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aldien wrote...
Why did you think I was ignoring you? :) I don't ignore anyone on here. Usually they ignore me :D

I know you can be an elf in DAO. How am I supposed to resist being an elf? Well, I tend to ignore the sexist regimes that were imposed in real Medieval history.I have a hard time roleplaying as a man since I don't have the right tackle ;)


:innocent:

I thought I was way above that sexist aspect too. But when my little mage fem-elf (a very definition of naive and innocense, raised in a mage tower with no knowlege of outside world) was suddenly in charge of brutal warriors far more experienced and familiar with appointed tasks and they LISTENT to her without a single objection - I had to reroll. But that's just me. 

Have not finished a single game with a man as a main character yet (guess I take "avatar" thing too literally) but had started many times just to make piece with the setting first :D

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Human Noble? Tsssk, elven warden for the win! :P

The dwarven origins are great too. My first character was an elven mage. Oh, and DAO was my very first RPG. Man, did I suck. xD

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I'm considering rolling a dwarf for my new playthrough of DAO but think it's a little awkward for the romance. Just.....practically? I think Alistair and Zev look a little odd with a Dwarven female.

so I might not romance her with anyone......do I dare? lol...

Edit: Actually....do you still get all the normal romance scene with dwarves? The only ones I can see on YouTube all say mods. :unsure: Can you still kiss your LI randomly while out on quests and is there a full romance scene?

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Staarbux wrote...

I'm considering rolling a dwarf for my new playthrough of DAO but think it's a little awkward for the romance. Just.....practically? I think Alistair and Zev look a little odd with a Dwarven female.

so I might not romance her with anyone......do I dare? lol...

Edit: Actually....do you still get all the normal romance scene with dwarves? The only ones I can see on YouTube all say mods. :unsure: Can you still kiss your LI randomly while out on quests and is there a full romance scene?


I don't see much of a problem in a romance with a female dwarf. It's the male dwarf I can't picture Morrigan or Leliana with. And yes, your dwarf can still kiss her honey when she wants, as far as I know. I've read that the Zevran kiss with a female dwarf is cute.^_^

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Amirit wrote...

aldien wrote...
Why did you think I was ignoring you? :) I don't ignore anyone on here. Usually they ignore me :D

I know you can be an elf in DAO. How am I supposed to resist being an elf? Well, I tend to ignore the sexist regimes that were imposed in real Medieval history.I have a hard time roleplaying as a man since I don't have the right tackle ;)


:innocent:

I thought I was way above that sexist aspect too. But when my little mage fem-elf (a very definition of naive and innocense, raised in a mage tower with no knowlege of outside world) was suddenly in charge of brutal warriors far more experienced and familiar with appointed tasks and they LISTENT to her without a single objection - I had to reroll. But that's just me. 

Have not finished a single game with a man as a main character yet (guess I take "avatar" thing too literally) but had started many times just to make piece with the setting first :D


I could see how that would be difficult to reconcile. I love elves so much, I don't how I could resist. :/ I will have to pretend she has been reading lots of books concerning the art of war in her tower ;)

I think I am rebelling because in most FPS games I've played, you are in the role of a man. If I'm going to roleplay, I'm going to do it as a woman. Men... bah! I'm sick of you ;) hehehehe


What is your favorite rpg of all time Ren? Have you played Skyrim? I haven't seen anyone mention it on this thread. I was wondering what other people thought of the game.

You can play as a dwarf in a romance with a human???

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renjility wrote...

I don't see much of a problem in a romance with a female dwarf. It's the male dwarf I can't picture Morrigan or Leliana with. And yes, your dwarf can still kiss her honey when she wants, as far as I know. I've read that the Zevran kiss with a female dwarf is cute.^_^


Oh there's not a problem with it. :pinched: It's just it might look a bit odd, no? But having looked at a vid now the height difference doesn't actually look miles away from the difference between my boyfriend and I haha...

