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Seems we now know why Fenris enjoys following our Hawke around ;-)
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Posté 20 juin 2012 - 10:43
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Here's another!
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Seems we now know why Fenris enjoys following our Hawke around ;-)
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Seems we now know why Fenris enjoys following our Hawke around ;-)
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 12:32
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MissRedZelda wrote...
Here's another!
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Seems we now know why Fenris enjoys following our Hawke around ;-)
Oh my god I was looking for that one!
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 08:57
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Yessss exactly. Huge toe-cringer moment! His facial expression and look of horror and disbelief even made me throw a few lines of fan fic together where you get the internal monologue of Fenris just after this scene (after my first playthrough). Short story shorter, Fenris ponders what in Thedas happened, questions if he likes the personality of our Hawke, decides he doesn't need to get involved with 'that sort of person' and leaves quietly in the nightNilfalasiel wrote...
Hear hear. Seriously, to me, his response to the "waste of a perfectly handsome elf" flirt sounds like a nervous "who-the-hell-is-this-psycho" laugh.
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 10:43
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So I don't know where else to put this (because if I write it in the Asunder thread I'll get flamed 
and thought you guys might have advice). No spoilers though, so don't worry. I've started reading Asunder, am about a quarter way through and so far it's fairly....meh? It's good and interesting but I'm not massively compelled to finish it. The writing itself is very good (obviously as it's DG) but I'm just hoping it picks up because all it's really done so far is made me hate the Templars more than I already did. 
I'm also not sure about how some of the people sound - is Rhys meant to sound English? Is Adrian meant to be Orlesian? I wasn't sure if the White Tower was purely for Orlesian mages or if they'd also be taken there from Fereldan etc.
and thought you guys might have advice). No spoilers though, so don't worry. I've started reading Asunder, am about a quarter way through and so far it's fairly....meh? It's good and interesting but I'm not massively compelled to finish it. The writing itself is very good (obviously as it's DG) but I'm just hoping it picks up because all it's really done so far is made me hate the Templars more than I already did. I'm also not sure about how some of the people sound - is Rhys meant to sound English? Is Adrian meant to be Orlesian? I wasn't sure if the White Tower was purely for Orlesian mages or if they'd also be taken there from Fereldan etc.
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 12:06
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It stays pretty "meh," IMO. I read it, but I never really felt any connection to any of the characters - not even Rhys, if you believe it. No spoilers, but there is a really good reason that Rhys sounds Ferelden. Adrian may well be Orlesian. It isn't unusual for Circles to move mages from one tower to another. Given that Rhys is a spirit medium, his talents are very rare, so I could see them moving him to a tower in a different part of Thedas, but there was a more compelling reason the get him out of Kinloch Hold. They separate families.
But yeah, if you can finish Asunder and still admire templars as an organization, your empathy valve needs a tune-up. When I finished, I went to youtube and watched the Last Straw, cheering Anders on. Recommendation: After you finish Asunder, watch Dawn of the Seeker. You won't feel any better about the leadership of the templars, but it will make you feel better about the chantry as a whole.
But yeah, if you can finish Asunder and still admire templars as an organization, your empathy valve needs a tune-up. When I finished, I went to youtube and watched the Last Straw, cheering Anders on. Recommendation: After you finish Asunder, watch Dawn of the Seeker. You won't feel any better about the leadership of the templars, but it will make you feel better about the chantry as a whole.
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 01:56
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Oh really? Excellent - thanks berelinde. I've actually got a copy of Dawn of the Seeker sitting waiting. I'll watch it after the book. I think I know what you meant about Rhys sounding Fereldan but am only about a quarter way through. Normally you take the cue on where the characters are from their name but Adrian is pretty ambiguous. And she's meant to have curly red hair and freckles which doesn't really scream French looking to me...
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 10:58
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4 days without Internet and phone gives a person a chance to think. No Fenris picture porn also makes a person miss the Internet and computer very much.
