Aller au contenu

Photo

The Official Fenris Discussion thread


55380 réponses à ce sujet

#51401
dracuella

dracuella
  • Members
  • 213 messages

aldien wrote...
If Moto can complain when we talk about too much traditional crap (her words) then I can complain when she makes Fenris into a baby making machine.Yes, it is all make believe and yes I am all for people imagining what they want, until they try and railroad a discussion into their favor through manipulation and carefully selected word choice.

 
aldien, we already talked about that comment, the 'traditional crap' thing and I know you took offence by it. Moto told us her family were all having babies and even trying to poke fun at her not wanting any and so she felt it was all becoming a bit too much. I am not trying to be a smartarse but is it possibly the other way around with you? Do you take a lot of flak for being a 'standard family' person? I only ask as it seems to me you react very strongly when the traditional views are up for debate. Anyway, I wish you could see that it wasn't a personal attack on you and that she was referring to her personal situation. 

  
Time and time again there are these nasty little underhanded remarks that make me (and whoever happens to agree with me on the day) sound like the bully and her the victim, when in actuality we both just have huge varying opinions on the matter.

 
I may be daft but just don't see where you read those 'nasty little underhanded remarks'. The only reason I reacted was that it seemed to me you both answered rather harshly to an innocent comment on someone's mention of a picture of pregnant Fenris which was not an attempt at trying to railroad the conversation. It felt unkind to me and if it had been a reply to one of my comments, I would have felt hurt and slightly ridiculed. 

But if I dare speak how I see Fenris then it is completely unfair. I'm suddenly the minority beater because I have more traditional crap views. 

 No aldien, please don't think that, you misunderstand completely. There isn't anything unfair in you talking about Hawke as a mother, no one has said that. We're here to discuss freely, right? Share views and headcanons. And as for the 'traditional crap',  it was one comment, placed out of frustration and poorly worded, please can't you let it go? 

 
How many of you went off on the I don't see Hawke with a baby tangent when I mentioned Fenris and Hawke having children? Then you are no different than me when I went off on my Fenris not being a woman tangent.

Yes, true, we talked about the non-baby scenario but we were just talking about how we saw it, we didn't in any way try to bash your views. If you felt that way, I sincerely apologise and hope you can see that that wasn't anyone's intention. We are not here to put anyone down, none of us!

 
Whatever... I'll say what I please and I guess just be the big bad wolf. 

You can lower the view to whatever denominator you want be it wolf or whatever. Differing opinions are valid no matter how other species procreate.

The hyena thing was just for laughs since you talked about hotdog shaped babies which brought extremely amusing imagery to my mind. It was just an odd fact I was reminded of when reading your words, I wasn't trying to talk down to you or anything like that. I'm sorry if it came across that way, that was never my intention :mellow:

And I apologise to all of you for continuing this, I just needed to explain myself so there were no misunderstandings. I really like this thread and the people here, I have lots of fun reading what you all think and I want us all to feel that way. ...I'll stop talking now.

Modifié par dracuella, 17 juin 2012 - 02:54 .


#51402
aldien

aldien
  • Members
  • 1 018 messages

dracuella wrote...

aldien wrote...
If Moto can complain when we talk about too much traditional crap (her words) then I can complain when she makes Fenris into a baby making machine.Yes, it is all make believe and yes I am all for people imagining what they want, until they try and railroad a discussion into their favor through manipulation and carefully selected word choice.

 
aldien, we already talked about that comment, the 'traditional crap' thing and I know you took offence by it. Moto told us her family were all having babies and even trying to poke fun at her not wanting any and so she felt it was all becoming a bit too much. I am not trying to be a smartarse but is it possibly the other way around with you? Do you take a lot of flak for being a 'standard family' person? I only ask as it seems to me you react very strongly when the traditional views are up for debate. Anyway, I wish you could see that it wasn't a personal attack on you and that she was referring to her personal situation. 

  
Time and time again there are these nasty little underhanded remarks that make me (and whoever happens to agree with me on the day) sound like the bully and her the victim, when in actuality we both just have huge varying opinions on the matter.

 
I may be daft but just don't see where you read those 'nasty little underhanded remarks'. The only reason I reacted was that it seemed to me you both answered rather harshly to an innocent comment on someone's mention of a picture of pregnant Fenris which was not an attempt at trying to railroad the conversation. It felt unkind to me and if it had been a reply to one of my comments, I would have felt hurt and slightly ridiculed. 

