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[aldien]

AbsoluteApril wrote...

I was probably going to get the physical copy but am not opposed to getting steam.. heck, I got origin now so maybe I should just go for it. *ponders* (always like getting game suggestions)
Thank you so much for those shots Aldien!! those arm shots are perfect, and the tootsies! so cute. You're my hero *high five*

You have to have Steam in order to play HL2 even with a physical copy. I have opinions on that particular topic but... it would be best if I kept my mouth shut. I value not being prodded back. There is Half-Life complete and just plain standard HL2. I won;t even mention EA and Steam's loving relationship It's akin to Anders and Fenris. Okay... Ill shushies now.

Modifié par aldien, 28 septembre 2012 - 05:20 .

[aldien]

You've never had Shale in your party, Fae???? You'll love that. It will definitely make you next PT enjoyable with all the added content.

Fae said:You're still in the somewhat beginning of the first act, right? You've got the entire game to ****** him off and earn those rivalry points back.

ROFL.... such a potty mouth and so unlike you....still giggling

Did you see Trista's morning hair? You gotta see that picture.

Modifié par aldien, 28 septembre 2012 - 05:36 .

[Amirit]

Faerunner, there is one more cheat... It's called gff4-editor. After you install all mods you wanted, you can replace the character you have in any saved game with the character you just created. And re-play only favorite scenes. How does it sounds?

[Amirit]

I meant only look (and items, if you wish). Actually, you can replace everything and anything, but you said it will be exactly the same run, so I thought more about the look.

The idea of replacing is the same though for look, items or events: you open 2 files in that editor - old saving and new. Then you take part of new saving you want to use, copy-paste in the old one, save, run the game - and voila, new look in the old scene!

[Sealy]

Aldien: I wasn't referring to what we were told, I was saying that the writers said that the codex was written as something the characters knew about themselves... if Ali was told he had a scullery maid mother then thats what he tells the Warden/Invisible scribe and that's what goes in the codex. Of course it sort of sound like a cop out way to make the lores match but alak! and alas! what can yah do.

Plus, with the rumour of Cole being in DA 3 the two worlds of book and game sound like they are heading for a merger. I don't think they will be letting all the book canon have it's way though and I don't think the comics are attached much at all siince in DA2 we can run into our Exiled/Warden/King Alistair. Why carry it into two games and abandon it in the third. Part of what made DA:O so great was the variety of ways you could play so since I imagine the more popular a game is the more it eats away at a fund I don't mind if certain things are hand waved. Just not the important bits... like character deaths *cough*Leliana,Anders*cough*

I can sympathize with the perfectionists and kinda wish someone would give me lessons on how to make freaking saves more often cause I'll never learn, I screw up one convo or bring someone with me on the wrong trip and I can't just let it go and carry on... has to be done over. Makes gaming a little tedious at times.

Modifié par Fleshdress, 29 septembre 2012 - 01:04 .

[aldien]

Fleshdress wrote...

Aldien: I wasn't referring to what we were told, I was saying that the writers said that the codex was written as something the characters knew about themselves... if Ali was told he had a scullery maid mother then thats what he tells the Warden/Invisible scribe and that's what goes in the codex. Of course it sort of sound like a cop out way to make the lores match but alak! and alas! what can yah do.

Plus, with the rumour of Cole being in DA 3 the two worlds of book and game sound like they are heading for a merger. I don't think they will be letting all the book canon have it's way though and I don't think the comics are attached much at all siince in DA2 we can run into our Exiled/Warden/King Alistair. Why carry it into two games and abandon it in the third. Part of what made DA:O so great was the variety of ways you could play so since I imagine the more popular a game is the more it eats away at a fund I don't mind if certain things are hand waved. Just not the important bits... like character deaths *cough*Leliana,Anders*cough*

I can sympathize with the perfectionists and kinda wish someone would give me lessons on how to make freaking saves more often cause I'll never learn, I screw up one convo or bring someone with me on the wrong trip and I can't just let it go and carry on... has to be done over. Makes gaming a little tedious at times.