Question and theory:
I was pondering Fenris's initial meeting with Hawke in the alienage. If Hawke is hesitant to help him fight Danarius he implores Hawke to help. It is somewhat on the verge of begging. Well... let's call it urgency because I do not like to consider Fenris begging for anything. Fenris basically admits that he needs Hawke to help in order to be successful against Danarius.
After you help, Fenris can become negative depending on the company you keep or if you are a mage. At that point, I wondered why he would risk angering the only competent help he had ever been offered. Was it a self destructive behavior or a test to see if Hawke was really willing to help him? I suppose a test of trust and truth?
Later on, if Hawke and Fenris become intimate, we are presented with the 'Fenris leaving Hawke' scenario. Originally, I was angry when Fenris left Hawke that night. Most fanfiction I have read agrees with that initial reaction. But! Lately, I have considered that maybe it was actually a sign of trust on Fenris's part. He admitted the truth to Hawke knowing full well, Hawke may no longer offer help.
Consider also that Hawke can give Fenris to Danarius later on, perhaps out of spite or for profit. Fenris, being the intelligent person that he is must have considered betrayal, or at least, potential capture.
So, my opinion has changed. I think Fenris risked it all when he told Hawke about his memories. Not only did he open up to Hawke but he also risked losing the only support he had against Danarius. I have decided that what at first seems to be a completely selfish act was actually a selfless act born out of love and respect. I would be interested in hearing opinions.
Question and theory:
I was pondering Fenris's initial meeting with Hawke in the alienage. If Hawke is hesitant to help him fight Danarius he implores Hawke to help. It is somewhat on the verge of begging. Well... let's call it urgency because I do not like to consider Fenris begging for anything. Fenris basically admits that he needs Hawke to help in order to be successful against Danarius.
After you help, Fenris can become negative depending on the company you keep or if you are a mage. At that point, I wondered why he would risk angering the only competent help he had ever been offered. Was it a self destructive behavior or a test to see if Hawke was really willing to help him? I suppose a test of trust and truth?
Later on, if Hawke and Fenris become intimate, we are presented with the 'Fenris leaving Hawke' scenario. Originally, I was angry when Fenris left Hawke that night. Most fanfiction I have read agrees with that initial reaction. But! Lately, I have considered that maybe it was actually a sign of trust on Fenris's part. He admitted the truth to Hawke knowing full well, Hawke may no longer offer help.
Consider also that Hawke can give Fenris to Danarius later on, perhaps out of spite or for profit. Fenris, being the intelligent person that he is must have considered betrayal, or at least, potential capture.
So, my opinion has changed. I think Fenris risked it all when he told Hawke about his memories. Not only did he open up to Hawke but he also risked losing the only support he had against Danarius. I have decided that what at first seems to be a completely selfish act was actually a selfless act born out of love and respect. I would be interested in hearing opinions.
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 11:22
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Yeah, I would say that Fenris was probably doing the whole test of trust thing, when we first meet him. I'm still unsure on his leaving Hawke, though. Considering it was him whole initiated the whole night together thing.
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Posté 21 juin 2012 - 11:38
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Hmm I think Fenris needed Hawke and Friends to help him beat who he thought would be Danarius. Afterward, once the danger was over, and Fenris realized Hawke or one of Hawke's buddies was a mage, his prejudice comes through, and he expresses his distrust. The differing amount of rivalry points you can get here shows that you are dealing with someone who is not unreasonable but definitely has some issues.
When Fenris first left Hawke I can't say I was mad; I thought the storyline was pretty amazing and that his character was even more squishable than I imagined. Nothing the characters do makes me mad. It's more like an interactive novel for me than anything.
