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[Arcane_Solona]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

you know what will help? a quick google search of these key terms: cute fenris

viola!



source: http://reanimatrix.t...oft-fenris-warm

Ahhhhh, Pocket Fenris! These pop up all the time on tumblr! <3

EDIT: ToP

Well helloooo there, sexy!



By AzraelEvangeline on DA

Modifié par Arcane_Solona, 03 décembre 2011 - 11:48 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

Arcane your corrupting me...and thats an impossible feat to do.....also that is such a damn tease...whats below the belt? I gotta know!

[Dutchess]

 Ooh, his pants are about to fall off. xD Nice pic, only his arms look a bit weird... or is that just me? Still, very hot.

[Cosmochyck]

renjility wrote...

 Ooh, his pants are about to fall off. xD Nice pic, only his arms look a bit weird... or is that just me? Still, very hot.

How 'bout another tease?  One of my personal faves :0
By jhourney

[UrsulaCousland]

*stares* Yeah...two of my faves on 1 page. I'll be in my bunk.

[dangereusegirl]

*delurks*

I'm with Ursula on this one.

Dayum.

[Obsydian]

...i love you guys. i've had a rough and terrible fight with the boy.... and seeing the sexiness that is Fenris makes my night a wee bit happier.
i'mma go curl up and dream about sexy elves now.

damn those are some sexy pictures. keep 'em coming.

[Sealy]

Feel better Obsydian. Boys can be lame at times. Right now my house is invaded by poker players. I have been banished to the basement. Man, I am so in love with the curve before Fens butt.

[Arcane_Solona]

 @Ghost_Nappa Muahahahaha. That's what I'm here for;)
@Cosmo My gosh, that one is my absolute FAVOURITE!:wub:

@Obsy *hugs* Feel better, Obsy:kissing:

@Fleshy Man, I'm so in love with every single part of that sexy elf.

And I absolutely love how he's wearing Hawke's favour in both pictures<3

Modifié par Arcane_Solona, 04 décembre 2011 - 06:22 .

[Arquen]

Gahh... at work. Had to pick up tonight extra. Grr. Those are two of my favorite pics and Pocket!Fenris and Pocket!Anders kill me. Uncreativeart is a genius!

I actually did read that fic series cosmo posted before. I remembered it when I started reading it. I just.. I guess I'm the unpopular opinion, and will leave it at that. Though, I should probably just avoid people for a while since my views have been at odds with everyone lately. I don't really care to be antagonistic.

That being said, been rolling around theory in my head, but have been too tired to post anything coherent after work. So I guess the lyrium debate will have to wait...

Feel better Obsydian! Hope Fenris can cheer you up at least .

[Dutchess]

 @ Cosmo: okay, that pic is simply gorgeous. Just wow. That's the best I've ever seen yet. Where did you find it? Is it on deviant art? Oh, never mind. I see posted the name of the creator after all. Found it.
@ Arquen: it's alright to disagree sometimes, don't worry. Fenris doesn't mind to disagree either. Stories and such are always a matter of personal taste and opinion. No one is right or wrong when it comes to that.  Except maybe when it comes to Twilight *ahem*. Don't see why anyone would like that...
Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Modifié par renjility, 04 décembre 2011 - 10:22 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

I have to say for a subject change....its next to see Arquen and Arcane profile pics to pop up. Its like a looking at a potential flip book of Fenris expressions.

That or when someones else profile is sandwhich between the two....wow phrasing there. (dirty joke or happy times? You decide ladies/gentlemen)

[Thiefy]

Cosmochyck wrote...

renjility wrote...

 Ooh, his pants are about to fall off. xD Nice pic, only his arms look a bit weird... or is that just me? Still, very hot.

How 'bout another tease?  One of my personal faves :0
By jhourney

ladies, i approve of your shirtless fenpics

[Ghost_Nappa]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

renjility wrote...

 Ooh, his pants are about to fall off. xD Nice pic, only his arms look a bit weird... or is that just me? Still, very hot.

How 'bout another tease?  One of my personal faves :0
By jhourney

ladies, i approve of your shirtless fenpics

Wow on closer inspection I also notice he is sans pants.....

[Cosmochyck]

@Arquen - always healthy to disagree! Hopefully the extra work wasn't too miserable.

@Flesh - hipe you survived poker night!

@Obsyd- boys can be VERY stupid. Repeatedly. Hope you feel better today *hugs*

And as for Fenris...yum. That one pic I posted has been my phone wallpaper for some time now..always makes me feel better!

[Sir Edric]

Cosmochyck wrote...

renjility wrote...

