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[aldien]

motomotogirl wrote...

Pffffffft Okay but now that reminds me of someone who recently drew a pic of pregnant Fenris demanding that Hawke fetch him some Tevinter cookies xDDD

I've yet to see gross and nasty tasteless Fenris x FemHawke art but I'm sure it's out there >.< Seriously though I think I've seen so many Rated XXX M!Hawke x Fenris stuff that I'm just like, aghghghgh can you guys please stop now?! Although yes there's definitely some sweet stuff out there on par with the lovely FemHawke x Fen art.

But I think with the weird sex positions it's down to m/m fans tending to be younger and, uh, not actually knowing anything about the male anatomy *facepalm*

I mean I just saw a pic where Fenny's dick was like where his, um, other opening should be. Sorry for the euphemism, trying to keep it clean xD

I wonder what Tevinter cookies would have in them? Could you imagine Danarius asking for his nightly glass of milk and his cookies?

Oh it's out there. Isabela usually gets thrown in so you go out with a big bang threesome.

I mean I just saw a pic where Fenny's dick was like where his, um, other
opening should be. Sorry for the euphemism, trying to keep it clean

But, see that's so over the top it is funny. Reminds me of the poseable rubber guy I had that sat on top of my pencil eraser when I was a kid. You have totally corrupted that for me now, Moto.

Have you ever thought about finding an artist whose work you like and commissioning something?

Modifié par aldien, 14 juin 2012 - 07:54 .

[CuriousArtemis]

aldien wrote...

Have you ever thought about finding an artist whose work you like and commissioning something?

In my dreams!! First of all, which Hawke would I use?!  They are all so cute  *wibble*

Secondly, I understand you have to pay the artists  I sadly do not have that kind of disposable income!

I envy Ghost's amazing commission 

[MissRedZelda]

Gieon Emery has a voice that makes me blush. It all began waaaay back in 2006 with a certain final fantasy game...

As for Alistair, I fell for him almost as quickly as I fell for Fenris. In response to the confession image on the last page. (I missed it. Timezone difference) . . . I FREAKIN' KNOW, RIGHT!!! Just, I always play as a human female mage (for some reason, I've never liked the Cousland origin), and I either harden Alistair and become his mistress, or the two of us (most of the time) give Anora the crown and run off into the sunset to do . . . Warden-y things.

[CuriousArtemis]

Hey, I like mpreg! Anywho Preggers Fenris was on the askfenris (I think) blog on tumblr and someone wanted to see what would happen if he got knocked up and how Hawke would react xD The art was hilarious, too, cause he was all glowy with rage as he yelled at poor Hawke.

Has anyone played the dwarf origins? I think I might try romancing Alistair (again) with a dwarf girl. Maybe the Cousland route was tooo boring for me. I never even like my male Cousland.

[MissRedZelda]

Pregnant Fenris? Why . . .? Just . . . why? Poor man.

But no, I've nevr played the Dwarf origin. I prefer the Magi and the Dalish origins.

Modifié par MissRedZelda, 15 juin 2012 - 03:14 .

[CuriousArtemis]

With mpreg you are not supposed to think of the mechanics of the deed but of the pure love the two guys share, now expressed in the form of a perfect infant! xD

Okay I started a noble dwarf playthrough and damn, I am really liking the way all the guard dudes are all, "My lady" this and "My lady" that. That's right, beetches, BOW TO ME!

Alistair has no idea what's coming for him.

[MissRedZelda]

I would still not wish such a thing on a man. Pregnancy for women is torture enough. Adoption all the way for Fenris and M!HAwke, I say.

I still really dislike the Cousland origin. Probably because I'm kinda peeved that that's the only origin where the lady can legitimately have Alistair. Also, I love the whole "bastard prince falls in love with a hated and mistrusted Mage girl" star-crossed lovers thing. The romance is far more dramatic in that they have to overcome obstacles to be together. With the Cousland origin, you can marry Alistair even if the two of you hate each other.

That kinda thing really cheapens the romance.

Modifié par MissRedZelda, 15 juin 2012 - 04:50 .

