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[Dwarva]

dracuella wrote...

I accidentally watched a video on youtube of someone who let Danarius have Fenris. I was horrified. Even with the possibility in the game, there is NO way, I'm doing that. There are just some things I could never do!
Anyway, that scene go so severely stuck in my head that it sparked my mental film to go bat crazy and for the longest time, I couldn't stop imagining what happened to poor Fenris after that. One of the worst scenarios I thought of was one where he's on a cot pushed up against the wall in a dark, damp room after a day of being tormented by Danarius. Whipped, battered, broken into submission, he's lying in a semi-foetal position, face turned against the wall and you can see his shoulders shaking. The room is quiet except for his muffled sobbing and this again is only interrupted by him whispering to himself, "Why, Hawke.. Why?". It's not the abuse, it's not that he's back with Danarius; his pain is from the fact that the person he trusted the most could betray him. 

I don't know why I do this to myself, I really don't. I must have maschocistic tendencies 

I just watched this for the first time too.

It was the 'I need you' part that almost had me crying at my desk. He finally admits that to Hawke who then continues to ship him off to be a slave and have his memory wiped again. I could barely watch the damn thing, who chooses that in a playthrough??

[aldien]

dracuella wrote...

aldien wrote...
Hehehehe now I will want to do it more often. My imagination should be in solitairy confinement in a maximum security facility.

But, but, but I just want to know how Danrius did it so I can hate him more. Your poor delicate mind? I'm surprised you haven't fainted from the amount of Fenris flesh on this forum.

Oh but I have. Have I ever! It's even been recorded:

ROFL! DId you draw that? It is quite good '

I think the Fenris thread should come with the disclaimer: brain damage imminent.

Then look at Ren posting up the smut. I'm so proud.

I've noticed the newbies are getting as weird as the rest of us. Our job is complete.

[SurrealSadi]

Elijee wrote...

aldien wrote...

I've got lots of catching up to do on this thread, but I wanted to share this with you guys because it is the biggest reason I am going to move my stories permanently in the long run. Same boat with lots of reviews and regular readers but this really bothered me.

http://wtffanfiction...-fanfiction-net

Apparently FF net is okay with this. The thing that gets me is that I suspect the people they have "reviewed" are mostly young teens.So, it's okay to verbally abuse them but not let them write a bit of harmless smut. I also laughed because I realized these "reviews" violate ToS on FF.net. Anyway, thought I'd share because I know it effects people on this thread.

Good thing for DA writers is that I believe David Gaider said he isn't bothered by fanfiction. I love him for that want to beat him for other things.

I aslo read story deletion was up to 145k. Take with a grain of salt, but I do wonder if it is true.

Ren, as far as I know FF net hasn't actually said it is purging, but it most definitely is and it does it often without giving the author a chance to backup their stories. Will be spending my time backing up fav author's works that no longer maintain them :/

Delurking just to say... damn.  That's terrible.  As far as I'm concerned, that sort of verbal abuse is never warranted. =[  Warning someone that they're breaking the TOS is acceptable, but I wouldn't take a flamer seriously at all.  And then my story would be deleted for my troubles, I guess.

Back on topic, I also think Fenris may have had some idea of what he was competing for.  I think it had a lot to do with how Danarius might have phrased his description of the "prize" (and now the rest of my post will be read in Jacob Taylor's voice).  There's a huge difference in how people will interpret "the winner will become a warrior without peer" and "the winner will undergo an agonizing ritual in order to become a warrior without peer."  And the idea of being a respected warrior, even a bodyguard, must have held appeal for a slave--after all, it'd make sense for bodyguards to get better treatment than your average slave if the magister is entrusting their life to them.  That doesn't seem to have happened with Danarius (then again, I don't know what the standard of living for a Tevinter slave is), of course, but it might have been the expectation.

What I've heard about the purging is that it's highly possible FF.net is trying to get sponsors and ad content, and what company would sponser a website with *Gasp!* smut? How this theory came about was the purge along with the layout and submission changes all at once kinda set off red flags in people's minds. AO3 is a better site anyway.