Hey, I hear you. I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood. It's a bit of both... I think.

If I understand it correctly, we are looking at the character's knowledge with what we are presented in the game...  the codex? He/she (example Alistair) knows as much as the warden learns as they lead their lives within this virtual bubble? Is that where you are coming from? Maker... does this make sense? It's so hard to convey. I'm really trying to understand. BTW...this is a great topic to explore

Fleshdress said: Plus, with the rumour of Cole being in DA 3 the two worlds of book and
game sound like they are heading for a merger. I don't think they will
be letting all the book canon have it's way though and I don't think the
comics are attached much at all siince in DA2 we can run into our
Exiled/Warden/King Alistair.

Does the meeting of game and book bother you? Do you think you can reconcile them? If you are into the books you must have a mental image of the character. Now... the developers and their subordinates are going to portray that character within the game. What if it contrasts greatly in aesthetics or personality to what you have built up mentally? How will you deal with that?

Moving forward again to Cole and other characters....

This is where ego and game meets for me. *sighs* I'm not trying to be a female dog. This is a tightrope.... and sometimes I go between mistake and ingenuity here when it comes to the writer/writers. You have the gamers and the lore lovers and something inbetween. Some people are adverse to canon and others want it more than anything, and then there are those who are just confused if you make too many changes between games If you don't give them Taffeta and roses the world be damned! But seriously, this particular game, which is unique, can confuse people easily. You have a story to tell, and it is a good one, but if you go too far in either direction it can fail. It can ****** people off because they get attached to the characters and love their chosen endings. So how do you reconcile that?

Now... I did a bit of a minor investigation today and saw a post by Gaider that basically stated, that after the game story has been told the characters default back to them, BW, and basically they do what they want. That's fair in one way but crappy in another. If that pertained to just the books, I could understand, but within the game??? Oh c'mon... that's having your cake and eating it too. I can go find that post if you are interested. That was my fear and I found it today and it irked me :/

Fleshdress said: . I don't think the comics are attached much at all siince in DA2 we can run into our Exiled/Warden/King Alistair. Why carry it into two games and abandon it in the third

I say ambiguity serves the game well when delivered in an equal dose. It's tricky but it might be the happy medium between book and game and popular characters.

What do you think?

Fleshdress said: Part of what made DA:O so great was the variety of ways you could play
so since I imagine the more popular a game is the more it eats away at a
fund I don't mind if certain things are hand waved.

I agree. Choice makes people happy especially when it means they can manipulate others... in this case polygons

Money and popularity.....

Oh! Yes and no. Hypothetically speaking, I'd say It depends on many factors, mostly concerning agenda and ummmm those in power There are cash-ins and riding on past successes and a sequel because people need a paycheck and... occasionally there are those who have the luxury of maintaining reputation. But... that's very risky and usually based on past success and luck. Right place, right time, genius idea and the ability to make it happen; a rarity. Maybe just security through power. Hmmmm that's just not a straight answer. I tried!

What I wish for DA is a great story. It may not be the story I want in my head but after a couple of PT's, if it really hits home, stirs those feelings like some of the storylines in DA:O and DA2, then I think it will have mass appeal. That is what I hope, because it's like DA world peace If only! In your post, I got a hint of settling for less if there is a good story. I'm willing to do that too as long as the attempt has been made and the writers are not too egotistical, otherwise it can all go the Void. (ah the joy of imaginairy references

To be fair, I think it's hard for the writers because they have to write for the game and then DG continues the stories outside of the game for those who just can't get enough of the lore. I appreaciate that, but it also conflicts with personal preference and that is hard to swallow. Some people love both, while others want to control the story within the game. It's all good but also very complicated because of very passionate views. Sometimes the two clash, but I'm starting to realize we all want the same: we want a good story.

Modifié par aldien, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:38 .