[Dutchess]

A bit late perhaps, but the Dwarven noble origin is, in my opinion, one of the best origins in the game. The Dwarven commmoner one is pretty cool too, but noble is the best. I love how arrogant you can act there. "Gorrim, why is this man talking to me?" Haha.





both images by aimo

[aldien]

motomotogirl wrote...

With mpreg you are not supposed to think of the mechanics of the deed but of the pure love the two guys share, now expressed in the form of a perfect infant! xD

Okay I started a noble dwarf playthrough and damn, I am really liking the way all the guard dudes are all, "My lady" this and "My lady" that. That's right, beetches, BOW TO ME!

Alistair has no idea what's coming for him.

With mpreg you are not supposed to think of the mechanics of the deed
but of the pure love the two guys share, now expressed in the form of a
perfect infant! xD

Yes, because obviously a woman and Fenris would end up with some icky looking reject baby.

The mechanics of the deed is part of what makes procreation an amazing feat for women who choose to have children. (notice I said those who choose to have them)


Fenris is male. He will never be able to bear children (thank the Maker) and I find it an insult to women everywhere who go through the grueling process to bring it down to penis level. Poof! Baby comes out and it is perfect because their love is so magical. NO! It would be hideously deformed and hotdog shaped, or maybe it is a one off and Fenris's penis explodes after the last push. His sacrifice was worth it in order to have the perfect baby, nevermind the fact he now looks more womanly in the nether regions than manly.

Adoption makes sense and is completely admirable. Making a man (who has not chosen to become a woman) to function like a woman  is an insult to men and women no matter their sexual preference.

I have to wonder if Fenris wasn't so pretty (as you say) if you would still consider him worthy of your Hawke.

He is not a girl Moto! Honestly... *takes deep breath*

Modifié par aldien, 15 juin 2012 - 11:12 .

[MissRedZelda]

I'm 60% sure moto might have been joking about the whole mpreg thing, but I still agree with you, aldien. Pregnancy and childbirth is torture, and Fenris has probably been through enough of it.

[CuriousArtemis]

renjility wrote...

A bit late perhaps, but the Dwarven noble origin is, in my opinion, one of the best origins in the game. The Dwarven commmoner one is pretty cool too, but noble is the best. I love how arrogant you can act there. "Gorrim, why is this man talking to me?" Haha.

Haha Yes I loved that!!!! I totally chose that option at every opportunity xD  And I have to be honest ... I kind of wanted her to hook up with Gorim. I mean, fugly and dwarfy as the guy is, he is DEVOTED to her.  I think it sucks he had to go down with her ... like, I understand it's all part of the story about how to get this particular character into the Grey Wardens, but realistically, why wouldn't he have joined her?  He should have gone with her... I mean, if he was that devoted (and he was).

Sigh.  Anyway, it's fun to play a character that's so different from Hawke or even any of my cute boy elves from DA:O. I'm not really feeling Alistair, but I know the relationship will grow on me.

I'm thinking I will make this a somewhat canon playthrough ... hence giving me a reason to import it into DA2 and start yet another Hawke x Fenris playthrough xD

p.s. I love aimo's art so much.  She makes Fenris so much more ... approachable? I guess is the word.  Her M!Hawke is a bit too manly for my tastes.  But Fenris is super adorbs.

Modifié par motomotogirl, 16 juin 2012 - 04:28 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

Well Im gone for a few days and we talk about.....male preggers. Only seahorses can get that pass. Anything else is just an Alien chestburster.

Aldien and Fearunner have pretty much said what I have thought of...and lets be frank my brain is just turning into mush. Aldy need to chat with you soon on that painting commission.

Other than that I'll just refil my duty as picture upoader. Tadah.

[dracuella]

aldien wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...
With mpreg you are not supposed to think of the mechanics of the deed but of the pure love the two guys share, now expressed in the form of a perfect infant! xD

With mpreg you are not supposed to think of the mechanics of the deed but of the pure love the two guys share, now expressed in the form of a perfect infant! xD

Yes, because obviously a woman and Fenris would end up with some icky looking reject baby.

