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[Thiefy]

you guys shouldn't really pigeon hole everyone who dislikes a character though. i don't like isabella, and i only hated her after playing the game. before the game even came out i defended her against people who talked down about her because she acts and dresses like a tramp. after playing the game i just decided i don't like her personality. i think people who dislike fenris because of his views on mages have a legitimate reason not to like him. so far as looks between either character, eh, whatever, that's shallow and petty and some people are just like that. move on with life. however, not every character was made to be equally likeable for every player and that's ok.

It's nice to see someone else that go's to church, AND plays games! Gaming is not a one way ticket to Hell.

what? that's a terrible stereotype of religion.

[Annarl]

dangereusegirl wrote...

I think another problem people have with Fenris is his stance towards mages. He clearly does not trust them, and for some people, his attitude is horrible. It doesn't help that he's rude to popular characters like Anders and Merrill. If that is their favorite character to romance, then having Fenris say the things he does won't make him look very good. Admittedly, there are times where I wish I could have Hawke turn around and smack Fenris, but I always let it go.

Also, I think that there are some people that are still confused about the friend/rivalry system. They seem to be under the impression that if you have high rivalry (not very difficult if you're supporting the mages and take Fen everywhere) then he hates you. Not once have I seen evidence that would allow me to reach that conclusion, but we all view things differently.

People might not take him many places if they want to play their game with the 'ideal' party, so his rivalry/friendship bar might remain in the neutral range and you never get any of his Questioning Belief quests. Then in the end, if you side the mages, he'll refuse to help. Not endearing to a lot of people. 

Of course there are some that might have decided from the beginning that they weren't going to like him, and nothing anyone can say will change their minds. 

The same thing goes for Isabela, or any of the characters really. People see their dominate trait (For Fenris, apparently its his dislike of magic; Isabela its her 'wanton ways') and if they don't like it, they don't like the character. Frankly, I find that to be really stupid. To me, seeing all the hate for Fenris or Isabela makes me think that people don't really get it. I have seen posts on here where people say that they don't like Fenris, so they give him back to Danarius every time. 

This is where I run into problems. I'm sorry, but if you hate a character that much, that you are going to give him back to a known blood mage (one who inflicted enough pain on him that he no longer remembers the first part of his life as a slave) then you need some help. I don't care what type of Hawke you are playing as, that is a douche move. This ex-slave came to you for help and has offered to help you with anything you needed from the beginning. Yes, he does not like magic, but after the life he has led, can you really blame him? Tell me how you would act after being in the same exact circumstances as him, because I want to know. Most of us have seen the letter you get if you return Fenris to Danarius. It blows my mind to think that someone hates him that much that they will let him have his memory wiped again. It isn't even worth it finacially at that point in the game, so I don't want to hear the excuse about getting gold for doing so. 

*gets off soapbox*

To people that do not like certain characters, all I have left to say is if they bother you that much, then don't recruit them. That way, you don't ever have to put up with them. And if that character is Fenris, fine. I will be more than happy to play a walkthrough where I recruit him for every time you don't. 

Well, now that fI've finished my mini rant for the day, I think its time for me to head to church and pray for those who don't think Fenris isn't a worthy character to get to know. Alas, if only there were someone like Sebastian to keep me company at church  

I think that is responsible for about 66% of the dislike of Fenris.  People tend to feel bad or sorry for the mages in this game, heck I do, they don't like how mages are treated or play as a mage and therefore have more empathy for them.  And along comes Fenris with his dislike and distrust of mages in general and he becomes a beacon to focus the player negative feelings about how mages are treated.  A lot of players don't stopped to think about what he has been through and how it would naturally affect his outlook. They fail to have empathy for him.   As for whining,I mean he doesn't "whine", I hate using that word because it isn't whining, anymore than the other NPCs. He's trying to talk to Hawke and express himself which isn't easy for him.

 As for the ainme thing, heck you could say that about most of the characters in this game (especially the elves) with their big eyes and elaborate hairstyles.  To me the most anime is Flemeth and the evil queen in Sleeping Beauty.  But that's me.  

