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[coldwetn0se]

@Amirit - Thank you for that link. Thats....intriging.

I swear, are we all like brain connected?? It ain't da Force; it's da Fenris! ;D
I have been playing ME1 again for the past week (occasionally slipping in DA and working with the CC...still trying to make "me"....I must be really weird looking, considering how hard this is...HA! j/k). Like all of you, I too am a completionist. Though I have vowed to run a couple of characters through ME1 and ME2 and NOT worry about every quest. I could argue I have that luxury now, since I don't play me3. Plus, I can then just focus on trying a few things I have never done.

@aldy - I think it would be awesome if a dwarf abomination looked totally different from every other abomination we see. Like somehow their "dwarviness" comes through the physical form of the possession. From a design concept, it could be interesting. Wish I could draw; I might attempt something like that.

[CuriousArtemis]

Did y'all hear that random kissing will be returning to DA3?

[Amirit]

This is what we are discussing last 4 posts, Moto.

And speaking of ME - could you please, ME lovers, tell me if there are any mods to the games? I mean, vanilla ME1 was a torture to me (after DA) companion interaction-romance wise (in anything else too, but those were most painful points). ME2 I started and can not bring myself to continue.

Obviously, I am missing something here. Did not turn on some options or did not install some mods-DLC. It can not be that bad if so many people love it and more then DA specifically for companions.

Modifié par Amirit, 30 septembre 2012 - 07:44 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Er, I think I'm confused? o.O I checked the last couple posts and nobody mentioned random kissing so I thought you guys didn't know....

[coldwetn0se]

@Amirit - no, no "true" mods for ME, just some cosmetic ones. Hey, not every game will be liked by all. If you don't like it, you don't like it.....it's all good, baby! I loved the characters in those games, and I eventually even enjoyed the gameplay (I do NOT play shooters....I really am that bad at them. HA!). As for role playing a Shepard, to me if you are able to RP a Hawke, you shouldn't have to much trouble RPing a Shepard. However, the sci-fi element, and type of gameplay, isn't everyones cup of tea. DA is what inspired me to finally consider playing ME (and I actually started with ME2). I too didn't know if I cared for it at first, but I toughed it out, and fell in love with it. Had to get the first one right away after that, and love it as well. Will refrain from discussing the other one.....

[Dutchess]

Modding for ME is extremely limited, even more than for DA2. As far as I know, the only possibilities require modifications of game files. That's why I never bothered with it. So I'm afraid that's not where you will find the game's merits. Companion interaction may seem more limited than in DAO, but it's still fairly interesting and entertaining (and indeed for me a primary reason of playing and replaying). I was reluctant to try out the series, because I don't really have a thing for sci-fi. I'm more of the fantasy with elves. But because of characters like Garrus... okay, okay, because of Garrus, haha, I really enjoyed the experience. And the story was engaging enough as well.

If ME1 didn't really do anything for you, I am afraid the rest of the series won't be your cup of tea either. Although you might still try playing ME2 a bit more. It's more polished than ME1 and focuses more on squad mates, so perhaps you'll like that more.


The return of the option to kiss your lover in DA3 is, of course, awesome indeed. But it also makes me sad... Because I feel once more how much we are missing out when it comes to Fenris. We will never be able to kiss him when we want to. Fenris misses out on the love.

[CuriousArtemis]

renjility wrote...

The return of the option to kiss your lover in DA3 is, of course, awesome indeed. But it also makes me sad... Because I feel once more how much we are missing out when it comes to Fenris. We will never be able to kiss him when we want to. Fenris misses out on the love.

Yes but imagine how he would have reacted 

Fenris: *blinks* Hawke... what are you doing? *backs away* HAWKE! This is neither the time or place!!
Hawke: tee-hee 
Isabela and Merrill: Awww <3
Anders and Aveline: I think I'm going to be sick  

Modifié par motomotogirl, 30 septembre 2012 - 08:20 .

[Amirit]

Coldy, you are probably right. I am with you on "shooters are not my cup of tea" thing. Though, sci-fi I love and should have no problem with. I suspect it is a combination of many factors. And I had to start from ME2, like I started from DA2. Now it's too late I guess.

Btw, is it my dislike towards ME, or animation (mime, emotions, facial expression especially) really worse then in any DA?  (the scence supposed to make me cry and melt, yet I feel only regret I did not sacrificed Kaidan in ME1)

Ren, in ME2 so far I only hope I can kill Miranda somewhere down the road. The only emotion I have. But I will do it, I will play it through. Hate to leave unfinished games. And totally agree - Garrus is the bright spot, breath of fresh air and so on. Though, I would not mind should they let that other Spector to live (the one dyed at very beginning). 