But if I dare speak how I see Fenris then it is completely unfair. I'm suddenly the minority beater because I have more traditional crap views. 

 No aldien, please don't think that, you misunderstand completely. There isn't anything unfair in you talking about Hawke as a mother, no one has said that. We're here to discuss freely, right? Share views and headcanons. And as for the 'traditional crap',  it was one comment, placed out of frustration and poorly worded, please can't you let it go? 

 
How many of you went off on the I don't see Hawke with a baby tangent when I mentioned Fenris and Hawke having children? Then you are no different than me when I went off on my Fenris not being a woman tangent.

Yes, true, we talked about the non-baby scenario but we were just talking about how we saw it, we didn't in any way try to bash your views. If you felt that way, I sincerely apologise and hope you can see that that wasn't anyone's intention. We are not here to put anyone down, none of us!

 
Whatever... I'll say what I please and I guess just be the big bad wolf. 

You can lower the view to whatever denominator you want be it wolf or whatever. Differing opinions are valid no matter how other species procreate.

The hyena thing was just for laughs since you talked about hotdog shaped babies which brought extremely amusing imagery to my mind. It was just an odd fact I was reminded of when reading your words, I wasn't trying to talk down to you or anything like that. I'm sorry if it came across that way, that was never my intention :mellow:

And I apologise to all of you for continuing this, I just needed to explain myself so there were no misunderstandings. I really like this thread and the people here, I have lots of fun reading what you all think and I want us all to feel that way. ...I'll stop talking now.



aldien, we already talked about that comment, the 'traditional crap'
thing and I know you took offence by it. Moto told us her family were
all having babies and even trying to poke fun at her not wanting any and
so she felt it was all becoming a bit too much. I am not trying to be a
smartarse but is it possibly the other way around with you? Do you take
a lot of flak for being a 'standard family' person? I only ask as
it seems to me you react very strongly when the traditional views are up
for debate. Anyway, I wish you could see that it wasn't a personal
attack on you and that she was referring to her personal situation.


I took offense at it for various reasons. Mostly, because I saw the thread deflate and people back away.

On this forum I take a lot of flak for my opinions because it's not the consensus. Have done from day 1. As far as this particular instance goes, we were all having fun, Moto railroaded the conversation so she could talk about what she wanted and then managed to be insulting at the same time. If anyone comes along and says: hey, can we talk about this? or just starts talking, they never get ignored and no one begrudges them for a change in topic. But, when someone comes along and makes people feel like what they are discussing is uncomfortable for them to read, then everyone feels they should stop. My suggestion is that if you don't like what is being discussed then add in your own conversation or wait until people are finished. You don't throw in your personal problems in order to change the conversation to your favor. That is called manipulation. That's how I see it and I apoologize if I misinterpreted it.

There is a history here that you are not aware of and I understand that you are trying to help, but I doubt there is any help for this.


Yes, true, we talked about the non-baby scenario but we were just
talking about how we saw it, we didn't in any way try to bash your
views. If you felt that way, I sincerely apologise and hope you can see
that that wasn't anyone's intention. We are not here to put anyone down,
none of us!


Well... I could have started the: 'Fenris can't have a baby because he is not a woman club', but remembered that kind of stung when it was said to me and decided against it. Plus, I knew no one meant offense. But, yeah, I felt singled out a bit.

In case it is coming across wrong, I am not putting Moto down for her views. It's the delivery that annoys me, as if it is the only way things should be and everyone should agree and when they don't we, usually me, is a bully.

The hyena thing was just for laughs since you talked about hotdog shaped
babies which brought extremely amusing imagery to my mind. It was just
an odd fact I was reminded of when reading your words, I wasn't trying
to talk down to you or anything like that. I'm sorry if it came across
that way, that was never my intention [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png[/smilie]

And
I apologise to all of you for continuing this, I just needed to explain
myself so there were no misunderstandings. I really like this thread
and the people here, I have lots of fun reading what you all think and I
want us all to feel that way. ...I'll stop talking now.


LOL! I did laugh. :lol: I apologize. I was on the defensive at that point and being a biatch.