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This is what I am trying to say - in case of elves there is nothing to forgive. They are simply not worth his emotions, whatever those emotions are. An elf has to work ten times harder to get his attention then any mage. :)


But that's just what I don't understand. If there is nothing to forgive, then there is nothing to prevent him from liking or respecting someone with qualities he feels are worthy of friendship or respect. I don't think Fenris is so closed-minded that he'll insist on seeing someone as dirt even after they prove they are worthy of his time. That takes effort (to willfully disregard proof in favour of prejudice), so I don't think Fenris would put more effort into looking down on an elf than a mage
.To be quite honest, after getting over his initial disbelief, I can kind of see Fenris having an eaier time warming up to an elven protagonist. On topof possessing all the qualities he admires in any Hawke, said elf ills just like him; another elf that's working and fighting hard to improve their lot in life instead of blindly accepting scraps huminity throws them.. Sure, they're born into freedom, but they're still living in a shem's world, and they're actively trying to find a worthy place in it despite all the odds against them, much like him.That's my way of looking at it, at any rate.s

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aldien wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...
**snip**


*Hangover* Man evil... Made me get up with daughter. Bah!

I am so dense sometimes, but I do like pickles ;).  My preferred weapons last night: Cabernet Sauvignon, Chardonnay and I suspect I had some Tempranillo. I could have drunk Fenris under the table and possibly into my bed last night. :devil:

hammered<------- I'm adding to our list of slang words for drunk, that way when we are drunk again we will know what we are talking about.  Ummmmm yeah. ;)

I did have some experience with the Elder Scrolls series before DA, as in, I owned Daggerfall all those years ago. I'm old :/  But things NWN and Baldur's Gate never interested me.

So what is your over-all impression of RPG's?


Many of them have bad storylines or very similar storylines. I know they all have their roots in D&D paper based games so it's understandable. Many of them, including DA, borrow from Tolkien and mythology in general. I don't have a problem with that but I don't like it when people try to pretend they had the original idea. What makes an rpg isn't so much the world it is set in, because you can have the most beautiful scenery known to man in a game, but if the characters are very one dimensional then the game becomes stagnant quickly. (That would be Skyrim, which I bought after DA2). On the flipside of that, you need to have enough cosmetic beauty, choices, weapons, clothes, things to buy and upgrades to keep it interesting. DA2 did not have that.

Grittiness is great in a FPS, but I've discovered through the Witcher 2 that it works best in an rpg. Hard choices, moral gray areas, compelling characters and choices and SEX!  I guess of all the things, a great story and characters is the key to an rpg. If I could take the Witcher2, Skyrim, DA2 and the level design of Half-Life 2 and put it all together, bar rocket launchers and crowbars, that would be the perfect rpg for me :D

What bugs me is that BW put and M rating on their games but they didn't bother getting anyone naked in DA2. That was a wasted opportunity. I do think it is important that if you are going declare sexual content on a package that there be some damn it!


Do you think you might give DAO a try?

After seeing the pictures above, talking to Fae and spending a year not really having a clue what my nonexistent warden did in the last game, yes I think I better or I may go insane. ;) I play rpg's on pc.

.....and I ain't going to bed
till my bedroom reaches a comfortable 74 degrees (it's freekin' hot in
here....Dayumm!)


I understand that all too well. It has been 90+ degrees here since June every damn day. :( My tomatoes are great though. :D


BTW...Oscar is curled up next to me, while the cats are trying to get ON
me....don't they understand it is roasting out?? Sheesh. Dog was none
to happy about the heat; he is a Black Pug after all. HA!


*scratches behind Oscar's ear. Who is a cute puppy?* Poor Oscar :( I hope you are keeping him cool. What is it with cats? Why do they need to be roasting all of the time?

So what about you Cold? What's your favorite rpg of all time? What was your first rpg? What do you want to see in DA3?


hehehe.....you so funny, Aldien!
Water, my pet.....drink lots of water and grab some fruit to rebalance your sugar levels.Posted Image
Oh, and to add to your "hammered"....brined, blitzed, and toasted.  hehehehe!
 
