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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

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Right, and you're telling me Mr. Happy-Fun-Time-At-The-Circle Anders has never contracted an STD? Must be a handy thing, being a mage :P


Anders gets a lot of mage-clap. it's those hipster mages, i tell you. 


Does Anders fall into the hippy or hipster category? I get a distinct hippy feeling from mages.

Be careful, Trista, not everyone on this thread has a keen sense of joviality that equates to a particular overall humor that most would find funny. *winks at Harle* We have a groovy history that gives me the warm and fuzzies every time. :wizard:

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aldien wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Right, and you're telling me Mr. Happy-Fun-Time-At-The-Circle Anders has never contracted an STD? Must be a handy thing, being a mage :P


Anders gets a lot of mage-clap. it's those hipster mages, i tell you. 


Does Anders fall into the hippy or hipster category? I get a distinct hippy feeling from mages.

Be careful, not everyone on this thread has a keen sense of joviality that equates to a particular overall humor that most would find funny. *winks at Harle*


It's ok. I am so misunderstood. :::dramatic hand-to-forehead gesture::: 

(That's me mocking myself. heh)

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aldien wrote...


Does Anders fall into the hippy or hipster category? I get a distinct hippy feeling from mages.

:wizard:


Oh woops *and* I forgot to reply to this bit. Take it in stride, I'm 80% joking here:

Mages are hipsters. (Hipsters are the modern hippy. So in a way, yes. Hippies. lol) But I like to think they listen to indie music and use instagram a lot. Mages are not status quo. They don't work in cubicles for Scott Trade or Edward Jones. ha.

Rogues are punk rock, but not exclusively. Punks are so bad at being organized. They go against the status quo in every way. "F*ck authority!" and "Andraste? Who cares. I'm atheist. Oy oy oy!"

Warriors are, for better or for worse, people that go with the status quo. Because the warrior class is always the default class. (Can't figure out what to pick? Pick warrior. Replay the game later.) lol. Whether it's the high school jock, class president, or your local alderman - there's the warrior class for you. ;)

Again - mostly joking there, guys.

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Oh, I have a sense of humour. However, I have seen people actually use the "she got an STD ewwww" argument against Isabela plenty of times, with full sincerity. Trista may have been joking, but it's impossible to tell the difference in text, sometimes.

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Harle Cerulean wrote...

Oh, I have a sense of humour. However, I have seen people actually use the "she got an STD ewwww" argument against Isabela plenty of times, with full sincerity. Trista may have been joking, but it's impossible to tell the difference in text, sometimes.


nah i completely understand. and those people need to get over it. Isabela is a pirate and she has "a girl at every port."

Yo ho, yo ho (<-- no pun) ...a pirate's life for me. 


P.S. I'll just say to everyone as a disclaimer that half the stuff I type is sarcasm and jokes. Unless I'm begging for your DA:O/DA2 help - or trying to tell you that someone just stabbed me in the face. 

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Piccie time!


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Harle Cerulean wrote...

Oh, I have a sense of humour. However, I have seen people actually use the "she got an STD ewwww" argument against Isabela plenty of times, with full sincerity. Trista may have been joking, but it's impossible to tell the difference in text, sometimes.


Harle, I missed you. (I am being sincere) Where have you been? 

I never actually paid much attention to Isabela's treatment by Anders. As far as Isabela's liasons go, the only thing I didn't like is how flippant she could be about sex. Of course, it's hard to say what meant what considering her dialogue.

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

aldien wrote...


Does Anders fall into the hippy or hipster category? I get a distinct hippy feeling from mages.

:wizard:


Oh woops *and* I forgot to reply to this bit. Take it in stride, I'm 80% joking here:

Mages are hipsters. (Hipsters are the modern hippy. So in a way, yes. Hippies. lol) But I like to think they listen to indie music and use instagram a lot. Mages are not status quo. They don't work in cubicles for Scott Trade or Edward Jones. ha.

Rogues are punk rock, but not exclusively. Punks are so bad at being organized. They go against the status quo in every way. "F*ck authority!" and "Andraste? Who cares. I'm atheist. Oy oy oy!"

Warriors are, for better or for worse, people that go with the status quo. Because the warrior class is always the default class. (Can't figure out what to pick? Pick warrior. Replay the game later.) lol. Whether it's the high school jock, class president, or your local alderman - there's the warrior class for you. ;)

Again - mostly joking there, guys.


ROFL! Oh I think I am going to be sick. I loved this!

I need to check out your writing.

