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[CuriousArtemis]

coldy ~ That is just the url tumblr assigned to the file when the uploader uploaded it. There's no way to figure out who uploaded the file (picture) just by looking at that url, sadly. You would need a link back to his/her blog.

As for the "tinypic" url, I don't know much about tinypic; you see them on Twitter a lot though *shrugs*

Basically, whoever provided that link on the kink meme did a poor job of doing so; they just basically hotlinked to tumblr. Now there's no way to know who uploaded it or who drew it.

[Mishelle1]

Okami1975 wrote...

And more art you shall have!

Nice sketch Okami.

And a belated happy 2000th Fen Thread.

[Mishelle1]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Just doing a drive by to drop this off!

by Smailika07

She did this piece and assumed it was after the events of DA2 so she's changed his look a little. He's living somewhere with Hawke. And he's happy

oh.. I love this one

[coldwetn0se]

motomotogirl wrote...

coldy ~ That is just the url tumblr assigned to the file when the uploader uploaded it. There's no way to figure out who uploaded the file (picture) just by looking at that url, sadly. You would need a link back to his/her blog.

As for the "tinypic" url, I don't know much about tinypic; you see them on Twitter a lot though *shrugs*

Basically, whoever provided that link on the kink meme did a poor job of doing so; they just basically hotlinked to tumblr. Now there's no way to know who uploaded it or who drew it.

Exactly....that's what I (very badly) was trying to say the first time around.... The artist was one the who posted the link for an art fill prompt on DA kmeme.  Anyway....really doesn't matter.  Anyone interested can take a look at the photo from those links, but I will leave as is.  Thanks for trying to help though.....very sweet.

[Dutchess]

 The "I'd rather be alone" response in the comforting scene shouldn't have any influence on the romance. I haven't chosen that option with Fenris, but I did do it once with Isabela. They just leave when you say that, but they don't think: "oh, Hawke must not love me now. I'm moving on". You can easily roleplay and pick whatever you want. It has no further influence whatsoever.
@ aldien: I think we did agree.:o How shocking. Although I don't agree with you that the voice doesn't really matter. That voice is definitely what pulled me in first time around, and still does. Of course I wouldn't know any better if someone else had voiced Fenris, but Gideon Emery's performance is definitely a big fat plus. It's just soooo sexy.


I know many people don't like Fenris very much, calling him whiny and mean, because he opposes mages' freedom so strongly. But really he has every reason to, and he is the shining (hehe hehe) example of what can happen when mages indeed are allowed to be free and do as they wish. On the other hand, I can see where Anders is coming from too. Being taken away from your parents at a young age, always being watched by the templars... that can be very traumatizing as well. But it seems Fenris' point of view is far less appreciated. 
I often see the complaint he is an "anime" character, but I don't understand how people come to that conclusion. Because his hair is white? I'd say that is perfectly in-character, because it's easy to imagine the ritual turned his hair white. Because of his face, the large eyes? That's just the (silly) art style of the game. Fenris is the only elf who looks good. 


by 
LynxFelidae 

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

 The "I'd rather be alone" response in the comforting scene shouldn't have any influence on the romance. I haven't chosen that option with Fenris, but I did do it once with Isabela. They just leave when you say that, but they don't think: "oh, Hawke must not love me now. I'm moving on". You can easily roleplay and pick whatever you want. It has no further influence whatsoever.
@ aldien: I think we did agree.:o How shocking. Although I don't agree with you that the voice doesn't really matter. That voice is definitely what pulled me in first time around, and still does. Of course I wouldn't know any better if someone else had voiced Fenris, but Gideon Emery's performance is definitely a big fat plus. It's just soooo sexy.


I know many people don't like Fenris very much, calling him whiny and mean, because he opposes mages' freedom so strongly. But really he has every reason to, and he is the shining (hehe hehe) example of what can happen when mages indeed are allowed to be free and do as they wish. On the other hand, I can see where Anders is coming from too. Being taken away from your parents at a young age, always being watched by the templars... that can be very traumatizing as well. But it seems Fenris' point of view is far less appreciated. 
I often see the complaint he is an "anime" character, but I don't understand how people come to that conclusion. Because his hair is white? I'd say that is perfectly in-character, because it's easy to imagine the ritual turned his hair white. Because of his face, the large eyes? That's just the (silly) art style of the game. Fenris is the only elf who looks good. 


by 
LynxFelidae 

Mornin' Ren

Shinging example??? *facepalms*

It's the white hair, but it doesn't bother me one bit. I love anime, however I don't think he looks like an anime character. Don't get me wrong, i do love Gideion Emery's voice! I just love Fenris's story more.

