omearaee wrote...

Arquen wrote...

8 hours again people!? The forums is dead

Yeah, Skyrim is "the thing" right now, and while I *AM* playing it as well.. I'm not.. loving it. I must be the ONLY one in the world who is just kind of *meh* with it and not "OMGOMGOMG." I wasn't a fan of Oblivion either. These giant sandbox RPG games just don't do it for me.

I was having this conversation about why I like Dragon Age ( and consequently Fenris) moreso than other RPGs and RPG characters. We went back/forth about how we like the story and get attached to the characters within the story. In games like Skyrim it is almost impossible for me to really feel connected to anyone, even my own character. I keep asking myself "what's my motivation? Why do I care?" It makes it really hard for me to give a crap about random NPC #2 and their "problems." Plus there is only so much STEAL ALL THE THINGS and KILL ALL THE THINGS I can take before I am just.. bored.

With games like Dragon Age it is like you are in the story. I immediately identified with Hawke, I immediately cared about Varric, and Fenris, and Anders and all the companions. I wanted to know their stories. I wanted to explore the options. ALL OF THE OPTIONS.

We also got to talking about how we both like characters like Fenris. Those that struggle against a darkness inside of them, and yet somehow find the strength of will to come out rather normal. Those characters who are literally on the edge of becoming villains, and sometimes you sit back and you wonder WHY? "Why isn't Fenris more angry? Why didn't he just go KILL ALL THE MAGES THOSE BASTARDS LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO ME!?" Yet, he doesn't. He isn't even close to that. Those kind of characters intrigue me, and are a personal interest of mine. Anti-heros in general, but I love the dark and tortured yet struggling to be better trope. Whereas I don't really enjoy the hero character at all. I don't like the badass with a heart of gold as much as I like the overcoming the struggle within oneself. I also like characters who are willing to do evil to stop evil, and I don't like heros as I said.

Fenris just sort of hit all those right things, and when I play other games that don't have such rounded out stories and companions, I find it hard to care about what is going on in the world. The quest for "power" alone is not enough for me I guess.

As for me... I'm playing Skyrim (off and on because I really am giving it the ole' college try), but also enjoying Modern Warfare 3.

I just fear that the forums may be dead for a while. Though they have been on a slow decline for a while.

Going back to work as well. Will check in when I can. Much my fellow Fenris fans.

I really enjoy both types of RPGs.  Sometimes it's nice to do nothing but roam around exploring and or doing side quests such as the Dark Brotherhood.  I always love that quest line.  Hey, now we can get married in Skyrim.  But DA2 and Skyrim are very different types of games and don't always appeal to everyone.  Personally, I like the change.
  
You could just focus on the main quest line and see if you like it more.  Then try some side quests for XP.

As for Modern Warfare 3......NO Soap ....I was sad.

Yes, the forums have been dying.  DA2 wasn't loved by all.  Okay I admit I liked it a lot but didn't love it the way I did DAO.  Fenris save the day. 

Arcane Solona, if you didn't like Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas chances are you won't like Skyrim.  It's the same style.  I think the main storyline is better...well what I have seen of it and the lore books are great. 

Really? Is it like a Fable marriage? I must admit that I haven't discovered that aspect yet. I am currently stuck in the College quest line and trying to convince myself that I must NOT go back to dragon age yet. I must admit, I prefer non-sandbox rpg, but I also comes from jrpg. I lost interest in Oblivion about half.way through. I like stat raising and do like the gameplay of Elder Scroll, but I never bother to finsih them. The stories are just to... plain.

So far my best Skyrim experience was that I picked up a random lore-book and got a questline. That made me go This quest I have to do.

To  bring the topic a little back to Fenris. I am currently working hard on getting Aveline to betray me. It is hard work, but what are you Fenris' fans opnion on the fact that Aveline's loaylty in part is dependent on Fenris? I must admit that I don't like it. I think that if you ignore characters to the point that they will betray you then it is your own problem.

