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Cold: It looks like Fen is gonna break into a very poignant song there. If I could see any two characters breaking into a duet it would be these two. Imagine them doing "Loathing" from WICKED. I don't know which one would be Galinda or Elphaba but it would still totally work. (wait, yah... Anders would totally be Galinda.) 

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Very true, but I think Fen and Anders are the most expressive ones of the lot. Fen covers the frowny part of the spectrum, while Anders has "Ser Pouts-a-lot" down pat. And they share smirks between them. By comparison, everyone else is a tad wooden-faced. Although Aveline can scowl like a boss.


The very first expression that caught me was Isabela, talking to Lucky. The super annoyed look and then the evilest of all the smiles. I love Fens littler smirks, his frowns are ace, but he is the king of sardonic humour. 

Yeah, I can imagine that if you've never played FFXII, it would be rather confuddling (starting with what exactly a viera, a moogle or a bangaa are, lol). I only have scribbles as far as DA is concerned: the most finished thing I have is an account of Rinna's death from Zev's PoV...Posted Image I have longer bits for ME, involving Garrus on Omega. I should really think about finishing some of these...

I never wrote for ME, which was surprising cause it pretty much owned my soul for awhile there. My DA stuff... it gets away from me at times, I start stories and then get bored and start new ones. Too many ideas, too A.D.D to bring any of them to fruition. Anything involving Zev or Garrus piques my interest.

As long as you give Zev a bow, he can work fine. I take Leliana because she's the only one on my team to actually have archery skills, but as long as you're dealing ranged damage, it doesn't really matter who's doing it or how.


Zev with a bow? No, no, I must take him as Dragon bait. Much like with Fenris I have come to find that as long as an elf is present to chew on they leave my main Melee alone.:lol:

Oh, one of the more dire Fen topics: What is your theory about the effect of lyrium on Fens poor abused brain?

I remember someone said the lyrium acted much like Mercury poisoning, and that Danarius used to maintain the lyrium in Fenris. 

ToP again. I feel unkind today. Here have some heartbreaking Fenris.
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May I reccomend a pro-Templar, power hungry aggro!mage who rivals everyone but Fenris cause they are in love, as a main course, bloodmagic and hypocrisy goes great as sides. Srsly, the laughs, oh the laughs. I did that, named my mage Darius for giggles. Uhg, I'm evil.:devil:


oh you are evil! Evil incarnate! lol

just popping in to say hello to the Fen thread. I've been and will be pretty much MIA until Halloween has passed, working on art stuff and costume stuff. Speaking of art stuff - anyone have a good screenshot of the viscount's throne? from a straight forward view? if not, I'll try to get one later but if someone has one handy..

Got my copy of Witcher 2 the other day so started a first PT of this game that I kept hearing so much on these forums. not bad so far but holy smokes, it's like cinematics, cinematics everywhere.

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Got my copy of Witcher 2 the other day so started a first PT of this game that I kept hearing so much on these forums. not bad so far but holy smokes, it's like cinematics, cinematics everywhere.


And this is from someone who played ME3? Wow, did not know it's possible to make something more cinematic.

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Amirit, oh, girl, believe me, compared to some of the stuff out there, ME3 is interactive to the power of infinity. It really is far from the worst offenders. Not to say that it couldn't have given me more power...

April, yay, Witcher! Gotta say it now, CD Project are awesome. I love those guys on a human level if only for openly stating that DRM is bull**** and generally treating their customer with more than distrust and cold disdain.

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You are full of sweet thoughts and kind words about the world today, MrFlipFlops :)

Got you. Ok, no more complains about ME3. Guess I just moved to fast from the full control style (like DAO) to something... less controllable.

P.S. Remember our discussion about taint and babies and so on? Here is the vision of D.G. 3 years ago: http://social.biowar...455504/2#455902

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Your name is Tania? Small world, as you can see I really love that name, I usually have one female with some variation of it. Lucky.


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Sorry to barge into your conversation, but that is my name too! How interesting! I wonder if all girls with that name love Fenris? Posted Image

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Amirit wrote...

And this is from someone who played ME3? Wow, did not know it's possible to make something more cinematic.


