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Harle Cerulean

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Moto, I have to comment on that comment you made about why would Fenris fall in love with a boring-looking Hawke? Fenris doesn't love Hawke because Hawke is pretty; Hawke is handsome/beautiful to Fenris because of who they are, not because of their features. Hawke is a person who supports Fenris on matters of personal importance, even when they disagree; who helps Fenris when he needs help, even when they've traded harsh words; who cares about Fenris in a way no one ever has before in Fenris' memory. These things alone can make a "boring" Hawke become "a handsome man/beautiful woman." Fenris isn't just there for the surface. ;)

Also, I never have problems making good-looking male Hawkes, for some reason! Then again, I tend to find 'unique' faces more attractive than classically handsome ones, so that's probably my opinion more than anything. XD That's one reason I love my Aeven so much: he's not 'pretty', but he stands out.
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My female Hawkes tend to be a little more classically pretty, but I still like to make them sharper than is usually considered "pretty," like Caoimhe.
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Which isn't to say I don't sometimes do "pretty" Hawkes. Lorne is fairly pretty, especially considering the only appearance mod I have is the one that lets you alter the default.
(Only picture not featuring Fenris; sorry, I have some with them together here somewhere, but I'm not sure where they are right now. XD)
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Harle, how did you get Fenris' arm around your Hawke?

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kemz19691 wrote...

Harle, how did you get Fenris' arm around your Hawke?


That's Fenris doing his leering around maybe dusting off my clothes in a minute animation. I'd recognize it anywhere.

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Harle Cerulean wrote...

Moto, I have to comment on that comment you made about why would Fenris fall in love with a boring-looking Hawke? Fenris doesn't love Hawke because Hawke is pretty; Hawke is handsome/beautiful to Fenris because of who they are, not because of their features. Hawke is a person who supports Fenris on matters of personal importance, even when they disagree; who helps Fenris when he needs help, even when they've traded harsh words; who cares about Fenris in a way no one ever has before in Fenris' memory. These things alone can make a "boring" Hawke become "a handsome man/beautiful woman." Fenris isn't just there for the surface. ;)

Also, I never have problems making good-looking male Hawkes, for some reason! Then again, I tend to find 'unique' faces more attractive than classically handsome ones, so that's probably my opinion more than anything. XD That's one reason I love my Aeven so much: he's not 'pretty', but he stands out.
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My female Hawkes tend to be a little more classically pretty, but I still like to make them sharper than is usually considered "pretty," like Caoimhe.
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Which isn't to say I don't sometimes do "pretty" Hawkes. Lorne is fairly pretty, especially considering the only appearance mod I have is the one that lets you alter the default.
(Only picture not featuring Fenris; sorry, I have some with them together here somewhere, but I'm not sure where they are right now. XD)
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I love Fenris against that viney background! Fenris outside in nature is always nice to look at than in a building I think. No matter what I do all my Hawke's look the same! It's annoying. So I appreciate unique Hawkes. Mine are the Stepford Wives.

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kemz19691 wrote...

Harle, how did you get Fenris' arm around your Hawke?


kemz, exactly what Aldien said. A cutscene in Legacy ended and put Fenris directly next to Hawke, so when Fenris did his paranoid shoulder-checking, his arm went around Hawke's. It was a perfect photo op.  :lol: 

When at rest, it looked like they were holding hands.
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may have sat there for a minute cooing over the accidental display of affection, yes.  :innocent:

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Hmmm Motomoto just gave me a reason to spam a few of my M!Hawkes....heehee. 
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Your male Hawkes are gorgeous! Especially the first and last IMO. 


I agree.  You did a great job making them!

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Very, very nice, Harle! Much appreciated.

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Oh Harle, relax lol I just was whining about not being able to make a good-looking Hawke. It's obviously for my own benefit since I'm the player ... Hawke and Fenris are just pixels xD And in my perfect story, Hawke is a god among men, a regular Adonis ... *snort* Okay, maybe not like that, but he has to be a cutey!!!!  In a boyishly handsome way, that is, not "pretty."  I don't go for pretty men >.<

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coldwetn0se, with permission of couse, I think I might write a fic about Ezriel. He wouldn't be Ezriel Hawke though, he'd be an LI to my female Hawke. (don't try and wrap your head around that) Fenris would have to fight extra hard to win Hawke's affections against the charming roguish Ezriel. He is one of the sexiest CG men I've had the pleasure of seeing.

You're not allowed to post pictures of men almost as sexy as Fenris on the Fenris thread! j/k I"m glad you did. Shhhh don't tell Fenris.

And ummmm errr if you'd like to post some more picture of Ezriel I doubt anyone here would complain. :wub:

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I use this Hawke for my fic. He is simply default Hawke, but with a different hair and eye color, and different hair. Oh, and he has a tattoo on his neck, but you can't see that here.

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I use this Hawke for my fic. He is simply default Hawke, but with a different hair and eye color, and different hair. Oh, and he has a tattoo on his neck, but you can't see that here.