[Reinara]

esper wrote...

omearaee wrote...

Arquen wrote...

8 hours again people!? The forums is dead

Yeah, Skyrim is "the thing" right now, and while I *AM* playing it as well.. I'm not.. loving it. I must be the ONLY one in the world who is just kind of *meh* with it and not "OMGOMGOMG." I wasn't a fan of Oblivion either. These giant sandbox RPG games just don't do it for me.

I was having this conversation about why I like Dragon Age ( and consequently Fenris) moreso than other RPGs and RPG characters. We went back/forth about how we like the story and get attached to the characters within the story. In games like Skyrim it is almost impossible for me to really feel connected to anyone, even my own character. I keep asking myself "what's my motivation? Why do I care?" It makes it really hard for me to give a crap about random NPC #2 and their "problems." Plus there is only so much STEAL ALL THE THINGS and KILL ALL THE THINGS I can take before I am just.. bored.

With games like Dragon Age it is like you are in the story. I immediately identified with Hawke, I immediately cared about Varric, and Fenris, and Anders and all the companions. I wanted to know their stories. I wanted to explore the options. ALL OF THE OPTIONS.

We also got to talking about how we both like characters like Fenris. Those that struggle against a darkness inside of them, and yet somehow find the strength of will to come out rather normal. Those characters who are literally on the edge of becoming villains, and sometimes you sit back and you wonder WHY? "Why isn't Fenris more angry? Why didn't he just go KILL ALL THE MAGES THOSE BASTARDS LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO ME!?" Yet, he doesn't. He isn't even close to that. Those kind of characters intrigue me, and are a personal interest of mine. Anti-heros in general, but I love the dark and tortured yet struggling to be better trope. Whereas I don't really enjoy the hero character at all. I don't like the badass with a heart of gold as much as I like the overcoming the struggle within oneself. I also like characters who are willing to do evil to stop evil, and I don't like heros as I said.

Fenris just sort of hit all those right things, and when I play other games that don't have such rounded out stories and companions, I find it hard to care about what is going on in the world. The quest for "power" alone is not enough for me I guess.

As for me... I'm playing Skyrim (off and on because I really am giving it the ole' college try), but also enjoying Modern Warfare 3.

I just fear that the forums may be dead for a while. Though they have been on a slow decline for a while.

Going back to work as well. Will check in when I can. Much my fellow Fenris fans.

I really enjoy both types of RPGs.  Sometimes it's nice to do nothing but roam around exploring and or doing side quests such as the Dark Brotherhood.  I always love that quest line.  Hey, now we can get married in Skyrim.  But DA2 and Skyrim are very different types of games and don't always appeal to everyone.  Personally, I like the change.
  
You could just focus on the main quest line and see if you like it more.  Then try some side quests for XP.

As for Modern Warfare 3......NO Soap ....I was sad.

Yes, the forums have been dying.  DA2 wasn't loved by all.  Okay I admit I liked it a lot but didn't love it the way I did DAO.  Fenris save the day. 

Arcane Solona, if you didn't like Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas chances are you won't like Skyrim.  It's the same style.  I think the main storyline is better...well what I have seen of it and the lore books are great. 

Really? Is it like a Fable marriage? I must admit that I haven't discovered that aspect yet. I am currently stuck in the College quest line and trying to convince myself that I must NOT go back to dragon age yet. I must admit, I prefer non-sandbox rpg, but I also comes from jrpg. I lost interest in Oblivion about half.way through. I like stat raising and do like the gameplay of Elder Scroll, but I never bother to finsih them. The stories are just to... plain.

So far my best Skyrim experience was that I picked up a random lore-book and got a questline. That made me go This quest I have to do.

To  bring the topic a little back to Fenris. I am currently working hard on getting Aveline to betray me. It is hard work, but what are you Fenris' fans opnion on the fact that Aveline's loaylty in part is dependent on Fenris? I must admit that I don't like it. I think that if you ignore characters to the point that they will betray you then it is your own problem.