[berelinde]

 Regarding the FF.net purge, has anybody read anything on the Critic's United forum? I have. Most of it, in fact. I have also read stories flagged because the reviewer was not sure whether the material constituted MA. I do not defend censorship. I detest it in every form. But the stuff that they were on the fence about was worse than any Dragon Age fic I have read EVER. Stuff so graphic it isn't even erotic anymore. More stretched orifices than snuggle time. Also, they don't seem to have anybody covering the DA fandom, for whatever that's worth.

So yes, back up your fics and investigate alternative hosting (I'm doing that, too), but I'm not sure there's any reason to panic.

If you're curious, the main reason fics were deleted was that they weren't actually stories. They were lists, author's notes, or scripts masquerading as fiction, e.g. "Billy: Blah, blah, blah" instead of "Billy said, 'Blah, blah, blah.'" They require members to submit a signed review before reporting a story for deletion, so there shouldn't be any ninja Fenris deltions.

Again, I want to make it clear that I do not support the group. They are patronizing bullies (Quoted from their guidelines: "We don't[/b] target writers, regardless of how stupid and annoying they are. "). They claim to be champions of spelling, grammar, and punctuation, but their forum posts demonstrate that they haven't the foggiest idea how those things work.  I am completely opposed in principle to the idea of placing limitations or restrictions on art (although I firmly believe in putting a warning label on the box). They are self-appointed and self-important, no doubt about it. But it isn't a total witch hunt.

So please, keep writing, don't let morons or prudes shackle you, and keep informed.

Edit: After reading up on AO3, I might just migrate my stuff there. The site seems to be better aligned with my philosophy on writing. Unfortunately, anyone who signs up today won't have in invitation to participate until November.

Modifié par berelinde, 07 juin 2012 - 03:38 .

[Dwarva]

I wondered if I could get some feedback from you guys?

I'm totally not creative enough to write or draw sadly but have tried a couple of Dragon Age character fashion sets over on Polyvore this afternoon. Normally I just do 'inspired by' type sets but haven't done them for characters before today. I just wondered if you guys thought I was heading in the right direction or am totally off the mark?

Constructive criticism totally appreciated!

Aveline by Emi
Merrill by Emi

Modifié par Staarbux, 07 juin 2012 - 03:47 .

[Sialater]

I love the tights for Merrill!

Though I think Aveline would wear long pants.

Modifié par Sialater, 07 juin 2012 - 03:52 .

[Dutchess]

@ berelinde: I looked up their forum after I saw the name mentioned here. I don't disagree with their goal to remove true "non-stories" from FF.net. I can understand that. And again, the purge is still on the admins, not on Critics United. Still, they do seem to be a bit on the... arrogant side.I got the vibe they do think they are pretty smart. Oh well. They indeed don't seem to focus on DA stories, so I hope the admins will do that too and leave the great smutty stories alone. xD

I think part of the problem may be that the definition of what mature and graphic content is, is quite arbitrary. At least I am not sure where to draw the line with that. I notice I am growing bolder and more confident while I continue writing, so my fic may shift more towards a more adult side.
Also, DA is a game for people of 18 years and older, so the audience for fiction should pretty much all be adults anyway. Although I might be wrong in thinking most people who read DA fics have actually played the game.

berelinde wrote...

Edit: After reading up on AO3, I might just migrate my stuff there. The site seems to be better aligned with my philosophy on writing. Unfortunately, anyone who signs up today won't have in invitation to participate until November.

What?? What makes that site so special you have to wait for half a year before you are worthy of participating? Don't know if I'm going to wait on that...

Modifié par renjility, 07 juin 2012 - 03:55 .

[Dwarva]

Sialater wrote...

I love the tights for Merrill!

Though I think Aveline would wear long pants.

Thanks hon. Aveline was actually pretty difficult to do because, having looked at similar things people do for other characters, they tend to pick dresses. I think it's basically to have a look inspired by the person. But in Aveline's case it was quite hard to get something girlie that also reflected her personality.