Thief- of -Hearts, you are right not everyone will like every character, some will just get on your nerves...for me its Jack in ME2, I don't hate her but she just didn't click with me.  But the difference with Fenris, in some cases not all of course, is the vitriol directed at Fenris.

Modifié par omearaee, 08 janvier 2012 - 04:45 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

(if anything I write comes up as weird or sounds wrong in your head, dont worry I just suvk at syntax and grammar)
Its really hard to NOT pigeonhole some people because the bad eggs speak out the most. This coming from a person who was very against xbox because of fratboys and *ahem* douchebag friends playing it. hell if it wasnt for my husband to try getting me into mass effect or giving halo a try, I frankly would be in the dark about bioware.

But yes that is a good point of characters slowly becoming unlikable towards the end based on that person's prerogative. Still there are times even I dislike Fenris during the game I just want my Hawke to slowly turn around and go sarcastically "Really. Really?"

[ladyshamen]

Thief, I'm sorry! I live in a small town with a lot of close minded people. I've been asked more than once if I've been in prison because I have tattoos.( I haven't ) I was just wanting to say it was nice that not every one thinks that gaming is bad.
I really didn't mean to offend!

[Thiefy]

ladyshamen wrote...

Thief, I'm sorry! I live in a small town with a lot of close minded people. I've been asked more than once if I've been in prison because I have tattoos.( I haven't ) I was just wanting to say it was nice that not every one thinks that gaming is bad.
I really didn't mean to offend!

It's alright, don't worry. I live in a relatively small town too and get an unpleasant end from them as well. Since I'm mixed ethinicity (mom is asian) i get a lot of "where are you from?", "how long have you lived here", "wow you speak english well", "oh that's nice, I know a person from [insert some other asian nationality expecting i would know about that culture]". And those aren't even the creepy ones. Yellow fever guys are the worst.

On the flip side since I do have my faith, I get comments from people who dislike religion but think they are being more open minded by putting down any church. it's almost a no win situation ;; good for growing thicker skin and better diplomacy skills anyway.

I'm not really offended so no worries. Just wanted to point out that it's not really a fair assessment of religious people. The loudest ones always get the attention but they don't speak for the majority. Westboro Baptist Church would be an excellent example of that.

[CuriousArtemis]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

 BUt there is one thing I had to ask since you brought up Federick Douglas? Do YOU think of Fenris as a black man or a really taned man who lived in hotter climates?

Douglass, yes, I love that essay.  I hadn't read it as a student either; I taught it to my American lit class a couple times.  It's fantastic.  It makes you angry, proud, furiuos, upset.  It's hard to sum up your feelings after reading that essay.  But you know what I mean.

As for Fenris, I've never thought of him as Black.  He does have tanned skin, but half the time it looks pale peachy in certain light.  We would have to ask ourselves ... what makes a person Black?  Is it heritage? Appearance? The Black experience?  Fenris would only possibly have the last one.  But when I taught Douglass, I did of course talk about the practical implications of being Black in the US at this point in time; we look at Jefferson's disgusting comments about African slaves, etc. so we see how white people were horribly prejudiced.  But mostly we look at Douglass as a man.  His autobiography also bears shades of Emerson with its emphasis on self-reliance.  And I think there's a lot of that in Fenris, but to me, he's even more broken than Douglass was.  Douglass never lost his memory, and as a kid he was able to learn to read.  The man freed himself basically.  He was amazing.  With Fenris, I get the sense that if Hawke hadn't come along, thing were only going to end badly for him  And take into account that Fenris' last quest is titled "Alone" ... how depressing is that

I wonder, is there a problem with making white-looking Fenris go through the Black slave experience?  Should Fenris have looked more Black?  Would be weird since DA doesn't really have Black people in it ... at least not very many.  There's the young guard just before you fight the crazed blonde elf.  Some say Isabela's Black.  She looks anything from Northern African to Turkish to Indian though.  DA needs to give us more characters of color =\\  And forget Asian and Hispanic-looking people.  Where are they in DA??

omearaee wrote...

