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Faerunner wrote...

(Heh! You mentioning Gamlen's snide remark reminds me of the really funny aimo comic that ren posted several days ago. The one where Gamlen makes the snide remark, Hawke says words to the effect of "You have no idea!" and goes into very explicit, graphic, cencored detail about how aggressive Fenris was in bed and embarrassed the hell out of all listeners involved. xD)


Aimo's Hawke is so derpy >.< :lol: Well at least her guy Hawke; does she do FemHawke?  I thought she did, but I can't remember if her personality is as goofball as her guy Hawke's.

Well for me I just bought the extended pack or whatever ... I bought the Origins game and it came with Awakening, etc. I didn't play Witch Hunt for a long time because Morrigan did not interest me as a character, but out of boredom, I did finally play it.  Maybe I didn't read the description or something.  But why create a DLC that's only applicable to some players? It's like they're saying, "We are giving you these options, but FYI, this is the CORRECT option, and you will be REWARDED for that option in the form of a DLC."  Ugh!  

Morrigan, Morrigan, Morrigan.  I am just sick of her.  Note that I don't dislike her character.  I think she's great.  Only one of my Wardens liked her, but that doesn't mean anything, really.  Still a decent character (although the way the writers set up the dialogue with her, like giving the Warden the option to call her a frigid beotch and s on, was quite irritating and frankly misogynistic).  But it's like half this forum go ape-sh!t over her (read: get their rocks off over her) and they're so loud about it that they drown out the rest of us ... to point where I believe the writers said they would put her in the next game just b/c she's so popular.

Well, I hope they screw her up as much as they screwed up my dear Zevran <_< Take that, fanboys!

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Aimo's Hawke is so derpy >.< :lol: Well at least her guy Hawke; does she do FemHawke?  I thought she did, but I can't remember if her personality is as goofball as her guy Hawke's.


lol I don't really know, honestly. I don't keep up with her DA2 comics because I'm pretty miffed with DA2 as a whole.
(Darn you Fenris and false hope for race options in DA3, why do you keep me around these forums?) Posted Image

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Well for me I just bought the extended pack or whatever ... I bought the Origins game and it came with Awakening, etc. I didn't play Witch Hunt for a long time because Morrigan did not interest me as a character, but out of boredom, I did finally play it.  Maybe I didn't read the description or something.  But why create a DLC that's only applicable to some players? It's like they're saying, "We are giving you these options, but FYI, this is the CORRECT option, and you will be REWARDED for that option in the form of a DLC."  Ugh!

  

Oh, you bought the Ultimate Edition? I guess it makes sense. I've been playing DA:O for about a year, and I think the UE just came out very recently, so I'm used to thinking of DLC in terms of stuff where you have to read the description and download online. I think the very reason I signed up on the BSN was to get some DLC (I wanted Return to Ostagar and Witch Hunt at the time) and I couldn't do it without an account.

Don't worry too much about it. I downloaded Return to Ostagar thinking it had good story content when it was really just extra darkspawn battles, some armour I didn't want and a chest of mage stuff I couldn't access since I already used the Prisoner's Key at Ostagar. I turned better in future playthroughs, but boy was that a letdown and a waste of money, as far as I'm concerned.

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Well, I hope they screw her up as much as they screwed up my dear Zevran <_< Take that, fanboys!


Lol I love Morrigan too, but even I don't talk about it that much. I would hate to see her ruined, but honestly? At the rate Bioware's going, I wouldn't be at all surprised. It seems like everything most fans love about DA:O keep being systematically destroyed by DA2, so what's one more character?

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Faerunner wrote...

(Granted, like you said, the game seems to drop some hints, but Alistair is a pretty bad communicator, so...)


I wouldn't say that he's a bad communicator so much as heedless. Alistair is a very immature person in many ways, and up until the Landsmeet, I think he truly believes, or wants to believe at least, that there's no way in hell that he'll be made king.

