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[Dutchess]

[quote]aldien wrote...

[quote]renjility wrote...

[quote]berelinde wrote...

Got a question for you Fenris fans. Do you think he can swim?

Since, for people who don't live on islands where shellfish fishing or pearl diving is a way to make a living, I'm thinking that swimming is a leisure activity and that a former slave would never have learned, but I'm curious what you think.[/quote]

Hmm, I think he can't swim. Minrathous is a port city, but I doubt there was time to teach him. 

We still need a Fenris on this page.

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Fenris must have soiled himself when he was escaping via boat, Ren. I just wanted to say that I appreciate you are posting both FHawke and MHawke piccies It is very considerate unlike the rest of us biased bastards Mostly me.[/quote]

You're welcome. With the recent debate about it, I thought it would be better not to force something that is not everybody's preference on the thread. And I like both female and male Hawke, so for me it's only win.


[quote]I read today that speculation says DA3 will be delayed a year due to the team being needed elsewhere on another project. Heresay, but what was said made sense. Thought I'd throw that out there. Interestingly, people assume another year will equal greater quality in the end product. Nonsense I say! It is either production lined or crafted. Same with everything.[/quote]

Isn't that an older rumor? I believe I have read that before here. I don't know how much of it is true. The devs seem to dodge the subject. Bwegh, unfortunately the only thing we can do is wait for an official announcement about DA3. Well, and talk about Fenris, of course. My fic is still going. I'm not done with the sexy elf yet.

An old-fashioned ToP.


Dino-Myte 


MarikaCzajkowa 

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[berelinde]

motomotogirl wrote...

Is this for fanfic?  I think either explanation would work, meaning, neither one will make your reader call foul  If you wanted him to seem vulnerable, then BOOM, you've got your scene where it's revealed he can't swim.  If you want him to see him capable and swoon-worthy, then BOOM, you've got your scene whre he escapes from the notorious smugglers by slipping into the water and moving, stealth-like, through the depths...

Works both ways xD 

It is for a fanfic. If you're curious about the details, keep reading. Otherwise, ignore. 

On the surface, it puts Fenris in a position where he's going to feel powerless and rage about it in a swoon-worthily protective manner. No one here needs to be told about Fenris's protective side. On a deeper level, I want it to illustrate how, by his refusal to learn (he objects to the teacher), he is still clinging to the shackles of his former life. Later on, he will relent and allow Hawke to teach him, which is intended to show a growing trust between them, even if their rivalry is pretty well established by this point.

In this fic, Fenris and Hawke have not spent as much private time together as they could have done, and I'm looking for an event that will allow Hawke to see that Fenris does have feelings toward him beyond a distrust of his magic even if neither of them is ready to explore them at this time. This is a playthrough fic (I know, one of *those*) and they're still in Act 1, so no hanky-panky for a while.

[Dutchess]

Can't the reading lessons fill the same role? It sounds pretty similar to me. I don't mean to bash the idea; swimming lessons can do the trick too, and open up other possibilities (less clothing, hahaha, or maybe that's just my perverted imagination xD).

Is there a reason you choose to use swimming instead of reading/writing? Just curious.

[berelinde]

This is a rivalry path and Hawke moves on after Fenris. Fenris doesn't allow rival Hawke to teach him to read once the possibilities for romance are over. I wanted there to be a sense of loss on Hawke's part, the knowledge that he has squandered the trust Fenris placed in him.

Plus, hot guys naked in the water. How do you say no to that?

[AbsoluteApril]

Staarbux wrote...

Whoa.....linkage?

I don't want to get the person in trouble, but they did post it publically. Shoot, is there a way to find comments you'e made on DA? I didn't appear to favorite the picture the comments were made on.

Sounded like it would only be cameos, also mentioned Hawke and Warden would have cameos.

I still hope they let us re-choose decisions via a journal or comic at the start of DA3 so we can ensure all the choices import correctly. Bugged cameos suck (and people showing up that are supposed to be dead).

[CuriousArtemis]

berelinde wrote...

This is a rivalry path and Hawke moves on after Fenris. Fenris doesn't allow rival Hawke to teach him to read once the possibilities for romance are over. I wanted there to be a sense of loss on Hawke's part, the knowledge that he has squandered the trust Fenris placed in him.

Plus, hot guys naked in the water. How do you say no to that?

I was about to say xD That would be all the reason I need 

[dracuella]

berelinde wrote...