 Ooh, his pants are about to fall off. xD Nice pic, only his arms look a bit weird... or is that just me? Still, very hot.

How 'bout another tease?  One of my personal faves :0
By jhourney

I've seen this pic a hundred times and I still faint when I see this.

[UrsulaCousland]

Vrex_12 wrote...

Cosmochyck wrote...

renjility wrote...

 Ooh, his pants are about to fall off. xD Nice pic, only his arms look a bit weird... or is that just me? Still, very hot.

How 'bout another tease?  One of my personal faves :0
By jhourney

I've seen this pic a hundred times and I still faint when I see this.

Amen to that. 

Sorry I haven't been around much - the last week or so has been emotionally crappy. But this thread is guaranteed to make me smile or laugh most of the time. I needed that.

(Note, I'll leave Marked unread for a bit. I'll take all your words for it. )

The Fenris (and Garrus) threads. Good for what ails 'ya.

*leaves some hot gourmet coffee and fresh cupcakes*

[Annarl]

Gervaise wrote...

What would be even worse is if David Gaider made good on his comments about the lyrium tattoos having a bad effect on Fenris and you encountered him either horribly crippled or insane. I would rather leave him just happy somewhere with Hawke in my imagination than have something bad happen to him because he returns in DA3.

Yeah that would be rather aweful.  And truthfully I wouldn't want to see that.  So I too would rather have my own endingfor Fenris.

[Annarl]

Arcane_Solona wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...

sweet baby jesus cosmo... I can't stop crying!

I just read it for the second time and I'm crying harder than the first time! My heart is literally- LITERALLY- aching in my chest.

My gosh, my gosh, my gosh.

I was going to read it but now I'm not sure.  

And 
Arcane, I have never seen that picture before (well that I remember and I think I would), it is wonderful

Modifié par omearaee, 04 décembre 2011 - 05:39 .

[Arquen]

 I know it's finals week and all... but.. you know.. now that I have time, and well 14 HOURS people WTF!?
So... typical Arquen Wall-O-text!

I've read your lyrium essay and found it very interesting. I do believe the lyrium is harmful for Fenris and I fear he won't become as old as he could have without those markings. Even dwarves are not immune to the effects and cannot just touch it without harm. Remember that dwarven merchant in Orzammer in DAO? He had some kind of accident with the lyrium he works with, and that seriously damaged his mind. I don't recall what exactly was the accident, whether it involved accidental contact with the lyrium or simply too much contact with it, but it proves that even to the people who have some kind of resilience to it need to be very careful. The templars who use it become strongly addicted to it and their minds get altered somewhat as well. Especially when they have withdrawal symptoms.

This was all considered and I definitely agree. It is why I never truly believe or completely throw out the idea that the Lyrium may, one day, mean the death of Fenris. I also put in that he most likely has physical repercussions and changes that are permanent due to the lyrium. The dwarves are resistant to magic, and there are no dwarven mages. What I was refering to in my dwarven immunity is the evolution of the dwarves over time. Handling raw lyrium is indeed dangerous to anyone, which makes the whole idea that Fenris even survived such a ritual with its use quite the anomaly.

It is odd that Fenris has survived that long already with all that stuff in him without any clear effects on his mind. That he would have some kind of inborn resilience however I find I bit too much of a coincidence. He is an elf, not a dwarf. Fenris' body and mind are probably very strong, to make it possible for him to survive the ritual. But  I think Danarius' ritual includes a sort of protection against the potential harmful effects and not that it really is an protection he was born with. Although, now that I think of it... his sister is a mage, so a certain affinity for magic runs in his family... but mages can't touch raw lyrium without killing themselves, so that would rather be a disadvantage... Maybe because he isn't a mage some special "magic" gene (lol) gives a certain protection. I'm not sure.

Here is where I have to disagree. I don't find it "convenient." I find it part of Danarius's preparations. We do not know what the "contest" entailed, but it was no doubt to prove strength: physically, mentally, and also against the effects of magic, maybe even lyrium specifically. Now, Fenris is not a dwarf, and therefore does not share that same genetic code of resistance to lyrium and magic. That doesn't mean he wouldn't have some kind of genetics that would predispose him to being resistant anyways. Perhaps as Leto he was exposed to Lyrium? Being around magisters exposed him more and built up some resiliance? Resiliance to lyrium for Fenris comes in the form of tolerance built up over time. It may be he is a unique individual in that regards, and it is why he was chosen during the contest. It may be because he did have a tolerance built up to lyrium due to past exposure even as Leto. I'm inclined to think that whatever protection and damage and maintaining of the lyrium was done during the ritual. As said I do not think the ritual was ever meant to be done again. Danarius wanted a successful prototype, and it doesn't seem feesible that he would have to keep "fixing" said prototype to keep it "functioning" properly. 