Except that, considering his situation, no matter how much he doesn't want to, he should understand that it's at least a possibility. And warn a non-human noble Warden about it. But he doesn't because "if I ignore it, maybe it'll go away". I can really picture him sticking his fingers in his ears and going "lalalala, I'm not listening! lalalala"

Yeah, I'm not exactly Alistair's biggest fan. Sure, he's fun and all, but he's too much of a man-child for my tastes.

Honestly? This is why I don't take people seriously when they tell me I should play a human noble because "they're more at home in the plot" or "the game is more inclined toward them." So? Like you said, the game is more inclined toward male characters too, but it doesn't mean I want to play a dude.


Of the five origins I've tried so far (still missing City Elf), Human Noble is my least favourite one. I saved it for an Alistair romance, just to try out the "fairytale ending" that people kept talking about. And it just left me underwhelmed on all fronts. Maybe because the Human Noble never quite loses their privileged status, compared to everybody else (even the Dwarf Noble becomes a nobody). Maybe because playing a human in a fantasy RPG feels pointless to me. Maybe because an F!Cousland only has one set of non-horrendous eyebrows, and even then, they look over-tweezed. Either way, my verdict was "blah".


On Witch Hunt, I think it's kind of interesting if you play with Morrigan as a beloved friend, especially if you add the emotional paradox of having her carry your love interest's child. It's not quite the standard, stereotypical "heterosexual hero dude sleeps with dark femme fatale that runs away with his kid and he tracks her down to find his son." There's a lack of meaningful platonic relationships between women in most media, so I like how Dragon Age gives you the option of breaking the mold, even if the writers themselves don't seem to want to pay too much attention to it. =/

True that. Even if you're romancing Zev or Leliana and made Alistair sleep with Morrigan, she still essentially saves your life. And there's at least some curiosity involved in seeking her out, if not concern: she did say she's never show up again, yet here she is, and you know she's got a god-baby tucked away in a corner somewhere. You gotta at least wonder if something's up. My Wardens wouldn't leave through the Eluvian with her, though (except the one who's romancing her).

I mean, since elves are slimmer and shorter--well, just slimmer (thanks to the new elf designs...) than humans, I think there's the perception that elven men are less manly than human men. Fenris, while thin and wiry, has a LOT of anger and aggression to go around. The game just focuses on mages and slavery as his berserk buttons, but do you think he ever feels tweaked by humans or dwarves implying that he's less of a man thanks to his heritage?


Actually, I'm pretty sure Fenris is just exceptionally tall for an elf. Don't think any of the other elves are noticeably taller than F!Hawke. Or maybe I just didn't notice. Also, Merrill definitely fits the bill of being both slimmer and shorter than a human.

Still, yeah, I'm pretty sure there would be barbs directed at Fenris for being an elf, especially an elf in a relationship with a human. And I'm positive that he would have a few choice qunari/Tevinter epithets to mutter under his breath about the issue.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 25 juin 2012 - 09:15 .


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 Hey, thread activity!:lol: I'm still here. You were just talking while I was asleep. Let's see what did I miss. A lot of talk about Alistair it seems, haha. 

And Fenris' masculinity. Heh, who would dare to question that? Well, there is Gamlen, obviously. And when romanced with a male Hawke, Varric asks enris if Hawke sweeped him off his feet, which suggests a more feminine role. Other than that, it doesn't seem to happen, at least not in the game. I guess there is an overall prejudice that elves are weaker (and inferior to) humans, but when Fenris does his "magical fisting thing" no human dares to question his power:P.
I think it really irritates Fenris when he is considered weak, yes. But I didn't get the impression he gets mistaken for a woman, or a feminine person, except for Gamlen then, but Gamlen is an idiot. Gamlen also makes the remark about who being the girl when you romance Fenris with female Hawke. Which is... odd, and just wrong.:mellow: But aimo's comic on that remark was priceless indeed. xD

Here's another one. Did I post it before?

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I do question the credibility of this. Who could possibly resist Fenris' puppy eyes?:innocent:

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I like Morrigan too. In fact, she and my human female Mage Warden struck up quite a strange but strong friendship. They became better friends than my Mage and Leliana. Strange, because I've head-cannoned my Mage to be the exact opposite of Morrigan; kind, helpful, and deeply compassionate. And due to being locked in a tower all her life, she's very naive, and makes the odd inappropriate comment that no normal person would usually say out loud.