The mechanics of the deed is part of what makes procreation an amazing feat for women who choose to have children. (notice I said those who choose to have them)

Fenris is male. He will never be able to bear children (thank the Maker) and I find it an insult to women everywhere who go through the grueling process to bring it down to penis level. Poof! Baby comes out and it is perfect because their love is so magical. NO! It would be hideously deformed and hotdog shaped, or maybe it is a one off and Fenris's penis explodes after the last push. His sacrifice was worth it in order to have the perfect baby, nevermind the fact he now looks more womanly in the nether regions than manly.

Adoption makes sense and is completely admirable. Making a man (who has not chosen to become a woman) to function like a woman  is an insult to men and women no matter their sexual preference.

I have to wonder if Fenris wasn't so pretty (as you say) if you would still consider him worthy of your Hawke.

He is not a girl Moto! Honestly... *takes deep breath*

Faerunner wrote...

aldien wrote...
With mpreg you are not supposed to think of the mechanics of the deed but of the pure love the two guys share, now expressed in the form of a perfect infant! xD

Yes, because obviously a woman and Fenris would end up with some icky looking reject baby. 

The mechanics of the deed is part of what makes procreation an amazing feat for women who choose to have children. (notice I said those who choose to have them)

Fenris is male. He will never be able to bear children (thank the Maker) and I find it an insult to women everywhere who go through the grueling process to bring it down to penis level. Poof! Baby comes out and it is perfect because their love is so magical. NO! It would be hideously deformed and hotdog shaped, or maybe it is a one off and Fenris's penis explodes after the last push. His sacrifice was worth it in order to have the perfect baby, nevermind the fact he now looks more womanly in the nether regions than manly.

I agree with this. Not only is male pregnancy scientifically improbable to the highest degree (read: just a notch under impossible), but treating pregnancy so flippantly is rather insulting to all who undergo the trials and tribulations of pregnancy.

To be honest though, the idea of true love being expressed in the form of a baby, or that perfect love makes a perfect baby, is also insulting in other ways in my book. I could be wrong, but the attitude behind it seems to be that it's not really love unless the couple mix their DNA and have a kid together, even if the two partners are the same gender (because clearly adoption, fostering, one partner having a child with a sperm donor or surrogate or raising a child that one partner already had from a previous relationship doesn't count) or that if the child is ordinary or unattractive, then it's not good enough. Babies are not little trophies that couples win for having the best relationship, nor should they be treated like little status symbols to flaunt over other couples. 

Just because two people fall in love doesn't mean they need to have a baby to prove it. And if they do happen to have a baby, it shouldn't have to come out of one of their bodies and have the genetics of both partners. The idea of mpreg is - to me - not only insulting in regards to the physical dangers and difficulties of real-life pregnancy, but also insulting to all couples of all kinds in regards to the emotional, psychological and social significance of child-rearing (or lack thereof). 

aldien wrote...

Adoption makes sense and is completely admirable. Making a man (who has not chosen to become a woman) to function like a woman is an insult to men and women no matter their sexual preference.

I have to wonder if Fenris wasn't so pretty (as you say) if you would still consider him worthy of your Hawke.

He is not a girl Moto! Honestly... *takes deep breath*

I agree. On top of the other unintentionally insulting implications that mpreg poses, there's also the issue of imposing heteronormative standards on a same-sex couple like M!Hawke and Fenris. (Which I personally suspect to be a subconsciously homophobic mindset, but I don't have time to get into it.) Suffice it to say, I agree that just because Hawke is taller, broader and as a more dominant personality and Fenris is shorter, thinner and has a more submissive personality doesn't mean they need to fall into traditional heterosexual gender roles, with Hawke as "the man," Fenris as "the woman," and having a baby that Fenris carries to term. 

I can't speak for Hawke, but Fenris is a man. (A bisexual man, but a man none-the-less.) Let him be a man.

I'm sorry Moto. You're entitled to your tastes and opinions and I'm sure you mean well, but some of the... um, ships that you support have some questionable cargo in them, even if you don't know they're there. I don't want to insult or upset you (Lord knows I have some weird tastes of my own) but there are some unfortunate implications of mpreg to consider...