Oh I agree, I think Anders has had it hard. They both have. Anders may be intelligent, but he has no common sense.  He's got his  target audience all wrong. Instead of bugging Fenris a better person to get to know and convince would have been Thrask. If that whole situation had been organized better it could have succeeded.

Unlike Anders, If I felt strongly about mages freedom, I don't think the person I'd be trying to convince to see my point would be an ex slave who has been abused, raped and made amnesiac by his former magical master. Call me crazy! But I think I'd give Fenris a pass and move on to someone else. I wouldn't even bother arguing with Fenris to be honest. Someone that hurt and angry has to come to a conclusion on their own. The more you force the issue the more he will resist.

I'm sorry but I decided Fenris has just had awesome sex with Hawke after looking at Smailika07's picture again. Yep, that is definitely a man that has been sexually satisfied. Wait... did I type that or think it?

Modifié par aldien, 18 avril 2012 - 01:10 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I'd say Fenris' opposition towards mages and magic makes SENSE (for him), but it is not necessarily the right way of approaching the problem.  It sort of reminds me of the interrment of Japanese-Americans that took place after WWII.  You can't imprison all people based on the actions of a few (or even more than a few).  It's sort of like being afraid of all men after being sexually assaulted and abused by one.  We would all understand why this person fears men, and we would be sympathetic towards her and NEVER criticize her for her feelings and beliefs.  BUT we wouldn't heed her advice and automatically distrust ALL men because of what had been done to her and others (by men).  Even though MANY men DO abuse women, we still don't treat them all the same way, just because of these bad apples.

Well, that's how I see it, and I say this as someone whose favorite character is Fenris, not Anders!  I understand all the characters and think they are quite brilliantly written.  I understand all their viewpoints because the writers did a great job creating this complex world and showing how all the various viewpoints do make sense for those particular characters.

As for Fenris' voice; Gideon Emergy is very gifted, and his voice is just part of Fenris for me.  I can't separate the two.  I don't really think a voice can be sexy though (for me; I know for some people it can be.)  It's just a voice... but not JUST a voice; it's part of who he is!!!

Modifié par motomotogirl, 18 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[coldwetn0se]

TOTALLY admit to having a voice kink! Always have had one.....So, when I first *heard* Fenris - 'face-plant' right into the table <thunk!> Maybe that is why video games are such a great medium for me; caters to my kink! (Hello Mr. Emery, Mr. Farley, ect.......)Woohoo!

As for Fenris' position on mages, his views ARE extreme, but I will never hold it against him (for very obvious reasons). I sympathize and empathize with certain aspects of his past, but my Hawkes rarely follow his advice (unless they are slanted that way to begin with) when it comes to mages. They will consider what he has to say, and occasionally may be influenced, but for the most part my Hawkes decide what "they" think is best.

It's interesting when I stop to think how my Hawkes have acted in certain quests. Especially the mage related quests. It is not uncommon for me to play more 'neutral' Hawkes, then choosing at the end to support Orsino and the circle, or the Templars (I NEVER consider my Hawkes as supporting Meredith). But even when I am playing a much more pro-mage Hawke, there are some things I still don't do very often.

Oddly enough, I almost always (8 out of 10 times) send Feynriel to the circle after Wayward Son. Two reasons; one, because it is what his mother asks of me, and two, I find Marethari (sp) ineffectual. Plus, if you listen to how he is treated by the clan, you really do get an idea that he may have his throat slit (even though we know this doesn't happen) in the middle of the night. Doh!

I also never take direct sides at the beginning of Act 3. This is NOT because I don't feel strongly at this point (though sometimes that is how I role play it) about Meredith or Orsino, it's that I always imagine that my Hawkes are playing a bit of the diplomat. This arguement is happening in front of a crowd of Nobles; playing a bit of the politician, considering Hawkes status, seems........kind of natural for me.

Act of Mercy is one of those quest that is REALLY a focus on how my Hawkes will be role played, so as you can imagine, I have done that quest in just about every way you can. I also use that to help decide how I want to handle Fenris and Anders. It can help set a tone for friendship/rivalry my Hawkes will have with them.