[Dutchess]

Staarbux wrote...

I wondered if I could get some feedback from you guys?

I'm totally not creative enough to write or draw sadly but have tried a couple of Dragon Age character fashion sets over on Polyvore this afternoon. Normally I just do 'inspired by' type sets but haven't done them for characters before today. I just wondered if you guys thought I was heading in the right direction or am totally off the mark?

Constructive criticism totally appreciated!

Aveline by Emi
Merrill by Emi

Merrill is definitely spot-on! Love the dress and the bag. Very cute.

I agree with Sialater on Aveline. The top is good, but the boots and short pants may be a bit too "girly" for our tough lady.  Hmm, but she is difficult. Perhaps a loose tunic and a bit ordinary pants, like what she is wearing when you meet her in the prologue?

[berelinde]

@renjility: The site is still a beta. They are limiting subscriptions so that they can control their rate of growth, avoid overwhelming their servers, avoid exceeding their bandwidth, etc. Donations don't seem to speed things up. I'd request an invite now, if I were you. The wait will not become shorter as time goes on.

[Sialater]

Uh, you don't have to wait to post, that I remember. I certainly didn't. But you WILL have to wait to get INVITES to pass out.

I've asked for three new invites. I'm waiting on them. Two have been spoken for.

[Dwarva]

renjility wrote...

Merrill is definitely spot-on! Love the dress and the bag. Very cute.

I agree with Sialater on Aveline. The top is good, but the boots and short pants may be a bit too "girly" for our tough lady.  Hmm, but she is difficult. Perhaps a loose tunic and a bit ordinary pants, like what she is wearing when you meet her in the prologue?

Thank you.

I think I might revise Aveline's when I get home and do a tunic and leather pants.

Isabela's is turning out to be the most difficult. Anything I put together just looks too.....whorish....even for her.



With regards to AO3, do you need an invite to read FF there or just post? If it's the former I'd love an invite if anyone has one to spare?

Modifié par Staarbux, 07 juin 2012 - 04:06 .

[Sialater]

Nope, not to read. You can even leave Kudos anonymously.

S'pose I should just put my DA2 fic on AO3 from the beginning.  But that means transferring over The Rescue...  maybe...

Modifié par Sialater, 07 juin 2012 - 04:09 .

[dracuella]

 I just wanted to lighten the mood after all the pondering of Fenris' markings and the bleh that was formerly known as FanFiction.net. So ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you a very young but most promising Fenris cosplayer. I know, I know, he's not nearly rugged enough (and possibly barely legal ) but his face in this picture.. I like it. Fenrisy. Young Fenris just after markings 


by darkyleon.deviantart.com

Modifié par dracuella, 07 juin 2012 - 04:54 .

[aldien]

dracuella wrote...

 I just wanted to lighten the mood after all the pondering of Fenris' markings and the bleh that was formerly known as FanFiction.net. So ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you a very young but most promising Fenris cosplayer. I know, I know, he's not nearly rugged enough (and possibly barely legal ) but his face in this picture.. I like it. Fenrisy. Young Fenris just after markings 


by darkyleon.deviantart.com

I know, he's not nearly rugged enough (and possibly barely legal 

Oh! ROFLMAO! That just made me giggle like an insane woman. I don't know why. Tickled me pink. 

Someone needs to tell him that he is standing in poison ivy.

I think I may become an Ao3 convert after perusing the site. It's really well done and they seem to be more on the side of the writer.

Sialater wrote...

Uh, you don't have to wait to post, that I remember. I certainly didn't. But you WILL have to wait to get INVITES to pass out.

I've asked for three new invites. I'm waiting on them. Two have been spoken for.

Okay I am going to sound stupid but you can post without an invite?

SurrealSadi wrote...

What I've heard about the purging is that it's highly possible FF.net is
trying to get sponsors and ad content, and what company would sponser a
website with *Gasp!* smut? How this theory came about was the purge
along with the layout and submission changes all at once kinda set off
red flags in people's minds. AO3 is a better site anyway.