 


Okay.. Let's all just take a DEEP breath here. 
We all agree here, this is make-belief, right? We can wish for and imagine anything we want. I'm sure there are gay men out there who would LOVE to be able to create a child together and carry it themselves, would they be wrong in wishing so? Saying somebody imagining it is an insult to women who go through pregnancy is blowing it out of proportions and makes me think you're reading way to much into this. So what if Moto disregards the technical details of pregnancy? Isn't she's going straight to what's really important about it: two people who love each other so much they want to express it by sharing the joy of having a child together. No, it is not a trophy. No, it is not required in any way for a relationship to be truly 'true love'. It is just two people showing complete trust in the one they're with and the love they share. 

I see no disrespect at all in this. Nobody is trying to downplay a woman's part in the excrutiating experience pregnancy can be in our world. But in an alternate universe (or a fantasy world such as, say, Thedas) why should the idea be discarded directly? In Real Life™ is it improbable? Well yes. Impossible even? Most likely so. But this is FANTASY. It is no more improbably to have a man carry (and give birth to) a child than it is to assume we can be possessed by a spirit from beyond the Veil or that someone can heal STDs by hovering their hands over somebody's... err.. parts. If we must throw 'impossible' in play, we should have stopped playing the day they announced a game with elves. Or magic. Or Darkspawn. Dragons. GRIFFINS! Okay, I'm stopping now but I hope you get my idea. 

Lastly a 'fun' fact: no, children born through penises do not become hotdog shaped, Aldien Female hyenas do it all the time. If you want to hear more: http://newfoundlandn...hyena-ouch.html 

Modifié par dracuella, 16 juin 2012 - 07:56 .

[MissRedZelda]

Soooooooo to lighten the mood, here's some F!Hawke/Fenris!


by *aimo

[CuriousArtemis]

Thanks, dracuella ^^ *hugs* With mean/aggressive posts lately I have learned and decided to just ignore them. I would much rather talk about Fenriiiiiis hehehe, I mean, since this is the Fenris thread

OMG Those female hyenas! Well I for one would not want to squeeze a baby out of ANY bodily orifice, but certainly not a super-clitoris like that LOL

Hey in ME they had an all female race; I am waiting for the chance to play an all male race! And they're all cute and yummy like Fenris xD Sooo some kind of elf-like all male race. I'm thinking something similar to the wraeththu, if you've read Storm Constantine's novels anyone. I always imagined the wraeththu would look similar to Fenris, minus the ears, of course, since they are descended from humans.

[MissRedZelda]

motomotogirl wrote...

Hey in ME they had an all female race; I am waiting for the chance to play an all male race! And they're all cute and yummy like Fenris xD Sooo some kind of elf-like all male race. I'm thinking something similar to the wraeththu, if you've read Storm Constantine's novels anyone. I always imagined the wraeththu would look similar to Fenris, minus the ears, of course, since they are descended from humans.

Weeeeel, the Salarian population is 90% male, if that counts.

[aldien]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

Well Im gone for a few days and we talk about.....male preggers. Only seahorses can get that pass. Anything else is just an Alien chestburster.

Aldien and Fearunner have pretty much said what I have thought of...and lets be frank my brain is just turning into mush. Aldy need to chat with you soon on that painting commission.

Other than that I'll just refil my duty as picture upoader. Tadah.

That is absolutely gorgeous! I couldn't get the link to work :/ If you need to chat it has to be tonight because I am heading out on vacation tomorrow and I have no idea if I will have Internet since it is in the middle of nowhere. :/

[aldien]

If Moto can complain when we talk about too much traditional crap (her words) then I can complain when she makes Fenris into a baby making machine.Yes, it is all make believe and yes I am all for people imagining what they want, until they try and railroad a discussion into their favor through manipulation and carefully selected word choice. Time and time again there are these nasty little underhanded remarks that make me (and whoever happens to agree with me on the day) sound like the bully and her the victim, when in actuality we both just have huge varying opinions on the matter. But if I dare speak how I see Fenris then it is completely unfair. I'm suddenly the minority beater because I have more traditional crap views. 

How many of you went off on the I don't see Hawke with a baby tangent when I mentioned Fenris and Hawke having children? Then you are no different than me when I went off on my Fenris not being a woman tangent.


Whatever... I'll say what I please and I guess just be the big bad wolf. 