@Arquen: As much as I'm *_* over Skyrim right now, I still prefer Dragon Age and Mass Effect for the companion characters and how involved it can make me feel, whereas I like Skyrim and other Bethesda games for the freedom it gives me to make my character literally anything I want and have it effect the sandbox world visibly, not to mention I can do cool quests like assassinating people with the Dark Brotherhood and quietly sneaking in to do shill jobs with the Thieves' guild. So if the main quest isn't hooking you (like it often doesn't do to me *hated the main quest in oblivion*), I'd second what omearaee  said and suggest doing one of the guilds questlines first because they tend to be more interesting than GO TO DUNGEON, FETCH RANDOM RELIC.

@esper: yuuup you can marry people now. It's... not quite like fable marriage where you can get marry, boink and have kids and only interact with them via buttons and they never talk, but it's also not that different either since you pretty much just go buy this amulet, wear it, and if it's just some generic npc they'll ask if you want to marry them, whereas if it's a more important npcs like ones from the questlines (like Vilkas:wub:) you'll either have to finish a quest for them first or finish one of the guild questlines. Then you go to this temple place and after they're married you can either 1) ask them to cook for you 2) ask them to store stuff for you 3) get income from their shop 4) choose where they live, one of your houses or theirs 5) If they're a fighting NPC, you can ask them to go adventuring with you.

And to answer the other question... ahaha I really have no idea how to get Aveline to betray you without making your other companions not loyal enough. I'm actually attempting a new playthrough right now with a new combination of not doing any of her companion quests but trying to max her friendship/rivalry and see how that goes, though. So far she's been appointed as Guard Captain anyway since the old one ran off, but this time apparently it's only an interim position or something. I'm also debating seeing what happens if you dawdle around and not help Fenris with Hadriana since this time I'm trying soooooo hard to do the Sebmance for once and him and Anders being there is tempting my resolve but... Fenris meanwhile I have a feeling I won't have much trouble sending Anders away during his act 2 quest for once though *is obviously strongly biased* ;_;

now to be totally on topic, here's another pseudorandom characterswap cap. I always like this particular scene for this camera angle.

[Heidenreich]

I'm utterly adoring Skyrim right now. Mind you I didn't right out of the gate. It took the Companions side quest to really do it for me I think. If you haven't done them yet I suggest you do do do do it. There's a pair of brothers that are just.. UMF bad ass. FULLY INTEND TO MARRY ONE OF THEM YESSREE.

That being said, I usually dislike big open world games, because I get lost quickly. Instead this time I picked a fairly easy to build character (Sword/Shield/Healing spells Imperial) and am sticking to mostly main story and Companion quests.

Vilkas is adorable, but Farkas.. UHNF. BROODY QUIET TYPES ARE MY WEAKNESS FOR EVER. HE'S LIKE THE SKYRIM VERSION OF FENRIS WITH HIS MAGE HATE AND HIS BIG SWORD. MMMMM.

[Fault Girl]

Hiiiiii guys :happy:

My fanfiction Imprisoned with the Wolf is all back up and with a new chapter.

For anyone who was following previously!

Also know it's a long shot, it anyone had saved any of my old stories can you send them to me?

Still trying to retrieve alot of them

I also have another Hawke/Fenris fanfic up called Becoming Hawke, it's a bit slow at the moment as I'm trying to build the base but let me know what you guys think! <3

[Fault Girl]

Heidenreich wrote...

I'm utterly adoring Skyrim right now. Mind you I didn't right out of the gate. It took the Companions side quest to really do it for me I think. If you haven't done them yet I suggest you do do do do it. There's a pair of brothers that are just.. UMF bad ass. FULLY INTEND TO MARRY ONE OF THEM YESSREE.

That being said, I usually dislike big open world games, because I get lost quickly. Instead this time I picked a fairly easy to build character (Sword/Shield/Healing spells Imperial) and am sticking to mostly main story and Companion quests.