But the hippy mage might be insulted if you call them a hipster mage. Thedas is very politically correct after all, unless you are mage, in which case, you have to consider the individual mage on a mage by mage basis. ;) I mean, there is the apostate mage, the imprisoned mage, the circle mage, the mage making a profit and the inbetween captured and free mage. Of course, who could forget the apostitute?


Yo ho, yo ho  <------ Isabela would laugh at that. I'm certain of it.

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Well IM resident curmudgeon so I just ****shame everyone....wait doesn't that make me a misanthrope?
Anyway, I figured the mages in the circle are like trust fund babies raised intheir wizard school without learning the basics of how to flush properly, while Apostates are the DIY nerds learing what they could off the internet without the proper common sense vibes.

Anything else I missed I'll just summ it up as Isabela is sex,sex,sex *gun shot*, Fenris age...seems late 20's to me and Dear lord Aldy that looks like an uncanny valley doll cosplaying..

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I loved how someone summed up Isabela in one piccie

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I was always fond of Isabela's neologism "apostitute."

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Harle Cerulean wrote...

Fenris' age is something I waver back and forth on on a bit, but I find it difficult to say early 20s even at the start of the game.

He's been running from Danarius for three years at that point; we don't know how long he served Danarius after recieving the tattoos, but presumably it was a decent amount of time. Before that, he was likely fully-grown when he won the competition for the boon. So assuming he was 18-20 when he won, he then served Danarius for an unknown amount of time.

Don't forget that adulthood comes much earlier in a time setting like this. Fenris could certainly have been as young as 15 when he fought in the competition. For all we know, the competition was composed of all similarly aged young men for the reason that the martial training (post-lyrium) would take better on a younger person, and that Danarius would have the perfect weapon in the prime of his (the recipient's) life for as long as possible, making the most of the investment.

As far as ages go in general, I would say that it's difficult to gauge the ages of most of them, particularly Fenris, Anders, Isabela, and Hawke. The default male Hawke certainly seems to be in his late 20s to early 30s based on appearance alone, and the beard makes him look even older than that, but that is just because of societal norms in mostly Christian Western cultures where young full-bearded men are uncommon (to us as players). The remaining three are problematic in that from what we know of them, they have lived a lot of life.

It is times like this that I really wish they had been more consistent with the time lapse from Awakening to DA2 in relation to Anders. The time overlap is really bad and requires considerable hand waving that is not required for anyone else. It's irritating. We don't even know when mages undertake their Harrowing, whether it's based on age alone, level of skill and training, or a combination of the two (which I think most likely), also putting into question the possible age of our DAO mage Warden. We know that Anders made several escape attempts, but not over low long a period. The only other clue to Anders's age is that he talks about Karl as if were a peer (they were apprentices together), and Karl has grey in his hair (some people age worse than others, and again the beard does not help).

The time lapse of the game is also problematic because the appearance of Hawke and all of Hawke's friends does not change. It's easier to consider that a person might not change too much from 23-30, but seems less likely from 33-40.

The only other thing I can point to as to how the writers use ages, David Gaider specifically, is in Asunder when Rhys is described as "rapidly approaching his fortieth" year, putting him from 37-39. In addition, if you examined the timelines carefully in his novels, you would be able to figure out how old Maric was when he ascended to the throne, how old Cailan was when Alistair (we assume it was Alistair, yes I know this is not confirmed) was born, the age Cailan was when he died, and infer how old Alistair was in DAO... All of which I'm not really going to examine at the moment, but it is possible through careful reading. (A disclaimer should be added the David says the timeline between the novels and the games is somewhat inaccurate.)

My point with the above paragraph is that unless it is specifically mentioned that a character is young (because of their experience or maturity level), like Maric in The Stolen Throne -- I also got the impression that Duncan was very young in The Calling, younger than 20 -- Dragon Age characters are skewed as older, mature people who have the considerable life experience to influence their personalities and opinions.

Read into that what you will about the ages of our various followers.

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Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Well IM resident curmudgeon so I just ****shame everyone....wait doesn't that make me a misanthrope?
Anyway, I figured the mages in the circle are like trust fund babies raised intheir wizard school without learning the basics of how to flush properly, while Apostates are the DIY nerds learing what they could off the internet without the proper common sense vibes.

Anything else I missed I'll just summ it up as Isabela is sex,sex,sex *gun shot*, Fenris age...seems late 20's to me and Dear lord Aldy that looks like an uncanny valley doll cosplaying..