Typical. <_< I'd happily pay money towards a quality fanfiction site where the moderators actually do their job from the start and you aren't presented with an ugly surprise at the end. Yeah, I know smut is against the ToS, but the problem is that if you let it go unchecked then it becomes the norm and only degenerates. My husband asked why do they not create two different sections, one for smut and one not for smut. It would keep people happy.

Modifié par aldien, 07 juin 2012 - 07:14 .

[aldien]

berelinde wrote...

 Regarding the FF.net purge, has anybody read anything on the Critic's United forum? I have. Most of it, in fact. I have also read stories flagged because the reviewer was not sure whether the material constituted MA. I do not defend censorship. I detest it in every form. But the stuff that they were on the fence about was worse than any Dragon Age fic I have read EVER. Stuff so graphic it isn't even erotic anymore. More stretched orifices than snuggle time. Also, they don't seem to have anybody covering the DA fandom, for whatever that's worth.

So yes, back up your fics and investigate alternative hosting (I'm doing that, too), but I'm not sure there's any reason to panic.

If you're curious, the main reason fics were deleted was that they weren't actually stories. They were lists, author's notes, or scripts masquerading as fiction, e.g. "Billy: Blah, blah, blah" instead of "Billy said, 'Blah, blah, blah.'" They require members to submit a signed review before reporting a story for deletion, so there shouldn't be any ninja Fenris deltions.

Again, I want to make it clear that I do not support the group. They are patronizing bullies (Quoted from their guidelines: "We don't[/b] target writers, regardless of how stupid and annoying they are. "). They claim to be champions of spelling, grammar, and punctuation, but their forum posts demonstrate that they haven't the foggiest idea how those things work.  I am completely opposed in principle to the idea of placing limitations or restrictions on art (although I firmly believe in putting a warning label on the box). They are self-appointed and self-important, no doubt about it. But it isn't a total witch hunt.

So please, keep writing, don't let morons or prudes shackle you, and keep informed.

Edit: After reading up on AO3, I might just migrate my stuff there. The site seems to be better aligned with my philosophy on writing. Unfortunately, anyone who signs up today won't have in invitation to participate until November.

stretched orifices

Is that when  you open your mouth too wide Sorry couldn't resist.

Also, they don't seem to have anybody covering the DA fandom, for whatever that's worth.

Now, see that is just an insult. We may not write stretched orifices but never let it be said that this group of people on this thread aren't some of the perviest of perverts.

I visited their forum. They are the biggest bunch of self ingratiating bastardos I have ever had the misfortune of reading. They are even worse than me Seriously, they really do love themselves.

Summary of Critics United thread: You are so great! No you are so great! No we are so great! Can I kiss your stretched orifice? No, please let me kiss your stretched orifice first. But, no I insist.

I say light up Fenris let him take out the magister want to be group.

Modifié par aldien, 07 juin 2012 - 07:30 .

[aldien]

Staarbux wrote...

I wondered if I could get some feedback from you guys?

I'm totally not creative enough to write or draw sadly but have tried a couple of Dragon Age character fashion sets over on Polyvore this afternoon. Normally I just do 'inspired by' type sets but haven't done them for characters before today. I just wondered if you guys thought I was heading in the right direction or am totally off the mark?

Constructive criticism totally appreciated!

Aveline by Emi
Merrill by Emi

I loved them! I thought it was extremely creative and Merrill's outfit was perfect. That looks like something that could get addictive. Put Aveline in tattered black jeans or something with studs on it. Anything pokey.

Can you do Bethany? :happy:

[Sialater]

aldien wrote...

dracuella wrote...

 I just wanted to lighten the mood after all the pondering of Fenris' markings and the bleh that was formerly known as FanFiction.net. So ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you a very young but most promising Fenris cosplayer. I know, I know, he's not nearly rugged enough (and possibly barely legal ) but his face in this picture.. I like it. Fenrisy. Young Fenris just after markings 


by darkyleon.deviantart.com

I know, he's not nearly rugged enough (and possibly barely legal 

Oh! ROFLMAO! That just made me giggle like an insane woman. I don't know why. Tickled me pink. 