[Sealy]

Yah, you got it lol, I wish I could find the comment... well I probably could but I am too lazy to look. But yah the codex may not have all the right information, it only has information that the Warden himself has amassed.

I actually quite agree that it will pretty much suck if our playthroughs don't look like ours. I for one have spent a crap load of time playing just to change certain things and it will be like a poke to the ribs every time something is not the way I left it. I really hope they don't do that... with the major stuff. Our big decisions DA:O; "Werewolves vs Elves, Behlen vs Harrowmont, Templars vs Mages, ect... Anything that had a quest line really, and DA 2: Uhhhh... Mages vs Templars? Those should be recognized. Also, what we did with Alistair, what we made our Warden, and who was romanced is necessary to make it my game still. I will be in quite the snit if it isn't like that.

Actually, so far in the books (Haven't read and don't consider it canon in regards to the comics since so many bits of that is game lore combatant) I don't remember it mentioning anything about DA:O stuff, other then Shale having been recruited and Wynne having been a companion of the Warden... little confusing for anyone who didn't get Shale or killed Wynne in the Circle/Sacred Ashes mission. The only big plot point they seem to be working with is Anders blow out sale at the chantry, and even thats left fairly vague.

Oh no, The meeting of the two makes me very happy, lol. When I read I don't really get a visual of a character in my head, and if Cole is in DA3 I imagine David Gaider will write him again since Cole is his creation, or at least oversee/choose a writer who he thinks sticks as close to "in character" as possible. As long as the voice is strong I will be pleased as punch. I really don't mind revamping a characters looks even from one game to another (despite what they did to poor Zev and Ali's face) As long as a duck still walks like and talks like a duck, even if they now look like a griffon I'll still say "Ah there is my lovely Zev!duck" (Did you keep up with that? I think I lost myself somewhere ad-midst that. I would make it better but once again... too lazy )

Hmm, I was actually reconsidering my statement in regards to funds and popularity, I suppose with popularity also comes a larger fund to gnaw on anyways... eh, still ME3, for all it's faults still had an engaging story, fulfilling character interactions -disregarding some abused secondary characters that got pushed to the side in favor of newbie characters-, and it gave me (for I can only speak for myself) a sense of closure. In my opinion the Dragon Age writing team is even better then the Mass Effect team (jmho) and even though I loved/love DA2 it kinda did feel like a cash in while the fans are still there game. DA3 with the backlash Bioware has been getting lately will get some proper attention I think/hope.

So in the end we want the same thing... just a game to really, really love. I have high hopes. I'll stick to my guns that the books shouldn't clash with the game lore outside of character deaths not really carrying, and since the game lore is already clashing with character death game lore I don't think anyone will mind too terribly, and as happy as I would be for Alistair to be Fionas, I would be equally tickled with meeting Bastard to the throne #2, may he be mage-y and Marric-y.

Uh, on topic... Fenris is the hottest cluster of pixels since Zevran.<3

Modifié par Fleshdress, 29 septembre 2012 - 07:35 .

[Amirit]

To be honest I did not like that comment in "5 things I want in DA3". They agreed with obvious. Like really, can you imagine DA game without Sandal? Then they add Sandal and can safely say "we did what you wanted from us". While that was planned from the beginning regardless of requests and was just a necessary flavor, not the feature gamers really desired.

Sad things aside, I have a request to our artists (and who is not an artist here)? I do play elves sometime (got even complete playthrough one) but it's a bit of a pain: I need an CE elf that looks ... waggish? Not sure about the word - playful, a bit mischief-y, obviously roguish - good rogue style with a smile, you know. I can make a dwarf like this, but all my elves are horribly serious or sad. I mean a female elf (with males elf it's possible more or less). 

Any help?

Best I could come up with and it's not what I want

Modifié par Amirit, 29 septembre 2012 - 12:07 .