Vilkas is adorable, but Farkas.. UHNF. BROODY QUIET TYPES ARE MY WEAKNESS FOR EVER. HE'S LIKE THE SKYRIM VERSION OF FENRIS WITH HIS MAGE HATE AND HIS BIG SWORD. MMMMM.

Already got my eye on Farkas, I love SKYRIM. I have started a fanfic with my character with him as a possible LI.

I'm so bad for brooody men.

It's in my link in my sig!

[Gervaise]

Esper - I didn't know that Averline's loyalty depended on that of Fenris - in what way? My first run through Averline was only just on the side of friendship on the scale but stuck with me at the end even if I went with the mages but Fenris was my romance so of course he stayed with me regardless. Does this account for why Averline stayed loyal? Are there any other companions where their loyalty is dependent on that of another if you haven't maxed out their friendship/rivalry? (Obviously I know that Sebastian's is dependent on killing Anders)

[Annarl]

Reinara wrote...

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@esper: yuuup you can marry people now. It's... not quite like fable marriage where you can get marry, boink and have kids and only interact with them via buttons and they never talk, but it's also not that different either since you pretty much just go buy this amulet, wear it, and if it's just some generic npc they'll ask if you want to marry them, whereas if it's a more important npcs like ones from the questlines (like Vilkas:wub:) you'll either have to finish a quest for them first or finish one of the guild questlines. Then you go to this temple place and after they're married you can either 1) ask them to cook for you 2) ask them to store stuff for you 3) get income from their shop 4) choose where they live, one of your houses or theirs 5) If they're a fighting NPC, you can ask them to go adventuring with you.

You forgot if you sleep with your spouse you receive the Lover's Comfort bonus.  I don't think you can have children.  And you can freak out and change your mind and then kill everyone during the ceremony...I have not done that.  Oh and they can train you in their specialization (if available) such as Vilkas but I don't think his brother is available for marriage.  I think.
The relationships are not deep.  But this is a big step for the Elder Scrolls series, it's the first time you can have a relationship.
It really is a different type of game from the type of game Bioware does.

Gideon does voice several of the characters, but not as many as I would like.  I could listen to him for hours.

Modifié par omearaee, 15 novembre 2011 - 10:49 .

[UrsulaCousland]

Gervaise wrote...

Esper - I didn't know that Averline's loyalty depended on that of Fenris - in what way? My first run through Averline was only just on the side of friendship on the scale but stuck with me at the end even if I went with the mages but Fenris was my romance so of course he stayed with me regardless. Does this account for why Averline stayed loyal? Are there any other companions where their loyalty is dependent on that of another if you haven't maxed out their friendship/rivalry? (Obviously I know that Sebastian's is dependent on killing Anders)

I remember reading somewhere that the various classes are set up so you will always have a warrior, rogue, and caster with you - so, for example, if you have Fenris max friend/rival and Aveline not, and you go mage, I think Aveline will betray you. Basically, Aveline will stay with you if FEnris betrays you, so I think the reverse may work as well.

I don't 100% know for sure though.

[Sealy]

OMG Mass Effect 2 is eating my brain, what was I thinking starting this game right before Assassins Creed came out. My eyes feel funny I have been playing so long. have to work tonight, that means 4 hours away from the game, I am running on no fuel. damn you sleep, why didn't you force me to stop, those planets didn't need to be scanned. I have figured out the shooting stuff and... this is majorly off topic. but I'm shy, what if the kids over in the Mass Effect don't like me!?

Alright, on topic, sort of, Garrus and Thane mixed is so Fenris, serious inner turmoil and outer stoicism and mix it with a little dry wit and ****iness. Makes it difficult to decide who to romance cause I love Fenris' zen moments and his wit! Btw, before I always read people throwing a fit about Fenris because he is a copy of Jack, I have to disagree, they both have tats the resemblence ends right there, their personalities are so different.