That being said, there is no doubt in my mind that Danarius provided some protection spell and incantation during the ritual to ensure its success. It isn't about Fenris's well-being or if he cared whether or not Fenris survived. More about pride and that he wanted his efforts to succeed. "He doesn't want me at all.. just the markings on my skin." As far as the sister thing, rather irrelevant since magic isn't really a genetic thing per say, and a mage would be weaker against such things, as you said. 

I don't think it is possible to undo the ritual without killing Fenris. Due to its highly addictive effects, he will probably suffer from severe withdrawal symptoms if the lyrium is suddenly removed from his body, and those will probably kill him. His body has adapted to the presence of the lyrium and probably can't simply deal without it anymore, especially if you follow your theory about lyrium in his bloodstream and nervous system. If the markings would be more like regular tattoos, only affecting the skin, it might be possible to cut them out, magically or not, but they likely differ too much from tattoos to allow that. And of course it would hurt like hell to cut everything out.

"If the lyrium does become unstable or begin to poison Fenris then I doubt there would be anything to really help him other than trying to remove the lyrium. Trying to reinfuse the lyrium would most likely guarantee death. It doesn’t make sense to add poison to cure poison. I doubt there would be any possible cure and this may very well be how Fenris dies especially if his body can no longer maintain the connection because the lyrium becomes unstable to the point where Fenris cannot maintain it himself."

When I said this it is meant as the only option, but more than likely there would be nothing to cure/fix him. You are right in that trying to remove the markings would probably kill him. The only things left to try would be to replicate some kind of stabilization spell on the lyrium - manipulating it to keep it from affecting Fenris's mind/body or attempting to remove the lyrium (poison) and deal with the withdrawl. In both cases it is a very long shot and most likely would not work. This is what I meant, just didn't go into it extensively.

Whether the memory wipe was intentional... I tend to believe it was a side effect of the ritual and the pain that came with it. I think Fenris was "broken" by all the pain, as happens in the book Wizard's first rule (don't know if you guys have read it of course, but the main character is tortured until he is "broken" and when that has happened, he forgets who he is and doesn't remember things of his old life. He becomes a sort of obedient pet of the woman who tortured him). I think it might even have been a negative thing to happen for Danarius, because now Fenris has forgotten that he wanted the markings and that he actually competed for them. Plus if he still remembered his mother and sister, their existence may have prevented his escape because he feared Danarius would hurt them. It might have helped to keep him in line. If Danarius didn't lie about the affection Fenris once had for him, the memory wipe has done more harm than good by erasing that too.

I've actually read Wizard's First Rule (Sword of Truth series is one of my favorites), but I don't agree it is the same thing at all. The use of systemic abuse and psychological torment that the Mord-Sith learn and use is a breaking of the psyche akin to severe Stockholm's syndrome. The ritual was meant to have a clean slate. This would make it both easier for Danarius to attach the lyrium as a catalyst to Fenris's emotions and make it easier to control him afterwards. "If had known, I may have felt differently." What you describe is not anything at all like the amnesia one suffers from a traumatic event, but the accumulation of conditioning to believe something is true. To forget who you are and everything you are because that is the only way you stay alive. Sooner or later you develop "affection" for your "master," and well.. that relationship is more akin to Fenris and Danarius AFTER the ritual than during. 

Which is another reason why when Danarius says "you once had affection for me" I want to rip his **** head off because that is EXACTLY the sort of response people illicit to control prisoners/slaves/abuse victims. One cannot develop Stockholm's without having some kind of attachment to their tormenter. It becomes a twisted affection because the tormenter mixes fleeting kindness/reward with severe abuse/torment. So the victim does everything possible to earn the kindness even if it is simply being allowed to live. Sorry, another topic...

Ehm... I wanted to say something else as well... oh yes, about the knowledge of the ritual dieing with Danarius. Well, probably not. Danarius didn't exactly keep his lyrium infused slave hidden. He liked to show off with him. Considering how competitive the magisters are, several of his colleague likelys felt inspired to experiment themselves. Danarius is a powerful magister, but nothing states he is the most powerful of all. I see no reason why other magisters would not succeed in recreating his results. At the time, Fenris might have been the first of his kind, but I don't think he will be the last. Lyrium infused slaves will come in pretty handy in the war against the Qunari...

After several test subjects, Danarius would have perfected the method and concluded he needed a very strong person, both of body and mind, to survive the ritual. Because he wanted a body guard, selection by battle was a nice method to find the best subject. 