[Dutchess]

MrFlipFlops wrote...

ren, time-zone high-five =__= I'm in UTC+8.
And screens in ME... Get YAFSScreen, I use it for all the things. It's very easy and works great.
Seriously, I screened a run through the entire trilogy with one character. It was awesome.

I'm on a blitz of short insubstantial posts lately... Should find a pic to post next time or something.

I downloaded the program but it doesn't seem to be working. I have pressed prt sc several times now in ME, but the program does not take a screenshot.<_<

[Enkidu]

ren, really? It worked fine with my game. It's not taking any shots at all, the screen stays black? Can it take pictures of the desktop or does it not work at all?

[Dutchess]

MrFlipFlops wrote...

ren, really? It worked fine with my game. It's not taking any shots at all, the screen stays black? Can it take pictures of the desktop or does it not work at all?

All it does is making screenshots of my desktop, while I press prt sc in game.

[Dutchess]

 Alright, a screenshot of a screenshot (screenception). Only way to get it in a normal file. And nog ME2 or 3 yet. I guess I'll try to download fraps or something like that.
Very off topic and not Dragon Age related. Sorry.
Richard Shepard. Earthborn. Ruthless. Renegade.




And this is Jason Shepard. Colonist. War Hero. Paragon (BORING!) Playing him made me miss Richard so much that I'm currently doing another play through with Richard.



To get back to a Fenris discussion: I have another markings-related question (yes, yes, I know:innocent:). What kind of effect would the tranquility process have on Fenris? We know it severs the connection to the Fade for mages, making them tranquil. But what happens with an ordinary human or elf (since dwarves are already cut off from the Fade, I assume nothing happens to them)? Do they lose the ability to dream? And, more importantly, would Fenris' markings stop working? 

Modifié par renjility, 29 septembre 2012 - 05:37 .

[aldien]

Dwarves aren't cut off from the Fade. They just don't dream like humans/elves. If they were cut off from the Fade they wouldn't be able to enter it at all and they can become possessed, though it is rare. I reaserached this a while back and there was this old discussion between Gaider and the forum where they were asking about dwarves and magic. I needed it for my story so Hawke could possess Varric

I think Fenris's markings would cease to be able to make his hand phase into a body. but of course the lyrium would still be in his body and I guess it would give whatever abilities that do not depend on the Fade. Perhaps he would still be able to use lyrium pulse if that is simply energy drawn from lyrium.

I like Jason Love the stubble.

Ren, does it really matter these days if we go off topic a bit more than we used to? If it does *sheepish* I failed! It has been going on for a while now.

Modifié par aldien, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:10 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

I hate papers, yes I do, but I made it to the half point, scooby doo~

Also a little something off the gideon facebook by the lovely Adrianna aka Morie 91....gotta buy these games

[Enkidu]

ren, well, shoot. I really don't know what the problem might be. Sorry that I can't be of any help. Good luck with fraps, that should definitely work.

I like the shots with Richards XDD Kaidan's eyes behind him especially.
HEY. I have a colonist war hero paragon named Jason! Though he isn't boring. At least, I hope not, the collective time spent on writing him adds up to almost half a year. Also, Jason is a cutie. Yours, that is.

Ghost, that picture... It's all the loveliness~

Man, all this ME discussion kinda makes me want to play it again... Hmm.

[Dutchess]

[quote]aldien wrote...

Dwarves aren't cut off from the Fade. They just don't dream like humans/elves. If they were cut off from the Fade they wouldn't be able to enter it at all and they can become possessed, though it is rare. I reaserached this a while back and there was this old discussion between Gaider and the forum where they were asking about dwarves and magic. I needed it for my story so Hawke could possess Varric [/quote]

Huh, I thought dwarves had no connection to the Fade. The wiki says this:

[quote]Unlike other living beings, dwarves are not connected to the Fade and do not naturally enter it when they dream. Whether this grants them their natural resistance to magic or is a result of it is unclear, but under certain conditions a dwarf can be forced into the Fade in a dream state.[/quote]

Them entering the Fade happens under unnatural conditions, like the Sloth demon forcing them with a spell. Otherwise they have no bond with it whatsoever. At least that's what I thought.


