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#48051
kdarnell

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renjility wrote...

 It's only a little quote as far as I could find. The Wiki links to this: aicosu.tumblr.com/post/8674926256/you-never-told-us-about-the-da3-spoilers-you-got-from

Did you get the sense that Danarius had a really sketchy (*cough* intimate *cough*) relationship with Fenris? Yeah, you weren’t exactly wrong…. :/ 


So it is true then.:o Hmmz. I suspected as much, because you really get that hint... I would interpret it as sexual abuse, although Danarius speaks of 'affection' from Fenris' side... I will give it a little more thought.


If any of you know anything about slaves and abuse victims, this will be familiar. Most slaves that are born into the life don't question it. A great many abuse victims convince themselves that they aren't getting abused but being shown affection. It wasn't until the ritual wiped Fenris's memories that he would have started questioning his life and what he witnissed afterward would probably convinced him that there was no way out of that life. Cannon says that it wasn't until Danarious ordered him to kill the fog warriors that he attempted any escape and that was only because he was disgusted at what he himself did and circumstances were favorable for it.

Modifié par kdarnell, 03 janvier 2012 - 09:33 .


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Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Also Danarius death was satisfying...for the first 10 seconds, but Fenboy needs to plan bigger. Im talking a four post bed, chicken wire, a knife in the gut and a kite spool.


Wait, what...?  You lost me at "four post bed" ;) My Hawke is pushing me aside and grinning at a very nervous elf.

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motomotogirl wrote...

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Also Danarius death was satisfying...for the first 10 seconds, but Fenboy needs to plan bigger. Im talking a four post bed, chicken wire, a knife in the gut and a kite spool.


Wait, what...?  You lost me at "four post bed" ;) My Hawke is pushing me aside and grinning at a very nervous elf.


I'm just confused about the kite spool.

#48054
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ok. so. i haven't been really reading this though i probably should. i just found this and thought it that it needed to be posted.


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http://athamaarit.de...Dance-276007191 

Modifié par Obsydian, 03 janvier 2012 - 10:03 .


#48055
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This year's Fenris' Strawberry Tiramisu at our Christmas table...

Do you think he will like the marshmallow toppings?

Modifié par tankgirly, 03 janvier 2012 - 11:42 .


#48056
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@tanky Oh, I think he will DEVOUR the marshmallow toppings! I know I would! *stares and wipes away drool*

Oh, and Arquen was the one who uploaded that video FOR SCIENCE, as it were. At least I think she did. Wait. No. Wasn't her video about breaking up with Fenris after their first night? Yeah, I'm confused.

All I know is that, the first time I saw and heard the way Danarius spoke to Fenris, I just had that feeling right away that something was just not... right about their previous "relationship" as master and slave. I couldn't shrug the feeling off. And then with TGP's comment about the intimacy, I was all like OMGDANARIUSYOUMOTHEREFFERDIE!!! It also sort of explains why Fenris is so reluctant to be intimate with Hawke. Sort of still scarred by the trauma of being raped and whatnot.

But this topic has already been discussed and I clearly recall people not wanting to go there, so I'll stop right here.

And that cake is just... I want it. BADLY.

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Thinking back on it, I guess 'intimate' wasn't the right word. I was trying to be delicate, or politically correct, or what ever! I normally try not to offend anyone. I think we can all agree that Danarius, and people like him, are sick SOB's that need a good butt whuppin'. I'll leave it at that.

Arcane, I want that cake too! Can we share? :)

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ladyshamen wrote...

Thinking back on it, I guess 'intimate' wasn't the right word. I was trying to be delicate, or politically correct, or what ever! I normally try not to offend anyone. I think we can all agree that Danarius, and people like him, are sick SOB's that need a good butt whuppin'. I'll leave it at that.

Arcane, I want that cake too! Can we share? :)


I know...darn it, now I'm about to open yet another word doc and jump to that scene just so I can write about Fenris ripping D's heart out. *rageface*

*whimpers* but I still have the rest of Act I and all of Act II to write...*TWITCH* :) 

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 04 janvier 2012 - 01:45 .


#48059
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*Twirls and enters thread*

Oh what a wonderful dayyyyyyyy! *Singing*

Ooo, Did I miss some deep conversation? *Chin/hands* *Reads* Oooo. Very deep. I'm too happy to be deep right now. Enjoy this instead!



<3

*Edited to fix hyperlink*

Modifié par Zenosazie, 04 janvier 2012 - 04:23 .


#48060
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Have any of you played the Professor Layton series? The VA for Layton sounds a lot like Fenris in the accent he has for him. Or at least I thought so.

#48061
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Obsydian wrote...

ok. so. i haven't been really reading this though i probably should. i just found this and thought it that it needed to be posted.