I think that is responsible for about 66% of the dislike of Fenris.  People tend to feel bad or sorry for the mages in this game, heck I do, they don't like how mages are treated or play as a mage and therefore have more empathy for them.  And along comes Fenris with his dislike and distrust of mages in general and he becomes a beacon to focus the player negative feelings about how mages are treated.  A lot of players don't stopped to think about what he has been through and how it would naturally affect his outlook. They fail to have empathy for him.   

What frustrates me about people who make that argument is that the writers CLEARLY made GREAT efforts to show that Fenris struggles with his perception of mages.  When you enter the Gallows and Fenris hesitantly looks around and admits he's never been here before ... it's chilling.  He is an ex-slave, entering an ex-slave compound.  The man is clearly conflicted.  In fact, I'd say he even redirects some of his own innate fears onto Hawke or Hawke's companions because he asks if it's safe for THEM to be here.  Fenris may not like magic, but he cares about people who happen to be mages.  People also say he hates Anders and Merrill.  Also ridiculous!  He finds Anders annoying (understandable lol) but a lot of his banters with Anders start out civilly enough.  It's usually Anders who takes things to the extreme (but that is just part of his personality ... this isn't the Anders thread, so I won't wax poetic about him, too lol).  As for Merrill, he gets along with her well enough and even suffers her teasing from time to time.  When he calls her a monster, it's a terrible moment for him; it showcases this prejudice that he just can't seem to let go.  He is not a perfect person.

Ah, just so frustrating, but the people who criticize Fenris I think are just not the sort who would get him or anyone like him anyway, so small loss.  I honestly think all the characters in DA2 are amazing and written with such love and care that you'd have to be ... well, there'd have to be something missing in you not to like them.  Maybe I'm just someone who loves ... people in general lol The good and the bad.  And all DA2 Companions are made up equally of both.

[Ghost_Nappa]

motomotogirl wrote...

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

 BUt there is one thing I had to ask since you brought up Federick Douglas? Do YOU think of Fenris as a black man or a really taned man who lived in hotter climates?

Douglass, yes, I love that essay.  I hadn't read it as a student either; I taught it to my American lit class a couple times.  It's fantastic.  It makes you angry, proud, furiuos, upset.  It's hard to sum up your feelings after reading that essay.  But you know what I mean.

As for Fenris, I've never thought of him as Black.  He does have tanned skin, but half the time it looks pale peachy in certain light.  We would have to ask ourselves ... what makes a person Black?  Is it heritage? Appearance? The Black experience?  Fenris would only possibly have the last one.  But when I taught Douglass, I did of course talk about the practical implications of being Black in the US at this point in time; we look at Jefferson's disgusting comments about African slaves, etc. so we see how white people were horribly prejudiced.  But mostly we look at Douglass as a man.  His autobiography also bears shades of Emerson with its emphasis on self-reliance.  And I think there's a lot of that in Fenris, but to me, he's even more broken than Douglass was.  Douglass never lost his memory, and as a kid he was able to learn to read.  The man freed himself basically.  He was amazing.  With Fenris, I get the sense that if Hawke hadn't come along, thing were only going to end badly for him  And take into account that Fenris' last quest is titled "Alone" ... how depressing is that

I wonder, is there a problem with making white-looking Fenris go through the Black slave experience?  Should Fenris have looked more Black?  Would be weird since DA doesn't really have Black people in it ... at least not very many.  There's the young guard just before you fight the crazed blonde elf.  Some say Isabela's Black.  She looks anything from Northern African to Turkish to Indian though.  DA needs to give us more characters of color =  And forget Asian and Hispanic-looking people.  Where are they in DA??

omearaee wrote...

I think that is responsible for about 66% of the dislike of Fenris.  People tend to feel bad or sorry for the mages in this game, heck I do, they don't like how mages are treated or play as a mage and therefore have more empathy for them.  And along comes Fenris with his dislike and distrust of mages in general and he becomes a beacon to focus the player negative feelings about how mages are treated.  A lot of players don't stopped to think about what he has been through and how it would naturally affect his outlook. They fail to have empathy for him.   

