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Amirit, but that's the thing, the MEs and DA2 aren't interactive movies to me. I have no doubt they feel that way to you and Aldy, but I genuinly don't see it that way. I truly just... don't. I feel invested, in control and in no way constrained. You do. And that's fine, people can have vastly different experiences of the same thing. The only thing I ask of others regarding this is that they don't belittle me for enjoying those games, as if I'm just blind to the truth and am practically an inferior species not possessing of enough intellect and class to recognise the true foulness of my entertainment and not capable of appreciating the truly genius things on a deeper level, or, my favourite, that I am "part of the problem". I know you guys would never do that, but liking unpopular things has gotten me into unpleasant interactions sometimes, I guess I'm still a bit bitter about it. Sorry for the outburst. Shoot, quick, need something funny!
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Love this pic!

No, no and no! No belittles or anything. In fact, I finished my another ideal DAO run and ready to give ME2 a serious shot. And I mean it. Something tells me with a couple of fixes here and there I might even enjoy it (thanks again for all the tips).

Just out of curiosity - you really truly do not see more similarity between MEs and DA2 then between MEs and DAO?

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Amirit, of course you do, it has Fenris in it! XDD
Yeah, I know you were simply stating your opinion, it just has sort of brought back unpleasant memories. Didn't mean to imply that anyone here engages in such behaviour, y'all are great.
Good luck with ME2. But don't make yourself like it, it's okay not to, you know XDD If you're not enjoying it than you shouldn't make yourself slog through it anyway.

Of course I see similarities, but they are things I don't care much about one way or the other, so they seem a but superficial to me. Like the fact of ME and some FF games both having guns in them. I know the wheel, voiced PC and human only protag are more than just that to some people, but to me they're not. Sure these things are different than in DAO, but I suppose it doesn't bother me. I already have DAO, it's enough. I never expected DA2 to be like it, I guess, so there was no disappointment. Everyone views such things differently XDD The only thing I want for DA3 is for more people to enjoy it in their own way. It's really sad seeing so many who are disappointed, I hope everyone can have a great time again with the third game. It's so much nicer when people are happy.

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@Ren - nice dreamy Sheps! I like Jason's scar.. still don't understand why they took the scars out in ME2, they were great.

@ Nifalasiel - lovely screenie!

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(April... I still count on you with the elf creation :innocent:)


Challenge accepted! haha I have plans for tonight and most of tomorrow, but I'll see what I can come up with Wednesday evening.

ME v DA, I came to know BioWare from ME1 and because I enjoyed that and ME2 so much that I decided to give the DA franchise a try. Looking at my playtimes and fanart pretty safe to say that DA has become my favorite series. Probably part of that was my disspointment over the ME3 endings and the (imo over use of) dramatic cinematic/auto-dialogue in that game.  (edit to clarify - I was doing replays of both games at about the same rate until ME3, got 3 of my Sheps through ME3 and then... just lost the gusto and haven't played any ME since, my poor 5th Shep is stuck half way through ME1... one day I'll go back to it.. one day)

The dialogue wheel and such brought into DA from ME.. I agree, sucks. I really really hope they do not start putting in paragon/renegade 'interupts' in DA.. *shiver* They are great in ME.. but don't fit in with the DA playstyle IMO.

I haven't tried the Thane-mance yet... for some reason the 'memory flashback' talks kind of annoy me *ducks*

on an unrelated note, I finally got the hsti mage robe mods to work! These are the "Lovely Abomination" robes
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I thoroughly enjoyed both The DA and the ME franchises though it took awhile with ME cause -*RAGEQUITTHROWCONTROLLER*- I have no aiming abilities. Oh, I do so remember the days of complaining about it here and having ME veterans pat me on the head and be like "Turn down the difficulty, try again.".I actually found myself more proud of My Shep then I had been of my Warden when she climbed out of the rubble in the end, I had this big stupid grin on my face. Just thinking about it, *fondsmile*

I really hope a couple things do get carried over, like the Renegade/Paragon style. Sure DAII had the option of yelling, but mostly in DA2 and DA:O when you do bad things I felt like an evil maniac, I was just freaking mean. in ME-verse when you were cruel it really felt in character, like she had a reason for exterminating the Rachni, for shooting innocents, In ME you feel ruthless and hardened by everything you go though, in DA it was more like evil with a freaking chip on your shoulder. So I believe their Paragon/Renegade stuff could use some cross game collaboration.