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http://athamaarit.de...Dance-276007191 


I think Fenris would have to take some E to do that :wizard:

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Obsydian wrote...

ok. so. i haven't been really reading this though i probably should. i just found this and thought it that it needed to be posted.


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http://athamaarit.de...Dance-276007191 


Oh my gosh. I can't look away. 

Also, marshmallows! This page is full of wonder and delight. ^_^

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ladyshamen wrote...

Thinking back on it, I guess 'intimate' wasn't the right word. I was trying to be delicate, or politically correct, or what ever! I normally try not to offend anyone. I think we can all agree that Danarius, and people like him, are sick SOB's that need a good butt whuppin'. I'll leave it at that.

Arcane, I want that cake too! Can we share? :)


Of course we can! *pushes cake towards shamen*:D

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*bursts into thread*

OH WTF GUYS!? Seriously... SERIOUSLY!! I HAVE NEVER NOR WILL I EVER AND COULD NOT EVER.. Repeat EVVVEEERRR choose the option to give Fenris away. Not even for bloody science. Science can go to hell!

LMAO... I watched it on YouTube, like once, and then I was done.. enough for me.. tears and heart freakin broken. Plus we all know my stance on the option we do not speak of.

I was stupid enough to break up with Fenris after the "night," when he left and said "I didn't want any more" option. Only because it was my horrible FOR SCIENCE quick and dirty reload where I romanced and slept with EVERYONE in one PT and ended with Fenris. I just.. he didn't deserve that, and I felt horrible for dumping ALL THE PEOPLE. So I decided to make her FOREVER ALONE, but that dialogue.. uggh.. my heart..

So yeah.. THAT.. *mumblesthinkingIcouldgiveFenrisbacktoDanariusgodammitblargglemumble*

The song Wolf and I is actually on my playlist, and I think it does fit quite well. I like it.. calm and relaxing and the lyrics are excellent for Fenris.

As for the "topic" -- it's nice to see fresh blood and new discussion, but I just haven't had the energy to chime in. I felt like I've said it all before.

I prefer the mage friendmance over everything. Over all others (personal preference), and it makes a LOT of sense to me. I find it makes more sense than the rivalry for me in a lot of ways. Gwenya (my main) is an aggro/snarky mage who friendmanced Fenris and that dynamic was the best dynamic between characters I have EVER seen. I love it. I have SoOooO many posts and reasons for it, but the bottom line is it makes sense because Fenris can learn to love the PERSON Hawke is and not the mage or the magic or the "class" Hawke is. Likewise, Hawke being an apostate mage has never really found anyone who is so anti-magic that they could actually trust, and what is more.. come to love/care for. Hawke is an apostate refugee, and that life is guarded as hell. It is a lot like Fenris's life as an escaped slave when you think about it. So yes, there are MANY more reasons why I prefer it, but that is the bottom line. The idea of going from hating magic and magisters, to actually finding a person, and a mage, that you can call a friend (the only one you've ever had) and who you respect and "can't bear the thought of living without.." well.. that's something.

As for the *cough*Intimate*cough* -- God I've said my piece on this a million times too it seems. I actually am in the camp that it was not overt sexual abuse. I do not think Fenris and Danarius had any kind of sexual intercourse, but it is more on par with what kdarnell said. The fact that Fenris was a slave, and a bodyguard, and likely suffered a severe form of Stockholm's syndrome, where the victim often feels some sort of affection for their torturer because the torturer often mixes the extreme torture with slight rewards or kindnesses. Therefore, the victim learns that these "kindnesses" are received when they do things correctly and develop some twisted form of affection when a kindness is given. A thankfulness for the missed beating, or lighter torture, or just simply letting them live one more day. This seems more akin to what Fenris would have gone through, and I doubt Danarius used him for sexual deeds.

That being said I also think that Danarius is a giant creeper, and his tone was more than a little suggestive, and I don't see it being beneath Danarius to have Fenris there with him AT ALL TIMES.. if you get my drift. Still, I just don't see the intimate suggestion as anything but a master/slave relationship. I don't see it as explicit sexual abuse.

And so then.. I now wall of texted.. bahhh... goodnight all .. more work....

#48065
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Arquen wrote...

*bursts into thread*

OH WTF GUYS!? Seriously... SERIOUSLY!! I HAVE NEVER NOR WILL I EVER AND COULD NOT EVER.. Repeat EVVVEEERRR choose the option to give Fenris away. Not even for bloody science. Science can go to hell!

LMAO... I watched it on YouTube, like once, and then I was done.. enough for me.. tears and heart freakin broken. Plus we all know my stance on the option we do not speak of.