What frustrates me about people who make that argument is that the writers CLEARLY made GREAT efforts to show that Fenris struggles with his perception of mages.  When you enter the Gallows and Fenris hesitantly looks around and admits he's never been here before ... it's chilling.  He is an ex-slave, entering an ex-slave compound.  The man is clearly conflicted.  In fact, I'd say he even redirects some of his own innate fears onto Hawke or Hawke's companions because he asks if it's safe for THEM to be here.  Fenris may not like magic, but he cares about people who happen to be mages.  People also say he hates Anders and Merrill.  Also ridiculous!  He finds Anders annoying (understandable lol) but a lot of his banters with Anders start out civilly enough.  It's usually Anders who takes things to the extreme (but that is just part of his personality ... this isn't the Anders thread, so I won't wax poetic about him, too lol).  As for Merrill, he gets along with her well enough and even suffers her teasing from time to time.  When he calls her a monster, it's a terrible moment for him; it showcases this prejudice that he just can't seem to let go.  He is not a perfect person.

Ah, just so frustrating, but the people who criticize Fenris I think are just not the sort who would get him or anyone like him anyway, so small loss.  I honestly think all the characters in DA2 are amazing and written with such love and care that you'd have to be ... well, there'd have to be something missing in you not to like them.  Maybe I'm just someone who loves ... people in general lol The good and the bad.  And all DA2 Companions are made up equally of both.

Well momo I a little too blunt to say I can take people, both fictional and nonfictional, to a certain degree before they reach "your dead to me" zone. Which is a shame for Fenboy because I was { } close to not liking him until knowing he's voiced by mr. emery and looking at his story from another perspective....that didnt make me fee chills of the black experience.

Also reason I asked on...account of his skin tone is a simple fact I cant find enough characters that are black and dont make me pull my locks out of my scalp from some sort of personality stereotype, that my brain just hones in on. I mean it cant be that bad if I want to see a black man in a game that doesnt remind of...wow almost got coloqial for second. Weird hang ups from being a black female gamer.

Back to Fenris comes in a close second due to his slave experience, but paint me foghorn leghorn and call me shallow his skin makes me think of men from Sicily or down south in 'Hotlanta' and Lousianna. Which is oddly refreshing to see for me....then again it could be just the shallow part that screams in my head "Dat Ass!" When he's on screen.
Weird how my train of thoughts go on random subjects.

[CuriousArtemis]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Also reason I asked on...account of his skin tone is a simple fact I cant find enough characters that are black and dont make me pull my locks out of my scalp from some sort of personality stereotype, that my brain just hones in on. I mean it cant be that bad if I want to see a black man in a game that doesnt remind of...wow almost got coloqial for second. Weird hang ups from being a black female gamer.

About Louisiana, do you mean Creole?  I'm from Louisiana.  I never thought of Fenris as Creole, but the skin tone fits.  P.S. Most Creoles don't think of themselves as Black or white.  They are Creole.

But I know what you mean.  High fantasy has been the white man's playground since Tolkien.  And when Black people do appear, they're often "evil" (like they are in Tolkien).  Not a big surprise that DA followed the stereotypical high fantasy land that is basically a "fantasy" version of Western Europe.  We are even told that certain countries in Thedas are "like" Western countries in our world, i.e. Orlais is France.  And I guess since this is "medieval" France and not contemporary France, which of course now has people of all races, not just white, then Orlais and other DA countries are primarily white.  But I'm sorry, I don't buy it.  You can have high fantasy and still have all kinds of different skin tones and features (and not play to stereotypes, like you were suggesting).  It's frustrating.

I haven't played ME so I wonder if that game is different.  In my opinion, futuristic games should have more people of color than white people in them, but that's often not the case.  The protagonist, at least, is almost always white.  (And almost always male, of course.  And straight.)

I can't believe you almost didn't like Fenris 

[Ghost_Nappa]

motomotogirl wrote...

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Also reason I asked on...account of his skin tone is a simple fact I cant find enough characters that are black and dont make me pull my locks out of my scalp from some sort of personality stereotype, that my brain just hones in on. I mean it cant be that bad if I want to see a black man in a game that doesnt remind of...wow almost got coloqial for second. Weird hang ups from being a black female gamer.