Someone needs to tell him that he is standing in poison ivy.

I think I may become an Ao3 convert after perusing the site. It's really well done and they seem to be more on the side of the writer.

Sialater wrote...

Uh, you don't have to wait to post, that I remember. I certainly didn't. But you WILL have to wait to get INVITES to pass out.

I've asked for three new invites. I'm waiting on them. Two have been spoken for.

Okay I am going to sound stupid but you can post without an invite?

SurrealSadi wrote...

What I've heard about the purging is that it's highly possible FF.net is
trying to get sponsors and ad content, and what company would sponser a
website with *Gasp!* smut? How this theory came about was the purge
along with the layout and submission changes all at once kinda set off
red flags in people's minds. AO3 is a better site anyway.

Typical. <_< I'd happily pay money towards a quality fanfiction site where the moderators actually do their job from the start and you aren't presented with an ugly surprise at the end. Yeah, I know smut is against the ToS, but the problem is that if you let it go unchecked then it becomes the norm and only degenerates. My husband asked why do they not create two different sections, one for smut and one not for smut. It would keep people happy.

No, you can't.  You have to be invited to post a story.  You can't get invites to hand out to others for six months. 

Say, for instance, I give you an invite.  You sign up.  You can now post a story.  But you cannot invite others to come to AO3 for six months.  (If there is a waiting period to post a first story, it's no bigger than FF.net's)

[berelinde]

aldien wrote...

Typical. <_< I'd happily pay money towards a quality fanfiction site where the moderators actually do their job from the start and you aren't presented with an ugly surprise at the end. Yeah, I know smut is against the ToS, but the problem is that if you let it go unchecked then it becomes the norm and only degenerates. My husband asked why do they not create two different sections, one for smut and one not for smut. It would keep people happy.

The site split when they decided that MA material would no longer be included. The mature sister-site (which sounds really, really wrong) is adultfanfiction.net. The site gets little traffic, though. A lot of it is really, really horrible.

@Staarbux: I absolutely love what you are doing for the women of Dragon Age 2. I wish you would design my wardrobe. You have excellent taste. I wonder if they have a site like that for the guys. I wonder what you'd come up with for them.

[dracuella]

aldien wrote...
I know, he's not nearly rugged enough (and possibly barely legal 

Oh! ROFLMAO! That just made me giggle like an insane woman. I don't know why. Tickled me pink. 
Someone needs to tell him that he is standing in poison ivy.

O_O And bare feet too! Let's hope he has some sort of inbred Italian resistance to that stuff
PS: I really wouldn't know, I don't think we have poison ivy here in .dk

aldien wrote...
stretched orifices
Is that when  you open your mouth too wide [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie] Sorry couldn't resist.

Also, they don't seem to have anybody covering the DA fandom, for whatever that's worth.

Now, see that is just an insult. We may not write stretched orifices but never let it be said that this group of people on this thread aren't some of the perviest of perverts.

I visited their forum. They are the biggest bunch of self ingratiating bastardos I have ever had the misfortune of reading. They are even worse than me [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/kissing.png[/smilie] Seriously, they really do love themselves. 

Summary of Critics United thread: You are so great! No you are so great! No we are so great! Can I kiss your stretched orifice? No, please let me kiss your stretched orifice first. But, no I insist.
I say light up Fenris let him take out the magister want to be group. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

 
Pervs? Us? Noway wahahaha. I know, I know, we should be grateful the mods stay out of this thread due to the horrible side effects of long term exposure to Fenris fanboys and girls 
Ah I kid, I kid, I think we're moderating ourselves very nicely, tbh. The smutometer doesn't go higher than "delightfully naughty with a prospect of links to fanfic/pics" which I think is just about right for the public Bioware forum.
.. although the stretched orifices made me laugh out loud and hide my face in my hands 

aldien wrote...

Staarbux wrote...

I wondered if I could get some feedback from you guys?

