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[Amirit]

That is why I did read spoilers before last fight - I do not like tragic endings and feel sick if have to read\\see one. Fortunately, both saving options were transparent enough even without spoilers.

As for DA2 - do not think just fat could change his face so much. And to get your _face_ so fat, you have to get a very serious body weight first.

Sylvanpyxie wrote...
Also: Looking again at DA2 Alistair, i can't help but feel that everyone in Dragon Age 2 is made out of Play-Dough... Really, the whole never-ending puffy cheeks/jaw thing is horrible. Makes it impossible to create a Hawke with strong, sharp, features.

 

I know! Countless houres of morfing attempts and I gave up and used more or less "normal" default look.

Modifié par Amirit, 20 août 2012 - 08:59 .

[Sylvanpyxie]

is that dependent on him being hardned or not?

If i'm remembering right, it doesn't matter if he's hardened or not. There's an option to stop him doing it and take the killing blow yourself.

I do not like tragic endings and feel sick if have to read\\see one.

I personally think they're the best endings.. Anything in a game that's capable of causing me distress is incredible. Mask of the Betrayer did it a lot and that's still my favourite game in existence.

Also, Dragon Age 2 Alistair is definitely made out of play-dough. *Nods*

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 20 août 2012 - 09:01 .

[aldien]

Thank you for the hugs I never cry! It makes my face crack

April, they aren't changing the look of the elves according to what one of the devs said. They are sticking with the gazelle look, but I love Fenris's look so it's fine by me.

April said: Can Hawke harden Fenris?

ROFL! You are secretly perverted... I see this now Well he appeared to be quite hardened during his anniversary. I know if I was a man I would have been hardened by 'the look' he gives Hawke. Everyone knows 'the look' without explanation I hope. Right? No? Just my weirdness?

Sorry, the Fenris side-track is my fault from days ago. But we tend to discuss whatever on here these days mixed with Fenris. It makes it easier to get to know everyone I think. Well I enjoy hearing bits and pieces about everyone. It gives me something I can use to make fun of them later

Sylvanpyxie said: Am i the only one that sees vague similarities between Fenris and Valen Shadowbreath? Maybe i only see it because they're both somewhat broody and tormented. They're not *that* similar, not really, but when talking to Fenris there's some things that just makes my brain scream "VALEN!".

Alistair's nose looks like Fenris's nose. Actually, I think it isn't far off from the new elf nose they used at least the front shape of it. Alistair isn't that much older you know. Not from what I understand. He's in his.... what? Late twenties. Maybe it's the stinky cheeses I;d rather see him fat than dead.

okay.... *raises Fenris quizzical eyebrow* Who is this Mr. Shadowbreath you speak of?

[Sylvanpyxie]

okay.... *raises Fenris quizzical eyebrow* Who is this Mr. Shadowbreath you speak of?

Oh my god..

Valen Shadowbreath is a character so brilliant he managed to turn my manliest man friend gay for a few hours. He's a Tiefling from Hordes of the Underdark, it's an expansion pack for Neverwinter Nights, the first one.

He has trust issues, and you happen to appear at a crucial moment during a war, a war that he's happens to be the General in. You replace him, he gets broody, angry. It kind of goes from there. He's oddly bashful, occasionally hilarious and utterly brilliant just.. Full stop.

Neverwinter Nights was a bad game, in my opinion, but Hordes of the Underdark more than made up for it. It's just a shame that Hordes was an expansion pack, NwN was so bad/underrated that very few people ended up playing Hordes and characters like Deekin and Valen got totally overlooked.

Fenris has a few things in common, personality wise, with Valen though. I'm almost certain of it.

Valen also progresses and grows as a person when you're with him. He also offers in a lot of insight to Forgotten Realms demonic lore, which is the world NwN is based in. There's so much.. Just, evolution to him and his relationship with the protagonist... Crikey.

Valen was my first, heck maybe even my *only*, Fan-girl crush.

