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[aldien]

renjility wrote...

@ kemz: wow, you've obviously thought a lot about it all. I'm impressed. All very dramatic and tragic, hehe. And quite complicated as well. I doubt that's what happend in David Gaider's mind, but that doesn't matter.
I'll take a look at your story.

@ aldien: I knew you didn't click the link back then, haha! What Fenris is thinking..? Well... the title of the image is "lusting over Hawke", soooo.... I don't think he has an itch. Or a different kind of itch... never mind. xD I have never known something like that could actually be portrayed in such a sexy way... Alright, now I have deserved my time in the perve corner. xD

I don't think you have read my story already. It's still a bit new, I guess, a few months old. Still in progress as well.

I am so glad I clicked that link. *fans self* It is tey hawt. <3 I think you are corrupting me now and that takes some doing. ROFL... I was just joking about the what is he thinking. He's thinking about me of course.

I have never known something like that could actually be portrayed in such a sexy way

I totally agree. Usually that particular errr subject matter is not the sexiest thing in the world. But... oh my. My husband happened to see it. The bastard was walking by while I was perving. He did a double take and then sighed. He suddenly doesn't like elves very much. I can't imagine why.

Yeppers, I need to read your story. I am way behind but I will catch up.

This screenshot is by equinexus. I know it's a small one but I think it's quite nice. Mmmmm those lips.

Modifié par aldien, 12 février 2012 - 12:36 .

[aldien]

Ser Bard wrote...

Unpopular opinions, party of one.

I'm going to go against most of the thread here but my headcanon is my head canon so here goes-

If everyone agreed it would get really boring around here. It keeps things fresh.


Re: The wall slam kiss
IMO Fenris is passive when it comes to sex because of lack of experience, abuses and his general life as slave, maybe he's even naturally a bit of a sub but regardless it's up to Hawke to move them out of the limbo
they've been in for 3 years. I agree that's it's too much too fast, and that's why they go back into limbo for another 3 years, but left up to Fenris though they never would have got out of the awkward flirting stage.

It depends on the choice you make in the romance. If you let Fenris go he will come back and initiate the romance, which, imo is moving them forwards, well if Hawke agrees to get it on. Then Hawke wall slams him. My biggest complaint is that it looks strange in comparison to the kiss they just shared. Like Moto said, I wish they had created different reactions based on Hawke's personality.

Until Fenris gets some confidence and experience, like after he and Hawke get back together or he spends the night with Isabela in Act 3, he's happy to be lead rather than lead. Romanticism aside Isabela is the ideal choice for him to figure out what *he* wants sex-wise and there's no-one who can teach him the tricks of the bedroom like she can.

I don't think sex is really on his mind for those three years. I'm sure he thinks about it, but he's trying to figure out his life and where he fits in. I hope I don't sound antagonistic. There always seems to be worth issues, which is understandable.

I think Isabela would be the ideal choice to help him figure out how many positions are possible, but I honestly believe one of the best things about being with someone is discovering each other's like and dislikes. Why can't he figure out what he wants sex-wise with Hawke? Would it not be more meaningful if they are in a romance? And whatever he learns from Isabela isn't going necessarily fly with Hawke. She/he may have completely different preferences.





RE:Verania, Denarius and the boon

On the basis of absolutely nothing I believe that mages with elven blood have a harder time proving themselves in Tevinter, they are the business and military women of Thedas. By which I mean they need to be twice as
powerful magically and ten times more ruthless and Denarius is. Too prove it he created a lyrium warrior.

That is an interesting idea and I really like it. I only discovered today that I believe Danarius is half-elven. I never looked at the guy unless I had to. So, this theory is excellent.



What use would Tavinter have for free slaves? Whatever Verania may or may not have felt for her brother before the boon would quickly be lost as she and her mother starved and struggled to find work completely abandoned by Leto. I don't like Verania but I can understand why she became the bitter, out for herself hag we meet in Alone.

Do you think Fenris decided to compete for the boon without consulting his mother and sister? Because if they agreed to it then Varania has only herself to blame. Just a thought.