This is a rivalry path and Hawke moves on after Fenris. Fenris doesn't allow rival Hawke to teach him to read once the possibilities for romance are over. I wanted there to be a sense of loss on Hawke's part, the knowledge that he has squandered the trust Fenris placed in him.

Plus, hot guys naked in the water. How do you say no to that?

*cough* If you're not doing it yourself, I hope you get someone to illustrate some of the scenes. I would MELT!  ^___^

[Dwarva]

 So yeah I've just started playing Awakenings for the first time and am totally in love with Nathanial.  I must just be attracted to the broody sorts! When he says 'your wish is my command'.... I literally quiver lol.

[CuriousArtemis]

Staarbux wrote...

 So yeah I've just started playing Awakenings for the first time and am totally in love with Nathanial.  I must just be attracted to the broody sorts! When he says 'your wish is my command'.... I literally quiver lol.

Nathaniel is HOT!!  I would definitely prefer him over Cullen as a companion for DA3.  Although both would be ideal, haha xD

[aldien]

AbsoluteApril wrote...

Staarbux wrote...

Whoa.....linkage?

I don't want to get the person in trouble, but they did post it publically. Shoot, is there a way to find comments you'e made on DA? I didn't appear to favorite the picture the comments were made on.

Sounded like it would only be cameos, also mentioned Hawke and Warden would have cameos.

I still hope they let us re-choose decisions via a journal or comic at the start of DA3 so we can ensure all the choices import correctly. Bugged cameos suck (and people showing up that are supposed to be dead).

You could always look in your browser history for the page. Was it one of the artists? Do you remember their name?

Ugggggg cameos. My knickers suddenly twisted.

I really do not think they are going to focus on importing choices this time around. From what I have read on this forum by the devs, they are trying to start anew without the weight of importing decisions from the other games in to DA3. My theory is one brief interlude or conversation concerning Hawke and the Warden and that wll be it.

Moto wrote: Nathaniel is HOT!! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie] I would definitely prefer him over Cullen as a companion for DA3.  Although both would be ideal, haha xD

I doubt Nathaniel will be an LI. But Cullen is almost certain to either be an LI or have a major role. David Gaider loves him and how the art department made him look. Many people really want him as an LI. Personally, I can't see the appeal. I guess that's why I am on the Fenris thread instead of the Cullen thread I am extremely interested to see what they accomplish under the reigns of EA.

Modifié par aldien, 01 juillet 2012 - 08:42 .

[Dutchess]

^I wouldn't worry too much about imports for now, because I've seen topics about this, and there the devs said they still intended to keep the import system, and are trying to find the best way to do that. So there's hope.

I have never seen much in Nathaniel, and Cullen doesn't get my motor running either. I suspect Cullen will indeed be in the party for DA3, and probably be a LI as well. Perhaps he will become more interesting for me then, but for now I really couldn't care less. I'll just wait and see what the writers can come up with.

Fenris still does it for me. I rewatched the make up scene in act 3 a couple of times, because I have reached that point in my fic (more sexy times, yay! XD) and I couldn't keep a silly grin off my face. The "nothing can be worse than the thought of living without you" and the kiss at the end are just too cute, too hot, too.... aaagh. *goes back to Word to continue writing*

[Nilfalasiel]

renjility wrote...

^I wouldn't worry too much about imports for now, because I've seen topics about this, and there the devs said they still intended to keep the import system, and are trying to find the best way to do that. So there's hope.

Well, if they do keep it, it better be working properly this time around...

I have never seen much in Nathaniel, and Cullen doesn't get my motor running either.

Likewise here. I find Nate too bland, and I can't quite forget about Cullen's "KILL ALL THE MAGES" episode from DAO. Also, I don't like frizzy hair >.>

Anders and Fenris are quite enough for my DA2 pixel-ogling needs. With some Varric thrown in as well...

[aldien]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

renjility wrote...

^I wouldn't worry too much about imports for now, because I've seen topics about this, and there the devs said they still intended to keep the import system, and are trying to find the best way to do that. So there's hope.

Well, if they do keep it, it better be working properly this time around...

I have never seen much in Nathaniel, and Cullen doesn't get my motor running either.

Likewise here. I find Nate too bland, and I can't quite forget about Cullen's "KILL ALL THE MAGES" episode from DAO. Also, I don't like frizzy hair >.>

Anders and Fenris are quite enough for my DA2 pixel-ogling needs. With some Varric thrown in as well...