Actually, how did the two of them become friends in the first place? Eh, mystery for another time.

EDIT: @rejility. Really? When Gamlen commnented on my relationship with Fenris, he said; "So, you're interested in Elves, I see."

Oh, and A LOT of Willpower, Ren :lol:

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renjility wrote...


I think it really irritates Fenris when he is considered weak, yes. But I didn't get the impression he gets mistaken for a woman, or a feminine person, except for Gamlen then, but Gamlen is an idiot. Gamlen also makes the remark about who being the girl when you romance Fenris with female Hawke. Which is... odd, and just wrong.:mellow: But aimo's comic on that remark was priceless indeed. xD



I think that's actually a bug? Because when my female Hawke asks Gamlen he makes a comment about me liking elves too. And Varric's comment about sweeping off their feet happens with every LI I think? Certainly does with Anders so not sure that's meant to indicate Hawke is the more masculine one in the relationship - he's just looking for a story I think. ^_^

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Staarbux wrote...

I think that's actually a bug? Because when my female Hawke asks Gamlen he makes a comment about me liking elves too. And Varric's comment about sweeping off their feet happens with every LI I think? Certainly does with Anders so not sure that's meant to indicate Hawke is the more masculine one in the relationship - he's just looking for a story I think. ^_^


No, the "sweeping off your feet" is for Fenris only. If Hawke is female, he asks if Fenris swept her off her feet. If Hawke is male, it's the other way round. Which would mean that Varric thinks M!Hawke is the more masculine of the two, I guess.

With Anders, Varric asks if he went down on one knee or if Hawke jumped him (regardless of gender, that one).

Also, lol @ aimo's comic. That's certainly an impressive display of willpower. And I'm totally not buying it either Posted Image

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If you romance Fenris as a female, Gamlen is supposed to say; "So, you're into elves, huh? It takes all kinds..."

The banter with Varric is supposed to go:

Varric: So...you and Hawke?
Fenris: What about us?
Varric: I Want to make sure I get all the details right when I tell this story. Did you sweep her off her feet or was it the other way around?
Fenris: I'm not telling you anything but this: There was no actual sweeping involved.
Varric: Every little bit helps, elf.

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Oops, my mistake then. Maybe Gamlen was confused, haha. Or it was just me.

That Varric's banter about sweeping changes with Hawke's gender I know. I find the one with male Hawke actually funnier, because he says something like: "I assume he did the sweeping. He is taller".

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Okay, can one of you lovely people tell me when I can trigger Gamlen to comment on Fenris and Hawke? I try talking to the 'grouser' in every Act (this is in addition to actual quest related dialogue...i.e. 'All That Remains' and 'Gamlen's Greatest Gift'), but I can never get those LI related banters. Is my Gamlens' broke??? :P

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renjility wrote...

Oops, my mistake then. Maybe Gamlen was confused, haha. Or it was just me.

That Varric's banter about sweeping changes with Hawke's gender I know. I find the one with male Hawke actually funnier, because he says something like: "I assume he did the sweeping. He is taller".


Yeah it's pretty much that. I lmao the first time I heard it.

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Faerunner wrote...

Here, here! Plus Alistair doesn't even want to be king, so you're freeing him from an unwanted burden! ^^

On the fanart: Ooh, those claws... @.@

Ahem, I mean, it's a beautiful picture. Hawke looks lovely, Fenris looks amazing, and those... *sigh* I'm going to let my inner fangirl out for just a minute, and ask if it's weird that I LOVE Fenris' claws? *.* (I just about die every time he touches Hawke's hair with them in the game.)


So I've just finished my DAO game. Did the dark ritual, killed archdemon myself, saved Alistair and got together with Leliana. Spoke to Alistair after the game and he was all friendly etc. but no mention of him at all in the place card section of the epilogue?? How do I know what happened to him? The wiki indicates he leaves the Grey Wardens and becomes a drunk but should I assume that's only if you let Loghain live?