Modifié par aldien, 12 février 2012 - 12:32 .

[kemz19691]

aldien wrote...
I am so glad I clicked that link. *fans self* It is tey hawt. <3 I think you are corrupting me now and that takes some doing. ROFL... I was just joking about the what is he thinking. He's thinking about me of course.

I have never known something like that could actually be portrayed in such a sexy way

I totally agree. Usually that particular errr subject matter is not the sexiest thing in the world. But... oh my. My husband happened to see it. The bastard was walking by while I was perving. He did a double take and then sighed. He suddenly doesn't like elves very much. I can't imagine why.
Yeppers, I need to read your story. I am way behind but I will catch up.

This screenshot is by equinexus. I know it's a small one but I think it's quite nice. Mmmmm those lips.

Aldien, when I first saw this image, I was reminded of how tragic his life was. Having no will of his own - living to please his master only thinking about what the next hour would bring.  Maybe I'm reading more into his eyes than the artists intended, but he just seems gated to me.  Years and  years of attending to someone else - only receiving abuse in return.

Maybe it was all too fast for Fenris - here was someone loving him when he hadn't had any remembered experience of love.  Here was someone giving him pleasure when everyone else just gave him pain or threatened to.

I hope they do a spin off game on Fenris. Or a small film dedicated to him.

[Dutchess]

Aww, has the activity of this thread ceased again?

Fenris is not pleased.



One of my screenies. Sorry for the subs.

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

Aww, has the activity of this thread ceased again?

Fenris is not pleased.



One of my screenies. Sorry for the subs.

I've never seen him so annoyed. What did you to him????


Kemz, that picture is a screenshot from the game. I think the person put some sort of filter over it, but they didn't create it. I thought it was an intense look, but I can see how it comes across as contemplative.


I refuse to let the thread die! *stomps foot* I suspect it's just quiet because of the weekend.

Let's see... I have so many questions concerning Fenris. I hold back because I don't want to spam the thread with my incessant Fenris worship.

So, here's a question: If you decide to forgive Fenris he says something like: If I could go back I would have stayed. Then he says: nothing could be worse than thought of living without you.

So, do you think it was going to be a permanent living arrangement?

Hear me out. If you romance Anders and reject him, he says: but we talked about living together. It made me believe that maybe Hawke or Anders was adamant that once they had sex then they would live together. It was obviously a big deal to Anders. I'm wondering if maybe Hawke and Fenris had the same discussion? 

I know Fenris never moves in, but I think that is more to do with the fact that they don't make up until Act III, by which time, the story takes a dramatic turn. Also, you can get Isabela her ship in Act III before the make up scene with Fenris, yet when Isabela asks Fenris to join her crew he says: The crew of you nonexistent ship? I think adding Fenris to your house by ACT III would have been too complicated because of how the story was playing out at that point. Even when you get back with Fenris no one acknowledges it. He does at the end, but none of the companions say a thing.

The reason I'm mentioning that, is because, it may be inferred that Hawke and Fenris are living together after they make up. If Varric and Aveline speak with Fenris instead of Isabela, Aveline states that she can no longer keep the Senechal from noticing that he is squatting in the mansion. So, Fenris will have to move whether he wants to or not.

[CuriousArtemis]

I think it was laziness on the part of the devs to not have Fenris move in with Hawke. Or let me rephrase that; they were pressed for time and this aspect of Fenris' romance was not developed.

Once Fenris and Hawke make up, there is absolutely no reason why Fenris would remain in that house. You can't tell me his character arch is so stymied that he will NEVER EVER move in with another person because of his ex-slave status. Yes, I get it; Fenris is a former slave so he cherishes his freedom and wishes to live off of no man or woman. But moving in with the one you've fallen deeply in love with, one who loves you deeply back, is something would come naturally, eventually.

Eventually, yes, they would move in together. If Fenris was persistent in his refusal, my Hawke would have purchased that damend mansion and moved in WITH him. My more diplomatic Hawke would probably have suggested purchasing a place together. My post-game dream for them is to live in a quiet cottage together in the countryside anyway, away from all that mage/templar stuff

[Ghost_Nappa]

Im with you on the stymie part...if anything they could of done so much more in this game. Say for instance the day to night switch I always wished there was different activities going on in the house based on qhich quest was started, done, currently on and how far you are in each chapter.