April: We NEED the interrupts they were like the best thing for gaming, hugging distraught companions, pushing annoying targets out windows Head butting a Qunari!! *fansself*... And, since they don't have to be pressed then Interrupts only bring more to a game and don't take away anything. Also with the Chaos that was the Thane romance in ME3 I'll tell you what I told my bestie when she borrowed my game and the question of romancing Thane came up "Thane, is awesome, Love him... makes a really epic friend."

Kiss anywhere! Yay! I wonder who my Elf romance will be this time, he's gonna be getting a LOT of random love to make up for Zevran and Fenris missing out. Or maybe Cole (If that rumour is true)... this will probably be the first game where I feel torn about who I romance! Other then ME2.

I hope if we get cameos by our Hawke/Warden that their romances are still with them... I just, I just want to see Fenris and Zev one more time before the DA universe moves out of that time line... just... one more time.

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the problem with Cole is that you'd forget flirting with him right afterwards. *ba-dum-dum*
(just finished Asunder.. Cole as a companion...really? not sure how that would work. off to read the DA3 thread about it to hear the ideas!)

head butt a Quanari LOL oh the image...

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Flippy said: Ha-ha, it just seems that way XDD Games are one of the few things I'm not an obnoxious tool about (most of the time).


Hey! What's wrong with being an obnoxious tool? ;)

I can't play ME 3, (haven't tried the other two) because of the horrendous lip synching and that is my only reason. It's true... it drives me crazy and basically the rest of the game doesn't exist after the first word. Shallow, I know, but that is a big deal for me like favorite characters dying to others. I apologize to you hardened ME fans.
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Nilfalasiel! Oh! That's one of the best screenies I have seen of Fenris and I mean it and Iv'e seen... many ;) Thank you for sharing.

I have to agree with Flippy, I am quite fond of the new elves, especially the height. I've never been able to see elves as shorter than humans, so although I found them lovely in DA:O I still craved for them to be tall and straight. I love Fenris and  his look, his muscular legs, large biceps, long elegant fingers that I'm sure could be put to good use.... uh you get the idea. It is part of what gives him that Fenrisy grace and the regality that he oozes. So... no short elves for me :/

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P.P.S. Found an argumet for you, MrFlipFlop (used by Aldien once): DAO is a game, MEs and DA2 - interactive movies.

Amirit you cannot invoke the name of Aldy unless you are prepared to deal with her wrath...

Flippy said:  The only thing I ask of others regarding this is that they don't belittle me for enjoying those game

Never! I'd belittle you if you just agreed with everyone and didn't take up for your own preferences. ;) There used to be ages ago, a person on here who had two cronies and no matter what was said the three of them always agreed with each other. . It used to make me feel ill. I bet Ren knows who I am talking about ;) Freakin' flames could be falling from the sky and if the grand poobah of the threesome said it was raining then they all agreed it was raining. I ummmmm well I was mean to them, but in a loving way >:} In other words, I respect your opinions because you state them even if you believe they are going to be opposed. And I really hope nothing I have said has made you feel that way. I'm sorry if I have.

For me, DA2 and DA:O are now two different games that share the same lore but are not related in any other way. Since I've come to that agreement with my brain cells, I am much happier for it.  I never expect anyone to feel the same way about a game as I do because it's such a personal experience. However, I do like to debate and that tends to get me in trouble. The other thing I want to say is that, even though I said DA2 feels like an interactive movie compared to traditional rpgs, I have always taken up for the game throughout the forum. Because I do love it and I know other people do too. I've played it 15+ times. If DA3 turns out to be a lot like it, I'd play it and I'm certain I'd enjoy it (as long as Fenris and Alistair do not die. There's just too much feelings there.) especially if they add the random kissing back in :D The only reason I've never played ME1 or 2 and I didn't finish 3 because of the lip synching.