Try playing Metal Gear Solid 4...

I seriously think there are more cinematics than gameplay in that game.

@ Miss Greyjoy: Who knows? It's a possibility Posted Image

@ Fleshdress: Gah, those pics Posted Image The second one is especially beautiful, but still...

I never wrote for ME, which was surprising cause it pretty much owned my soul for awhile there. My DA stuff... it gets away from me at times, I start stories and then get bored and start new ones. Too many ideas, too A.D.D to bring any of them to fruition. Anything involving Zev or Garrus piques my interest.


If I knew where to post fic scraps, I'd do it, but I don't want unfinished stuff on my FF.net account.

Zev with a bow? No, no, I must take him as Dragon bait. Much like with Fenris I have come to find that as long as an elf is present to chew on they leave my main Melee alone.Posted Image


Lol...but the dragon is supposed to go after Shale!

Oh, one of the more dire Fen topics: What is your theory about the effect of lyrium on Fens poor abused brain?

I remember someone said the lyrium acted much like Mercury poisoning, and that Danarius used to maintain the lyrium in Fenris.


I remember this being mentioned. Did Gaider confirm this?

Considering Fen spends 7+ years in Kirkwall (and thus away from Danarius) without any visible harmful side-effects, either the negative repercussions of lyrium are grossly exaggerated, or it has a long half-life or something. I wonder if it's possible that it would simply gradually phase out of his system if not maintained?

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Amirit, that's me, I'm a beacon of sweetness))
Yeah, I guess that sort of shift can be a bit jarring. I just don't notice anymore since I play so many games. And the MGS4 example is perfect, I think hour-for-hour the cutscenes outnumber gameplay =__+ And most of the dialogue in them is redundant.

Nilf, to weigh in on the dragon strategies. I remember my usual tactic was to send Alistair with all the fire resistance charms into the ruined circle thingy on the edge of the battlefield and place everyone else behind the wall. Leave the healer there, cart the mage and archer-rogue out to take potshots/freeze the dragon while it’s busy chewing on Ali and then quickly hide them again. Kinda tedious, but low-risk and effective!

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So ... after de-lurking myself a couple of weeks ago I kinda went silent on you all again, didn't I? :unsure:

I've been trying to finish the game ... which included playing Legacy and Mark of the Assassin. And romancing Fenris fully (well, obviously. <3).

I can now proudly say that I did it! I ... finished the game. The ending made me so sad, when Varric said 'circumstances forced us all the leave the Champion's side ... well, except for Fenris, of course'. And then when Cassandra goes outside to talk to Leliana, and you see that she's been questioning him inside Hawke's mansion. I had a lump in my throat when I saw the Hawke crest, all worn and scarred! I think I grew just as attached to my Hawke as I did to my Warden. I want both of them to come baaaaaaack, dammit! :(

I'm glad Fenris is wherever Hawke is, of course. I just got so damn attached to these characters ... I wanted them all to escape Kirkwall together on Isabela's ship and sail off into destiny. I can't believe that the last shot we get of Hawke is her leaving the Gallows. I mean, Hawke said goodbye to all her friends before the final battle (oh, Fenris, that kiss ...), but I wasn't prepared for my goodbye. *sniffle*

Anyway, my thoughts aren't exactly in order about the game right now, but I totally loved it. I'm sorry for rambling. I feel inspired to go write some fanfic now ... or draw something ... I dunno. Bioware games do this to me.

/emotional rambling

Edit: Found it! Aimo's 'DA2 - Epilogue' comic is the kind of thing I have going on in my head right now. A pretty awesome way to round off the game for us Fenris lovers. :)

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I've never seen that comic before! I love Issy's and Merrill's faces in the last panel <3

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Aimo's rendering of expressions just WINS. I love Varric's face in the second panel, too. :D
By the way, Motomotogirl, about your sig - I started a Mage Origin playthrough in DA:O and I can finally see what the fuss about Cullen is. I mean, I thought he was pretty hot in the second game, but I had NO idea he goes all bashful on the female Mage Warden! :3

Gotta love repeat playthroughs for added layers of context. ^_^

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Isn't it cute? xD I started a female mage playthrough just to flirt with him lol Oh, and he will recognize you later on, when you return to the Circle, so... watch for that :P

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motomotogirl wrote...