About Louisiana, do you mean Creole?  I'm from Louisiana.  I never thought of Fenris as Creole, but the skin tone fits.  P.S. Most Creoles don't think of themselves as Black or white.  They are Creole.

But I know what you mean.  High fantasy has been the white man's playground since Tolkien.  And when Black people do appear, they're often "evil" (like they are in Tolkien).  Not a big surprise that DA followed the stereotypical high fantasy land that is basically a "fantasy" version of Western Europe.  We are even told that certain countries in Thedas are "like" Western countries in our world, i.e. Orlais is France.  And I guess since this is "medieval" France and not contemporary France, which of course now has people of all races, not just white, then Orlais and other DA countries are primarily white.  But I'm sorry, I don't buy it.  You can have high fantasy and still have all kinds of different skin tones and features (and not play to stereotypes, like you were suggesting).  It's frustrating.

I haven't played ME so I wonder if that game is different.  In my opinion, futuristic games should have more people of color than white people in them, but that's often not the case.  The protagonist, at least, is almost always white.  (And almost always male, of course.  And straight.)

I can't believe you almost didn't like Fenris 

Heh well I know what to call my grandmama when I visit this spring break...ooh she will be pissed. Then again I have heard her once threaten to smack the black off me if I didnt go to church or clean up. My ignorance knows no bounds in what to be labeled since I am part creole, but considered myself black...might be my culture association growing up.
As for high fantasy I couldnt really get into it due tot he european setting. Granted it is the dominated setting it sorta turned me off from trying to branch out into novels in general...which I really regret in my youth. Although if it had anything art related in history or mythos I was all over it. Story and acharacters, meh. (was a huuuuuuge mythology nerd. Still am but art history is slowly taking over Especially Hindu art involving Siva& Parvati *fans self*)

And yes moto....I didn't like him at first personality wise and it took 1 playthrough to go from curious, like, cuddle, nosebleed at the thought of him with fem!hawke. Then again if he wasnt voiced by Mr. Emery I might of just tolerated him...dear god I am shallow. But I cant unhear that voice Ung!

[ladyshamen]

There's so much I'd like to say, but I won't try. There seems to be a 'short' between my brain and my hands when it comes down to putting my thoughts into words. I could draw how I feel all day. That said, I'm glad we're cool Thief! The 'haters' do seem to be the loudest. Ghost and motomoto, I agree with a lot of what your saying. I'm playing ME2 also and one of the main romance partners to pick from is a good looking ( IMO ) black man. In fact, that's who my lady is going for.
Now onto something Fenris! I'm playing MotA with him for the first time. Just got started good and got some dialog from him that was like : "you need to be careful who you help. One day you'll find a sword in your back". In my mind that translates to ' I care about you, and I'm worried about your safety'. I thought it was sweet!

PS. motomoto, in ME2 the skin tones, eye shapes, ect., let you play as something besides a white guy! ( or woman)

[dangereusegirl]

ladyshamen wrote...
dangereusegirl - It's nice to see someone else that go's to church, AND plays games! Gaming is not a one way ticket to Hell.

I admit, I did do a double take when I saw that.  It is a bit of a sterotype towards religion, one that sadly gets reinforced daily. Playing games certainly won't send a person to Hell any more than reading Harry Potter will. Now if it takes up too much of your time, to the point where God isn't as important, then we run into problems. Fortunately, I am quite able to turn off the computer when I need to. 

My grandfather is my pastor, which makes things interesting when it comes to discussing certain topics. I once tried to have a conversation about the Chantry in DA compared to modern religion. I think I confused him a bit  I tried asking my grandmother for a game for Christmas, but she said that I was too old for that XD. I did point out to her that there are plenty of people on here who work full time jobs and raise children and still manage to play games. She didn't seem that convinced sadly. Oh well...