Okay so thought I would read up on the convo, but with Mass effect and AC:R my brain will be losing it's Fen love for my Garrus/Thane/Tali/Ezio love until the phase ends! I will be back. Tell Fenris I'll miss him! Take care of him for me while I am away!
 
*tentatively edges towards Mass Effect forums.*

Edit: Happy Belated Birthday Arquen, sorry I missed the day!

Modifié par Fleshdress, 15 novembre 2011 - 11:08 .

[esper]

Gervaise wrote...

Esper - I didn't know that Averline's loyalty depended on that of Fenris - in what way? My first run through Averline was only just on the side of friendship on the scale but stuck with me at the end even if I went with the mages but Fenris was my romance so of course he stayed with me regardless. Does this account for why Averline stayed loyal? Are there any other companions where their loyalty is dependent on that of another if you haven't maxed out their friendship/rivalry? (Obviously I know that Sebastian's is dependent on killing Anders)

Basically you can have Aveline at 0 points, done none of her quest, but if Fenris sides against you she don't.

[UrsulaCousland]

Fleshdress wrote...

OMG Mass Effect 2 is eating my brain, what was I thinking starting this game right before Assassins Creed came out. My eyes feel funny I have been playing so long. have to work tonight, that means 4 hours away from the game, I am running on no fuel. damn you sleep, why didn't you force me to stop, those planets didn't need to be scanned. I have figured out the shooting stuff and... this is majorly off topic. but I'm shy, what if the kids over in the Mass Effect don't like me!?

Alright, on topic, sort of, Garrus and Thane mixed is so Fenris, serious inner turmoil and outer stoicism and mix it with a little dry wit and ****iness. Makes it difficult to decide who to romance cause I love Fenris' zen moments and his wit! Btw, before I always read people throwing a fit about Fenris because he is a copy of Jack, I have to disagree, they both have tats the resemblence ends right there, their personalities are so different.

Okay so thought I would read up on the convo, but with Mass effect and AC:R my brain will be losing it's Fen love for my Garrus/Thane/Tali/Ezio love until the phase ends! I will be back. Tell Fenris I'll miss him! Take care of him for me while I am away!
 
*tentatively edges towards Mass Effect forums.*

Edit: Happy Belated Birthday Arquen, sorry I missed the day!

I used to love the Garrus thread(s) - been avoiding them for fear of spoilers, but I do miss those folks. The Garrus threads are usually like us but perhaps a bit more...crazed...at times. Does that seem true to you, Obsy and Sia?

ETA: Fenris is a copy of Jack?! What galaxy are those people flying around in?! *rolls eyes*

(Ahem) - Back on topic...

I missed the "does Fenris identify as an elf" discussion yesterday (darn exam...). I think that he does, but as DG makes clear, he has no time for the City elves. He views them as 'squandering' the freedom he didn't have until recently, and that most elves lack in Tevinter.

I also think he's used to city life, and is fairly fastidious as well (look at how he is dusting himself off during his 'idle' animations, and how he comments that the Hanged Man *is* filthy). So, the idea of being out of the city with the Daelish doesn't interest him either. Merrill being a blood mage is just icing on the cake for him as far as the 'local' Daelish go.

I am surprised that he stays as quiet as he does around some of the racism you see in Kirkwall and nearby environs, though.  I mean, he calls Thrask on it, but that's a rare case unless he's talking in-group.

As far as Hawke goes - Aniya, at least, is sympathetic. To me, head!canon for her is that Malcolm was a mage first and that race came second, so when he was in the Circle, that's how he viewed things. That's also the view he would have passed to his children.  When she gets to Kirkwall, she's appalled by the rampant slaving and such, and it seems like the Fereldens are just as much a target as the Elves. It almost seems like no one cares if a few Fereldens go missing either (just as Lia's father says no one notices when elven children go missing). She can't help but sympathize, and dealing with slavers helps both groups.   

She falls for Fenris for Fenris - "it's not like (she) has a fetish for (elves)", if I may steal a quote from another Bioware character and alter it to fit my purposes. Yes, his looks get her attention, but it's about a lot more than that alone.