Modifié par Amirit, 30 septembre 2012 - 08:34 .

[Dutchess]

motomotogirl wrote...

renjility wrote...

The return of the option to kiss your lover in DA3 is, of course, awesome indeed. But it also makes me sad... Because I feel once more how much we are missing out when it comes to Fenris. We will never be able to kiss him when we want to. Fenris misses out on the love.

Yes but imagine how he would have reacted 

Fenris: *blinks* Hawke... what are you doing? *backs away* HAWKE! This is neither the time or place!!
Hawke: tee-hee 
Isabela and Merrill: Awww <3
Anders and Aveline: I think I'm going to be sick  

LOL. Hey, that's not helping actually! Now I want that even more!

Amirit wrote...

Ren, in ME2 so far I only hope I can kill Miranda somewhere down the road. The only emotion I have. But I will do it, I will play it through. Hate to leave unfinished games. And totally agree - Garrus is the bright spot, breath of fresh air and so on. Though, I would not mind should they let that other Spector to live (the one dyed at very beginning). 

Huh, wait, who? You mean... Shepard? That's the only Spectre I recall dying in the beginning of the game. But... you're Shepard, so I don't follow.

[coldwetn0se]

Do you mean Nihlus, the first Spectre you see in ME1?

(pssstt.....love Garrus and Wrex, but give Thane a chance too. Yeah, yeah....in the Thane camp here. )

[Dutchess]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Do you mean Nihlus, the first Spectre you see in ME1?

(pssstt.....love Garrus and Wrex, but give Thane a chance too. Yeah, yeah....in the Thane camp here. )

Oh, right. That would probably it. I was thinking about ME2, because she was talking about Miranda.

[Amirit]

Sorry, since I did not finished ME2 I tolked mostly about ME1
Yes, I think it was Nihlus. Do not remember why he looked so interesting (voice, probably, what else?) but he did. And the moment I told myself "oh, there is something positive here" - he was dead. So the whole game was one disappointment after another And Miranda in ME2 was the last drop - it felt like "why the hell did you wake me up at all to that misery"

I am curious about everyones love Thane, so, another reason to pull myself together and finish the game.

[coldwetn0se]

I actually really liked Nihlus too, and had hoped he would have been around for the rest of the game. As for Thane, he has a very nice voice (Keyth Farley has a great voice for voice acting...much like Gideon Emery and Brendon Keener). My one bit of advice for all the characters, is be sure to click on all possible dialogue options (though I suspect you would do that any how) I notice when most people question why people like this character or that character, it is often revealed that the person pondering this, hasn't ever bothered to really explore that character.

Take Fenris; some people love him, others at the very least, get his appeal, and others still can't stand him. Most of the time people have a hard time seeing past the obvious aspects of these different characters, because they really don't listen to them. Or they never bother playing out all their dialogues. This doesn't mean that you will or need to like every character, but the fact that they are all different, makes them appealing to me. This is true in both DA and ME. Ok, I'm rambling now.......

[Amirit]

Oh, this is my kind of rumbling You know, one can talk about companions (and LIs!) endlessly and no one will mind.

I did use all (I think) possible dialogs options. Which felt really strange considering that emotionless up to disorder degree Shepard. Well, I will not bashing the game. Probably the main problem is the lack of interesting LI. Should I like Kaidan I might forgive ME all the flaws - real and subjective - and join the crowd of fans. Let's see if Thane can do the trick.

[coldwetn0se]

One last note: ME1 is set up more like DAO as far as the dialogue is concerned. Like DAO, you have the majority of your dialogue options for each character almost immediately (which means you can burn through the dialogue pretty quick if you wanted to....or do so by accident. heh!) ME2 dialogue opens up as you work your way through the game. And you have more dialogue options for the character you wish to romance (once the romance is initiated). Hope you have some fun, but if not.....there's always DA.

[Enkidu]

Amirit, I don't think I can convince you to like a game you obviously don't enjoy XDD These things are subjective, not fact, even if many people share a positive opinion of a thing. There are no doubt millions of people in the world who love fish, but I can't stand it and no amount of dishes will make me like it. Fish tastes like rotten swamp water to me, but it's not that it actually does taste that way and all the fish-lovers in the world simply see something else that I don't. It just doesn't taste like swamp to them.
Long and unnecessary metaphor aside, I never really compare games to each other, even if they are by the same developer. Different franchise? That’s it. Apples and oranges. DA is great at being DA, better than any other game will be. Why try looking for it in others? ME is good at being ME. It's different and I enjoy it. But, I also enjoy DAO and DA2 equally and, while ME3 is my least favourite game in the trilogy, I still like it a lot, so, apparently, I am a genetically engineered mutant made by the gaming industry.