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coldwetn0se wrote...

Okay, can one of you lovely people tell me when I can trigger Gamlen to comment on Fenris and Hawke? I try talking to the 'grouser' in every Act (this is in addition to actual quest related dialogue...i.e. 'All That Remains' and 'Gamlen's Greatest Gift'), but I can never get those LI related banters. Is my Gamlens' broke??? :P


I think he says it in act 3. Possibly only after you have made up with Fenris.

@ Staarbux: Alistair will only become a drunk if you let Loghain live, yes, and you don't let him marry Anora (only possible if he is hardened when you want Loghain to live). I think he should continue to serve the Grey Wardens in your playthrough.

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Oh, and A LOT of Willpower, Ren :lol:


Lol, I guess I don't have that, then.:lol: I would seriously melt at that, haha.

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@renjility - Thanks for the reply. Hmmmm....maybe he just doesn't work for me. I have tried talking to him before, during and after his side quest in Act 3 (Gamlen, that is); never get his 'take' on any LI. boo
Oh, well. Perhaps once I get my new PC, and install the PC version, I will get it. The xbox version is what I am currently playing with, soo........we shall see. ;)

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renjility wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Okay, can one of you lovely people tell me when I can trigger Gamlen to comment on Fenris and Hawke? I try talking to the 'grouser' in every Act (this is in addition to actual quest related dialogue...i.e. 'All That Remains' and 'Gamlen's Greatest Gift'), but I can never get those LI related banters. Is my Gamlens' broke??? :P


I think he says it in act 3. Possibly only after you have made up with Fenris.

@ Staarbux: Alistair will only become a drunk if you let Loghain live, yes, and you don't let him marry Anora (only possible if he is hardened when you want Loghain to live). I think he should continue to serve the Grey Wardens in your playthrough.


Thanks hon. Am confused again though because I just started Awakenings and it was indicated I'm the last Grey Warden. Well myself and Mhari but we all know what happens to her...


I swear ive had physics exams that were less complicated than this!! Lol

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@ cold: you know it's not a real conversation with Gamlen, don't you? It's just a line he says when you click on him. Well, you've probably clicked on him to talk with him anyway, so you should have gotten it then. I don't kow why he doesn't say it for you then. Maybe he wasn't paying attention. :P

@ Staarbux: Alistair needed a vacation after all the archdemon stuff, lol. Seriously, I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you. I still need to do a playthrough were Alistair remains a Grey Warden, but the description of your ending suggests he really is a Grey Warden. He only makes an appearance if he is king in Awakening as far as I know, so he is just being ignored now. I don't doubt he'll show up in act 2 in DA2. :)

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@ Staarbux: Alistair needed a vacation after all the archdemon stuff, lol. Seriously, I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you. I still need to do a playthrough were Alistair remains a Grey Warden, but the description of your ending suggests he really is a Grey Warden. He only makes an appearance if he is king in Awakening as far as I know, so he is just being ignored now. I don't doubt he'll show up in act 2 in DA2. :)


Really? I thought he made an appearance in DA2 as a Grey Warden if you left him a Grey Warden in DA :o

(During the Qunari invasion in Act 2, when you would normally run into Stroud, you find Grey Warden Alistair instead.)

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Aye I think that's what she means hon - despite what Awakenings says about him, he'll turn up in Act 2 of DA2? She means he only makes an appearance in Awakenings if he was king. :)

Also if Carver was on DeviantArt. Oh man I LOLed...

Edit: There you go - actual URL instead of tweet I accidently pasted instead xD

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Oh, okay! *derp!*

Sorry Staarbux, but the link doesn't seem to be working. =( Could you re-post it?

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I wouldn't say that he's a bad communicator so much as heedless. Alistair is a very immature person in many ways, and up until the Landsmeet, I think he truly believes, or wants to believe at least, that there's no way in hell that he'll be made king.


True, but I think it kind of helps that he was conditioned since early childhood to believe that he was only a half-blood bastard, couldn't be anything but a half-blood bastard, and would never get the throne in a million years as long as King Cailan and other more worthy candidates still live. Granted, Cailan dies, but there are still more worthy candidates than him in his mind.