[Dutchess]

I have to argue that Fenris' position on mages is extreme. Sometimes, when he is angry and upset, he'll say more irrational things, but when he is at ease you can have a sensible discussion with him (when entering the Gallows for the first time), and his point of view doesn't seem extreme at all. He doesn't believe all mages are evil and rotten to the core, but that temptation to seize greater powers pretty much always becomes too strong. Not just out of hunger for power, but also to save a loved one, for instance. He is inclined to believe every mage has a breaking point, leading to the use of blood magic and/or a deal with a demon. And actually, I think he is right in that as well. Not every mage will turn, because not every mage has had that breaking point, that situation that makes them completely desperate. But almost every mage had that weak spot.

Whose mage Hawke would resort to blood magic to save Fenris' life? I know mine would.

[Dutchess]

motomotogirl wrote...

I don't really think a voice can be sexy though (for me; I know for some people it can be.)  It's just a voice... but not JUST a voice; it's part of who he is!!!

You don't? Oooh, I totally do. Gideon Emery's voice is the perfect example. I really like those deep, sophisticated voices. Don't know if any of you watch the Vampire Diaries, but Elijah there has also a voice I find pretty sexy. Too bad my boyfriend doesn't have a voice like that, haha. Sssht, don't tell him! Maybe it'll come when he is older. xD

[aldien]

My husband is English so maybe it doesn't hold that extreme appeal or maybe I just associate it with a nagging husband . I do love Gideon Emery's voice, don't get me wrong and I do see it as part of Fenris, because that is what he sounds like in the game. But I don't think the voice alone would have made the character for me. I'd miss the voice if it was different, but I'd still love Fenris to death.

All I was trying to say about Anders is that he really should back off with Fenris. What's the point in engaging Fenris in an argument when it never has an effect? Hawke is a different story, but Anders doesn't have a hope in hell of convincing Fenris of anything. I think for Fenris, his remarks are almost like therapy. He has spent his whole life biting his tongue and never, not once, I am certain allowed to express himself. When I play I actually find his rants cute. They are just so extreme that they are funny. I guess that's just me.

Modifié par aldien, 18 avril 2012 - 06:26 .

[CuriousArtemis]

renjility wrote...

He is inclined to believe every mage has a breaking point, leading to the use of blood magic and/or a deal with a demon. And actually, I think he is right in that as well. Not every mage will turn, because not every mage has had that breaking point, that situation that makes them completely desperate. But almost every mage had that weak spot.

Whose mage Hawke would resort to blood magic to save Fenris' life? I know mine would.

Very true!  I think this plays more into Merrill's court.  Merrill is very calm about blood maic; it is just another form of maic for her.  She says all spirits are spirits; there aren't good ones and bad ones.  You just have to be smart and keep your wits about you.  

I'd say some of my Hawke's agree with Merrill and some agree with Anders and some (okay, just one actually) agree with Fenris.

Hawke could ask Fenris though -- what wouldn't YOU do to save me?  

aldien wrote...

All I was trying to say about Anders is that he really should back off with Fenris. What's the point in engaging Fenris in an argument when it never has an effect? 

 

I agree, but I don't think Anders can help himself.  He isn't the type to let a thing rest, and he's SO passoinate about his cause, it's upsetting to him that Fenris can't see his side.

[coldwetn0se]

Just passing by - this was posted in the Thane thread, and since it is Fenris related as well, thought you might all enjoy it.  By Louvette!

[coldwetn0se]

renjility wrote...

I have to argue that Fenris' position on mages is extreme. Sometimes, when he is angry and upset, he'll say more irrational things, but when he is at ease you can have a sensible discussion with him (when entering the Gallows for the first time), and his point of view doesn't seem extreme at all. He doesn't believe all mages are evil and rotten to the core, but that temptation to seize greater powers pretty much always becomes too strong. Not just out of hunger for power, but also to save a loved one, for instance. He is inclined to believe every mage has a breaking point, leading to the use of blood magic and/or a deal with a demon. And actually, I think he is right in that as well. Not every mage will turn, because not every mage has had that breaking point, that situation that makes them completely desperate. But almost every mage had that weak spot.

Whose mage Hawke would resort to blood magic to save Fenris' life? I know mine would.