:o This is the most erotic page in the thread!!! :o Look at all the hot photos. OMG. Yes, Fenris. Kiss me. Kiss me, you beautiful, sexy goddamn elf! :o I need a drooling emoticon. :?

SORRY TO BE A FLY IN THE SOUP BUT...

His ends are uneven and ragged :devil: this is unnerving. Irritating. I so want to whip out some scissors and even his **** up! :? I know he's a runaway elf and all, but why is his back ends even but his side hair is ragged? I HATE THIS!!! I'm now OCD about Fenris' hair!! I hate Bioware for this. :?

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Okay guys, my adapter finally came in. I hooked it up and did all my downloads ... I just started Legacy, but haven't noticed any romance-specific banters yet :( I thought you guys were saying that Fenris says something at the very beginning of the quest...?

So far he only has a few lines when I click on him "in game," and they're not romance-specific. He makes the comment about Varric drinking too much, and that's it.

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motomotogirl wrote...

Okay guys, my adapter finally came in. I hooked it up and did all my downloads ... I just started Legacy, but haven't noticed any romance-specific banters yet :( I thought you guys were saying that Fenris says something at the very beginning of the quest...?

So far he only has a few lines when I click on him "in game," and they're not romance-specific. He makes the comment about Varric drinking too much, and that's it.


I get the romantic banter later than the beginning. About... ten to maybe 15 minutes in? And I don't get it because I've clicked on him. He just says it. It's below where you fight the  the two rhino looking beasts. (forget what they are called)

There are some banter triggers in the map. That means you can run back and forth over them and trigger their conversations.  When your companions start talking easily about everyday events then you've hit a trigger. Let them talk and then walk back the way you came. They will start another conversation. Once that one is done, go forward and then another conversation starts. This will continue until they run out of things to say, and then you just continue with the game until you hit another trigger. They say less and less as Legacy progresses.

I hope that makes sense. I'm not trying to sound patronizing. If need be, I can get you a screenshot of where the first trigger is in Legacy.

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aldien wrote...

I get the romantic banter later than the beginning. About... ten to maybe 15 minutes in? And I don't get it because I've clicked on him. He just says it. It's below where you fight the  the two rhino looking beasts. (forget what they are called)

There are some banter triggers in the map. That means you can run back and forth over them and trigger their conversations.  When your companions start talking easily about everyday events then you've hit a trigger. Let them talk and then walk back the way you came. They will start another conversation. Once that one is done, go forward and then another conversation starts. This will continue until they run out of things to say, and then you just continue with the game until you hit another trigger. They say less and less as Legacy progresses.

I hope that makes sense. I'm not trying to sound patronizing. If need be, I can get you a screenshot of where the first trigger is in Legacy.


Believe me, you will NEVER sound patronizing when trying to describe tech stuff to me :blink: I'm a total noob, as the kids say these days!  

Okay, I did get some banters.  Finally got a romance-specific one :wub: I'm a little confused though because it sounds like they haven't made up.  Hawke says, "So, Fenris, we haven't talked since..."  and Fenris says, "You wish to talk about this HERE?"  

So that sounds to me like Hawke is bringing up their one night stand.  But at this point in my game (Act 3, all quests completed except The Last Straw), Hawke should not be bringing that up =\\  That should be behind them.

EDIT: Okay, and in another banter, Fenris thanks Hawke for inviting him.  He says, "It's just ... nice to see you."  Um, Don't they see each other all the time?!  THEY ARE IN LOVE!  I know Fenris never moves in, but once they've made up, I assume they at least VISIT one another.  Sheesh!

I know, never satisfied, right?! ---> ME =]

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Harle Cerulean

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The one at least is, I'm fairly certain, only meant to trigger before the making up scene! There was a comment in the patch notes - "Fenris's romance banter now properly checks to see if Fenris and the player slept together but have not yet made up in Act 3." Only it seems like it's not properly checking . . .

And the other could just be written off to dopey-in-loveness, after making up. IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SEE HAWKE, etc, etc. It's just cute.

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I also got both of those but, i assumed the nice to see you was because I had killed Carver and, thus Fenris was kidnapped in Best Served Cold. i had just rescued him before going on Legacy. The first one, I took it to mean Hawke was speaking of his not being there to keep Fenris from being put under the influence of blood magic. Something we will never hear them discuss. I assumed that because they had made up so it couldn't have been that - unless the programmers messed that detail up.

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@aldien - Sorry for the delay, but of course you may use the truly handsome and amazing Ezriel, for a story ( saying this aloud in a terrible impersonation of Zevran...HA! ) Actually seeing that post just made my night, and would love to read your story when your done. :)

Bah!!! Just sooo happy to see all you Fenris lovers this evening. Just been crying my eyes out over a certain character in ME3 that was pooped on.....pardon my french. :P
It's bad enough that I may just put ME3 away and finish my Mace Hawke (romancing Fenris, of course), she's just about to go to the Deep Roads. That should help me forget the "game that must not be named"! ;)

PS. Very kind words from this lovely thread about my Hawkes....and @Harle, I happen to find your Hawkes quite stunning! Love the Legacy shots....I always make my Hawkes stand in just those positions for those same poses....tooo cute!