If you remind him he's a prince, he'll always defer to other people who would ideally be better candidates, like Arl Eamon or Queen Anora, as he was raised to believe that his common blood, lack of experience, and poor leadership skills far out-weigh his noble blood.

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Except that, considering his situation, no matter how much he doesn't want to, he should understand that it's at least a possibility. And warn a non-human noble Warden about it. But he doesn't because "if I ignore it, maybe it'll go away". I can really picture him sticking his fingers in his ears and going "lalalala, I'm not listening! lalalala"


Yeah, there probably was some denial in his unwillingness to communicate the possibility of a breakup with the Warden, I won't deny it. But if the Warden shows enthusiasm for his noble blood and tells him he could/will be king, he still mentions how he worries how being king would change the relationship. So he is somewhat aware, considers the possibility and tries to hint his concerns to the Warden. Like you said though, I think he's also in denial and hopes against hope the Warden will consider his feelings, heed his advice, and find some else to crown without having to have a long, heavy conversation about it.

So, I think it's a little bit of both.

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Of the five origins I've tried so far (still missing City Elf), Human Noble is my least favourite one. I saved it for an Alistair romance, just to try out the "fairytale ending" that people kept talking about. And it just left me underwhelmed on all fronts. Maybe because the Human Noble never quite loses their privileged status, compared to everybody else (even the Dwarf Noble becomes a nobody). Maybe because playing a human in a fantasy RPG feels pointless to me. Maybe because an F!Cousland only has one set of non-horrendous eyebrows, and even then, they look over-tweezed. Either way, my verdict was "blah".


I agree completely. I've played all the origins (City Elf is my favourite though) and tried the human noble just for the sake trying out the "fairytale wedding" as you did, but I couldn't even get past Ostagar. I found it so ungodly boring, underwhelming, and frankly insulting how automatically polite and respectful people were to the human noble even before learning their names, whereas dwarves and especially elves had to earn respect after listening to nay-sayers, doubters, and disrespectful commenters. (Next person who says "My city elf was treated the same as the human noble" or "The human noble has it worst because they started with everything and lost it" gets a tongue-lashing.)

If playing the "default" is this boring, then let me always deviate from the default.

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Actually, I'm pretty sure Fenris is just exceptionally tall for an elf. Don't think any of the other elves are noticeably taller than F!Hawke. Or maybe I just didn't notice. Also, Merrill definitely fits the bill of being both slimmer and shorter than a human.


Really? I don't remember, though I do know the race concept art shows elves and humans to be roughly the same height (with males a little taller than females) and Fenris always seemed pretty tall too, so I just assumed... I don't know. Maybe Fenris is the tall one, I don't remember. It's been a while since I played.

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Still, yeah, I'm pretty sure there would be barbs directed at Fenris for being an elf, especially an elf in a relationship with a human. And I'm positive that he would have a few choice qunari/Tevinter epithets to mutter under his breath about the issue.


Oh, I'm sure he gets annoyed with the barbs about being an elf, (the whole "Manservant?!" mutter in MotA), but what I wonder specifically is whether he gets barbs for being "less manly" for being an elf, and if it annoys him too. Posted Image

As you and others have said though, he probably does, he just mutters about it afterward instead of confronting people directly about it. (I guess it doesn't bother him as much as other insults or issues, like slavery or mages, which he'll openly pick a fight about any day and thrice on holy days.)

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

No, the "sweeping off your feet" is for Fenris only. If Hawke is female, he asks if Fenris swept her off her feet. If Hawke is male, it's the other way round. Which would mean that Varric thinks M!Hawke is the more masculine of the two, I guess.


Well, it is pretty impossile to make a non-buff non-masculine Hawke; I mean the guy pretty much looks like a castmember for Magic Mike no matter what you do xD  I do like to dress him in the Dragonhide Mantle of the Predator though because it does give him smaller arms and a trimmer waist.  He doesn't look like such a behemoth then.