[quote]Ren, does it really matter these days if we go off topic a bit more than we used to? If it does *sheepish* I failed! It has been going on for a while now.
[/quote]

Probably not. I was just trying to be safe.:innocent:


quote]MrFlipFlops wrote...

I like the shots with Richards XDD Kaidan's eyes behind him especially.[/quote]

LOL, yeah, I only noticed that when I looked at the files, haha. In game I was just focusing on a decent facial expression (so not taking a screenshot when his mouth is half open and his eyes are closed). But Kaidan is watching. Always watching.


[quote]HEY. I have a colonist war hero paragon named Jason! Though he isn't boring. At least, I hope not, the collective time spent on writing him adds up to almost half a year. Also, Jason is a cutie. Yours, that is.[/quote]

What a coincidence! I don't know why I found him so dull. I guess always pressing the paragon option makes him a bit of a softie. I just had so much fun with some renegade options (hanging up on the council, oh, I liked that.), that I missed that previous character. 

[quote]
Man, all this ME discussion kinda makes me want to play it again... Hmm.[/quote]

Do it! Although I'm a terrible completionist. Always have to do all the available side quests. Which is a pain in ME. Gathering minerals.... ugh.

[Enkidu]

ren, I always thought the same about dwarves, based on the information given to us. But then the whole Primeval Thaig or what's it called comes along and makes me wonder... But this is slipping into the "The Maker is Fen'Harel" level of speculation, so I'll stop myself while I'm ahead.

I just hammer at the PrtScrn button and then sift through hundreds of shots to find good ones XDD You can get some really funny facial expressions that way. What I like about taking shots in ME is the lighting. Some people harp on the lighting in that game, but it makes for some great shots. Most of the ones I did for ME were kept because I thought the lighting was interesting. In ME2 it was lighting, eyes and angles. ME3 was mostly just angles, but it had some awesome ones. I have the most screens for that game.

Yeah, I had that problem with a paragon character of mine, Mattie. Soooo, boring. And he was a Spacer War Hero to boot! I finally lost patience half-way through ME2 and scrapped him. His rewriting has recently been finalized into a Paragade Ruthless Spacer. Much more interesting now and the paragon choices actually reflect character and development this time.
Also, hanging up on the council is one of my favourite renegade choices in the game. Some of them are horrible and made me suffer, but others make up for it XDD

Argh, all those damn "collect ten otter noses" side-quests are a pain. A physical one. I feel it. But I can't not complete a quest. So yeah, ME tends to be a bit of a slog sometimes. But I still adore it.

[Amirit]

If you have not seen it yet - read and sing and dance! http://social.biowar...x/14297664&lf=8    <3:wub:

(April... I still count on you with the elf creation :innocent:)

Modifié par Amirit, 30 septembre 2012 - 11:06 .

[aldien]

Readming Amirit's link....Perhaps, BW realized most of us are more interested in our companions than finding loot? Hmmmm.... I could go find some random staff today or shag Fenris.... yeeessssss I know what I would choose. j/k... it is good news

I tried out the Kiss Cullen mod last night. It was very well done. I think I don't dislike him as much as I used to

I was very anal about the Fade and dwarves since I get very picky people reading my fictional silliness, so I checked the forum instead of the Wiki. I was lucky enough to have discovered this....

Forum topic eons ago: Can non-mages become abominations?

Collider wrote: Would Dwarves be able to get possessed? They do not dream.

David Gaider said: They do not dream naturally, but that does not mean they do not have a connection to the Fade-- otherwise they wouldn't be able to enter it at all (and they can, if they are dragged in). That's different from Tranquil. Tranquil have no connection to the Fade and cannot be possessed, ever.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/4799697/1

So....possessed dwarf anyone?

Modifié par aldien, 30 septembre 2012 - 12:28 .