I still replay Hordes of the Underdark regularly just because of the characters in it.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 20 août 2012 - 09:26 .

[aldien]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

okay.... *raises Fenris quizzical eyebrow* Who is this Mr. Shadowbreath you speak of?

Oh my god..

Valen Shadowbreath is a character so brilliant he managed to turn my manliest man friend gay for a few hours. He's a Tiefling from Hordes of the Underdark, it's an expansion pack for Neverwinter Nights, the first one.

He has trust issues, and you happen to appear at a crucial moment during a war, a war that he's happens to be the General in. You replace him, he gets broody, angry. It kind of goes from there. He's oddly bashful, occasionally hilarious and utterly brilliant just.. Full stop.

Neverwinter Nights was a bad game, in my opinion, but Hordes of the Underdark more than made up for it. It's just a shame that Hordes was an expansion pack, because NwN was so bad very few people ended up playing it and characters like Deekin and Valen got totally overlooked.

Fenris has a few things in common, personality wise, with Valen though. I'm almost certain of it.

Valen also progresses and grows as a person when you're with him. He also offers in a lot of insight to Forgotten Realms demonic lore, which is the world NwN is based in. There's so much.. Just, evolution to him and his relationship with the protagonist... Crikey.

I still replay Hordes of the Underdark regularly just because of the characters in it.

Sorry, I was an FPS person first except for Bethesda and later Rockstar. BW rpg's are a new realm for me.

He does sound like Fenris. I assume same writers? I'm starting to see this pattern of personalities within the games that are elborated on in the next but a different person. I don't have problem with it, but I can see how similar characterizations happen.

Ren! You really don't run like Hawke? I thought every woman tried to dislocate a hip when they walked. It is ridiculous but it's kind of hypnotizing... like a pendulum.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I know the lure of FPS games well... Mhm. Mostly Enemy Territory.

I assume same writers?

Both Gaider, though i personally believe Valen easily trumps Fenris in every respect.

NwN is a pretty old game now. Must be nearly 10 years old (wow, now i feel old). If you happen to find it cheap anywhere i'd highly recommend getting it with the expansions. Even if the Original Campaign is a bit shoddy, it's still great fun and Hordes is definitely worth a play.

[Dutchess]

AbsoluteApril wrote...

Can Hawke harden Fenris?

haha sorry just trying to stay on topic

I... interpreted that the worst possible way. And in that case the answer would be: yes, Hawke can certainly "harden" Fenris.

Okay, perv corner for me.

Also, this made me laugh: how Fenris' hair turned white.


by Zinoodle

[aldien]

Oooooooh it has gone quiet. I found this and thought I'd share even though it is completely un Fenrisy... I'll go find something Fenrisy next. It did make me laugh.

by Alsiony



HOWEVER!!!!!!! To be fair to the modeler...

If you put Alistair's DA2 head on Anders and walk him out in the sunlight this is actually what the model looks like and did look like in the Viscount's Keep, tavern, warden but the lighting made it impossible to tell:



Hmmmmm think Anders will be getting a new head;)

Modifié par aldien, 21 août 2012 - 01:19 .

[aldien]

Ren I dub thee queen of the perv corner.

And I just squeeed (I didn't really. Too grumpy to squee.)

by savagesparrow




This one made me giggle



pic spam over.

Modifié par aldien, 21 août 2012 - 01:05 .

[Amirit]

Great pics, Aldien (LOL to all of them)

If you are ready to the next DAO run - have to worn you about one problem with DN: camera is set at dwarf's level. Means, in cutscens anyone significantly taller might not fit to the screen (not when you talk to companions, thanks god). I almost all other aspects - try it!

[Dutchess]

Amirit wrote...

Great pics, Aldien (LOL to all of them)

If you are ready to the next DAO run - have to worn you about one problem with DN: camera is set at dwarf's level. Means, in cutscens anyone significantly taller might not fit to the screen (not when you talk to companions, thanks god). I almost all other aspects - try it!