Isn't it cute? xD I started a female mage playthrough just to flirt with him lol Oh, and he will recognize you later on, when you return to the Circle, so... watch for that :P


I saw that there was a mini-romance mod written for him for the Mage origin and got curious. Wondering if it's any good; has anybody tried it out? 

I'm part of the group that fails to see the appeal in him, even in DA2, apart from the fact that he's rocking the ex-Anders voice (which just makes me confused whenever I have to talk to him). But my only Mage Warden was male, so I never saw the romance aspect either. Might give it a try at some point in the future. Maybe then I'll understand.

Also, aimo is totally boss. That was an epic Fen-smooch.

@ Flips: Oh, that's clever thinking. Although isn't it a bit of a chore to get the dragon way over there? I once got it stuck on a pillar while fighting it on the sloping path from the caverns, and it couldn't do anything to my team. Couldn't attack, couldn't retaliate. I admit I felt a bit cheated out of a fight that time. Posted Image

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I'm on xbox so I haven't taken advantage of that mod. Plus I only started the Amell female mage origin to flirt with him a bit; I normally play male Wardens lol

Well with Cullen, I played DA2 first and just fell in love with the guy. Before I came to the BSN, I frequented another forum, and we were saying who wish had been a LI. I said Cullen because he just appealed to me on some level... his voice was really nice, he was handsome, and he was an NPC who actually had an arc! He evolves. He had a personality. I mean compare him to his fellow templars, like Thrask, for instance. I don't see much change in Thrask as a character.

I don't care for Cullen much in DA:O because he's so minor and not really developed.

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motomotogirl wrote...

I'm on xbox so I haven't taken advantage of that mod. Plus I only started the Amell female mage origin to flirt with him a bit; I normally play male Wardens lol

Well with Cullen, I played DA2 first and just fell in love with the guy. Before I came to the BSN, I frequented another forum, and we were saying who wish had been a LI. I said Cullen because he just appealed to me on some level... his voice was really nice, he was handsome, and he was an NPC who actually had an arc! He evolves. He had a personality. I mean compare him to his fellow templars, like Thrask, for instance. I don't see much change in Thrask as a character.

I don't care for Cullen much in DA:O because he's so minor and not really developed.


That's the problem though: there's such a big difference between who he is in DAO and who he is in DA2. I guess you could ascribe it to evolution, but he really doesn't evolve in the same direction in DAO as he does in DA2. And I find it very hard to swallow that the only explanation for it is "well...he got better and then he became this really cool guy!". That's probably why I have trouble with him: it's like he's two different characters in the two games. Like Merrill. Although my issues with her are far more extensive than that.

Cullen's DA2 self I can respect, because he does evolve in a positive direction. But then I think back to DAO, and I cannot compute.

Also, I may not be very fond of curly-haired men Posted Image Yes, I'm shallow like that *sigh*

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Haha poor Cullen, you hate his curly hair xDDD

Hey MrFlipFlops, do you think you could make a Fenris banner like that last Isabela banner you made??? I would love a Fen banner that's just... beautiful and surreal like that one.

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Nilf, I'm with you on not getting the Cullen appeal. I did make a female mage just to see his shy stuttery come-on and he is pretty cool in DA2 if the development itself is a bit schizo, but...eh. It just doesn't do anything for me. But I do agree that he is a character with a lot of potential due to his background, so I'll be glad do see him in DA:I. Just ain't convinced on the romance part yet.

No, getting the dragon there is ******-easy, just place Ali in the center and everyone behind the wall - it'll fly to you of its own accord. The tedious part is wheeling out the rangers, since you have to hide them in time before the dragon aggros, all the while keeping Alistair alive and capable of distracting the dragon. The beauty of this strategy is that with clever timing you will only have to heal one person and moving him smartly will reduce the injuries even further.

moto, the last one? Ehm, which one exactly? The longest thin one? I'd be happy to make Fenris banners as well, I just choose the look of them by the art I have available. If you have suggestions then I'm game.