When Fenris told Hawke about his memories, I think he was just confiding in someone he loved. And trying to explain why he feels uncomfortable and doesn't think he can be in a romantic relationship. But, he's an awkward wittle bunny, so he pretty much failed at that bit xD
When Fenris first left Hawke I can't say I was mad; I thought the storyline was pretty amazing and that his character was even more squishable than I imagined. Nothing the characters do makes me mad. It's more like an interactive novel for me than anything.
When Fenris told Hawke about his memories, I think he was just confiding in someone he loved. And trying to explain why he feels uncomfortable and doesn't think he can be in a romantic relationship. But, he's an awkward wittle bunny, so he pretty much failed at that bit xD
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 05:19
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aldien wrote...
After you help, Fenris can become negative depending on the company you keep or if you are a mage. At that point, I wondered why he would risk angering the only competent help he had ever been offered. Was it a self destructive behavior or a test to see if Hawke was really willing to help him? I suppose a test of trust and truth?
This is a very interesting observation. I never thought of it this way.
Yes, I think so, though I would personally almost call it testing the waters more than test of trust. He sees mages as dangerous, unpredictable things that can turn on you at any time. (Plus, I think most mages he encounters are proud megalomaniacs.) He probably hurls those insults to see how they would react. Are they humble and in control of themselves enough to take the barbs, or do they attack when prodded? Or maybe he sees them as untrustworthy and it's his way of saying "Be wary mages, I'm onto you." xD
aldien wrote...
Later on, if Hawke and Fenris become intimate, we are presented with the 'Fenris leaving Hawke' scenario. Originally, I was angry when Fenris left Hawke that night. Most fanfiction I have read agrees with that initial reaction. But! Lately, I have considered that maybe it was actually a sign of trust on Fenris's part. He admitted the truth to Hawke knowing full well, Hawke may no longer offer help.
One of the reasons I love Fenris is because I understand how he feels. True, I've never had lyrium branded into my flesh, I don't suffer from severe amnesia and I wasn't enslaved by a sadistic mage, but I know what it's like to be a dense, introverted, socially awkward, social phobic, emotionally reserved person that dislikes opening up to others, both physically and emotionally, to the point of disliking being touched.
When Fenris leaves Hawke after their night together, I can't bring myself to be mad at him because I understand comoletely how he feels. (Truth be told, I've basically said the same thing to potential lovers of mine in the past.) Fenris is used to being alone--it's his comfort zone. Opening up physically and emotionally to the person he loves enough to do the nasty, despite his unpleasant history with the act and his usual aversion to being touched, takes him so far out of his comfort zone that he can barely see the horizon line. And once he realizes how far he's strayed, the sense of unfamiliarity, uncertainty, and uneasiness kicks in.
Another thing to consider is that Fenris has little stability in his life--who he was, what he's doing, where he's going, it's all up in the air. He has no idea what tomorrow, next week, or even next year will bring. At any time, Danarius can come for him. At any time, someone can turn him in. At any time, his life can change drastically. He's a leaf without a tree. A person whose life is full of instabilities will cling to the only bit of comfort, control and familiarity they have--in his case, being alone, being apart, being hidden. He may love Hawke, he may trust Hawke, but love and trust are emotions he's not familiar with--they are the unfamiliar, the outside, the unknown, the dangerous.
Add this to the fact that he was under a lot of emotional turmoil around the time he slept with Hawke: the renewed hatred from seeing Hadriana, the passion of being with Hawke for the first time, the distress of having his memories return and disappear in a flash (all of which are highly significant by themselves, let alone with each other) is a lot to take in. Frankly, it would be overwhelming. Someone who's used to running and hiding would panic and would retreat back into the familiar--anything to make things feel viscerally "right" again. It's not really right, but it's calming.
... Wait, you mentioned something about trust, right? *reads again* Derp! Yes, it would have been very difficult for Fenris to open up and admit his fears and anxieties to Hawke. Again, he's used to being alone and keeping to himself. Admitting fear, distress and insecurity opens one up to being vulnerable (that's the word I was looking for!) and Fenris does not like to make himself vulnerable. That he does so for Hawke is a huge step for him, and shows how greatly he values Hawke as a friend and lover.