Hell I would of loved if said LI moved in they are in different parts of the house doing whatever it is they do. Say Anders in the kitchen, Merril in the foyer, ISabella in the wine storage, Fenris in the library or armory...oh and more rooms in the damn house.
Hell I would of liked after they rehook up to find Fenris holding his poker games in his own mancave. Or moto's idea seem better..you move in with Fenris.

Still its a lot of coulda's what ifs and whys jammed into one....*Sigh* this is why you spend 4-5 years on a game.

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

I've never seen him so annoyed. What did you to him????

Lets see... I have killed Hadriana and Danarius, supported the mages throughout the game, I am a mage... and I have made Fenris fall in love with me.:innocent: What would he be pissed about? 

Hehe, that screenshot is from the beginning of his QB in act 3, with a rivalry relationship.

[aldien]

motomotogirl wrote...

I think it was laziness on the part of the devs to not have Fenris move in with Hawke. Or let me rephrase that; they were pressed for time and this aspect of Fenris' romance was not developed.

Once Fenris and Hawke make up, there is absolutely no reason why Fenris would remain in that house. You can't tell me his character arch is so stymied that he will NEVER EVER move in with another person because of his ex-slave status. Yes, I get it; Fenris is a former slave so he cherishes his freedom and wishes to live off of no man or woman. But moving in with the one you've fallen deeply in love with, one who loves you deeply back, is something would come naturally, eventually.

Eventually, yes, they would move in together. If Fenris was persistent in his refusal, my Hawke would have purchased that damend mansion and moved in WITH him. My more diplomatic Hawke would probably have suggested purchasing a place together. My post-game dream for them is to live in a quiet cottage together in the countryside anyway, away from all that mage/templar stuff

I totally agree with the laziness on the devs part and I'm not afraid to say it. Yes, I'm certain they were under a deadline, but I also know how much can be achieved once the engine is up and running. Don't get me wrong, DAII is complex in its own right. But it could have been updated after release if need be. Content could have been added for free. I don't think anyone was going to be upset if they released a patch that allowed Fenris to move in during Act III.

Sorry, novel follows.

Once Fenris and Hawke make up, there is absolutely no reason why Fenris
would remain in that house. You can't tell me his character arch is so
stymied that he will NEVER EVER move in with another person because of
his ex-slave status. Yes, I get it; Fenris is a former slave so he
cherishes his freedom and wishes to live off of no man or woman.

But
moving in with the one you've fallen deeply in love with, one who loves
you deeply back, is something would come naturally, eventually.

That was beautifully said.

I absolutely 100% agree with this. What's the point in living by yourself if you end up feeling lonely most of the time? Fenris feels alone. He says so. Surely, after six years of being his own man he has sowed his oats and has had his freedom. But does living with Hawke mean he loses freedom? I'm married but everything is shared. I don't feel like I'm living off someone. I feel like I love someone and want to be with them.

If it was a big deal to him I'd either buy his mansion, like you say, and move in with him (the way you said it made me giggle) or I would hand over the deed to my mansion and put it in both names or hell! I'd give it to him. He could pay me in installments. Fenris has helped Hawke achieve their status. All the companions have. Yeah, he owes a debt, but come on... how many times does he have to repay it? The mansion is part his as far as I am concerned.

My post-game dream for them is to live in a quiet cottage together in
the countryside anyway, away from all that mage/templar stuff :

That is a wonderful dream. I hope they don't ruin it by stating what Hawke and their LI is doing in DA III.

Modifié par aldien, 13 février 2012 - 01:19 .

[kemz19691]

motomotogirl wrote...

I think it was laziness on the part of the devs to not have Fenris move in with Hawke. Or let me rephrase that; they were pressed for time and this aspect of Fenris' romance was not developed.