Fleshdress said: Sure DAII had the option of yelling, but mostly in DA2 and DA:O when you do bad things I felt like an evil maniac

You know... sometimes real life carries over into games :lol: Joking! Don't hit me! Have you figured out what Cole is yet? Because I.... maybe it's just me but I'm not sure. o_O

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@ Nilfalasiel: ooh, that is a wonderful screenshot indeed! Thanks for sharing! ;)

@ April: thanks! Such a shame of the scars, indeed. I give all Shepards scars (well, I gave all three of them scars, hehe). The only reason I can come up with is that Miranda decided to get rid of the scar while she was at it. If you can resurrect someone, removing a scar can't be very difficult. :P

Your warden looks great! What an elegant, pretty elf. And you're not alone when it comes to Thane. I'm sorry to say I fail to see his appeal. I guess he's not my type. The vibrator in his voice annoys me too.

@ aldien: I know who you mean, although I'm not sure who the third person is. I just recall the "brain twin" thing, because that creeped me out. xD

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@ Nilfalasiel: ooh, that is a wonderful screenshot indeed! Thanks for sharing! ;)

@ April: thanks! Such a shame of the scars, indeed. I give all Shepards scars (well, I gave all three of them scars, hehe). The only reason I can come up with is that Miranda decided to get rid of the scar while she was at it. If you can resurrect someone, removing a scar can't be very difficult. :P

Your warden looks great! What an elegant, pretty elf. And you're not alone when it comes to Thane. I'm sorry to say I fail to see his appeal. I guess he's not my type. The vibrator in his voice annoys me too.

@ aldien: I know who you mean, although I'm not sure who the third person is. I just recall the "brain twin" thing, because that creeped me out. xD


Ren said: The vibrator in his voice annoys me too.

:blink::lol::blink:


There was a number 3, but that one wasn't as errrrr creepy as the other two. *shivers* Just... don't. Why did I bring them up. Gah... runs away screaming.

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Ok, stop discussing Thane right now! :) Seriously, if I would not be able to find an acceptable LI in ME2 too - the game will dye for me. Don't want to go there with prejudgment.

Aldien, I only mentioned your name because did not want to steal your term (and probably to get some backup too ;) ) It was just too well said to be forgotten.
You might try ME2 one day - who knows if leep sichronization is better you might even like it... (Guess, I am trying to convince myself)

April - I can't wait to see the result. If anyone can pull that off, it's you :) (Am I good enough at flattering? But I mean it! Really!)
Nice robe, btw. And here I thought I collected all armor mods. Looks like one of the best is missing.

Btw, what are you talking about - no scars in ME2? Your face is all scars! :) (I know, I know - additional. J/k)

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Amirit wrote...

Ok, stop discussing Thane right now! :) Seriously, if I would not be able to find an acceptable LI in ME2 too - the game will dye for me. Don't want to go there with prejudgment.

Aldien, I only mentioned your name because did not want to steal your term (and probably to get some backup too ;) ) It was just too well said to be forgotten.
You might try ME2 one day - who knows if leep sichronization is better you might even like it... (Guess, I am trying to convince myself)

April - I can't wait to see the result. If anyone can pull that off, it's you :) (Am I good enough at flattering? But I mean it! Really!)
Nice robe, btw. And here I thought I collected all armor mods. Looks like one of the best is missing.

Btw, what are you talking about - no scars in ME2? Your face is all scars! :) (I know, I know - additional. J/k)


It seems these days, I am arguing even when I'm not present to my own argument. :blink:

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A serious amount of Thane dislike in this thread....which I find interesting since just about every Thane fan I know is a huge Fenris fan. I also find it interesting how often (and I am guilty of this as well) people are quick to point out what they don't like about something or someone, even when they know others here do. It feels a bit like "needling". Instead of focusing on what you don't like, maybe tell us what you do like. Not suggesting that people don't talk about things they like, just that it seems to get overshadowed by what is NOT liked.

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Maybe we should stay somewhere nearer the topic then? Yes... no... maybe? I don't know! Sometimes, I think people forget just how much the characters mean to another person. I'm guilty of going on about Anders and my rabid dislike for him and I upset someone because of it. It wasn't intentional but still... I don't like doing that to people. What about Danarius? Can we take our hate out on him and blame him for everything we don't like? You know he streams down the Internet and plants bad thoughts in our heads don't you? Could you imagine if Fenris was transported to our world? He'd be beating up all the appliances thinking them possessed or full of blood magic ;) And what would he think of the pictures of him??? o_O Poor elf.