Hmm, I don't remember having had that problem. Though the height difference with pretty much everyone you talk to (Sten!) is funny.

[Amirit]

It happens when you talk to some NPC and companions join. If you talk directly to companions - everything is fine.

[Dwarva]

This isn't Fenris related but you guys are such geniuses I thought I'd ask here...

If I import a DAO playthrough into DA2 where I didn't play Awakenings, does Anders still recognise Nathaniel? Either way you still get the quest right? You don't need an Awakenings import?

[AbsoluteApril]

(99.9% sure) You can only get the finding Nathaniel quest with an Awaekenings import. I only do awakenings imports on about 1/2 my PTs since the import flags get even more messed up and on those DA:O (no awakening, no witch hunt or golemns DLC done) to DA2 imports, I do not see Nathaniel.

aldien wrote...
If you put Alistair's DA2 head on Anders and walk him out in the sunlight this is actually what the model looks like and did look like in the Viscount's Keep, tavern, warden but the lighting made it impossible to tell:

wow! that looks so much better (even with the hair being a bit off, maker that's a big forehead hehe)! It's hard to believe the lighting would make such a difference... but going from CC to game, it really does (curse you ugly wardens and hawkes).

Modifié par AbsoluteApril, 21 août 2012 - 07:04 .

[Dwarva]

AbsoluteApril wrote...

(99.9% sure) You can only get the finding Nathaniel quest with an Awaekenings import. I only do awakenings imports on about 1/2 my PTs since the import flags get even more messed up and on those DA:O (no awakening, no witch hunt or golemns DLC done) to DA2 imports, I do not see Nathaniel.

I'll have to have a real think then...not sure I can be bothered with a DAA playthrough at the moment.

This quest can only be acquired if the pre-built "The Martyr" or "No Compromise" backgrounds were chosen or if a Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening import is used in which Nathaniel survives.

Bugger. The wiki agrees.

Modifié par Staarbux, 21 août 2012 - 07:21 .

[aldien]

Avejajed wrote...

Some of you have seen. Thought I'd share with those of you who enjoy kinky fanfic.

Warning: Very nsfw, very explicit.
http://megkmeme.word...11/04/22/tease/

We could always do with a bit more kinky around here. April is especially perverted. She made me blush with her harden Fenris comment. I still haven't quite recovered yet. Oh my delicate ears! 

I'm playing city elf right now Amirit. It's got a great beginnign story. I love it! My little rogue is fiesty and whereas my elf mage was somewhat diplomatic and kind, this elf throws Alistair's humor right back at him. He seems to like it which kind of surprised me. Oh... except that one time but i think he was trying to be endearing. You know, a city elf would have been a great LI for Fenris. He needed someone to challenge his perception and put him in his place


 

Faerunner wrote...

aldien wrote...

Sorry, I was an FPS person first except for Bethesda and later Rockstar. BW rpg's are a new realm for me.

He
does sound like Fenris. I assume same writers? I'm starting to see this
pattern of personalities within the games that are elborated on in the
next but a different person. I don't have problem with it, but I can see
how similar characterizations happen.

Most
likely. I know David Gaider has been around since BG2, which I think
came out right before NwN1. Since Gaider wrote Fenris, I imagine he had a
hand in Valen Shadowbreath and many other characters from past games.

To be honest, I've noticed a lot
of similar Dragon Age characters from the Neverwinter Nights franchise,
especially the companions. Merrill reminds me so much of Lenu La'neral
(a very sweet, naive, clumsy, accident-probe, good-natured, young
spell-casting elven woman), Sten reminds me of Daelan Red Tiger (a tall,
muscular, exotic, proud "warrior race" guy who wields a two-handed
weapon and who looks like he ought to be a savage--an orc and a kossith,
essentially--but who's actually very cultured, well-spoken, has a
strong sense of honour and will only join the hero after he's convinced
it's for a noble cause), Leliana reminds me of Sharwyn (a red-headed
human bard who led a colourful life even before meeting the hero),
Sigrun reminds me of Dorna Trapspringer from SotU (a snarky,
good-hearted female dwarf rogue) and so on and so forth.