Once Fenris and Hawke make up, there is absolutely no reason why Fenris would remain in that house. You can't tell me his character arch is so stymied that he will NEVER EVER move in with another person because of his ex-slave status. Yes, I get it; Fenris is a former slave so he cherishes his freedom and wishes to live off of no man or woman. But moving in with the one you've fallen deeply in love with, one who loves you deeply back, is something would come naturally, eventually.

Eventually, yes, they would move in together. If Fenris was persistent in his refusal, my Hawke would have purchased that damend mansion and moved in WITH him. My more diplomatic Hawke would probably have suggested purchasing a place together. My post-game dream for them is to live in a quiet cottage together in the countryside anyway, away from all that mage/templar stuff

Motomotogirl, I have a hard time seeing Fenris as "Poppa Fenris" or even 'wedded'.  IMO, since he was turned into a weapon, family planning isn't on his horizon.

[gingergen]

Hullo! I've been gone for a couple of days. Catching up!

Ser Bard wrote...

Unpopular opinions, party of one.

I'm going to go against most of the thread here but my headcanon is my head canon so here goes-

Re: The wall slam kiss
IMO Fenris is passive when it comes to sex because of lack of experience, abuses and his general life as slave, maybe he's even naturally a bit of a sub but regardless it's up to Hawke to move them out of the limbo
they've been in for 3 years. I agree that's it's too much too fast, and that's why they go back into limbo for another 3 years, but left up to Fenris though they never would have got out of the awkward flirting stage.

...

As for the face he makes when Hawke pushes him against the wall (slam makes it sound much rougher than it actually is) he doesn't look scared or panicked to me. It looks more like arousal has just given
him one powerful swift kick, maybe for the first time. In the glowy kiss version he looks up a Hawke through his lashes, uncertain what do to next but it's never crossed my mind that sex with Hawke isn't what he wants. He's passive yes but not weak, as he shows later when he breaks things off.

I actually think you made some really good points there. Fenris does seem to need someone at least a little pushy... which could explain why if he's not with the Champion he ends up with Isabella (who is certainly making her interest in him clear by the beginning of act 2).

Passive but not weak. I like that distinction.

In my head cannon, Fenris is still figuring out how to be free, and for that reason, his personality is a bit binary -- he's either very active (in the form of violence) or very passive, and has very little behavior in between. I think his growth comes as he is able to develop that middle territory, between tearing things apart and letting things happen to him.

Edit to add: that's why I think the Book of Shartan is such an interesting gift for him, and one I wish could have been developed more. I think learning a skill forbidden to slaves that ISN'T fighting would be a huge thing for Fenris.

Modifié par gingergen, 13 février 2012 - 01:48 .

[gingergen]

kemz19691 wrote...

Motomotogirl, I have a hard time seeing Fenris as "Poppa Fenris" or even 'wedded'.  IMO, since he was turned into a weapon, family planning isn't on his horizon.

I have to admit, I agree with you there.

In my head, he and the Champion stay together, but don't ever go through any official binding ceremony. I don't think they need it, and it seems to me it would make him very uncomfortable. It might be different if Hawke's mother were still alive -- she might pressure them into it! -- but since Hawke only has old uncle Gamlen, I don't see why she would push him into any sort of legal arrangment that might make him feel... owned.

Though I do think part of Fenris' growth process is discovering that he is more than a weapon. Unfortunately, the game story doesn't give him much space in which to do that. So it kind of has to happen in the space between battles that we don't see, or after the DA story is complete.

[kemz19691]

gingergen wrote...

kemz19691 wrote...

Motomotogirl, I have a hard time seeing Fenris as "Poppa Fenris" or even 'wedded'.  IMO, since he was turned into a weapon, family planning isn't on his horizon.

I have to admit, I agree with you there.

In my head, he and the Champion stay together, but don't ever go through any official binding ceremony. I don't think they need it, and it seems to me it would make him very uncomfortable. It might be different if Hawke's mother were still alive -- she might pressure them into it! -- but since Hawke only has old uncle Gamlen, I don't see why she would push him into any sort of legal arrangment that might make him feel... owned.