I am actually in agreement about TES (though I never got Skyrim).  Lots to do, but it lacked real depth with characters and story.  Unfortunately, I did very poorly with games like Oblivion; even though you can play in third person, you can't hit the broad side of a barn with any range attacks....so you really have to play in first person, and that is one thing I can't do.  I have the issues with peripheral vision/perspective in FP games.  Eventually I get a bit dizzy, then the headaches come on, right behind my eyesPosted Image.  So as you can imagine, I don't play FPS.Posted Image

As for my first RPG, ummmm....I'm not sure.  I started out playing games like Gabriel Knight and Phantasmagoria with my husband, during the early/mid 90's.  I had one gamer friend who did own a copy of BG, which I did play with her.  My husband and I switched to consoles back in the late 90's, for the majority of our gaming.  I played a lot of Hack/Slash games, and a couple of platformers (I stink at them....hehe!).  Still played the occasional adventure game.

When I first read about DAO coming out, I had been combing gaming mags and internet sites for new hack n' slash games.  This game sounded like it might be right up my alley.  Little did I know, that it really wasn't a H/S game.  I was TERRIBLE at it...HA!  It took forever to figure out the gameplay mechanics (party playing, tactics.....), and I was always very trepidation on working with the dialogue.  I was so afraid I would "pick the wrong option"Posted Image.  Finally slogged through my first play through, with a meek and wishy-washy female HN.  Had her marry Alistair, after making him king, but they had never done the nasty....didn't even know that they could!  hahahaha.....talk about a "green" run!Posted ImagePosted Image
After finishing that Warden out, I finally got online, and started looking things up.  Learned much.Posted Image  So, I started up a new Elf Rogue (Dalish first, but City Elf became my favorite), and boy howdy!  I got much better, and wasn't afraid to try any dialogue option.  I REALLY got into the RP aspect as well....made up a nice backstory for her, and setup personality perameters so that her dialogue choices seemed quite natural.  I was hooked.

Very long post later.....DAO led me to DA2 (and obviously, enjoy this game as well), and the DA franchise led me to ME.  I play the hell out of the first two ME's (couldn't even finish me3).  These games have made me somewhat addicted to RPG's now (though I still can't play games like FF....tried, but didn't enjoy it.)

So last little bit, in reference to playing on the PC.  I am currently switching back to PC playing (just started playing DAO and DA2 on the PC....use to play them on the xbox), and with all the mods you can use for DAO.....TOO.  MUCH.  FUN.
Posted ImagePosted Image  And if you want a little more "steam" in your M rated games, DAO mods will give you that (if you choose).  Let me know when you are ready to play, and I get you a list of some mods.  HAPPY GAMING!!Posted Image 

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Faerunner wrote...

But that's just what I don't understand. If there is nothing to forgive, then there is nothing to prevent him from liking or respecting someone with qualities he feels are worthy of friendship or respect.


Let's put it like this: for example, if you love blond hair and hate black. In any given crowd first you will notece people with those hair colors. Anyone else would have to do something extraordinary to get your attention, while blondies and brunettes get it for free. Sure, this extraordinary thing can be arranged (that is what story for, right?) but still - anyone else out of your love-hate spectrum has to make some efford to be noteced. 

You CAN make the story about Fenris and elves. But human mages get it for granted NOW.

coldwetn0se wrote...

Posted ImagePosted Image  And if you want a little more "steam" in your M rated games, DAO mods will give you that (if you choose).  Let me know when you are ready to play, and I get you a list of some mods.  HAPPY GAMING!!Posted Image 

 

And if someone else ask for that list? :innocent:

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@Amirit - Then I would gladly give it....hehehe! Give me a sec, and I'll PM you with the list. All of them come from the DA Nexus site, though some of them you can get through the project lists here on the BSN. :)

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@ aldien: my favourite RPG would be DAO. I died an awful lot on my first playthrough (I refused to put the difficulty down to easy, haha. Oh, pride) but the companions had me totally hooked. I was madly in love with Alistair on my first playthrough (my elf actually did find out she could do the nasty, haha). But then he broke my heart. :( Tried to make Zevran my rebound, but I had already run out of romance triggers in conversations.
Eventually I tried Mass Effect as well, because I was never that much into science fiction. But again, the characters got me hooked. I was on the edge of my chair during the last mission in ME2, afraid that Garrus might die, haha.