I was stupid enough to break up with Fenris after the "night," when he left and said "I didn't want any more" option. Only because it was my horrible FOR SCIENCE quick and dirty reload where I romanced and slept with EVERYONE in one PT and ended with Fenris. I just.. he didn't deserve that, and I felt horrible for dumping ALL THE PEOPLE. So I decided to make her FOREVER ALONE, but that dialogue.. uggh.. my heart..

So yeah.. THAT.. *mumblesthinkingIcouldgiveFenrisbacktoDanariusgodammitblargglemumble*

And so then.. I now wall of texted.. bahhh... goodnight all .. more work....


*starts to pounce Arquen and sees the caps* 

Eeeeeeeeeeeek! Sorry! You're right, I just got my wires crossed or had a senior moment or something.

*hides under the couch*

(Seriously, good to see you back. :P )

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 04 janvier 2012 - 04:21 .


#48066
ladyshamen

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Thanks Arcane! ( munches happily )

We need a new topic. I just can't think of one! :(

#48067
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*Walks in*

Fenris and Anders in a hatemance. Terrible Idea, or the Best Terrible Idea ever.

*New topic lulz*

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ladyshamen wrote...

Thanks Arcane! ( munches happily )

We need a new topic. I just can't think of one! :(


Hmm. I know - let's try a Prompt! (Sorry Tankgirly - not trying to step on toes. :) )

Da Rules - the same as Tankgirly's, basically. Choose one or more of the following topics and expound on it. For Prompt fill newbies (like I once was), prompt fills can be short stories, poetry, art - whatever. :) The only requirement that I can think of is that it has to involve Fenris (of course! :) )

Edit: Please put your topic(s) in bold letters at the top. (If I do start archiving these, it will make the linking process easier. :) )

Let's put a timeline of 1 week on this, so by next Wednesday at 11:59 PM Central US time. Post it here, or link to it via Fanfic.net, DeviantArt, or whatever. :)

 If we get enough interest, maybe I can start running a blog with prompt fills like Tank used to do.

Topics:

1) Rooftop(s)
2) Dinghy
3) Attic
4) Pawprints
5) Shadow

Sound interesting?

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 04 janvier 2012 - 07:37 .


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Zenosazie wrote...

*Walks in*

Fenris and Anders in a hatemance. Terrible Idea, or the Best Terrible Idea ever.

*New topic lulz*


Oh, Maker. Fenders. 

Short and sweet, so I don't go into a rant: Not a Fan. :)

#48070
Zenosazie

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Tom Felton as Fenris, anyone? Yes....

Stupid images don't work.

Also, I may have just opened a word document and start writing for a shadows prompt. Whooohooooooo! :D

UrsulaCousland wrote...

Zenosazie wrote...

*Walks in*

Fenris and Anders in a hatemance. Terrible Idea, or the Best Terrible Idea ever.

*New topic lulz*


Oh, Maker. Fenders. 

Short and sweet, so I don't go into a rant: Not a Fan. :)


Because they'd end up beating each other into a bloody pulp? Yeah, I got that too. :P

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Zenosazie wrote...
*snip* 
Also, I may have just opened a word document and start writing for a shadows prompt. Whooohooooooo! :D


Woohoo!

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Do you think we will see Fenris again in DA3? It's not looking hopeful from this:

http://www.psu.com/B...-a012700-p0.php

And of course there is already one person on the BioWare teases Dragon Age III story details thread that has demanded he not come back.

I hope, if nothing else, we learn what happened to him. I have to admit I find the whole thing depressing.

Is he really not that well liked? I was under the impression that he was at least popular. There's tons of fanfiction about him and everyone on this thread is always showing him love. *sighs*

Poor Fen.

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#48073
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aldien wrote...

Do you think we will see Fenris again in DA3? It's not looking hopeful from this:

http://www.psu.com/B...-a012700-p0.php

And of course there is already one person on the BioWare teases Dragon Age III story details thread that has demanded he not come back.

I hope, if nothing else, we learn what happened to him. I have to admit I find the whole thing depressing.

Is he really not that well liked? I was under the impression that he was at least popular. There's tons of fanfiction about him and everyone on this thread is always showing him love. *sighs*

Poor Fen.


Maybe a cameo, al la Zevran or Alistair? That's all I really think we'll get. He's popular but I feel they'd want to move on and show us new characters.

Though if they want to give us more, there is no way I'm going to complain. <3

#48074
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Good idea Ursula! After I pay bills ( YUCK ) and deal with my kid, I'll start looking!
If they do bring him, I hope they don't make him ugly- a la Zev, Alistair, Teagan. They can make Isolde ugly tho! I can't stand her!

Sorry for the rant. I'm done now!

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Fenris was so used to being alone that spending hours at a time in the mansion didn’t faze him all that much. What he wasn’t used to was having all of these people, some he liked, some he didn’t, surrounding him. A random collection of misfits that Hawke collected on his adventures.
 