Though I do think part of Fenris' growth process is discovering that he is more than a weapon. Unfortunately, the game story doesn't give him much space in which to do that. So it kind of has to happen in the space between battles that we don't see, or after the DA story is complete.

Gingergen:

I have another issue with the complete loss of family Hawke experiences in less than 10 years. I don't know when her father Malcolm died, but in less than 10 years she loses all of her siblings AND her surviving parent.

I would think that from these losses, she might want to have her own family. She would want children - she would want some semblance of family. I think they avoid this issue to give m!Hawke and f!Hawke the same experience.  But, if they keep having 'relations', she might end up pregnant.  

If f!Hawke ends up pregnant, imagine what that would do to Fenris who can't make any decisions for himself.  I don't know.  He would just runoff - disappear. Fenris runs away when things get too stressful. 

[CuriousArtemis]

kemz19691 wrote...

Motomotogirl, I have a hard time seeing Fenris as "Poppa Fenris" or even 'wedded'.  IMO, since he was turned into a weapon, family planning isn't on his horizon.

Disagree (with respect ).  Fenris is not a weapon.  Fenris is a human being.  (Yes, he is an "elf," but we know that in fantasy, elves, dwarfs, hobbits, etc. they are still HUMAN).  

People have suffered under slavery for thousands upon thousands of years.  This has never prevented slaves or former slaves from falling in love and pursuing marriage and a family with the one they love.  The desire to be with a partner is natural for many people (I will not rope in ALL people, of course).  Unless Fenris is asexual, there is no reason to assume he would not desire to be with a lover and to make some sort of official declaration to him or her.

I think Fenris would be perfectly aminable to staging a small ceremony with just their few friends attending.  I think he'd be fine with just going to a priest or a Keeper or what have you.  I think he'd be fine with just him and Hawke exchanging tokens of devotion.  

It may seem far-fetched within the confines of the game, but keep in mind, Hawke and Fenris are young.  Imagine them in their late 30s, their 40s, 50s, 60s.  

kemz19691 wrote...

I have another issue with the complete loss of family Hawke experiences in less than 10 years. I don't know when her father Malcolm died, but in less than 10 years she loses all of her siblings AND her surviving parent. 

I would think that from these losses, she might want to have her own family. She would want children - she would want some semblance of family. I think they avoid this issue to give m!Hawke and f!Hawke the same experience.  But, if they keep having 'relations', she might end up pregnant.  

If f!Hawke ends up pregnant, imagine what that would do to Fenris who can't make any decisions for himself.  I don't know.  He would just runoff - disappear. Fenris runs away when things get too stressful.  

Firstly, there is no reason to suggest that a female Hawke would have a greater desire for family and children than a male Hawke.  That's playing into gender convention.  I myself am female and have zero desire for children; that isn't going to change.  I'm 31 and I've felt the same way all my life.  Not all women want children.

Secondly, what is there to make one think that Fenris would not welcome a child into his and his lover's life?  The kiss he shares with Hawke at the end of the game indicates that he is totally devoted to him/her.  He has lost himself utterly to this person, and it's beautiful.  

If female Hawke becomes pregnant some years down the road, I don't see Fenris vanishing in a puff of smoke as soon as she makes the big announcement 

Modifié par motomotogirl, 13 février 2012 - 02:18 .

[kemz19691]

motomotogirl wrote...
I think Fenris would be perfectly aminable to staging a small ceremony with just their few friends attending.  I think he'd be fine with just going to a priest or a Keeper or what have you.  I think he'd be fine with just him and Hawke exchanging tokens of devotion.  

It may seem far-fetched within the confines of the game, but keep in mind, Hawke and Fenris are young.  Imagine them in their late 30s, their 40s, 50s, 60s. 

I believe by the end of Act III (nearly 10 years later), Hawke and Fenris are in their late 30s if they were in their early 20s during Act I.  So, we're already dealing with middle-aged people.

I see Fenris like that Ray LaMontagne song "All the Wild Horses". Here are part of the lyrics to this song which I'm posting for purely educational reasons and does not infringe upon the copyright of the owner:

All the wild horses.
All the wild horses -
Tethered with tears in their eyes.
May no man's touch ever tame you.
May no man's reigns every chain you.
May no man's reigns ever chain you
And may no man's weight ever defray your soul.