I have Skyrim too, yeah, and it's awesome! Dawnguard is finally available for PC, and now my Nord is running around as a werewolf. I'm mod addict, so the game looks even more gorgeous than in the beginning. Every time I walk through the world I'm gawking. I still can scarcely believe how huge it is. I have already a lot of hours put into that game, with different characters, and still have not seen it all. Not even close.


On a different note, I agree the love scenes, or lack thereof, were disappointing. I don't need naked humping. Something like in ME1 would be fine. Just a subtle hint of intimacy. Unfortunately I get the vibe we can't expect much of an improvement in the next DA. David GAider at least isn't a fan of the love scenes and doesn't understand at all why someone would want to see them, except for perverted reasons.

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Ok Amirite, I PM'ed you! Enjoy! :D

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A thousand thanks!

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Ooh, are we talking about Elder Scrolls? I started playing those back with Arena (yes, I'm old; at least I'm not alone in that), though I never did get all the way through that one or Daggerfall; something about how it took so long to look behind me when a monster would attack from behind just freaked me out, I kept trying to play them and giving up eventually. But I LOVED Morrowind; I probably put in over a month in actual playing time on that game. The characters did tend to be flat, but the ones that really mattered had some depth to them (though still not nearly as much as Bioware puts in), and everything about the combat, magic, etc. was just fantastic.

Oblivion was also good, but I didn't like how closed it was. In Morrowind, you could tell the people trying to give you orders exactly where to get off and go do whatever you wanted - and still finish the main quest. Hell, you could go straight from the starting area to the "final boss" if you really felt like just getting it over with, and then you have the whole world to play around in, and it felt huge. And if you really wanted, you didn't even have to fight Dagoth Ur - you could join him. :|a

Skyrim has been enjoyable, but my favourite spells are gone (flight and chameleon) and again, it's too linear - sure, you can stop doing a questline and go do other quests, but there's very few ways to actually complete most quests. And whenever someone complains about too many fetch quests in DA2 and holds up Skyrim as a good example, I laugh myself sick, because the Radiant quest system is all about interchangeable, boring quests like "go to this place and get this" or "go there and kill that." Honestly, I spend most of my time in Skyrim just exploring, because that's the most entertaining part - seeing all the scenery. It's not even like they don't reuse environments pretty egregiously, they just cover their tracks a little better than DA2 did . . .

And, speaking of DA2, here's a question: what do you all think Fenris would think about the Elder Scrolls world? Magic EVERYWHERE, pretty much anyone is capable of at least minor cantrips if they want to learn; elves of lots of types that live more or less equal with humans in most places, with varying regional prejudices (and one of the worst culprits there are the Altmer, the High Elves, whose leading faction considers all other races, even other elves, to be little more than animals . . .), so on, so forth.

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I hear Fenris has joined the Imperial Legion... hehe, okay, okay, kidding. But it's hard to place his character in the Elder Scrolls world, because of what you already mentioned. Magic has a different role in that setting, although mages are mistrusted there as well, at least in Skyrim. I don't think he would be friends with the Thalmor, haha. He is more of a woodelf type, I think.

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Sorry for the length of this. Replying to many people at once and excited about discussion :DD

LOL! Cold! I think I could have done with sitting in ice cubes this morning. Have we said 'sloshed' yet? Add it to our list!!!

I was probably one hour into ME3 when I quit. The lip synching killed me, there's no excuse for it and I can say that with confidence. People laughed at me when I told them my first ME experience was ME3. Well, obviously I missed something, but I'm not ready to try ME1 or 2 just yet after what I experienced in 3.

Cold said:  I have the issues with peripheral vision/perspective in FP games.  Eventually I get a bit dizzy, then the
headaches come on, right behind my eye. So as you can imagine, I don't play


Unfortunately, if a gaming company has always adhered to FPS, they never do third person very well or they ignore it completely and vice versa. However, I believe that third person is better all around. When you can see the body moving, rather than floating, I think you feel more empathy for the character(s). You see people react to physics and the body respond in the way the human eye recognizes, whereas in FPS there is no turbulence and a bit of red when you get hit. It's like an out of body experience. That is one of the things that I think makes a huge difference in gameplay. It's definitely one thing Half-Life (Valve) does wrong and I don't usually bite the hand that has fed me. Agree on platformers. I always hated them :/

 It's nice to see you come back to PC, Cold. It gets discounted these days and I understand why, but I'm too old to change my ways ;)As soon as I am set up I am going to be asking for that mod list, Cold. Thank you so much! :D I'd buy you a drink if I could.:D

Renny, Ren, Ren...Did you play ME3? I couldn't do it. :/ I didn't play 1 and 2, but still... a game should be able to stand on its own no matter if it is a sequel or not, especially when it comes to new players.