(Why is it that every response I give is like an essay long?! I never mean for it to happen, I just have a lot to say!)
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 07:14
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Hmm, I never thought of it that way. I like it, though, that aspect of Fenris, considerate and selfless. Not that I previousy thought he wasn't, mind, it's just that most of what we see of him is very defensive and, when it comes to mages, downright aggressive for a large part.aldien wrote...
Later on, if Hawke and Fenris become intimate, we are presented with the 'Fenris leaving Hawke' scenario. Originally, I was angry when Fenris left Hawke that night. Most fanfiction I have read agrees with that initial reaction. But! Lately, I have considered that maybe it was actually a sign of trust on Fenris's part. He admitted the truth to Hawke knowing full well, Hawke may no longer offer help.
Consider also that Hawke can give Fenris to Danarius later on, perhaps out of spite or for profit. Fenris, being the intelligent person that he is must have considered betrayal, or at least, potential capture.
So, my opinion has changed. I think Fenris risked it all when he told Hawke about his memories. Not only did he open up to Hawke but he also risked losing the only support he had against Danarius. I have decided that what at first seems to be a completely selfish act was actually a selfless act born out of love and respect. I would be interested in hearing opinions.
motomotogirl wrote...
When Fenris first left Hawke I can't say I was mad; I thought the storyline was pretty amazing and that his character was even more squishable than I imagined. Nothing the characters do makes me mad. It's more like an interactive novel for me than anything.
When Fenris told Hawke about his memories, I think he was just confiding in someone he loved. And trying to explain why he feels uncomfortable and doesn't think he can be in a romantic relationship. But, he's an awkward wittle bunny, so he pretty much failed at that bit xD
This was also my first impression. Fenris has come to care greatly for Hawke and with time comes his trust. He's never had a confidant, a best friend and as their talks grow progressively more intimate, he feels safe enough in Hawke's company to talk about his secrets.
But as to him running off, I always saw that as the ultimate - albeit unconscious - expression of how he felt for Hawke. In my mind he has fallen so deeply for him/her that he is being overwhelmedby it. The impact this has on him scare him as he realises he is once again being bound to someone, only this time not by force but by his own feelings. Also loving can mean loosing and after having lost almost everything, could Fenris bear to loose Hawke? No, better to break it off before he gets too attached; before he comes to care for him/her so much that leaving is impossible.
Aaaand there you have it, my headcanon
EDIT: wow this reply was an hour in the making (working as I wrote) and I was totally ninja'd by Faerunners reply (which I really like, it makes a lot of sense)
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 09:47
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I think the conversation immediately after the action in Danarius' mansion is not yet a test of trust. It's simply too early for that. At that time, Hawke is just the person Fenris hired to help him. There is no way that Fenris expects he will grow attached to that person, trust that person, whether it is as a friend or as a lover. I doubt Fenris is expecting to spend the next seven years in Hawke's company. He probably doesn't think that far ahead anyway. I agree with Faerunner that it's more testing the waters, seeing what kind of person he is dealing with, since he is very, very distrustful of mages and magic. After all, he is going to offer his assistence to Hawke (with in the back of his mind that Hawke may help him in the future).
I also don't agree that Fenris leaving after sexy times is completely selfless. Far from that, in fact. There is the part that he feels unworthy of Hawke, yes. But I think the main part is still Fenris being overwhelmed by everything that has happened in a short time and simply freaking out because of it. He is scared (he says it himself, in act 3: "I was a coward"). Suddenly, Hawke has come so very close. It's terrifying. The person that his freedom seems to depend on, has become more than just a convenient ally. That is risky indeed, and I don't doubt he realizes that he jeopardizes that part of the relationship as well when he leaves. Still, his panic is stronger at that time.