Modifié par kemz19691, 13 février 2012 - 02:55 .

[Reinara]

kemz19691 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...
I think Fenris would be perfectly aminable to staging a small ceremony with just their few friends attending.  I think he'd be fine with just going to a priest or a Keeper or what have you.  I think he'd be fine with just him and Hawke exchanging tokens of devotion.  

It may seem far-fetched within the confines of the game, but keep in mind, Hawke and Fenris are young.  Imagine them in their late 30s, their 40s, 50s, 60s. 

I believe by the end of Act III (nearly 10 years later), Hawke and Fenris are in their late 30s if they were in their early 20s during Act I.  So, we're already dealing with middle-aged people.

I see Fenris like that Ray LaMontagne song "All the Wild Horses". Here are part of the lyrics to this song which I'm posting for purely educational reasons and does not infringe upon the copyright of the owner:

All the wild horses.
All the wild horses -
Tethered with tears in their eyes.
May no man's touch ever tame you.
May no man's reigns every chain you.
May no man's reigns ever chain you
And may no man's weight ever defray your soul.

I won't dispute the middle-aged people thing although I need to point out something since it's a pet peeve of mine, that I see this often in the fandom. Hawke is 24-25 at the start of the game, by the Last Straw mission in Act 3, s/he would only be 30-31, that's hardly in their late 30s. Even if you count the 10 years thing for 3 years later at Varric's interrogation, Hawke would still be around mid 30s at most.

But to be on topic, I think this children topic has come up before and please bear with me my brain is still waking up but my two cents is still the same that given their lifestyle and the dangerous adventuring they get into, both Hawke and Fenris seems to me like the "if it happens it happens" type of people. They probably don't really consider the domestic aspects until it happens. I mean, sure, some Hawkes might think about it occasionally since Hawke is definitely a family-oriented person but I doubt Fenris would think about it. If he did, he'd probably be unsure about it considering both their sides of the family have mages and their kid is definitely going to have a high chance of being one.

Still even if it happens, I agree with moto that he still wouldn't ditch Hawke - considering the devotion he feels towards Hawke and the promise he made when they got back together at the end of act 3, it'd take death, Hawke doing something insanely horrible or, god forbid, Hawke chasing him away to make him leave Hawke's side.

[aldien]

kemz19691 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...
I think Fenris would be perfectly aminable to staging a small ceremony with just their few friends attending.  I think he'd be fine with just going to a priest or a Keeper or what have you.  I think he'd be fine with just him and Hawke exchanging tokens of devotion.  

It may seem far-fetched within the confines of the game, but keep in mind, Hawke and Fenris are young.  Imagine them in their late 30s, their 40s, 50s, 60s. 

I believe by the end of Act III (nearly 10 years later), Hawke and Fenris are in their late 30s if they were in their early 20s during Act I.  So, we're already dealing with middle-aged people.

I see Fenris like that Ray LaMontagne song "All the Wild Horses". Here are part of the lyrics to this song which I'm posting for purely educational reasons and does not infringe upon the copyright of the owner:

All the wild horses.
All the wild horses -
Tethered with tears in their eyes.
May no man's touch ever tame you.
May no man's reigns every chain you.
May no man's reigns ever chain you
And may no man's weight ever defray your soul.

Hey now! LOL I didn't have my daughter until I was 31 and by no means do I consider myself middle aged. I made certain I was ready to have a child. People who live adventerous lives often need to calm the hell down before they fill fit to raise a family, that is, if they want a family. Not everyone does and it makes me happy when people know what they want. That's what is important. Take time to figure out what you want.

I've often been told that in your 30's you are comfortable with yourself and for the most part I've found it to be true. Actually, age is really irrelevant. I've known people in their twenties knitting doilies and applying eucalytpus to their aching joints. It's all a state of mind. It really is. Am I the oldest fart on here? Possibly, but I am in no way finished. I've led one hell of a life and I'm not done yet and I see Fenris and Hawke the exact same way.