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 15 novembre 2011 - 11:21 .

[esper]

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Modifié par esper, 15 novembre 2011 - 11:20 .

[Obsydian]

the Garrus thread is one of the most accepting places on the BSN. its a bit spoilery at the moment (which, honestly, is fine with me... i adore spoilers...) but yeah. its a great place to hang out. Ursula is correct.

i also tend to jump pretty rediculously back and forth between ME2 and DA2. and Garrus/Nihlus and Fenris.
right now I'm on a DA2 kick cause I never actually got to finish it before it left me and went to Afghanistan for a year. i had like 2 hours left. not that I don't already know what happens (like i said, i'm kinda a fiend for spoilers...

[AbsoluteApril]

Reinara wrote...
 I'm also debating seeing what happens if you dawdle around and not help Fenris with Hadriana 

I avoided taking Fenris pretty much anywhere on my 2nd playthrough since I really wanted to do the Andersmance but knew myself well enough that if I heard *that voice* and saw *those eyes* Fenris would win Hawke over, so I didn't do the Hadriana part (it never came up) - basically in the end Fenris sided with the Templars (I was a mage) and I had to kill him.

Fleshdress wrote...


*tentatively edges towards Mass Effect forums.*
 

Re; Mass Effect - that is the game that caused me to buy Dragon Age, I figured if ME was so awesome then their fantasy RPG must be pretty good as well (oh yeah!) - finally beat ME1&2 on insantiy so if you need any tips let me know (not that I'm a pro or anything LOL) I've got about 8 PTs in ME1 and 4 in ME2 so far, all classes except Soldier, working on Adept currently. I refuse to look at any ME threads since they all seem to be spoiler-ific right now. *grumble* First PTs are always 'virgin' PTs - spoiler free if I can help it. I'm also a Kaidan/Garrus fan, but they still don't hold a candle to Ali/Fenris IMO.

Skyrim will have to wait until 2012 after ME3 comes out, too many other games and PTs to finish up until March.

edit to add: 

UrsulaCousland wrote...
I also think he's used to city life, and is fairly fastidious as well (look at how he is dusting himself off during his 'idle' animations, and how he comments that the Hanged Man *is* filthy).

heh except for the fact that he keeps all those rotting corpses in the mansion!

And Fenris / Jack the same? I agree, why would people think that?  - cause they both have tats/markings and are angry?

Modifié par AbsoluteApril, 16 novembre 2011 - 01:01 .

[ReiSilver]

Fenris does seem quite fastidious XD maybe the corpses lying around for years and years is more Varric trying to create atmosphere and give Fenris' mansion an instantly identifiable quirk for the story he's telling. (even though I kind of hate using the 'Varric's story telling' excuse when it is more likely in my mind to be just a result of DA2 being rushed, like the shops and npcs never moving or changing over six years...)

[Arcane_Solona]

@Rei I hate using the 'Varric's story telling' excuse too. There is no excuse for rushing with a game, especially a game that is part of a franchise that is so well-loved by millions of loyal people around the globe.

Gah, don't get me started on the npcs never changing over six years. It's like, they don't even change their freaking clothes! But I guess that's asking for too much. Whatever.

I'm getting Skyrim in around 2 weeks (just placed my order yesterday) so I'm really looking forward to finally being able to post my opinions on it soon!

EDIT: Because this page is seriously lacking in ToPs, and because I love how this drawing reminds me of my fic, here's some eyecandy for my darling thread-buddies:



By *scarlet-xx on DA.

Modifié par Arcane_Solona, 16 novembre 2011 - 02:31 .

[Arquen]

Lol... so having never played mass effect I don't hang out anywhere but here. I lurk around on the dao forums though.

My head!canon for the corpses is simple. Fenris doesn't want people to think the mansion is occupied and he also wants to deter other squatters. Hence he leaves the corpses while he lives in the back room. I also like how he doesn't sleep in the master bedroom. He takes the small servant's bed in the corner. The two rooms to the side have huge canopy beds but he doesn't use them. Maybe when it rains, lol.