I don't think Fenris really sees Hawke betrayal coming if Hawke decides to turn him over to Danarius. He appears genuinely shocked when that happens. Perhaps a voice whispered about the possibility in the back of his mind, but I believe that by then, Fenris has placed at least as much trust in Hawke to not believe he would be left on his own against his master. Hawke has helped him against Hadriana as well after all.
Phew, it has been a while since I've written such a long post. Thanks, aldien.
I also don't agree that Fenris leaving after sexy times is completely selfless. Far from that, in fact. There is the part that he feels unworthy of Hawke, yes. But I think the main part is still Fenris being overwhelmed by everything that has happened in a short time and simply freaking out because of it. He is scared (he says it himself, in act 3: "I was a coward"). Suddenly, Hawke has come so very close. It's terrifying. The person that his freedom seems to depend on, has become more than just a convenient ally. That is risky indeed, and I don't doubt he realizes that he jeopardizes that part of the relationship as well when he leaves. Still, his panic is stronger at that time.
I don't think Fenris really sees Hawke betrayal coming if Hawke decides to turn him over to Danarius. He appears genuinely shocked when that happens. Perhaps a voice whispered about the possibility in the back of his mind, but I believe that by then, Fenris has placed at least as much trust in Hawke to not believe he would be left on his own against his master. Hawke has helped him against Hadriana as well after all.
Phew, it has been a while since I've written such a long post. Thanks, aldien.
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 09:50
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Truth be told, I myself can never really bring myself to be totally angry with Fenris. Perhaps a little, giving that it was him who propositioned by Hawke, but taking his oast into consideration, it is easy to see why he would feel uncomfortable being in a stable relationship. As Faerunner said, he's never had stability in his life. So all these news emotions and feelings he's gained since falling in love with Hawke has him totally confused and scared.
At least, that's the abridged version of my views on the whole thing.
Honestly, though, his "break up" wasn't nearly as heartbreaking as Alistair's in DA:O. I literally felt like I had been stabbed in the heart when he broke up with my Mage. I'm never making him King again.
At least, that's the abridged version of my views on the whole thing.
Honestly, though, his "break up" wasn't nearly as heartbreaking as Alistair's in DA:O. I literally felt like I had been stabbed in the heart when he broke up with my Mage. I'm never making him King again.
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 10:08
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I completely agree on Alistair, I was shattered when he did that. It was so unexpected, no previous signs, nothing. You had no way of knowing and I think that's why it hits you so hard.MissRedZelda wrote...
At least, that's the abridged version of my views on the whole thing.
Honestly, though, his "break up" wasn't nearly as heartbreaking as Alistair's in DA:O. I literally felt like I had been stabbed in the heart when he broke up with my Mage. I'm never making him King again.
Plus with Fenris you sense the lingering possibility that he could, eventually, possibly, come back to you. It hurt like bloody hell, I won't deny that, and I couldn't bring myself to recruit him for the longest time after but I could still cling to that flicker of hope that it wasn't all over. With Alistair it's pretty much set in stone with the king business and all you can do is ache and feel miserable.
Oh and no, I never did make him king again after that either
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 11:27
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MissRedZelda wrote...
Honestly, though, his "break up" wasn't nearly as heartbreaking as Alistair's in DA:O. I literally felt like I had been stabbed in the heart when he broke up with my Mage. I'm never making him King again.
Completely agree - I physically felt sick when he broke up with my mage. It was horrible.
Its a testiment to the writers though that they can create a character and a relationship that spurs those feelings. I've actually just started a male mage character in DAO and wandered over to FF.net to find some fanfiction based on that origin but can't seem to find the correct character filter? There's nothing for Daylon (the default name) and the entry for Amell is....weird. Quite a few people seem to be referring to their characters first names as Amell. Am I missing something? There seems to be a seperate entry for m/f for most other origins but not the mage. I think I'm being daft...