Here's what I do: Google search: Fenris, then I hit the image button and find something I haven't seen before and post a link :D Honestly, I didn't like that picture but it was virginal for me so I posted it.

wait doesn't that make me a misanthrope?

That would be Fenris.

ROFL! trust fund babies? I am giggling like a mad hatter. Now wait... if apostates are on the Internet, like Anders, they are looking at porn not DIY sites, unless it somehow is related to porn.

I don't really like Isabela. Not because she puts it out there (ha!) but simply because she's too obvious. I peg Fenris at the beginning of DA2 at about 29.  

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aldien wrote...


wait doesn't that make me a misanthrope?

That would be Fenris.

I peg Fenris at the beginning of DA2 at about 29.  




See theres a reason I loved that character..and him ontop of Hawke. Also Brofist on that age..I'm not the only one![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]

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I've been meaning to look up Fenris dolls - just to see who was crafty enough to make one. By "dolls" I don't mean a plush toy, but rather the other kind:

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More here:
fenris 1
fenris 2
fenris 3
fenris 4

And a fem Hawke:

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I respect the craftsmanship!

 

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

I've been meaning to look up Fenris dolls - just to see who was crafty enough to make one. By "dolls" I don't mean a plush toy, but rather the other kind:

Posted Image

More here:
fenris 1
fenris 2
fenris 3
fenris 4

And a fem Hawke:

Posted Image

I respect the craftsmanship!

 


Is it wrong I ran to my room and hide under the covers after looking into those eyes...lifeless dolls eyes.

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you WUSS. jk

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I want to see one of Varric! They'd have to cut the doll in half and probably shave a ginger cat for the chest hair, but it would be worth it.

I can't imagine the skill it took to make those dolls, especially the clothing. Just think of each tiny stitch that went into Hawke's outfit. Pretty amazing and it is so detailed! That is an extremely talented artist.

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Nuh uh, Ghost. If they were porcelain I could understand. Plastic has some warmth to it.

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aldien wrote...

I want to see one of Varric! They'd have to cut the doll in half and probably shave a ginger cat for the chest hair, but it would be worth it.

I can't imagine the skill it took to make those dolls, especially the clothing. Just think of each tiny stitch that went into Hawke's outfit. Pretty amazing and it is so detailed! That is an extremely talented artist.


Or rooting the hair!

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Wow you guys. This is off topic, but I just had to say I am in love with Dragon Age Origins. I'm still crazy about Fenris, but Zevran is playing his cards right as of right now. Though - heart strings are being pulled. Alistair is giving me gifts. I smell tough decisions ahead.

p.s. I want to say that Zevran talks like Antonio Banderas, but to be more precise he talks like Puss in Boots. 

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I heard they sorta based Zevran off puss in boots so yes its weird. You wanna pet him to hear him purr except he'll just play with your boobs instead of yarn.

Also Yes Im a wuss, but thats some seriously creepy stuff to see a doll...uncanny valley people. inanimte dolls freak me out then photorealistic 3d generated people.

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Ghost_Nappa wrote...

I heard they sorta based Zevran off puss in boots so yes its weird. You wanna pet him to hear him purr except he'll just play with your boobs instead of yarn.

Also Yes Im a wuss, but thats some seriously creepy stuff to see a doll...uncanny valley people. inanimte dolls freak me out then photorealistic 3d generated people.


I understand. I am freaked out by the Buger King dude - on multiple levels. 

I am also scared of June Bugs. F*ck those things.

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I'm disturbed that they even made his freakishly long neck. Merrill's and Fenris' freakishly long necks have been bugging me lately. Oh god the worst scene is when Fenris interrogates that mage on the Wounded Coast during Bitter Pill. He twists his head in such a way... it's disturbing o.O

Uncanny Doll Hawke is very tra-la-la for a Champion of Kirkwall. Her little flipped out hand lol

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Wow you guys. This is off topic, but I just had to say I am in love with Dragon Age Origins. I'm still crazy about Fenris, but Zevran is playing his cards right as of right now. Though - heart strings are being pulled. Alistair is giving me gifts. I smell tough decisions ahead.


MmmmHm! You're in for it, alright. DA:O has got you hook, line and sinker. The drama, the romance! Daring Zevran or Adorable Alistair, who will win her heart? 

Just be sure to grab a hold of Oghren's empty spirit barrels when the ship goes down  ^_^

PS: Alistair always wins in my games. That's why I start with Zev. Trying to resist Alistair is so futile.. "I can't.. I just can't" </quote Fenris>