I'm totally not creative enough to write or draw sadly but have tried a couple of Dragon Age character fashion sets over on Polyvore this afternoon. Normally I just do 'inspired by' type sets but haven't done them for characters before today. I just wondered if you guys thought I was heading in the right direction or am totally off the mark? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png[/smilie]
Constructive criticism totally appreciated! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/kissing.png[/smilie]

Aveline by Emi
Merrill by Emi

I loved them! I thought it was extremely creative and Merrill's outfit was perfect. That looks like something that could get addictive. Put Aveline in tattered black jeans or something with studs on it. Anything pokey. 

Can you do Bethany? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]

 
Aldien you spamhat <3
.. oh and on that note I would LOVE to see some Fenris threads! I'm sure he'd look dazzling in a black kilt! Or some Pride and Prejudice gentlemens outfits! Or or or...!! 

[Dwarva]

aldien wrote...

Staarbux wrote...

I wondered if I could get some feedback from you guys?

I'm totally not creative enough to write or draw sadly but have tried a couple of Dragon Age character fashion sets over on Polyvore this afternoon. Normally I just do 'inspired by' type sets but haven't done them for characters before today. I just wondered if you guys thought I was heading in the right direction or am totally off the mark?

Constructive criticism totally appreciated!

Aveline by Emi
Merrill by Emi

I loved them! I thought it was extremely creative and Merrill's outfit was perfect. That looks like something that could get addictive. Put Aveline in tattered black jeans or something with studs on it. Anything pokey.

Can you do Bethany? :happy:

Yep. Bethany is on my list. As is Isabela, Morrigan, Leliana, Wynne and Orana.

The boys are a LOT harder to do IMO but I'm going to give Fenris a go because I have something in mind.

[aldien]

dracuella  wrote...
Aldien you spamhat <3
.. oh and on that note I would LOVE to see some Fenris threads! I'm sure he'd look dazzling in a black kilt! Or some Pride and Prejudice gentlemens outfits! Or or or...!! 

Doth my eyes decieveth me or have you foul creature nameth me spamhat?



Yes you can buy it.


Orifices are always funny, even the word is funny. Reminds me of oreos when I say it. 

Hmmmmmm oreos in your orifice....

Oh! Fenris would make an excellent Mr. Darcy. *swoons* Well, if nothing else the imagery is nice.

Modifié par aldien, 07 juin 2012 - 08:46 .

[Dwarva]

aldien wrote...

Hmmmmmm oreos in your orifice....

I just choked on my coffee. And not in the good way.



Edit: Also......Bethany

Modifié par Staarbux, 08 juin 2012 - 09:32 .

[dracuella]

Staarbux wrote...
Edit: Also......Bethany

Ooooh yes, this is very, very pretty and feminine, just perfect for Bethany. I'll be looking forward to the guys 

[aldien]

Staarbux wrote...

aldien wrote...

Hmmmmmm oreos in your orifice....

I just choked on my coffee. And not in the good way.



Edit: Also......Bethany

Bethany is very well done You have a gift for this. Are you going to attempt Meredith? I see power suit written all over that one.

Maybe it doesn't exactly conjure images of rolling hills and butterflies. Hmmmm...

I was going to go back and catch up but I figure that will probably annoy everyone if I bring up old chats, though I might. Just heard the Arishok in this cartoon my daughter is watching.Weird.

So, here is a question:

Act II after Fenris tells his story about the Fog warriors you can suggest that Hawke and he become more than friends. Fenris replies with  I didn't think I needed anyone or wanted anyone until now. After that, if you go to the Hanged Man and talk with Isabela she says: speaking of romance... you and Fenris eh? Also, Varric knows, but he was probably in Fenris's mansion taking notes that night

My question is how does everyone know Hawke and Fenris are together? It confused me that everyone else knew they were a couple but me!

Does this mean it can be assumed that they are displaying some sort of affection for each other in front of their friends? I don't see Hawke or Fenris as the type to feel the need to tell everyone that there is something going on between them. So... hmmmm

Modifié par aldien, 08 juin 2012 - 12:29 .