I don't really see Fenris in terms of the way slavery was in the United States. I don't really see him as Creole either, but that's because I'm not really exposed to too many of them. I'm only one state over, but the only people I see from LA are relatives, and they aren't Creole. Since Dragon Age seems to be set similar to European countries, that's how I tend to view the characters. For Fenris I kind of see him as being Mediterranean. Which is probably opposite of what he probably should be, but whatever.

I do wish there were more variety in skintones in games. Off the top of my head, I can remember only two 'black' characters in DAO, and they were very minor roles that you could ignore if you wanted. I like how in DA2 they made your family's looks dependent on the preset that you chose. I'd have liked that in DAO, since I thought it'd be very odd for the Couslands to have a child that looked African/Asian/Hispanic when no one else looked that. Though it would make it fun for Eleanor to explain that  

As to the voice, well....it definitely doesn't hurt 

[CuriousArtemis]

ladyshamen wrote...

Ghost and motomoto, I agree with a lot of what your saying. I'm playing ME2 also and one of the main romance partners to pick from is a good looking ( IMO ) black man.

Well, if he's a LI, I'd HOPE he's good-looking, black, white, or otherwise 

Unfortunately, with DA, I don't think we will see Black main characters, or a dark-skinned race because they are sadly (seemingly) sticking to that Western European high fantasy model.

FENRIS FENRIS FENRIS ... back on track ... I was dog- and house-sitting at my sister's this weekend (started Wednesday, ended today), and my brother-in-law also has DA2.  So what did I do?  Started up a playthrough, Warrior M!Hawke and friendmances Fenris, of course.  (Haven't played a warrior since my very first confused and misguided playthrough).  I knew I wasn't going to have time to finish the game, so last night I stayed up as late as I could, my eyes barely open, struggling ... until the Questioning Beliefs act after "Alone," just so I could see the make-up scene XD

That's committment for ya 

[Ghost_Nappa]

motomotogirl wrote...

ladyshamen wrote...

Ghost and motomoto, I agree with a lot of what your saying. I'm playing ME2 also and one of the main romance partners to pick from is a good looking ( IMO ) black man.

Well, if he's a LI, I'd HOPE he's good-looking, black, white, or otherwise 

Unfortunately, with DA, I don't think we will see Black main characters, or a dark-skinned race because they are sadly (seemingly) sticking to that Western European high fantasy model.

FENRIS FENRIS FENRIS ... back on track ... I was dog- and house-sitting at my sister's this weekend (started Wednesday, ended today), and my brother-in-law also has DA2.  So what did I do?  Started up a playthrough, Warrior M!Hawke and friendmances Fenris, of course.  (Haven't played a warrior since my very first confused and misguided playthrough).  I knew I wasn't going to have time to finish the game, so last night I stayed up as late as I could, my eyes barely open, struggling ... until the Questioning Beliefs act after "Alone," just so I could see the make-up scene XD

That's committment for ya 

Im sure your brother in law thought what I would of thought..."Whose been playing my dragon age2?" Naughty of you to do that, did you even ask permission or was Fenris all the permission you needed?( Also that LI in me2 the black guy named jacob...for women only sorry. moto if you want to  play message tag on that let me know.)

My committment must not be vary high....I cant romance Fenris as a guy. Don't know why I cant see hawke kissing a guy..oh wait I know. Cause my male hawke bang anything including meredith. especially Meredith.

Heres something I know IM not the only one to think...if we could customize our allies armor like in DA:O...who here would have Fenris run around in his smalls with their Hawke? Be honest now. *raises hand*

Modifié par Ghost_Nappa, 09 janvier 2012 - 03:08 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Heres something I know IM not the only one to think...if we could customize our allies armor like in DA:O...who here would have Fenris run around in his smalls with their Hawke? Be honest now. *raises hand*

:lol:

Actually, no.  I would make Anders do that, though 

Fenris, I want to see him in something nicer than his ugly spiky armor.  There is that famous modder who puts up all the YouTube videos ... she made a beautiful robe/jacket for Fenris that I just envy like no other.  I would love for Fenris to have a proper cloak or jacket.  He deserves it.

