renjility wrote...
I disagree with most people here and think rivalry romance with mage Hawke is great. I don't get the doubts people seem to have that Fenris would fall for mage Hawke because he is "trained to do so". That is not what I am seeing in my game. Fenris falls for the person Hawke. If anything, it is more special he falls for Hawke despite his/her magic. He doesn't go to him/her because of the magic. He hates magic. And that he can love someone who has the powers he sees as dangerous and bad, is amazing. Hawke shows him there are good mages out there (well, that depends on how you play Hawke). Hawke proves he/she is worth trusting. Despite everything Fenris has been through in Tevinter, he cannot prevent himself from loving this Fereldan mage. After everything Danarius has done to him, he still finds it in him to eventually admit this to himself and to Hawke. I'd say it is harder for him to let a mage Hawke close than the other way around, because it requires much more trust.
Fenris certainly has a mind of his own, one he has regained by fighting for himself and his freedom. Not once he gives the impression he is attracted to Hawke because of the magic. He has not been trained to please mages. He has been trained to please his master. There is a difference there. With that logic you could wonder why he isn't head over heels with Merrill and her blood magic, because her use of that kind of magic makes her closer to the kind of mages he would have to serve. No, he doesn't fall for her. He believes her incredibly stupid to use blood magic.
To each their own, of course. Romancing Fenris with a warrior or rogue is fine. But I think the relationship with a mage is very beautiful and a little extra romantic.
@ ladyshamen: yes, Zevran attacked an enemy when that enemy attacked the Warden. It was in his tactics (enemy attacking main character --> attack). I don't think Fenris has a similar tactic, although I'm not certain because I always tweak the tactics of my companions. He attacks the nearest enemy in sight because he is set to aggressive, though.
Meeszy Alexy wrote...
I can understand what you mean, but say you happened to Friendmance him with a scheming blood mage, by any chance, one that is genuinely power-hungry and a control freak, one that's really arrogant and thinks that everybody else is made to serve him... yeah. After I realised the implications of Alone, I can't play my Zack Hawke again without feeling horrible. ;A; This is why I now play rogues 100% of the time. (Not to mention that rogues are now the best class of the game. Dual Weapon + Assassin + Duelist = Awesome). I originally did the playthrough for a laugh, thinking "oh he
He was a C-spec officer, a turian. When the dialogue cutscene had him up close, he had a voice changing effect, but then the game zoomed out and you had him sitting at his desk, and the voice effect was gone and he sounded just like Fenris. Of course I freaked at suddenly hearing him.
AbsoluteApril wrote...
well folks, I am probably gonna take a break from the forums, until I can get at least 1 PT done in ME3... only way it could be better? put a fenris in it!
motomotogirl wrote...
Yeah, true about Zevran. I honestly, really never noticed Fenris staying by Hawke's side. The guy just seems to zip all over the battlefield. I'm seeing him beside Hawke more and more lately because I am currently playing a warrior Hawke (yuck ... the warrior outfits SUCK I'm learning!).
It may have something to do with the rivalry versus friendship bonus; I always friendmance him so maybe rivalry changes his tactics.
Next time I play, I will go into his tactics and see what it says. I play casual so never have to mess with their tactics really.
renjility wrote...
I doubt the relationship bonus changes anything with the tactics. According to the wiki, the bonus is as follows:
Kindred Spirits
Passive
Requires: Fenris Friendship Fenris is inspired by your unexpected support.
Magic resistance: +10%
Enemy of my Enemy
Passive
Requires: Fenris Rivalry Fenris has agreed to disagree.
Critical damage: +10%
So friendship gives a bonus to magic resistance and rivalry to critical damage. That's all it does as far as I know.
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kemz19691 wrote...
Was there ever a discussion as to what those feathers are about on Fenris' outfit? His outfit looks more like a rockstar's stage costume than armor. What's up with the feathers? All around you can pick up raven feathers - so what's the story behind that?
renjility wrote...
I disagree with most people here and think rivalry romance with mage Hawke is great. I don't get the doubts people seem to have that Fenris would fall for mage Hawke because he is "trained to do so". That is not what I am seeing in my game. Fenris falls for the person Hawke. If anything, it is more special he falls for Hawke despite his/her magic. He doesn't go to him/her because of the magic. He hates magic. And that he can love someone who has the powers he sees as dangerous and bad, is amazing. Hawke shows him there are good mages out there (well, that depends on how you play Hawke). Hawke proves he/she is worth trusting. Despite everything Fenris has been through in Tevinter, he cannot prevent himself from loving this Fereldan mage. After everything Danarius has done to him, he still finds it in him to eventually admit this to himself and to Hawke. I'd say it is harder for him to let a mage Hawke close than the other way around, because it requires much more trust.
Fenris certainly has a mind of his own, one he has regained by fighting for himself and his freedom. Not once he gives the impression he is attracted to Hawke because of the magic. He has not been trained to please mages. He has been trained to please his master. There is a difference there. With that logic you could wonder why he isn't head over heels with Merrill and her blood magic, because her use of that kind of magic makes her closer to the kind of mages he would have to serve. No, he doesn't fall for her. He believes her incredibly stupid to use blood magic.
To each their own, of course. Romancing Fenris with a warrior or rogue is fine. But I think the relationship with a mage is very beautiful and a little extra romantic.
Modifié par mrfinke, 06 mars 2012 - 03:54 .
Most Definitely Sane wrote...
kemz19691 wrote...
Was there ever a discussion as to what those feathers are about on Fenris' outfit? His outfit looks more like a rockstar's stage costume than armor. What's up with the feathers? All around you can pick up raven feathers - so what's the story behind that?
I'm fairly certain he wears those feathers because Hawke enjoys being tickled in bed. Either that or Fenris has a bird fetish. I can understand that since he can be romanced by Hawke.
Or maybe Fenris is the ticklish one.
I'd guess that they're largely decorative, but serve a purpose as well; a bit of extra protection for his shoulders and forearms.
renjility wrote...
^Like I said, Fenris is set on 'aggressive' by default, as is Isabela. This means they will attack as soon as an enemy appears and will automatically rush into battle. If you would like to have Fenris defend your Hawke, you can set it up in his tactics (enemy attacking Hawke --> attack).
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