David GAider at least isn't a fan of the love scenes and doesn't understand at all why someone would want to see them, except for perverted reasons.

What's wrong with perverted reasons? I don't need the actual humping. You end up with hands through heads and chests. But... I would argue (not with you Ren :D ) that, if we are on the realism
trip, sex is part of life and a very well directed scene can do wonders for player attachment. And that definitely never hurt the payroll. But  Game companies and writers get set in their ways just like old ladies. It's important to change things up.

Harle said:

Ooh, are we talking about Elder Scrolls? I started playing
those back with Arena (yes, I'm old; at least I'm not alone in that), though I
never did get all the way through that one or Daggerfall; something about how
it took so long to look behind me when a monster would attack from behind just
freaked me out.


Let me just put on my bifocals ;) I am teasing you and I have to admit it makes a nice change to just... talk :D




Oh you are making me nostalgic. :D



Arena was awful! I think it has officially been declared the
worst of all Bethesda
games. But Daggerfall... oh I loved that game, although I do remember being
told to make the damn horse stop neighing. The sound of water or being under it
when I played Daggerfall used to scare me to death. Sometimes, you would hear
water and then fall through the map. You could actually see the whole map, like
an out of body experience, and you would be stuck in the black void, as I liked
to call it. Sometimes, I could swim my player across the blackness and back
into the map. If I did it just right I would end up a level above or below
where I needed to be. LOL! Oh, I feel so very damn old right now! The random messenger used to freak me out .You would be sitting on your horse (the only one in town mind you) and everything would stop when the messenger found you. I don't know exactly why, but in Daggerfall when you were being naughty, thieving, lying what have you, it felt wrong like it does in real life. You felt caught out like you stepped out of your house naked.

 I loved Morrowind too. It was more D&D. I wanted to be
an Ashlander!

The concept of Dragonborn is unique and the use of language
for power was close to my Tolkien heart. Whoever came up with the concept of
connecting a raw magical power with a word is a genius in my book. Language
unites people and divides them and it does have the ability to change people
and the world. It sounds silly, but think about leaders who changed history
through speeches. Words = power.

But after the Dragonborn quest and the civil war quest, I
started to gradually lose interest. The side quests do nothing and are somewhat
repetitive in nature.

Harle said: Whenever someone complains about too many fetch quests
in DA2 and holds up Skyrim as a good example, I laugh myself sick, because the
Radiant quest system is all about interchangeable, boring quests like "go
to this place and get this" or "go there and kill that."
Honestly, I spend most of my time in Skyrim just exploring, because that's the
most entertaining part - seeing all the scenery. It's not even like they don't
reuse environments pretty egregiously, they just cover their tracks a little
better than DA2 did . . .


Agree to the utmost extreme multiplied by 3 ;) But people
refuse to see it. You have, on the one hand, a completely open ended world with Skyrim. On the other hand, you have the limited scenery and stringent path of DA2. There is a
middle ground. I'm hoping BW finds it. I will say this: I do love DA2.  People will discount this but the color palette of a game is extremely important and all games have one. GREEN! The human eye
recognizes more shades of green than any other color. I don't know who decided
to limit the palette to mostly grey, but they need to be punished. Blue and green are extremely important and it was ignored to a large extent. Even the Wounded Coast was mostly brown and grey with green dotted around. You do not get the feeling of freedom with a limited palette. I noticed in MoTA they had changed that drastically. Hire a psychologist BW!!! You won't regret it. :D

And, speaking of DA2, here's a question: what do you all think Fenris would
think about the Elder Scrolls world? Magic EVERYWHERE, pretty much anyone is
capable of at least minor cantrips if they want to learn; elves of lots of
types that live more or less equal with humans in most places, with varying
regional prejudices (and one of the worst culprits there are the Altmer, the
High Elves, whose leading faction considers all other races, even other elves,
to be little more than animals . . .), so on, so forth.