Though
I've never been able to finish Shadows of the Undertide, which I need to
play Hordes of the Underdark, so I haven't been able to see Valen
Shadowbreath firsthand. He's a huge fan-favourite though, just like
Fenris; he's left an impression on just about everyone who's played, and
has a fair share of fangirls besides. He's built like Alistair
(muscle-wise), and if he also has a similar personality as Fenris, I can
see why he's so popular among the ladies.

Well hey, he sounds like the perfect combo. But alas I have no urge to play NwN. I might see if I can find some youtube footage of this Alistair/Fenris mixture. Fenister

[AbsoluteApril]

aldien wrote...
We could always do with a bit more kinky around here. April is especially perverted. She made me blush with her harden Fenris comment. I still haven't quite recovered yet. Oh my delicate ears! 

who.. me??  

if only I knew how to write, I'd be making smutty fanfic. Alas, I can only read and enjoy what others have wrote and play in my imagination, dancing barefoot in the waves with shirtless Fenris in the sun - all a'glisten. who was a'glistening? both of us!

(like I said, I can't write)

edit to add - an online pal of mine (from another shared hobby) is also a gamer, he keeps telling me to get Balders Gate. Any of you played this? It's PC only I think? ME1 then DAO were the first BioWare games I had played.

Modifié par AbsoluteApril, 21 août 2012 - 11:29 .

[SurrealSadi]

AbsoluteApril wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Oh god, FF13? I returned that to GameStop. I got to one point where all you can really do is GRIND, and my brain and love of FF games died. I adore the FF series, but I don't want to spend 40 hours GRINDING away just to be able to beat the flarking game. And that's apparently what you HAVE to do.

yeah, I'm not enjoying it all that much. Last FF game I played was FF7 (and tactics) which I loved, loved so much. This.. eh. I can't believe they took out turn based fighting, isn't that one of the major things that makes a JRPG? Plus all the fights have been so easy but then Odin I had to reload about 6-7 times, just seems very unbalanced.

I never understood the 'annoyance' or anger about FemShep or FemHawke's walking/swaying, it never bothered me, HOWEVER, after seeing Vanille prancing around, I get it! I get it now! It's driving me crazy. The only character that I could see frollic as such would be Merrill in the Viscount's garden.
ok rant over

Yuna's gait in FF10-2 wsa bad, but Vanille... God...   The hardest fight I ran into in 13 before I turned it in was Barthandanelus, the first time you fight him. I tried 8 times(I have NEVER had that much trouble with an "early" game boss in an FF EVER). Jesus Mary and Joseph, I had to restart the whole damned GAME because I didn't max out my Crystarium before going into that fight. Which, if you don't do, you can't beat him. I hit the start of Chapter 11(when you make it to Gran Pulse), which is the start of the Grindfest. oh my god, I hate Grinding. I'd rather have my teeth drilled with no drugs than grind.

Enough of that... Anyone hear that they did away with the silly sock things that Elves were wearing?

[AbsoluteApril]

I'm glad for the warning, see how much of FF I can take, I don't mind a grind (over 100hrs in Lost Ody, only DLC boss and main boss left).. but it can get old fast, especially with this cruddy fight system that doesn't allow for much tactical planning and is so reaction based.

sock things? what sock things? I must know!


Another topic - have been trying to get Aveline's fade betrayal but no luck, finally went to look it up on youtube - there was a montage of all the betrayals, when the Pride demon gives the offer to Fenris in the fade, he replies:

"but... to face them as an equal. I...
what... would you want from me?"

it got me thinking... it sounds like Fenris would want to be a mage?