Also, I don't like frizzy hair >.>

ROFL! I wasn't going to say it for fear of offending someone but there it is. LOL!

Fenris still does it for me too. Hanging around for the smexy pictures and the chance to relive the nice moments with the elf. It's a testament to his smexiness that the thread is still going strong.

MMmmmmmm Varric. Working on my first Varric smexy fic ever. <3 It reminded me why I love the dwarf too

It's nice to know you are still working on your fic, Ren. I'm hoping fanfic writers keep Fenris going for as long as possible. He is lurvely. You must be on chapter 2000 by now Ren

Modifié par aldien, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:11 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

Hey Nathenial had my motor running when I first played awakenings...I mean daddy issues(when I killed him) broody, an archer and bland enough to not catch others attention? Had a lady boner harder than a left turn downtown.....just too bad he'll be 10-15 years before his calling...and hung on Valenna the pyscho clown ears.

*Sigh* theres still hope with fenris and hawke.(and hopefully Zevran....sorry just not into Alistair. I made Anora queen, commoner woman with common sense unite! What what?)

[dracuella]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

renjility wrote...
I have never seen much in Nathaniel, and Cullen doesn't get my motor running either. 

Likewise here. I find Nate too bland, and I can't quite forget about Cullen's "KILL ALL THE MAGES" episode from DAO. Also, I don't like frizzy hair >.>

Anders and Fenris are quite enough for my DA2 pixel-ogling needs. With some Varric thrown in as well...

The first time I saw someone even mentioning Cullen as a LI I was flabbergasted. I could not for the life of me imagine anyone wanting that whiny, mage-hating bugger in their lives, let alone loving him. And when I started DA2 I was so annoyed he was the one in charge second to Meredith that I went out of my way to take sarcastic dialogue choices just to see if I could tick him off. So as I write this I cannot in any way imagine myself romancing him if he becomes a LI in DA3. Just like you, I can't get past his insanity in DAO despite the fact he has obviously mellowed out since then. 

But I should mention I am a mage to the core and always side with the mages in the final stand. And I've been reading the Wiki which states that if you side with the Templars, you apparently get to see a very different side to him. Perhaps his sentiment and actions/behaviour towards a Hawke siding with the Templars will be so different that you see him in a different light? I don't know, it's possible. I'm tempted trying to reload a save to try it but I'm not sure I could really do it. <3 mages :innocent:

[Dwarva]

Yeah I'm not a megafan of Cullen either tbh. He's not without his charm but the general consensus is that he's quite innocent and virginal and that just doesn't really float my boat really. I do disagree with not liking him based (partly) on the 'mages aren't people' statement. The full line is 'mages aren't people like you or I' (IIRC) and, depending on where you put the emphasis on the sentence, I've always assumed he meant 'they're not people like you or I'. And, well, no they're not. Mages are pretty different to your average Joe on the streets of Kirkwall. Cullen doesn't do it for me but I don't see him as an inherently bad guy like many do. I think it would be bloody difficult to get over the situation that happened in the Fereldan circle and, by being lenient on the mages of Kirkwall (ie Bethany) it's pretty clear he's not the same guy you meet in the Tower who's just seen his friends and colleagues mutilated by blood mages...

Until now my personal fanfic pairing of choice has always been FHawkexFenris but the more CouslandxNathanial I read...the more potential I think it has. They've got a good background which can create an interesting foundation for a story. So much so that I'm tempted to write some actually...

Modifié par Staarbux, 02 juillet 2012 - 08:44 .

[Dutchess]

^My Cousland killed Nathaniel. She was a bit of a... vengeful type.

aldien wrote...

It's nice to know you are still working on your fic, Ren. I'm hoping fanfic writers keep Fenris going for as long as possible. He is lurvely. You must be on chapter 2000 by now Ren

LOL, well, I'm not that far, haha. Currently working on chapter 27. Already 131 pages in Word and more than 88,000 words. xD And not done yet.:innocent: Well, I think I'll do one more chapter after this one to wrap up events in act 3. And then I'll start a sequel that takes place post-game and runs entirely on my imagination  (I stick with the lore and conversations in the game, I don't change things). 

I still get alerts of new readers, so I guess Fenris still has fans that are interested in reading about him.



by ekocentric

[Dwarva]

Faerunner wrote...