What an excellent question. Hmmmm... He’d join up with Ulfric ;) j/k  Fenris would make a great Ashlander. Okay, perhaps an Imperial since they are somewhat cosmopolitan, and for the most part adhere to rules. He leans towards the Aveline rules of conduct if you ask me and acceptance. That makes me sad that he looks for it in the most miniscule proportions, but he does. :( Hard to be Fenris. :(((

Okay I wrote really boring long stuff. Gah, that's what I get for being too answery ;)

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I played ME3, yes. Can´t say I had a problem with the lip synching. Perhaps because I focus a bit more on the subtitles, so slight errors in lip synching may escape me. But I´m also pretty forgiving on the subject. I´m playing Deus ex: Human Revolutions and the lip synching is pretty off sometimes. But it's still a great game and a great story, so I won't quit because of something so relatively unimportant (to me). I still think you should give the series a try, and start with ME1. When you're emerged in the story details like that might bother you a bit less. Although there is Garrus' low resolution face in ME1 :(.


I think with perverted reasons Gaider imagines teenage boys getting excited to see virtual boobies. And apparently he doesn't want that. xD He even said he would prefer it to get rid off the whole love scene, including the pillow talk. Bah! Let's hope the rest of the team sabotages that. Sexiness aside, I think the getting intimate is an important step in pretty much every relationship. You can't simply brush over it because some bare skin and bodily fluids happen to be involved. How the partners react after they have made love is very telling about the relationship. Fenris freaks out and runs off, Isabela treats it as something casual, Zevran inquires whether it was a one-time thing, Alistair declares he deeply loves the Warden, etc. It sets the tone for the rest of the relationship, for the hurdles that have yet to be overcome, or it illustrates the achievement of the ultimate high, the "completion" of the relationship.

If they skip it all in the next game I'm gonna... gonna.... throw something. xD

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I think I mentioned Skyrim a while ago. Don't remember which thread (or if it was this one), but I said that I invested about ten or fifteen hours in the game before I finally made it to Whiterun and informed the Jarl that there was a dragon on the loose :-p

I actually don't mind the lack of character depth. I feel that Dragon Age/Mass Effect and Elder Scrolls/Fallout have their strengths and they work for them. Bethasda focuses on open world travel and adventure by making their worlds huge and pretty (while making you shape the story you want), and Bioware focuses on you making your own character and branching pathways, but they sacrifice open world exploration to do that. Bethesda, in turn, sacrifices character depth. But they aren't terrible, it just depends on your preference. Do you want open world exploration, or do you want linear choice storytelling?

Oh, and I think Fenris disguised himself as a Templar while Lothering. I almost fell off my seat when I heard his voice.

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Zevran's old friend - Taliesen - VA-ed by the same actor. Yet, I can not really hear that. I wonder, where the voice was modified a bit. Or the actor is really amazing and can make sound 2 character completely different.

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I played ME3, yes. Can´t say I had a problem with the lip synching. Perhaps because I focus a bit more on the subtitles, so slight errors in lip synching may escape me. But I´m also pretty forgiving on the subject. I´m playing Deus ex: Human Revolutions and the lip synching is pretty off sometimes. But it's still a great game and a great story, so I won't quit because of something so relatively unimportant (to me). I still think you should give the series a try, and start with ME1. When you're emerged in the story details like that might bother you a bit less. Although there is Garrus' low resolution face in ME1 :(.


I think with perverted reasons Gaider imagines teenage boys getting excited to see virtual boobies. And apparently he doesn't want that. xD He even said he would prefer it to get rid off the whole love scene, including the pillow talk. Bah! Let's hope the rest of the team sabotages that. Sexiness aside, I think the getting intimate is an important step in pretty much every relationship. You can't simply brush over it because some bare skin and bodily fluids happen to be involved. How the partners react after they have made love is very telling about the relationship. Fenris freaks out and runs off, Isabela treats it as something casual, Zevran inquires whether it was a one-time thing, Alistair declares he deeply loves the Warden, etc. It sets the tone for the rest of the relationship, for the hurdles that have yet to be overcome, or it illustrates the achievement of the ultimate high, the "completion" of the relationship.