I have never thought you are trying to talk down to me. Moto and I just don't get along. And I was trying to be funny when it came to the hotdog shaped baby. :lol: who could take that seriously?

I apologize as well. I let things get to me and get defensive. You are very sweet for trying to work it out. You did nothing wrong and I am sorry if I made it seem that way. I was asked to come back and help the thread get running again. Think I might be making things worse. *hugs to you all*

Gone for 4 days. Hopefully the thread will pick back up while I am away. Have fun!

#51403
CuriousArtemis

CuriousArtemis
  • Members
  • 19 656 messages
Umm just for the record, I pretty much like everyone and get along with everyone, so please don't be afraid to talk to me, everybody! Especially any lurkers! :P


[feeling a bit like Fenris and dracuella is my hot and sexy Hawke come to save me, weeee! :o] <-- See you can turn any situation, even the most unpleasant ones, into a fangirl moment.

#51404
MissRedZelda

MissRedZelda
  • Members
  • 475 messages
Posted Image

#51405
SilverIceQueen

SilverIceQueen
  • Members
  • 8 messages
I love Gideon Emery! Oh do I melt for that voice!

#51406
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

SilverIceQueen wrote...

I love Gideon Emery! Oh do I melt for that voice!


He seems like a really nice guy... which is more than I can say for one particular DA2 VO lol.

#51407
CuriousArtemis

CuriousArtemis
  • Members
  • 19 656 messages

LolaLei wrote...

SilverIceQueen wrote...

I love Gideon Emery! Oh do I melt for that voice!


He seems like a really nice guy... which is more than I can say for one particular DA2 VO lol.


omg WHO?????????

I also love Giddy's voice.  I was just thinking how he could easily voice a human or a dwarf.  (People are always having that debate about having to hire six voice actors if we go back to origins beginnings in DA3.)  Well, we know he voiced humans in DA:O.  I think we can all agree that if Fenris had had a high-pitched elfy-type voice (whatever that is xD) then he wouldn't have been nearly as sexy.

FYI: ANYONE PLAYING ON THE XBOX I updated my link in my sig on how to change companion armor.  It's easier now. Also how to switch out companion faces (e.g. make Anders look like Cullen) and weapon appearances.  You can even give Fenris daggers or a mage staff! (hehehehehehe)

Modifié par motomotogirl, 18 juin 2012 - 02:47 .


#51408
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

SilverIceQueen wrote...

I love Gideon Emery! Oh do I melt for that voice!


He seems like a really nice guy... which is more than I can say for one particular DA2 VO lol.


omg WHO?????????

I also love Giddy's voice.  I was just thinking how he could easily voice a human or a dwarf.  (People are always having that debate about having to hire six voice actors if we go back to origins beginnings in DA3.)  Well, we know he voiced humans in DA:O.  I think we can all agree that if Fenris had had a high-pitched elfy-type voice (whatever that is xD) then he wouldn't have been nearly as sexy.

FYI: ANYONE PLAYING ON THE XBOX I updated my link in my sig on how to change companion armor.  It's easier now. Also how to switch out companion faces (e.g. make Anders look like Cullen) and weapon appearances.  You can even give Fenris daggers or a mage staff! (hehehehehehe)


Anders VA was rude to me over Twitter LOL! ****ing ****, I bet he would have been nicer if my twitter picture was a set of ****** or something. :lol:

#51409
MissRedZelda

MissRedZelda
  • Members
  • 475 messages
Adam Howden was rude to you? I've heard that he's really nice to his fans.

#51410
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

MissRedZelda wrote...

Adam Howden was rude to you? I've heard that he's really nice to his fans.


I guess he didn't realise I was a fan (I was using my websites twitter because I don't have a personal one), still it's put me right off tweeting him again, don't think I'd want to meet him in real life after that.

#51411
dracuella

dracuella
  • Members
  • 213 messages

LolaLei wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...
Adam Howden was rude to you? I've heard that he's really nice to his fans.


I guess he didn't realise I was a fan (I was using my websites twitter because I don't have a personal one), still it's put me right off tweeting him again, don't think I'd want to meet him in real life after that.

So.. you should only be nice to fans? What an appalling sentiment. Really, he sould let some of Justice rub off on him a little and leave Vengeance out of the discussion >:-/

On a lighter note, semi-naked Fenris with his giant sword :wub:
- by darthmael


Posted Image 

Modifié par dracuella, 18 juin 2012 - 07:45 .