His first response is that he freed himself from the magisters a long time ago, but then replies he'd want to face them. Do you think he has plans to take revenge beyond Danarius? Against Tevinter? Also, is his desire to become a mage an emotional response to that urge for revenge or is he wanting it regardless? for the power?

Pretty sure this was discussed before but I don't remember and apparently I'm on a posting spree here - would Fenris give up the markings if he could safely do so and there was no need for them? I say no.

*edit to add-  my brain went on a squee fest thinking of Fenris in mage robes.. I don't know, it seems like it would be so... cute! Fenris being pouty swollowed up in these big comfy robes, all plush and feathery..

Modifié par AbsoluteApril, 22 août 2012 - 04:49 .

[Dutchess]

I don't think he necessarily wants to be a mage... just have enough power - in whatever form - to no longer have to be afraid of Danarius. He doesn't really desire to become a mage, he desires being able to face Danarius and Hadriana. Also, keep in mind that this occurs in the Fade. Merrill indicates that the demon was in her head. I assume something similar happened to Fenris, so he isn't completely himself in that conversation. The demon messes with his mind, shows him how he can kill Danarius with power it promises... so I would say an emotional response, although I sitll don't think the promise for power is literally the promise for magical ability. The demon could also promise to increase the possibilities of Fenris' markings... making him completely immune to spells for example.

And I don't see him plotting revenge beyond Hadriana and Danarius. He says so himself in act 3 in his Questioning Beliefs. He is suddenly lost, has no goal anymore, "not even an enemy". Danarius was his enemy. He desperately wanted Danarius dead. But he is not going to wage a war against the other magisters. His personal quest is over. I assume he prefers to never set foot in Tevinter again.

I asked that question a long time ago here. My own idea is that during the game Fenris would be hesitant when Hawke or Anders offered him the chance to rid him of the markings. They are the edge he has in battle. It is thanks to his markings that he has remained free as long as he did. So while Danarius is still around, hunting him... he will not give up any advantage he has. He'll probably find it difficult to outright admit this.. because he also hates the lyrium in his body. So it's very conflicting for him.
But when Danarius and Hadriana are dead... yes, I think he would want them gone. He has no true need for them anymore. He is now free. He doesn't truly need that "edge" in battle anymore. So post-game, I'd say he would allow the markings to be removed, it that was possibble. When Isabela asks him: "don't you wish you did not have lyrium stuck under your skin?"
Fenris replies: "I do." That says to me that Fenris is still very much unhappy with the markings, and he would not mind to have them gone.


About Aveline's betrayal in the Fade: I've had it happen. The only requirement is that you take her into the Fade without Isabela in your party. Then the desire demon should tempt Aveline with her dead husband, Wesley.

[berelinde]

It's also possible that Fenris is reacting to his own uncertainty about his life before he received his markings. He doesn't know what talents were taken from him, and he has seen magisters neutralize lesser mages before. A Bitter Pill can happen before Night Terrors, so Fenris may have already confronted and defeated Hadriana, at that point. I usually do A Bitter Pill first thing in Act 2, before Blackpowder Courtesy, because I usually do the Fenris--->Anders arc and it helps avoid complications. I'm not saying that Fenris wishes he were a mage! But if the doubt existed in his mind, it would gall him.

[Dutchess]

berelinde wrote...

It's also possible that Fenris is reacting to his own uncertainty about his life before he received his markings. He doesn't know what talents were taken from him, and he has seen magisters neutralize lesser mages before. A Bitter Pill can happen before Night Terrors, so Fenris may have already confronted and defeated Hadriana, at that point. I usually do A Bitter Pill first thing in Act 2, before Blackpowder Courtesy, because I usually do the Fenris--->Anders arc and it helps avoid complications. I'm not saying that Fenris wishes he were a mage! But if the doubt existed in his mind, it would gall him.

Bitte Pill only triggers after completing Black Powder Courtesy as far as I know?