Wasn't meaning for my post to be taken as a debate (if this post was directed at me)....was just trying (and apparently very poorly) to express how I often role play my Hawkes.  Poor choice of words (like 'extreme', or 'never'.....); been writing so much in the Thane thread for the past month and much of it is heated and emotional (many 'Trolls in the Dungeon', so to speak), the language may be seeping into my Fenris posts.  Don't necessarily disagree with most of what you posted, but again, how I RP a Hawke, and what views I personally may have on Fenris, can vary.  Sorry for the confusion 

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

My husband is English so maybe it doesn't hold that extreme appeal or maybe I just associate it with a nagging husband .

Bwahahaha. xD Maybe it will sound better when you convince your husband to say "I'm yours" in his lowest voice.
I do love the British accent. Sounds great imo. I'm Dutch, so my native language isn't English anyway, but the Dutch accent when speaking English sounds truly awful. I also hate it when I hear it from myself.

[Dutchess]

coldwetn0se wrote...

renjility wrote...

I have to argue that Fenris' position on mages is extreme. Sometimes, when he is angry and upset, he'll say more irrational things, but when he is at ease you can have a sensible discussion with him (when entering the Gallows for the first time), and his point of view doesn't seem extreme at all. He doesn't believe all mages are evil and rotten to the core, but that temptation to seize greater powers pretty much always becomes too strong. Not just out of hunger for power, but also to save a loved one, for instance. He is inclined to believe every mage has a breaking point, leading to the use of blood magic and/or a deal with a demon. And actually, I think he is right in that as well. Not every mage will turn, because not every mage has had that breaking point, that situation that makes them completely desperate. But almost every mage had that weak spot.

Whose mage Hawke would resort to blood magic to save Fenris' life? I know mine would.

Wasn't meaning for my post to be taken as a debate (if this post was directed at me)....was just trying (and apparently very poorly) to express how I often role play my Hawkes.  Poor choice of words (like 'extreme', or 'never'.....); been writing so much in the Thane thread for the past month and much of it is heated and emotional (many 'Trolls in the Dungeon', so to speak), the language may be seeping into my Fenris posts.  Don't necessarily disagree with most of what you posted, but again, how I RP a Hawke, and what views I personally may have on Fenris, can vary.  Sorry for the confusion 

That's okay, I understand. It can be difficult to say exactly what you mean in text form.

[Dwarva]

aldien wrote...

My husband is English so maybe it doesn't hold that extreme appeal or maybe I just associate it with a nagging husband .

My boyfriend is English and I'm the same. Their voices are all just....normal....to me? However, saying that I'm Scottish and still think Sebastian's voice is sexy. Even though I hear that voice every single day lol...

[coldwetn0se]

sigh.....I'll just leave a Fenris and go back to lurking......

DA2 - Fenris by ~BlackShial on deviantART

[Ghost_Nappa]

Good lord I missed alot...well try to add my two cents.

As for Anders trying hard to convince Fenris about the plight of mages...its a little irritating he cant take no for an answer unless his views are accepted. Its like me and my husband arguing over movie ending, or recently, the ending to ME3.
I can't get personal, but lets just say He can let it go but I will go all Anders on him....which has me weary of Anders in general in not learning to let it go.
Granted his emotional stability wasnt as bad as Fenris, who after going through his trials is somewhat miraculously sane, but with that merger with Justice making him unstable...and multiply the never letting it go to 50...yeah not the person you want to be your spokes person.

Now to back to mindless thinking and deadlines....courtsy of Ixinc.



edit:Just realized I wrote miraculous bust size instead of sane...when my husband was asking me questions about my measurements....

Modifié par Ghost_Nappa, 18 avril 2012 - 11:15 .

[aldien]

Staarbux wrote...

aldien wrote...

My husband is English so maybe it doesn't hold that extreme appeal or maybe I just associate it with a nagging husband .

My boyfriend is English and I'm the same. Their voices are all just....normal....to me? However, saying that I'm Scottish and still think Sebastian's voice is sexy. Even though I hear that voice every single day lol...

I'm American, so when I first met my husband I thought he had the sexiest voice in all of the world. After 16 years of marriage and living in England for 7 years I hear something completely different. When we moved back to America, people thought I was English because I had picked up a bit, a very tiny bit of the accent. That's how sensitive American ears are to the accent, which is not at all because English accents vary widely.