I also head!canon that Fenris has a few traps around the place, but more like warning or alarm traps to let him know someone is there than actual deadly traps. In case its refugees or something. Plus Hawke and co. Lol.

While I don't think Fenris's appearance concerns him much, I do think he tries to keep himself clean, at least. Probably because Danarius didn't want a dirty,scraggly looking bodyguard and I bet Fenris got backlash if he appeared uncouth or damaged his armor.

Just my head!canon... only real evidence being Fenris's upkeep of his ONE armor set and his idle animations where he looks around and lifts his feet and dusts himself off.

In all honesty the mansion is just a rushed job and they didn't change the model. They should have...at least after act 2 where people pretty much know he lives there.

[Sealy]

I always though of Fenris as tidy too, I mean I can't remember if it is on the wounded coast or Sundermount but he says something like "Uhg, tramping around in the dirt. Why the Dalish enjoy this I'll never know." So I find appearence wise as far as putting in effort to being clean he is all about that. WQhat his looks are though? I don't think he cares, but his use of puppy eyes whenever he wants your help tells me he is aware he's good looking.

*off topic as I had just found it and it interrupted my post.*
Just went upstairs to lay down cause I have a slamming headache and magically my boyfriend became the best person on earth, Assassins Creed: R was lying under my pillowcase. best boyfriend ever. I have been freaking off the wall ever since. *sigh*

Okay, off to finish Renegade Mass Effect while desperately trying to avoid giving up and playing AC.
 
*on topic again, after giggle/gasping has dies down.*

Also not very shocked about the masion as none of the locations change at all ever. The scenery in DA2 looks rushed and careless. Luckily I play for the dialogue and not the pretty picyured as long as my characters are well animated then whatever.   

Modifié par Fleshdress, 16 novembre 2011 - 06:08 .

[Catriana]

Arquen wrote...
'Lots of awesome was written here'.

TBH, I feel the same way about Skyrim. I mean, I love Bethesda's ability to create a beautiful game full of exploration, but I hate that character interaction-wise, it just isn't there. Their games aren't about character development, sometimes, they're not even that much about plot. There is lots of lore and lots of people to meet and do quests from, but nothing long lasting. It is one of the reasons I enjoy Bioware's video games so much, because I love getting into the characters.

Mostly, I haven't played because I have a novel I need to finish before the end of the year to submit to my publisher. It ain't gonna write itself.

Fenris is probably my favorite character, hands down. He's heavily flawed, but he experienced a lot of development off screen, before you even met him, and on screen after you do.  In many ways he's like a child, yet he has a strength most adults lack. He is probably one of the most faithful characters in the game once you max him out, and I absolutely love that. I love that in the end, even if he doesn't at all agree with you, he respects you enough and holds your character in such high esteem so as to stick by you, be it within a romance or not. That is not to say he's the only faithful one, simply that he's the one who impacted me the most when I played the game. Surprisingly, even though I didn't care for her much in the beginning, Merrill is a very close second.

Unsurprisingly, Zevran comes in as a very close second as favorite DA character of all time. It saddens me to no end that your Warden's romance with him will probably never carry over to future games, but the actual romance itself was intriguing. I like that both characters will do what needs to be done to succeed, and while other characters may squack and whine about your Warden or Hawke's decisions, both men will support you till the bitter end (Well, except in Origins, as you could still lose points, even if you had them maxed. STILL!).

I don't mind heros with a heart of gold, or even complete ****s, as long as they're written well. As for Hawkes, my all time favorite is Sarcastic!Hawke, although sometimes his comments made me sigh with exasperation. But hey, I love imperfection.

Edit: I has Fenris art to contribute!


Fenris and Rhian Hawke, from my fic My Home is You drawn by the awesome pyromaniac03 on DeviantArt

Modifié par Catriana, 16 novembre 2011 - 06:56 .