You can lower the view to whatever denominator you want be it wolf or whatever. Differing opinions are valid no matter how other species procreate.

Modifié par aldien, 17 juin 2012 - 12:03 .

[MissRedZelda]

I personally don't see what's wrong with Female Hawke and Fenris having kids. Just because Female Hawke is now a Mother doesn't mean she's suddenly turned into a non-violent simpering woman. In fact, I could see her becoming more of a total Mama Bear.

[aldien]

MissRedZelda wrote...

I personally don't see what's wrong with Female Hawke and Fenris having kids. Just because Female Hawke is now a Mother doesn't mean she's suddenly turned into a non-violent simpering woman. In fact, I could see her becoming more of a total Mama Bear.

Totally agree. She would have more to lose and be all that more determined to keep it safe. Plus, I'm certain she would teach her children how to protect themseves and encourage them to take on independent roles. I could never imagine Hawke sitting at home darning socks and knitting.

I always liked the idea of Hawke crafting her own armor and weapons, whether staff, sword, bow or whatever. Those are the sort of skills along with martial skill and her general bad assness that I can see her passing on to her children. It's the Malcolm Hawke legacy continued to a new generation.

I guess I just like the idea of a person that came from Hawke and Fenris. They would have all the knowledge passed down by their parents and hopefully their skill. It just seems like an awesome combination.

Modifié par aldien, 17 juin 2012 - 12:36 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

aldien wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

I personally don't see what's wrong with Female Hawke and Fenris having kids. Just because Female Hawke is now a Mother doesn't mean she's suddenly turned into a non-violent simpering woman. In fact, I could see her becoming more of a total Mama Bear.

Totally agree. She would have more to lose and be all that more determined to keep it safe. Plus, I'm certain she would teach her children how to protect themseves and encourage them to take on independent roles. I could never imagine Hawke sitting at home darning socks and knitting.

I always liked the idea of Hawke crafting her own armor and weapons, whether staff, sword, bow or whatever. Those are the sort of skills along with martial skill and her general bad assness that I can see her passing on to her children. It's the Malcolm Hawke legacy continued to a new generation.

I guess I just like the idea of a person that came from Hawke and Fenris. They would have all the knowledge passed down by their parents and hopefully their skill. It just seems like an awesome combination.

As I am on the fence about railroading two characters I would like to see bone and pop out mini me's...I can legimately say I have respect/thing for warrior mothers protecting their young in this romantic nomadic mongol lifestyle. That and I just know Im gonna get an assignment like this for junior studio....but let me paint you a picture on Mama hawke:

(Rolly hill is shown to the viewer as a couple of shepards and their sheep are strolling by. Nearby is a dying maple tree with leaves fluttering down. Occasionally the leaves drop atop of a sleeping little bundle that is napping.

A hand appears to move the leaf showing an aged Hawke in simple clothes looking down at the child with a warm smile.)
 "You should be quiet while you come out. It took me awhile to get him asleep."

(Several armed figures appear looking at her menacingly)

"You should know Champion we wont go easy on you and the babe. So don't expect any mercy from us."

"Funny," (she flicks two daggers out taking out two of his men) "I never expected yout."

(The wind picks up as Hawke speed as swords clanging is muted out. Smoke bombs are being thrown as men fall like the leaves from the tree making the battle seem one sided...when its been actually trapped to the void.
One man stumbles from a backstab clutching his leader's leg. The leadr cuts the man's hand off as he runs toward the baby, hoping to use it as a shield. Before he can reach a kick suddenly bursts through his abdomen making him double over in pain. HE looks to see the baby fuss and yawn when he feels cold steel at his throart and a hand tugging his head back.)

"Shhhhh, hush love."

(Hawke slits his throat quickly cleaning the blades on th deadman's shirt. Walking over to the baby she wraps him around a sling, resting on her chest.)

"I guess we should meet up with your father earlier than expected. Care to visit your Aunty for a quick stay?"

(She walks away from the tree as the last of the leaves flutter through the wind as th scene pans out to show the sheep eating the grass with no shepards in sight.)


I could fix that up since it seemes really rushed to me, but it was on the spot.