All in all I fear Fenris's mind and/or body will sooner or later clearly begin to suffer from the unnatural presence of lyrium inside him. How long it will take is hard to tell, because he has already managed so well for 15 years or so (in act 3). Maybe Danarius' magical protection will start to wear off after all those years as well.

Answering all this in one lump...

Basically, I don't think the other magisters would be privvy to Danarius's research. He wouldn't have wanted that to be in anyone else's hands besides his own. I'm sure he had previous test subjects, but Fenris was, admittedly the first, and only successful prototype. Danarius would have guarded that secret and that research carefully. Other magisters can try to replicate it, no doubt, but Danarius's specific research and secrets probably did die with him. Unless he trusted it to an apprentice (which I doubt), or other people were involved in the ritual (which is more likely the case, but I'm sure they were probably killed afterwards.) So, while it is always possible that Fenris is not the last, I doubt we will see an army of Lyrium Warriors any time soon. He is a unique being, in all regards there.

Gaider used the word "maintaining" to describe what Danarius did with the lyrium. "Without Danarius maintaining..." the lyrium we don't know what could happen. Now, while everyone else is all about doom and gloom and he's going to go mad and Danarius's spells will fade eventually. It begs the question -- what spells? what maintainance? It obviously wasn't something Danarius had to be physically present to do. He obviously didn't have to actively be around Fenris "maintaining" the markings with weekly check-ups or something. Therefore, it makes more sense to me that it is a sort of passive thing. Unless it was connected with Danarius's life and then after his death the magic starts to break down. That's the only thought I have that makes sense about "maintenance," but it makes more sense that Fenris could probably pick up on this passive type maintenance himself. Within his many years of being on his own and learning more about how to use his markings I think it is only a matter of time before the "maintenance" is either not required, or something he does passively. Basically, I think he might have his years cut short already because of the markings, the ritual, and the lyrium in general, but I don't see him being doomed per say to a mental breakdown or an anguished death due to it. More than likely just a shorter lifespan.

<3

[tankgirly]

*delurk from the gutter district.*

Oh hi everyone--- *trailed off, saw the wall of text and head exploded.*



by love-squad

Sorry, my brain automatically switch off when encountering a wall of text. I will try to digest them and get back later.

[Arcane_Solona]

The effect that the lyrium markings will have on Fenris is just one of those things that we can debate about all day and write pages and pages of essays, only to find that, in the end, we'll never know what happens (unless DG explains it himself, which I doubt). It's a very interesting topic, sure. I just don't put that much thought into it because... well... because my brain is non-existent after hours and hours of exam prep?

Yeah, I think that's it. Curse you, exams!

And it's been a while since Arquen's famous wall-o-texts! I was starting to miss them!

[tankgirly]

Exciting news, remember a while back there was a lovely WIP fan vid made by Dahlia leaked? Those of us who had the fortune to see it was in awe about how mindbogglingly awesome it was. Well, she had just told me it is near completion. I can't wait to see the final product!

[Arquen]

I'm super excited! I have been secretly waiting for that for a long while now. She does such great work. *sigh*

[Obsydian]

finally got to read chapter 17 of Wolfs Imprint. yay!
finally getting to finish this game. Do you guys even understand how hard it has been to know what happens at the end here, but to never have played it myself? damn. lol. so I'm siding with the Templars (duh) even though I've supported mages mostly throughout the game. I just ... I know Orsino is a blood mage and ... gods I hate blood mages. I wish that Merrill wasn't one. cause I like her ... i just hate her so much. lol. Oh Eve Myles. why must I have a love/hate relationship with you in everything you do....

and thank you guys... my boy issues are by no means resolved.... have only gotten worse/more confusing... but its nice to know that i can come here and get support and sexy pictures of Fenris. cause those really do help.
that and fanfic.
.... I think I've now read Coffee, Black 4 times all the way through. sad, huh. anyone got suggestions for more angsty fic?

lastly oh dear. wall of text. have skimmed... will read officially later. overall though... you're brilliant and i agree.


Edit.  Also. I want to hug Sebastian after the Chantry explodes.  

edit again.  omg. i dont want to kill Anders... but .... i think i have to. :*(  i really do like Anders... for all his whining.   *pushes button*  damn. i didn't want to do lose my healer and friend, but .... I dont want to lose Sebastian either.

last edit. i swear.   ....I wish there was a bit more...  sadness in hawke when he killed Anders.    he and my Hawke were bro's. i know that he felt regret that he had to kill his friend...      can someone tell me, if Anders is your LI and you kill him.. is there anything? please tell me there is.   cause that was heartbreaking. 

Modifié par Obsydian, 05 décembre 2011 - 03:15 .