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 11:58
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Haha, I see there is a whole club of broken-hearted Alistair romancers. Count me in! My elven mage was so hurt and angry. It's pretty nasty though, because the game really pushes you to choose Alistair as king, with Arl Eamon and Anora possibly betraying you when you have to rescue her.
I wasn't really mad at Fenris when he left. Well, I was bummed, but mostly because they were finally kissing, and before I knew it, it was over. xD I think it's okay to be at least a bit annoyed with Fenris, because you're Hawke, and you're being left right after you slept with him. That's not nice.
I wasn't really mad at Fenris when he left. Well, I was bummed, but mostly because they were finally kissing, and before I knew it, it was over. xD I think it's okay to be at least a bit annoyed with Fenris, because you're Hawke, and you're being left right after you slept with him. That's not nice.
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 05:11
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I agree with Ren's post 100%; said everything I wanted to say xD
I believe ladies you can harden Alistair and then he won't break up with you. You have to be mean to him after his sister's house. I stopped my dwarf playthrough by the way because I was so repulsed by her GINOOORMOUS monkey arms, but hopefully I will get back into it. I'd like to try the Alistair romance.
Again, have to admit I don't think of myself as Hawke; it's more like I'm the writer and I'm creating this story and Hawke is just a character. So I'm never mad at anything they do. Now I might be upset/heart-broken etc. over something that occurs in the story (such as the ME3 ending... *tiny letters* that I actually liked...) and I'm sure that could include romance, but it hasn't yet, since all the romances I've played have ended nicely.
I wish you could romance Sebastian without having to kill Anders. Maybe if I give Anders a really fugly face I'll be able to let Hawke kill him xD
I believe ladies you can harden Alistair and then he won't break up with you. You have to be mean to him after his sister's house. I stopped my dwarf playthrough by the way because I was so repulsed by her GINOOORMOUS monkey arms, but hopefully I will get back into it. I'd like to try the Alistair romance.
Again, have to admit I don't think of myself as Hawke; it's more like I'm the writer and I'm creating this story and Hawke is just a character. So I'm never mad at anything they do. Now I might be upset/heart-broken etc. over something that occurs in the story (such as the ME3 ending... *tiny letters* that I actually liked...) and I'm sure that could include romance, but it hasn't yet, since all the romances I've played have ended nicely.
I wish you could romance Sebastian without having to kill Anders. Maybe if I give Anders a really fugly face I'll be able to let Hawke kill him xD
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Posté 22 juin 2012 - 10:56
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motomotogirl wrote...
I agree with Ren's post 100%; said everything I wanted to say xD
I believe ladies you can harden Alistair and then he won't break up with you. You have to be mean to him after his sister's house. I stopped my dwarf playthrough by the way because I was so repulsed by her GINOOORMOUS monkey arms, but hopefully I will get back into it. I'd like to try the Alistair romance.
Again, have to admit I don't think of myself as Hawke; it's more like I'm the writer and I'm creating this story and Hawke is just a character. So I'm never mad at anything they do. Now I might be upset/heart-broken etc. over something that occurs in the story (such as the ME3 ending... *tiny letters* that I actually liked...) and I'm sure that could include romance, but it hasn't yet, since all the romances I've played have ended nicely.
I wish you could romance Sebastian without having to kill Anders. Maybe if I give Anders a really fugly face I'll be able to let Hawke kill him xD
Meh, I was never a fan of the Dwarven origins. For me, it's the Mage and Elven origins that do it for me. Possibly because I find that if you play as those, you get a real taste of just how much of a crapsack and unequal world Thedas is.
I really hated having to "harden" Alistair when I found out that that's the only way you can stay with him when he's King. I'm all for him growing as a character, but not at the detriment that it completely changes his personality. It's like losing the happy, carefree, fun-loving, childish man I had fell in love with.
I'm just so glad they did not inclide any of this with Fenris. He did all his growing and character development on his own.