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Of course it won't start an argument my lovely. I'm more than willing to accept there are opinions out there that aren't the same as mine. And for what it's worth, I do understand why people aren't so keen on Cullen. I'm 100% pro-mage too (apart from one playthrough where I went pro-Templar just to get the achievement/see dialogue - it was horrible though...) and can understand how his views are hurtful.

[MissRedZelda]

(Raises hand) Um . . . Cullen fan here . . . Only with Amell/Surana though/ Cullen and Hawke? No! No, no, a thousand times no. Hawke/Fenris only!

I just think Cullen has great character development potential. The end of DA2 was a great turning point for his character, because even if you side with the mages (like I did), he'll still stand up for you when Meredith orders your execution. At the start of Origins, he was not a mage hater. In fact, he didn't agree with the way the Chantry treated them (he was in love F!Amell/Surana as well). He only became a mage hater after the incident at the Tower. And honestly, I can't blame him for it. He had just watched all of his friends and colleagues get mutilated by psychotic blood mages. Who wouldn't some out of that mentally scarred?

I always take him "mages cannot be treated like people" outburst as part of his PTSD. I'm very pro-mage, and I can understand why some would take offence to his words. But I can't bring myself to hate Cullen for that. The reason being because I feel too much sympathy for him and what he's been through. Plus, I don't believe he completely hates mages, even then. Because, if you import a save where you played as a female human mage, he mentions her, implying that he is still deeply in love with her. If he was a complete mage hater, then why would he still acknowledge his feelings for the female Amell mage?

Now, on my views on Cullen as a companion and potential love interest. I'm all for it. I think it would provide some excellent character development for him if he was to join the DA3's ragtag group of misfits. I would most probably play as a mage. So, to have him possibly fall in love with another mage would make great poetic justice ;-)

Ahem. Sorry for going off topic.

So . . . Fenris in DA3, please Bioware! And please no make him ugly :-(

[Dwarva]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Now, on my views on Cullen as a companion and potential love interest. I'm all for it. I think it would provide some excellent character development for him if he was to join the DA3's ragtag group of misfits. I would most probably play as a mage. So, to have him possibly fall in love with another mage would make great poetic justice ;-)

It would be doubly interesting if they were also connected to the Amells in some way. I can imagine poor LI Cullen having an 'MAKER!! ARE YOU JOKING??!?!' moment.

[Dutchess]

Although I have not really much interest in Cullen as a LI, he did turn out more reasonable in DA2 than I had expected based on DAO. He mostly appears to be pretty level-headed and did not continue in the mage-hating mentality he developed in the previous game. I was actually surprised he did not seem blinded by fear and hatred. So in that regard I did like him.

I also lol'ed when he ran away after my mage suggested they would get to know each other better in Origins. That was pretty amusing.

Anyway.... Fenris. Random question: what knd of books do you think he prefers once he has learned how to read?

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

Although I have not really much interest in Cullen as a LI, he did turn out more reasonable in DA2 than I had expected based on DAO. He mostly appears to be pretty level-headed and did not continue in the mage-hating mentality he developed in the previous game. I was actually surprised he did not seem blinded by fear and hatred. So in that regard I did like him.

I also lol'ed when he ran away after my mage suggested they would get to know each other better in Origins. That was pretty amusing.

Anyway.... Fenris. Random question: what knd of books do you think he prefers once he has learned how to read?

Good question.

Hopefully Hawke has a very extensive self help section in the library

Well, ideally I would hope Fenris would read fiction simply for the pleasure of reading. I did notice there is a book in his mansion in Act III entitles: The Maker's First Children. Whether we are supposed to assume he is reading it or not who can say. But, perhaps that is Sebastian's influence on him?

Modifié par aldien, 02 juillet 2012 - 03:00 .

[LolaLei]

renjility wrote...

Although I have not really much interest in Cullen as a LI, he did turn out more reasonable in DA2 than I had expected based on DAO. He mostly appears to be pretty level-headed and did not continue in the mage-hating mentality he developed in the previous game. I was actually surprised he did not seem blinded by fear and hatred. So in that regard I did like him.

I also lol'ed when he ran away after my mage suggested they would get to know each other better in Origins. That was pretty amusing.

Anyway.... Fenris. Random question: what knd of books do you think he prefers once he has learned how to read?

I'm all for Cullen as a LI.

But anyway, I know a book Fenris would read: "Fear & Lothering in Las Thedas" - by Varric Tethras

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