You can tell I play M!Hawke x Fenris, because for me Fenris is the pretty one and Hawke is the STUD 

[Ghost_Nappa]

Moto I can say I am not surprised...although I wonder if any modders have a kilt option. *waggles eyebrows* Oh how I envy as well the computer savy.

[ladyshamen]

Ghost, yes the VOICE! He could talk to me about nothing and I would still listen!

motomoto, something like this? I put this on Fenris in some of my PT's.

[mythlover20]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

ladyshamen wrote...

Ghost and motomoto, I agree with a lot of what your saying. I'm playing ME2 also and one of the main romance partners to pick from is a good looking ( IMO ) black man.

Well, if he's a LI, I'd HOPE he's good-looking, black, white, or otherwise 

Unfortunately, with DA, I don't think we will see Black main characters, or a dark-skinned race because they are sadly (seemingly) sticking to that Western European high fantasy model.

FENRIS FENRIS FENRIS ... back on track ... I was dog- and house-sitting at my sister's this weekend (started Wednesday, ended today), and my brother-in-law also has DA2.  So what did I do?  Started up a playthrough, Warrior M!Hawke and friendmances Fenris, of course.  (Haven't played a warrior since my very first confused and misguided playthrough).  I knew I wasn't going to have time to finish the game, so last night I stayed up as late as I could, my eyes barely open, struggling ... until the Questioning Beliefs act after "Alone," just so I could see the make-up scene XD

That's committment for ya 

Im sure your brother in law thought what I would of thought..."Whose been playing my dragon age2?" Naughty of you to do that, did you even ask permission or was Fenris all the permission you needed?( Also that LI in me2 the black guy named jacob...for women only sorry. moto if you want to  play message tag on that let me know.)

My committment must not be vary high....I cant romance Fenris as a guy. Don't know why I cant see hawke kissing a guy..oh wait I know. Cause my male hawke bang anything including meredith. especially Meredith.

Heres something I know IM not the only one to think...if we could customize our allies armor like in DA:O...who here would have Fenris run around in his smalls with their Hawke? Be honest now. *raises hand*

Um... no. I would dress him in something stylish, like that photo above. But then I have DA2 on my PS3. I don't have a gaming computer yet and DA2 won't run well on my laptop, which incidentally I named Alistair.

Also, while Jacob is very good looking, he is also kinda boring. His characterisation is actually rather flat, if you know what I mean. I usually end up romancing the aliens.

Oh, and hello again, everyone.

Modifié par mythlover20, 09 janvier 2012 - 03:50 .

[ladyshamen]

In my head I like to think Hawke bought him that outfit! The pre-romance has blue feathers.
This is my first play-through in ME2. I thought my Shep would pick Jacob becuase he seems trustworthy. And handsome.

[CuriousArtemis]

ladyshamen wrote...

motomoto, something like this? I put this on Fenris in some of my PT's.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! If only I could dress him like this on my 360 

[ladyshamen]

That's the main reason I like to play on my PC. To me modding makes a game more personal. Almost nothing in my game looks like the 'vanilla' version!

[Ghost_Nappa]

Hmmm do you do the modding on your games off steam or buy the pc copy? I needs to find me a samurai outfit for Fenris with that blade of Archon.

[ladyshamen]

I download the mods from Dragon Age Nexus. Look here:

http://www.dragonagenexus.com

You can find all kinds of goodies there!

[Ghost_Nappa]

Hmmmmm oh man and I start classes in a week and I only have enough money to buy supplies versus a new PC...or should I turn my birthday gift into a gaming laptop...the things I do for my obsessions.

[ladyshamen]

YES! Finished MotA. Fenris is so sweet! He's really very concerned about Hawke .And he is nice to Bethany. I love how worried he sounded. And did any one else notice we didn't have a ToP? I'm really too tired to search for new art, so I'm going to be lazy and stick a screen shot up. Sorry!

[mythlover20]

It's a beautiful screenshot. Did you mod Hawke to look like an elf, or character swap, cause that looks like his sister. Which kinda disturbs me.

I really need to get DA2 for PC. I need to get a PC I can run DA2 on. I hate that mods aren't available on the consoles.