Oh, and the absolute worst part of the Alistair break up for me? Part of the reason why I'm so hung up on his is because he acts almost EXACTLY like my boyfriend. Seriously, it's almost scary. The only diference is the accent (my bf's American, but he can put on a pretty good British accent). So, the break up was all the most heartbreaking for that reason - I actually cried afterward.
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Posté 23 juin 2012 - 03:10
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MissRedZelda wrote...
Oh, and the absolute worst part of the Alistair break up for me? Part of the reason why I'm so hung up on his is because he acts almost EXACTLY like my boyfriend. Seriously, it's almost scary. The only diference is the accent (my bf's American, but he can put on a pretty good British accent). So, the break up was all the most heartbreaking for that reason - I actually cried afterward.
*pat pat* It is truly an amazing thing when a game can affect us like that. The only thing that's gotten me teared up in DA has been the werewolves turning back into humans. I think it's the combination of the music and the situation *sniffle* And this time I was playing a Dalish who really doesn't care about humans (he and Tamlin killed all the humans in the first scene). But I figured he reasoned it out for himself that if the curse isn't cured then the werewolves will continue to attack the Dalish, so it's best that they're cured. But yeah.
I think if Zevran or Fenris shocked me by rejecting my character at the last minute I'd probably be pretty upset, too.
Only game that made me cry buckets was ME3 and seriously I think 80% of that is the amazing soundtrack.
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Posté 23 juin 2012 - 04:56
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Damn you, Bioware! Why do you seem to make such great and realistic characters that actually feel like people we know?! My poor fangirl heart can only take so much heartache! (DA:O Alistair and the ME3 ending)
Moto, I'm pretty sure ME3 will be responsible for 90% of the therapy bills around the world for the next year or so. XD
Moto, I'm pretty sure ME3 will be responsible for 90% of the therapy bills around the world for the next year or so. XD
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It's always the blond-ish humans that break your heart, isn't it? (Alistair and Anders.)
One thing I've learned from Bioware is to go for the sexy elven former slaves. (Zevran and Fenris.)
The blond-ish humans may start out open and passionate about how much they love love love you, but when push comes to shove? They choose what they consider their "duty" over you. (Alistair being king, Anders freeing mages, Cullen serving the Maker...) The elven former slaves may start out on the fence and take a little extra buttering up, but once you've pushed past their defense mechanisms and earned their loyalty? They're yours for life.
EDIT: I've never played Mass Effect so I can't comment on that, sorry...
One thing I've learned from Bioware is to go for the sexy elven former slaves. (Zevran and Fenris.)
The blond-ish humans may start out open and passionate about how much they love love love you, but when push comes to shove? They choose what they consider their "duty" over you. (Alistair being king, Anders freeing mages, Cullen serving the Maker...) The elven former slaves may start out on the fence and take a little extra buttering up, but once you've pushed past their defense mechanisms and earned their loyalty? They're yours for life.
EDIT: I've never played Mass Effect so I can't comment on that, sorry...
Modifié par Faerunner, 23 juin 2012 - 05:39 .
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Posté 23 juin 2012 - 05:39
MissRedZelda
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Thankfully though, you can not make Alistair King, and then ride off into the sunset with him as Grey Warden's. You sadly can't do that with Anders, sadly (in that, you can't stop him from blowing up the Chantry.
EDIT: And, when I really think about it, he didn't want to be King in the first place. But, I pushed him into it, when I knew me being a Mage and being with huim would be a problem. In a way, I kinda caused my own heartbreak. Still hurt like hell, though :-(
Zevran? Hmmm... meh, he didn't really do anything for me.
EDIT: And, when I really think about it, he didn't want to be King in the first place. But, I pushed him into it, when I knew me being a Mage and being with huim would be a problem. In a way, I kinda caused my own heartbreak. Still hurt like hell, though :-(
Zevran? Hmmm... meh, he didn't really do anything for me.
Modifié par MissRedZelda, 23 juin 2012 - 05:41 .