If they skip it all in the next game I'm gonna... gonna.... throw something. xD


The thing is I can readily forgive lip synching errors, but this... this was more to do the way the mouths formed vowels. It was extremely odd and for the life of me I don't understand why considering it is all part of BW and Dragon Age does not have that problem.

It wasn't just that. It was the slow gameplay and no matter what I did, my Shepard was always hard to look at. Mine looked dead. Also, I guess because I didn't have ME1 and ME2 to add to ME3 it felt like I was missing a huge chunk of gameplay. I've never known a game where you actually have to play the first and second for it to all make sense. I'll try DAO and go from there.

Why is it up to David Gaider? He's the writer not the developer. I have yet to understand why his word is holiest. I guess I never will. You are right, it really does set the tone for the whole relationship. Anders is cheesy ;) and remains highly strung through the rest of it. ;) Seriously, if they take that away there will be less going for the game. Many people love that aspect of it. It would be dumb to do away with it if your fans love it.

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ok, long rambling post coming - you've been warned

so many good Aldien questions, I had to go back and try to get to them all:

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 I'm still unsure how he runs with that thing. It almost touches the ground when strapped on his back. What happens if he falls backwards while it is strapped to him? 


Must be why he's always leaning forward and doing that little hop run, to make sure the sword tip stays off the ground. We were talking about his sword, right?
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What is it about Anders and Fenris and feathers? Actually, there are a ton of references to feathers in DA2. Who has the feather fetish going on?


Did you know there's a quest in MotA to get Anders a special feather? haha I'm not kidding.
"Use the feather!" by Kluna
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(She has some very silly and funny DA comics in her gallery)

aldien wrote...

Anyway, my question is: Would Danarius marry or procreate for the sole purpose of continuing his line or perhaps he already has?

The reason I wondered about this was because Fenris says in the gallows:
Magisters came from wealthy families, bloodlines that had nurtured magical talent for countless generations

Could Danarius have family after Fenris?
Also, if Danarius did not have children would his estate fall to Hadrianna?


It would make a lot of sense if Danarius would be having children (or trying to) simply to carry on his line but at the same time, I wonder - how do you think Danarius would react if he created a child more powerful than himself? He seems so egotistical, I wonder...
I would think the estate would go to Hadrianna, wasn't she his 'right hand'? Now that she is gone (I've never... not killed her.. I suppose she can live?) - anyways, if she was gone, I wonder who would be next in line?

How many apprentices can one magister take on at a time?

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I hope you give DA:O a try, it's a great game and has become my favorite RPG of all time (sorry Final Fantasy 7). I do like the pause attack in DA2 more, basically in DA:O you can pause the fight to select the character's action but as soon as you select, the game unpauses. Also not as much control (at least that I can figure out) over telling the characters where to stand/move in battle. However I love the characters, the epic story, the various locations and how characters in your party have their own preferences (and will up and leave the party if they really don't like you!). I don't want to give spoilers...

I love, love, love playing an elf but if I had to choose, the dwarf origins are my favorite. I've done the following and never had any issues with the height differences and yes, you can kiss your LI
elf mage female - Alistair
dalish elf rogue male - Morrigan
dwarf commoner female rogue - Zevran
dwarf noble male warrior - Liliana
human noble female rogue - Alistair
currently on city elf rogue female - Zev & Ali

Play it vanilla if you want first but remember there are so many amazing mods for DA:O - mods that add romance scenes, mods that add characters and plot lines, it's amazing and makes me want to get the game for the PC.

I've always loved RPGs, fond memories of playing Zork with my dad and drawing maps on grid paper. good times. Also love action games and platformers (not that I'm any good, but I still like them). Was a big fan of the Sierra games like Kings Quest, there were some other games but I cannot remember what they were called - a generic RPG where you pick race and class and can play with a friend on the PC; there was another one that was first person and you travel in dungeons picking up stuff and fighting, but it was basically square walls and no real graphics.