So yeah Varric does make that additional comment of "I assume he did the sweeping; he's taller" ... but he's definitley placing Fenris in the more feminine role.  I think Fenris's backstory makes him more of a candidate for sweeping, too, considering he is the lowly ex-slave and Hawke is THE CHAMPION OF KIRKWALL.  Varric is being silly, and Fenris responds with a bit of a wryly, humorous tone, suggesting (to me) that he's not insulted, possibly because Varric is his buddy (and Hawke's buddy, too).  But there is one thing I would never ask a gay couple, and that's which one did the sweeping *snort*

Well, there are lots of things I wouldn't ask couples, gay or straight, but yeah xD

There is something I am wondering though: in the final Gallows scene, when Hawke and Fenris kiss, Hawke puts his arms around Fenris's waist and pulls him close for a deep kiss.  Fenris puts his arms around Hawke's neck ... a girl's pose.  It's very much a "Fenris as the more feminine one" scene.  And it's sweet and I squee (of course xD) but I wonder if that changes for FemHawke.  As much as I adore kick ass beotches like FemHawke, I think it would look odd if she grabbed her boyfriend in a big manly embrace whilst he swooned ladylike in her arms xDDD

EDIT: forgot to add!!

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Okay, can one of you lovely people tell me when I can trigger Gamlen to comment on Fenris and Hawke? I try talking to the 'grouser' in every Act (this is in addition to actual quest related dialogue...i.e. 'All That Remains' and 'Gamlen's Greatest Gift'), but I can never get those LI related banters. Is my Gamlens' broke??? :P

 

If you go to Gamlen's house and speak to Gamlen to trigger the quest "Gamlen's Greatest Treasure" ... click on him afterward and he will say the line about Hawke and Fenris.  That's when I always do it.  This is in Act 3.

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Well since you ladies veered off course and into a lake...I might as well jump in and join the swim.

For origins I'm in a 3 way stuck to play as Dwarf-Mage-CE.

I mean for Mage it's obvious I can control who lives and who dies. For Dwarf I pick the casteless cause I love that untouchable caste system story line up and becoming paragon.....but Im a sucker for CE as my top pick.
Why, you might ask? Easy. Gutting Vaughan like a pig for Shianni's stolen honor. Brings a huge smile on my face knowing he's dead early in the game and not later in a cage when I can gut him and leaves me wondering the fate of my Tabris

....so yeah Im not into elves that badly (except Fen-fen) but I will go on a rip roaring revenge origins as CE and curbstomp a rapist.

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....so yeah Im not into elves that badly (except Fen-fen) but I will go on a rip roaring revenge origins as CE and curbstomp a rapist.


Hear, hear.  God that was satisfying.

Favorites for me are City Elf and Dalish!

Someone recently said they just finished romancing Leliana.  I applaud people who romance outside the box, i.e. outside ones chosen/favorite love interest.  One day I will complete Alistair's romance ... one day...  And I have an Anders romance just hanging out somewhere in Act 2.  Yet all I can think of is restarting and romancing Fenris =\\

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renjility wrote...

@ cold: you know it's not a real conversation with Gamlen, don't you? It's just a line he says when you click on him. Well, you've probably clicked on him to talk with him anyway, so you should have gotten it then. I don't kow why he doesn't say it for you then. Maybe he wasn't paying attention. :P

@ Staarbux: Alistair needed a vacation after all the archdemon stuff, lol. Seriously, I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you. I still need to do a playthrough were Alistair remains a Grey Warden, but the description of your ending suggests he really is a Grey Warden. He only makes an appearance if he is king in Awakening as far as I know, so he is just being ignored now. I don't doubt he'll show up in act 2 in DA2. :)



Ha!  Exactly; he just doesn't pay attention.Posted Image  Yeah, I knew it was just a banter and not a dialogue, he just has never said it...bah.  It isn't a big deal, but I find there are a number of little things like that in my copy of DA2, that I can't seem to trigger.  By gum though, I shall have ALL the convos/banters/useless fluff with my PC version!  (I'm just that kind of an 'upbeat' gal! <smirk>)Posted Image

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