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coldwetn0se wrote...

PS. Very kind words from this lovely thread about my Hawkes....and @Harle, I happen to find your Hawkes quite stunning! Love the Legacy shots....I always make my Hawkes stand in just those positions for those same poses....tooo cute!


So you have ME3 now? When did it come out? 

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Harle Cerulean wrote...

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Harle, how did you get Fenris' arm around your Hawke?


kemz, exactly what Aldien said. A cutscene in Legacy ended and put Fenris directly next to Hawke, so when Fenris did his paranoid shoulder-checking, his arm went around Hawke's. It was a perfect photo op.  :lol: 

When at rest, it looked like they were holding hands.
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may have sat there for a minute cooing over the accidental display of affection, yes.  :innocent:


Harle, when I move Hawke close to Fenris, the elf does a 180 and moves away. I tried sneaking up on him, I tried slowly slipping closer - but each time, he 180s and moves away.

I am too frustrated to type anything else.

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@kemz - the Legacy scenes, like those in Harle's pics, happen after a couple Viewpoints with cutscenes. After the cutscene finishes, Fenris will be standing that close to Hawke...don't move your Hawke, just the camera angle, viola! Handholding Fenris, yea!!

Yup, got ME3 yesterday.....shhhhh, mustn't mention it again. Ouch!

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coldwetn0se wrote...

@kemz - the Legacy scenes, like those in Harle's pics, happen after a couple Viewpoints with cutscenes. After the cutscene finishes, Fenris will be standing that close to Hawke...don't move your Hawke, just the camera angle, viola! Handholding Fenris, yea!!

Yup, got ME3 yesterday.....shhhhh, mustn't mention it again. Ouch!

I thought Ezriel Hawke was mine :crying:

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coldwetn0se wrote...

@kemz - the Legacy scenes, like those in Harle's pics, happen after a couple Viewpoints with cutscenes. After the cutscene finishes, Fenris will be standing that close to Hawke...don't move your Hawke, just the camera angle, viola! Handholding Fenris, yea!!

Yup, got ME3 yesterday.....shhhhh, mustn't mention it again. Ouch!


Yep, exactly how it works.  It can also happen with other party members - Aeven ended up holding Isabela's hand, too, at a different viewpoint.  Which I was okay with, since if I could romance her without losing Fenris, I would.  :innocent:  Still, much as I adore her, Fenris has priority.

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I think Legacy doesn't deal or acknowledge anything past Act II Moto. Trust me, I was extremely disappointed when I played my Hawke and the Act III relationship between Hawke and Fenris was never acknowledged. Obviously, since the game was finished, my Hawke had made up with him, had a big smooching kiss at the end, and then in Legacy he is telling Hawke that is nice to see her again. So... no Act III acknowledgement as far as I can tell. :(

@aldien - Sorry for the delay, but of course you may use the truly handsome and amazing Ezriel, for a story ( saying this aloud in a terrible impersonation of Zevran...HA! ) Actually seeing that post just made my night, and would love to read your story when your done. :)

Thank you! ROFL It did sound kind of Zevrany. You will be the first to see it! I'm curious to know what your female Hawke looks like, the one you mentioned up there romancing Fenris. Piccie please??? :D

Kemz said: Harle, when I move Hawke close to Fenris, the elf does a 180 and moves away. I tried sneaking up on him, I tried slowly slipping closer - but each time, he 180s and moves away.

I am too frustrated to type anything else.


Yeah, coldwetn0se is right. Try a cutscene. Actually, if you do that quest where you go see Gamlen and he is being sentimental, usually after that is over Fenris and Hawke will look like they are holding hands.

The reason Fenris walks away is because the game does a collision test to make certain you or anything else cannot walk through him, and that he can't walk through you, walls, rocks etc.. After Fenris kisses your Hawke for the last time, the big heated kiss, if you walk up to him he won't walk away. You can get very close. Cut scenes are similar, but for a different reason (I think the characters are transported to their positions). The rest of the time, the game makes certain people don't walk through other people. That's all it is. It is nothing personal on Fenris's part.:)

Someone smack the nerd out of me!

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Isabela wouldn't mind to join...

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aldien wrote...

I think Legacy doesn't deal or acknowledge anything past Act II Moto. Trust me, I was extremely disappointed when I played my Hawke and the Act III relationship between Hawke and Fenris was never acknowledged. Obviously, since the game was finished, my Hawke had made up with him, had a big smooching kiss at the end, and then in Legacy he is telling Hawke that is nice to see her again. So... no Act III acknowledgement as far as I can tell.


WTH?!  I mean, do they just ENJOY screwing with us Fenris fans? 

Sigh.  And now it seems like DA2 is finished.  No more DLC or expansion.  Since I'm not a huge fan of DA:O, I have a feeling I won't enjoy DA3 as much as I've lived and breathed DA2.  There will never be another Hawke and Fenris for me...