#51412
Dwarva

Dwarva
  • Members
  • 718 messages

LolaLei wrote...

I guess he didn't realise I was a fan (I was using my websites twitter because I don't have a personal one), still it's put me right off tweeting him again, don't think I'd want to meet him in real life after that.


Yeah I've heard he's a pretty nice guy too. What did he say?

#51413
MissRedZelda

MissRedZelda
  • Members
  • 475 messages
She must have caught him at a bad time. Can't imagine he would be rude, cos everyone who's met him has said he's a nice guy.

#51414
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

MissRedZelda wrote...

She must have caught him at a bad time. Can't imagine he would be rude, cos everyone who's met him has said he's a nice guy.


Maybe it's because my twitter picture isn't a set as female or a set of ****** LOL.

Modifié par LolaLei, 18 juin 2012 - 12:35 .


#51415
MissRedZelda

MissRedZelda
  • Members
  • 475 messages
I . . . don't follow, sorry :-(

#51416
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

MissRedZelda wrote...

I . . . don't follow, sorry :-(


Well my twitter picture is the websites symbol rather than a picture of a human. Anyway It doesn't matter, I was just disappointed that someone I admired was a bit douche to me for no reason lol.

#51417
CuriousArtemis

CuriousArtemis
  • Members
  • 19 656 messages
I know how you feel =\\ I said something about a favorite author of mine on Twitter and she took it the absolutely wrong way and was apparently greatly offended. I was shocked and tried to make amends (I admire and love this author's work greatly) but she never really responded again after that. It broke my heart!

#51418
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

motomotogirl wrote...

I know how you feel = I said something about a favorite author of mine on Twitter and she took it the absolutely wrong way and was apparently greatly offended. I was shocked and tried to make amends (I admire and love this author's work greatly) but she never really responded again after that. It broke my heart!


Aw that sucks :-(

Sadly it's put me right off Anders now, which is stupid because he only voices the character. Think I'll attempt to woo Fenris again from now on!

#51419
berelinde

berelinde
  • Members
  • 8 282 messages
That's actually a really good reason not to follow actors (or writers) too closely. Their real-life personas may be disappointing.

#51420
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

berelinde wrote...

That's actually a really good reason not to follow actors (or writers) too closely. Their real-life personas may be disappointing.


Agreed, serves me right for monitoring him for DA3 hints LOL!

#51421
MissRedZelda

MissRedZelda
  • Members
  • 475 messages
That's a shame, LolaLei :-( I've spoken to him on Twitter (I don't have a proper profile pic either) and he responded to me in a really nice manner. So I can't really tell you why he was so sharp with you. Sorry :-(

#51422
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

MissRedZelda wrote...

That's a shame, LolaLei :-( I've spoken to him on Twitter (I don't have a proper profile pic either) and he responded to me in a really nice manner. So I can't really tell you why he was so sharp with you. Sorry :-(


Maybe he thought I was a non-fan guy, the website twitter page does look like its run by a bloke. Bah, **** him I prefer Gideon Emery anyway!

#51423
MissRedZelda

MissRedZelda
  • Members
  • 475 messages
(Shrugs) I'm pretty sure he's a nice bloke in real life regardless. He and Gideon are actually close friends. When he and him are together, Adam's the chatty talkative one and Gideon's the nice-yet-straight-talking one. They really have good friendly chemistry ;-)

Not that I know this because I'm a perpetual Gideon Emery youtuber and have been a fangirl of his since my FFXII days . . .

#51424
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

MissRedZelda wrote...

(Shrugs) I'm pretty sure he's a nice bloke in real life regardless. He and Gideon are actually close friends. When he and him are together, Adam's the chatty talkative one and Gideon's the nice-yet-straight-talking one. They really have good friendly chemistry ;-)

Not that I know this because I'm a perpetual Gideon Emery youtuber and have been a fangirl of his since my FFXII days . . .


Hm, let's hope it was just a one off then... Not that I plan to attempt to talk to him again or anything lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 19 juin 2012 - 02:34 .


#51425
MissRedZelda

MissRedZelda
  • Members
  • 475 messages
Honestly, I hope so too.