Could they want children? Sure! Why the hell not? I don't think Fenris would run away if she announced she was pregnant. It's not a death sentence you know. The chances that a female Hawke would become pregnant in the period of history  the game was trying to mimic was highly likely. It's just a part of life not a punishment. People took it in their stride in days past. It's just life and it's all beautiful and groovy.

Would they be happy? Who knows. Not everyone makes great parents. But I honestly believe Fenris would cherish his children and not see them as a weakness or a punishment. But that's me. Fenris may be many things, but he is responsible for his actions. He stays with Hawke for many years because of the debt he owes. If he had children, regardless of how he felt, Fenris would feel responsible imo. If he was with a MHawke, I think he would want to acknowledge that through a ceremony as well. Why not? He even hints that he likes the idea of marriage in MoTA. Personally, I see him as a dedicated partner to either MHawke or FHawke in ACT III. The elf is going nowhere.

But, the beauty of roleplaying: Fenris is yours to mould.

[aldien]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Im with you on the stymie part...if anything they could of done so much more in this game. Say for instance the day to night switch I always wished there was different activities going on in the house based on qhich quest was started, done, currently on and how far you are in each chapter.

Hell I would of loved if said LI moved in they are in different parts of the house doing whatever it is they do. Say Anders in the kitchen, Merril in the foyer, ISabella in the wine storage, Fenris in the library or armory...oh and more rooms in the damn house.
Hell I would of liked after they rehook up to find Fenris holding his poker games in his own mancave. Or moto's idea seem better..you move in with Fenris.

Still its a lot of coulda's what ifs and whys jammed into one....*Sigh* this is why you spend 4-5 years on a game.

Hey you! Why do you see Anders in the kitchen? Personally, I'd keep him away from sharp things. I always imagined Fenris in the library curled up on the couch reading a book. Okay... personal fantasy over.

ROFL Isabela in the wine storage.

I always wondered where Sandal and Bodahn slept and where the hell is the kitchen? Why didn't they just use a default mansion? Not Fenris's, it has dead people and mushrooms, but Du Puis would have done.

LOL Fenris's mancave. He would need a beer fridge.

NO No NO! I wouldn't move in with Fenris. The whole dead people in the foyer gets to me and I think he has grown rather fond of them. But, if you ever needed a mushroom on your steak, that's the place to go.


.*Sigh* this is why you spend 4-5 years on a game.

Definitely.

So... I never played DAO. How much time was there between the release of DAO and DAII?

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

aldien wrote...

I've never seen him so annoyed. What did you to him????

Lets see... I have killed Hadriana and Danarius, supported the mages throughout the game, I am a mage... and I have made Fenris fall in love with me.:innocent: What would he be pissed about? 

Hehe, that screenshot is from the beginning of his QB in act 3, with a rivalry relationship.

Hmmmmm did you make fun of his ears?

I did rivalry once and felt guilty. I'm such a softy.

So you like tormenting him? I guess it's fun. I do like to see him snarl. It's strangely sexy.

[AbsoluteApril]

I always imagine the moving in thing happens after the big end fight, either they move in then when Hawke becomes viscount or they run off together and live on the run if Hawke is a mage.

Sandal sleeps curled up with the Mabari in front of the fire! so cute. I like Sandal.

aldien wrote...

Sigh* this is why you spend 4-5 years on a game.

Definitely.

So... I never played DAO. How much time was there between the release of DAO and DAII?

never played DAO! le gasp! 
you're missing out on an *amazing* game!
I don't remember exactly but it was something like 5 years in process to make DAO and then DAII was, what, 2 years later? I really hope they take their sweet time with DAIII, I can wait, I want it to be epic. Of course, some more DLC for DAII would be nice to tide us over..

aldien wrote...

Am I the oldest fart on here?

I recently had my 36th bday, I believe there are a few other 'older' ladies that post as well, a few hundred pages back or so, it was discussed, if my old lady memory serves. heheh

I hate saying 'older' how about finely aged? Age is a state of mind.

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[kemz19691]

aldien wrote...
Am I the oldest fart on here?