Everyone was here except for Anders, partaking in what Hawke was calling a ‘Spring cleaning party’. The mage had burst in, Orana, Bodahn and Sandal in tow, carrying trays of food and large kegs of wine. He had begun setting up the trays and fussing over placement while Fenris, bewildered, watched.
 
When asked what all this was about, the mage had straightened his shoulders and fixed him with uncharacteristically stern look.
 
“Fenris, there are rotting corpses in your hallways.” Hawke crossed his large arms. “It is disgusting and makes everything smell, so we’re having a party to clean your house.”
 
Fenris was standing in one of the nearby shadows when this was said, and his raised eyebrow was probably missed by the mage.
 
“Is that so?”
 
“Yes. Everyone will be here in about an hour.” He grinned. “We’ll have fun.”
 
Perhaps they were having fun, but Fenris was still stuck on the fact that there were so many people tromping around his home. Merril was in a distant corner, humming a soft tune while poking at the cobwebs he hadn’t bothered to destroy. Avaline and Varric were lugging skeletal remains and tossing the bones into a sack while Isabela made lewd jokes. Sebastian was doing the least amount of helping that could actually be considered helping, running a feather duster over the same section of railing over and over again.
 
Hawke, however, was downright fanatical in his mission to clean. Already he had righted fallen furniture and soaked the floors with water (Conjured in the palm of his hand, no less), and now he was on his hands and knees, scrubbing the carpet with a stiff brush. Bubbles lifted the grime from the carpet in steaks of red and black.
 
Fenris wasn’t sure what he was supposed to be doing. Everyone had chosen a job at random, it seemed.
 
“You look confused, Fenris.” Sebastian had completely abandoned his dusting and had sidled up next to him, blue eyes fixed on Hawke with a tiny smirk.
 
“I am not used to so many…People.” He tucked himself further into the shadows of the staircase, trying to decide which one of them to look at. He settled on Tarjal, whose short white hair had always amused him compared to Carver’s dark black.
 
“I see you staring at our fearless leader when he isn’t paying attention, you know.” The Prince sounded smug. “Perhaps you should put your efforts towards righting the wrongs you have committed. If you did that as intensely as you stared you would be a great force for good.” Sebastian chuckled and went back to the railing, where he began to dust a little further up. It occurred to the elf that Sebastian might have been attempting a joke.
 
All of this commotion… it seemed frivolous. Unessary. Isabela was now sitting on Hawke’s back while he scrubbed, legs crossed.
 
“I’m riding side saddle.” She giggled. “Don’t ever say I don’t pay attention to you, Hawke.”
 
“I’m starting to regret inviting you.” But he was laughing. None of them appeared to care that Fenris wasn’t helping, or that he had hidden himself in darkness and watched with wary eyes as they scrubbed, swept, and cleansed his house.
 
It went on like that for an hour before they trickled out. Merril went first, back to her hovel in the alienage. Then Varric and Isabela left together, and Sebastian not long after that. Avaline took the sack of bones and clothes with a wrinkled nose and waved goodbye.
 
Then it was only Tarjal Hawke and his insane notions.
 
“So are you going to come out of there now?”
 
Fenris blinked at him. “What?”
 
“You’ve been hiding in the corner like a frightened cat.” Hawke tossed some more cleaning supplies into a bucket, then stood and arched his back into a stretch. Fenris felt his eyes fallow the curve of Hawke’s chest.
 
“Cleaning the house was not necessary.”
 
“Says you.” He chuckled. “The place was terrible, Fenris. No one should have to live in that state.”
 
“I’ve lived in worse.”
 
Hawke didn’t seem to have an answer to that, so he stooped and picked up his bucket. “I’ll be over tomorrow to get the trays. Bodahn would have my head if I didn’t bring them back. That smirk was back on Hawke’s lips. Warmly inviting. Fenris lowered his eyes.
 
He was surprised when Hawke was suddenly there, body too close for comfort, eyes fixed on him. The darkness had stolen over his face, leaving half brightly illuminated by torchlight and the other clouded by the twisting shadows. Fenris tried to back up, but his skin was already pressed against the cold stone of the wall.
 
Hawke gazed at him intently for a moment before leaning in ever so slightly and pressing those lips against his. Fenris didn’t move. Couldn’t. If he moved then something might break this strangely enticing moment.
 
Not moving seemed to have the same effect, because Hawke broke away and moved a few steps back, to a safer distance. He smiled brightly. “See you tomorrow, Fenris.”
 
And then he left. But as he was walking through the door, Fenris felt his foot take a step forward to fallow. He blinked in surprise at how bright the place seemed.
 He stood there like that for a long while, half in the shadows and half out, wondering what the next step would be.

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.....Well that got away from me, didn't it? XD