[CuriousArtemis]

MrFlipFlops wrote...

There are no doubt millions of people in the world who love fish, but I can't stand it and no amount of dishes will make me like it. Fish tastes like rotten swamp water to me, but it's not that it actually does taste that way and all the fish-lovers in the world simply see something else that I don't. It just doesn't taste like swamp to them.

I just wanted to point out that if you came down to Louisiana you would be justified in that opinion, because, well, we do get our fish from swamp water xDDDD

[Enkidu]

Fae, you know, I hear the DA2-ME complaint a lot and never get it. The implication here being not that it's wrong, but that I'm daft. Besides the wheel and the voiced PC I never noticed any similarities between them. The combat is more action-y, yeah, but then you can say that DA2 rips off Alpha Protocol with as much credence. It actually had a "suave" dialogue style option that reminds me a lot of snarky!Hawke XDD What am I supposed to be looking at? Is it because the game is, forgive me for using another abused word, more "streamlined"? Is that somehow ME-related? DA2, while I love it, had many flaws, but in which of them does ME's eezo caked space-hand show? Is it related to the game's silly plot progression? Character arcs? Mechanics?

Ha-ha, it just seems that way XDD Games are one of the few things I'm not an obnoxious tool about (most of the time).

Modifié par MrFlipFlops, 01 octobre 2012 - 08:11 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Hey, Fenris peeps! I was looking through my screenshot folder yesterday and came across this little gem from my latest playthrough:



Enjoy!

[Enkidu]

Fae, then it's just the things I described? Wheel, voice and action? I guess those are hardly the things that define ME for me, which is why I never got the complaint about the supposed similarities between ME and DA2. Again, all those things can be found in other modern games Also, the new elves don't look like any alien in ME. They are drastically different now, but are nothing like any species in ME. The rest is true. This brings another point to my apparent unnatural genetics - I like the new elves. I truly do.

Well, many people can be tools about games XDD Or anything they're passionate about, it's normal. I'm pretty asinine myself, just with different things than most, so it's rarely seen. There are times I do agree with the group consensus on what's bad however (DA2 caves can go suck it, Jacob and Thane were screwed horribly and disgustingly in ME3, DE:HR bosses can go live in a cave in DA2).

[Amirit]

Fae, you again verbalized all my thoughts. And did it perfectly.

MrFlipFlop - to me (someone who at least tried to play ME) the influence is very clear. There are many factors that taken separately look like a minor change but together define and change the game look completely. From interface to combat speed, the single protagonist you do not really choose, VO, separating companions, etc. It all came from ME. DA2 is like adaptation of a shooter to whatever DAO playstyle is called.

Now, that aside I am asking for help. Again. No one can help me with my elf, but may be some kind soul can fix my Sheppard. I did find a face in that library that I can at least look at without screaming. And it's way better the monster I normally create. But it's a code. Not the morf file (.me2headmorph) you can simply import, just a code. Like this 443.I1L.MI7.F6A.88K.E4U.9MB.711.W76.411.3G5.436

How can you import the code into your game? Or convert it into the morf file?

[Enkidu]

Amirit, in ME2 you can just input the code at CC, for ME you can covert the code into slider positions. The program is avaliable on that site, choose "ME2-to-ME1" in the top menu. If you don't want to start a new game, then in ME2 you can use the Gibbed save editor to change a character's look (you'll still have to make the new face in CC and save it). With ME, I'm afraid, you'll just have to start over.

[Amirit]

Thank you! Never occur to me and I think was too obvious for any moder to explain on forums. I do not mind to start another game and get a new morf file. So simple!

P.S. Hm... In new games faces look nothing like of the screenshots. But with combination with the editor there is a hope.

P.P.S. Found an argumet for you, MrFlipFlop (used by Aldien once): DAO is a game, MEs and DA2 - interactive movies. Different genres. No wonder some people are unhappy. It's like if you come to the theater to see a tragedy and got a circus show instead. The show can be brilliant, but it's not what you were expecting and - let's be honest - promised.

Modifié par Amirit, 01 octobre 2012 - 01:39 .