Of course, now I just sound like any other Kentucky hayseed. But my dear husband still gets women on his conference calls at work asking what he looks like. *sighs*  If they only knew how he farts in the mornings it would ruin the fantasy Men are all the same. Never forget that.

Sebastian does have a nice voice. Most of the VA's in the game do. I guess I hear a bit of my husband in Fenris. It's similar, no not the pitch, but the whining and the puppy eyes when he wants "something"

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

aldien wrote...

My husband is English so maybe it doesn't hold that extreme appeal or maybe I just associate it with a nagging husband .

Bwahahaha. xD Maybe it will sound better when you convince your husband to say "I'm yours" in his lowest voice.
I do love the British accent. Sounds great imo. I'm Dutch, so my native language isn't English anyway, but the Dutch accent when speaking English sounds truly awful. I also hate it when I hear it from myself.

I had him say it. It was still like he was asking for a piece of toast or if I had washed his socks. He does have a very similar English accent to Fenris, not pitch.

I knew a Dutch guy. I loved his accent! He was sexy as hell, but that was a long time ago. *Ahem*

Modifié par aldien, 18 avril 2012 - 11:11 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

Aldien....your husband has a magical voice that might not match the frame, but dont you dare ruin it for the rest of us who have american accents.

You know how bad it is to have a Philadelphian accent and not smack a person when they ask if I want a cheesesteak or water ice?
....sorry, Mind went off somewhere naughty with Mr. Emery saying water ice.

[aldien]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Good lord I missed alot...well try to add my two cents.

As for Anders trying hard to convince Fenris about the plight of mages...its a little irritating he cant take no for an answer unless his views are accepted. Its like me and my husband arguing over movie ending, or recently, the ending to ME3.
I can't get personal, but lets just say He can let it go but I will go all Anders on him....which has me weary of Anders in general in not learning to let it go.
Granted his emotional stability wasnt as bad as Fenris, who after going through his trials is somewhat miraculously bust size, but with that merger with Justice making him unstable...and multiply the never letting it go to 50...yeah not the person you want to be your spokes person.

Now to back to mindless thinking and deadlines....courtsy of Ixinc.

That was exactly what I was trying to say about Anders. You summed it up much better.  I guess I am your husband in this argument.

[Ghost_Nappa]

aldien wrote...

renjility wrote...

aldien wrote...

My husband is English so maybe it doesn't hold that extreme appeal or maybe I just associate it with a nagging husband .

Bwahahaha. xD Maybe it will sound better when you convince your husband to say "I'm yours" in his lowest voice.
I do love the British accent. Sounds great imo. I'm Dutch, so my native language isn't English anyway, but the Dutch accent when speaking English sounds truly awful. I also hate it when I hear it from myself.

I had him say it. It was still like he was asking for a piece of toast or if I had washed his socks. He does have a very similar accent to Fenris, not pitch, but I guess you would call it a class thing as far as England goes. Educated and annoying. That's my husband.

I knew a Dutch guy. I loved his accent! He was sexy as hell, but that was a long time ago. *Ahem*

.......my god I should of been more out going in my my life instead shut in and mingling with other nerds online. Damn you teenage shut in years!

[aldien]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

aldien wrote...

renjility wrote...

aldien wrote...

My husband is English so maybe it doesn't hold that extreme appeal or maybe I just associate it with a nagging husband .

Bwahahaha. xD Maybe it will sound better when you convince your husband to say "I'm yours" in his lowest voice.
I do love the British accent. Sounds great imo. I'm Dutch, so my native language isn't English anyway, but the Dutch accent when speaking English sounds truly awful. I also hate it when I hear it from myself.

I had him say it. It was still like he was asking for a piece of toast or if I had washed his socks. He does have a very similar accent to Fenris, not pitch, but I guess you would call it a class thing as far as England goes. Educated and annoying. That's my husband.

I knew a Dutch guy. I loved his accent! He was sexy as hell, but that was a long time ago. *Ahem*

.......my god I should of been more out going in my my life instead shut in and mingling with other nerds online. Damn you teenage shut in years!

Funny, I wish I had been less obsessed with exchange students and a man at university who wooed me with his accent! I'm just warning everyone. Not trying to ruin dreams, but trust me, if Fenris were real he would be as annoying as any other man, just with a sexier body and voice.