I had to post Nifalasiel's picture again. Hope you don't mind but this was a beautiful shot of Fenris :D He is eyeing up an apple. I'm certain of it. You want it Fenris. You know you do :D

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 I love Thane, love, love love. He and Garrus share the entirety of my ME Fan Squee, and because I absolutely adore him I can't romance him, not with any character I plan on dragging into ME3. As a friend I can handle where the Thane plot line goes, as a romance... no, just no. I am in serious denial that romanced Thane even exists in ME3. Probably will be until Bioware finally releases a toolkit and lets the fans fix the mess that was made of the ME2 romance options. My saving grace was that I have Garrus still. *clings to raptor boyfriend*
Um as an evil maniac I can't not hit you for that Aldien.<_< But I promise to feel really bad about it after. :P Cole is a thing that I can't really explain here without being a spoilery miss spoiler. I don't think out characters will have any problems remembering him now April, given the events at the end of Asunder. 

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@aldy - I like your idea....f**k Danarius! :D And are you sure that is an apple he is pining for, or a couple of "apples"! *Badum Tch!* XD

Alrighty then. I feel the need to pic spam here in a bit.....need to upload a few screenies first. BRB! ;)

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Cold: I meant no offense. Sorry if it came across that way.


Aldy: hey, I happen to really like Danarius! He has a good side... okay, no, he doesn't. Still, he does make me wonder. Is he truly just an evil man? Is that all there was to him? There must be something about himself he considers good... few people are utterly and completely evil. Not that I want to defend him or the thing's he's done... no excuse can be good enough for that. Still, I'm curious about Danarius' point of view on things... especially on Fenris, because I feel he did have some kind of twisted affection for his "pet".
I wrote two chapters from Danarius pov, and it was really fun and interesting to do.

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I warned you I would pic spam!

Castor: I think you got blood on my face...
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And a couple of new Castor Hawke shots....Fenris' pride!!Posted Image

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He does have that sort of 'come here you saucy minx' look doesn't he? Now you've just given bobbing for apples a whole new meaning, Coldy! I can not unthink that... oh well it's not exactly unpleasant imagery ;)

Fleshdress said: Um as an evil maniac I can't not hit you for that Aldien.smilie But I promise to feel really bad about it after.

LOL! Very good point! But wait... wouldn't an evil maniac not feel bad about it later? o_O

Castor!!!!!!!!! No Fenris can't have him!

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oh I do like Thane! He's good friends with 2 of my sheps, I like the dynamic between him and his son and the assassin quest I think is great fun. I was just trying to explain why I hadn't romanced him yet, sorry, I did not mean, or want, to offend.

edit to add- Great screenies Cold!

@Fleshdress re: Cole, well... *spoilers* the litany (sp?) cancelled out his cloaking ability and made him visible but when he later confronted Lord Seeker, he still had to say 'look in my eyes' for Lord to see him (he sensed him). Not that I'm 100% correct or anything, that was how I interpreted it. I don't see how he could be a companion really.. unless it's Rhys/Cole (Anders/Justice V2). I'm reading some of the Cole threads now.

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renjility wrote...

Aldy: hey, I happen to really like Danarius! He has a good side... okay, no, he doesn't. Still, he does make me wonder. Is he truly just an evil man? Is that all there was to him?


Danarius is evil in every and all universes! No redemption for him! lol
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LOL! What IS that? I just... oh no, I will never be able to unsee that. Alright, you win, Danarius is completely evil and vile. xD What is that sitting on his butt... or tail... or legs? :P

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renjility wrote...

LOL! What IS that? I just... oh no, I will never be able to unsee that. Alright, you win, Danarius is completely evil and vile. xD What is that sitting on his butt... or tail... or legs? :P


hee
that is Varania as Salacious Crumb 'cause she's evil too! (Danarius the Butt instead of Jabba the Hutt)

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WTF April lol That is awesome xDDD

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AbsoluteApril wrote...

renjility wrote...

Aldy: hey, I happen to really like Danarius! He has a good side... okay, no, he doesn't. Still, he does make me wonder. Is he truly just an evil man? Is that all there was to him?


Danarius is evil in every and all universes! No redemption for him! lol
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This is all KINDS of AWESOME!!  BWAHAHAHA!