Anyways.. then came the consoles and mario bros. whee. Finally got back into RPGs with JRPG Final Fantasy 7 and Final Fantasy Tactics. I swear I'd play before work, then come home and play until bed - then repeat. I was obsessed.

I love Dragon Ages and the depth of character interaction and 'choices'. I enjoy it a lot more than other ones I've played recently like Fallout (3 & NV), Oblivion, I have the Fable games but haven't tried them besides #1 (Lost Chapters). I would like to recommend a game - if anyone is also a fan of JRPGs, then I highly recommend Lost Odyssey. Linear story as most JRPGs but great characters, storyline and environments. It's the only game besides DA:O and the ME games that has actually made me weep.
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The next games I play to buy are Witcher 2 and the new Aliens: Colonial Marines
EDIT TO ADD - oh and the next installment of TellTale's Walking Dead episodical RPG - if you are on xbox or PSN, it's well worth it! Awesome dialogue based game IMO.

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on the note about Maturity and love scenes, I really do want more. Ok, so I don't need full on pixel porn (although I am not against it!) - we do need some actual mature romantic scenes. There can be intesnse passion and groping without the need to remove the clothes if the naked-ness is what BioWare/EA wants to avoid. There are some really hot and steamy scenes in R rated movies that I would love to see happen between PC and LI. If the game says Mature and one of the reasons is sexual content, I wanna see some sexual content gosh darnit. I don't care if that makes me a perv.
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on the topic of being a perv, I can't be the only one that used to enjoy playing Leisure Suit Larry am I?

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aldien wrote...

The thing is I can readily forgive lip synching errors, but this... this was more to do the way the mouths formed vowels. It was extremely odd and for the life of me I don't understand why considering it is all part of BW and Dragon Age does not have that problem.

It wasn't just that. It was the slow gameplay and no matter what I did, my Shepard was always hard to look at. Mine looked dead. Also, I guess because I didn't have ME1 and ME2 to add to ME3 it felt like I was missing a huge chunk of gameplay. I've never known a game where you actually have to play the first and second for it to all make sense. I'll try DAO and go from there.


I think it's because Mass Effect is really set up with a trilogy, with the same main character in the three games. The setup of DA is different. 

Why is it up to David Gaider? He's the writer not the developer. I have yet to understand why his word is holiest. I guess I never will. You are right, it really does set the tone for the whole relationship. Anders is cheesy ;) and remains highly strung through the rest of it. ;) Seriously, if they take that away there will be less going for the game. Many people love that aspect of it. It would be dumb to do away with it if your fans love it.


Well, he is the lead writer of the team, and he writes at least one romance (I think he has written two in DAO). So he is probably the one who has to write the pillow talk of "his" character.:pinched: I couldn't care less about his personal preferences, I just hope his opinion won't lead to the exclusion of love scenes. That's all I meant.



@ April: no matter what you do, Fenris will crush Hadriana's heart.:devil: There is no way she can live (well, except for not doing Fenris' quest, that is). 

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AbsoluteApril wrote...

on the note about Maturity and love scenes, I really do want more. Ok, so I don't need full on pixel porn (although I am not against it!) - we do need some actual mature romantic scenes. There can be intesnse passion and groping without the need to remove the clothes if the naked-ness is what BioWare/EA wants to avoid. There are some really hot and steamy scenes in R rated movies that I would love to see happen between PC and LI. If the game says Mature and one of the reasons is sexual content, I wanna see some sexual content gosh darnit. I don't care if that makes me a perv.
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I second this!  If the game is rated M, you'd think it would be rated M for a reason!  You'd think they could also go for a more artistic love scene too.  Like, the people in the scene can be naked yet tastefully censored without having that default panties on...  They did a good job at it with the Liara love scene in ME3

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To be completely honest, I don't really want steamy sex scenes. I would prefer how they did it in Mass Effect, using clever camera angles to imply and stuff like that. Sometimes, the little they show shows a lot more.

If you can see what I'm getting at. This is why you should never get me to explain stuff, I suck at it.