AbsoluteApril wrote...
I recently had my 36th bday, I believe there are a few other 'older' ladies that post as well, a few hundred pages back or so, it was discussed, if my old lady memory serves. heheh

I hate saying 'older' how about finely aged? Age is a state of mind.

I'm older than you @ AbsoluteApril.

Modifié par kemz19691, 13 février 2012 - 06:37 .

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

renjility wrote...

aldien wrote...

I've never seen him so annoyed. What did you to him????

Lets see... I have killed Hadriana and Danarius, supported the mages throughout the game, I am a mage... and I have made Fenris fall in love with me.:innocent: What would he be pissed about? 

Hehe, that screenshot is from the beginning of his QB in act 3, with a rivalry relationship.

Hmmmmm did you make fun of his ears?

I did rivalry once and felt guilty. I'm such a softy.

So you like tormenting him? I guess it's fun. I do like to see him snarl. It's strangely sexy.

Nooooo, I would never do that! I like his ears. 

And this rivalry relationship is actually without tormenting. Except for the usual tormenting Fenris does to himself already when he falls for Hawke.  But it is perfectly possible to rival Fenris without being a douche. I don't see the rivalry relation as a love-hate relationship. There's not hatred there. Just... disagreement.
And Fenris' wall slam is just really sexy, hehe.


Fenris running away when lady Hawke is pregnant? I don't see that happening. The whole point of the making up in act 3 is that he is done running away. He won't do that again. I actually think Fenris would make a very proud dad, completely amazed he suddenly has a child with Hawke. 

But aldien, you have to play DAO! You have to meet sweet Alistair and the ridiculously awesome Zevran! You're missing out on a whole lot of companion interaction (you can talk way more with your DAO companions than in DA2). 

Lol, I didn't know this thread was so invaded by old people. *ducks* Haha, just kidding. I do feel very young now.

[Cosmochyck]

kemz19691 wrote...

aldien wrote...
Am I the oldest fart on here?

AbsoluteApril wrote...
I recently had my 36th bday, I believe there are a few other 'older' ladies that post as well, a few hundred pages back or so, it was discussed, if my old lady memory serves. heheh

I hate saying 'older' how about finely aged? Age is a state of mind.

I'm older than you @ AbsoluteApril.

I'm older than April as well - and with age comes to ability to make it look like an accident
Ok that makes me sound really old and really crazy, of which I'm neither.  I"m 37.
@aldien - I didn't have my son til I was 33 and daughter at 36.  There is no way I'd have been having kids in my 20s - hell most days I'm still a kid myself!  Hence all the gaming and fangirling over pixel me.  Mmmmm, pixel men...*drools*

Sorry, back on track!
I see Hawke & Fenris as the "if it happens" type as well.  In my head I don't think there is too much planning between them, just an immediate need to get the hell out of Kirkwall.  I do see them not running forever though.  Like moto, I like the idea of a small place in the middle of nowhere. 

As for DA:O - April is right - go out and buy it!!  Awesome doesn't even begin to describe it.
And I believe that DA2 was only 15 months in development - far too few really.  But I'll take a Fenris DLC until DA3 please!!

[Sealy]

Aww this convo reminds me of that little pic of Fen and Hawke with the little Fen and Hawke chilling with them. too sweet. I hope thay settle in some little backwater village,

[CuriousArtemis]

All this talk of Hawke- and Fen-babies is making me nostalgic for a story idea I've had for awhile now. A teenage runaway elven mage goes to (mage) Hawke and Fenris for safety ... b/c Hawke is a mage and the Champion, and his lover Fenris is a fellow elf, blah blah blah. Cue Hawke and Fenris having to deal with an angsty teenager xD

About DA:O ... I played DA2 first, so I can tell you that DA:O may be a bit of a let down because the PC doesn't talk, so it's a bit weird. S/he just stands there like a silent sociopath or something while Zevran or whomever is whispering sweet nothings into his/her ear. It's creepy xD

P.S. Oh since we're giving out ages, I'm 31  30 year olds FTW!!!  We dominate this thread xD

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