Agh, this dragon discussion reminded of something that always upset me about DAO - only melee fighters get cool kill animations! That's so lame! The boss kill ones are already over-the-top, animating an archer pinning the dragons the wings to the ground and then performing a back-flip headshot wouldn't really stand out. Or a mage lifting it off the ground with lightning bolts. SIGH.

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Nilf, I'm with you on not getting the Cullen appeal. I did make a female mage just to see his shy stuttery come-on and he is pretty cool in DA2 if the development itself is a bit schizo, but...eh. It just doesn't do anything for me. But I do agree that he is a character with a lot of potential due to his background, so I'll be glad do see him in DA:I. Just ain't convinced on the romance part yet.


I fall very firmly in the "I don't get what people see in him" crowd, so you're not alone in that regard.

Agh, this dragon discussion reminded of something that always upset me about DAO - only melee fighters get cool kill animations! That's so lame! The boss kill ones are already over-the-top, animating an archer pinning the dragons the wings to the ground and then performing a back-flip headshot wouldn't really stand out. Or a mage lifting it off the ground with lightning bolts. SIGH.


Slow kill animation would have been neat for archers. I guess they would have to take differing camera angles into account, but it would be nice if you could pull an arrow from the quiver all slow and dramatic, speed up as you notch the arrow, have the game slow almost to a stop as you draw and take aim, (maybe with a dramatic intake of breath) and then have the animation speed up as the arrow flies toward and hits the target right in the eye (whose head flies back and cries out in agony as it gushes blood). Think Mereda from Brave! ^^

A similar principle could be applied with the slow kill for dragons. Only, instead of killing it by plunging a blade into its skull, at the dramatic pause you have your legs wrapped around its neck and fire an arrow into its eye. Probably not practical from a combat standpoint, but it would look and feel pretty cool. (Mages? I don't know, but it can happen.)

Then again, is it just me, or does archery tend to get the shaft in most games? I was thinking about removing DA:O from my computer until I remembered DA:O is the only RPG I own that has decent archery. It's my favorite combat technique in most games but I'm usually forced to play melee or magic just because archery tends to suck. It's halfway decent in DA:O though, so I might replay a Dalish one of these months.

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Miss Greyjoy wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Your name is Tania? Small world, as you can see I really love that name, I usually have one female with some variation of it. Lucky.


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Sorry to barge into your conversation, but that is my name too! How interesting! I wonder if all girls with that name love Fenris? Posted Image


Yes, all the woman named Tania must love Fenris... or in this case Zevran, since that is who my Tania is romancing and she hasn't the foggiest who Fenris is. 

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I remember this being mentioned. Did Gaider confirm this?

Considering Fen spends 7+ years in Kirkwall (and thus away from Danarius) without any visible harmful side-effects, either the negative repercussions of lyrium are grossly exaggerated, or it has a long half-life or something. I wonder if it's possible that it would simply gradually phase out of his system if not maintained?


I haven't heard anything about this from Gaider, or if I have it was long enough ago to be forgotten. This little worry may be half the reason I pair Fen up with my mages all the time, so that if need be they can learn to maintain his markings too.

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Nilf, to weigh in on the dragon strategies. I remember my usual tactic was to send Alistair with all the fire resistance charms into the ruined circle thingy on the edge of the battlefield and place everyone else behind the wall. Leave the healer there, cart the mage and archer-rogue out to take potshots/freeze the dragon while it’s busy chewing on Ali and then quickly hide them again. Kinda tedious, but low-risk and effective!


Jeez, that sounds like a real battle! I just... throw characters at it until it's dead and spam Wynnes revival spell, and use a lot of health poultices. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

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I'm glad Fenris is wherever Hawke is, of course. I just got so damn attached to these characters ... I wanted them all to escape Kirkwall together on Isabela's ship and sail off into destiny. I can't believe that the last shot we get of Hawke is her leaving the Gallows. I mean, Hawke said goodbye to all her friends before the final battle (oh, Fenris, that kiss ...), but I wasn't prepared for my goodbye. *sniffle*

Anyway, my thoughts aren't exactly in order about the game right now, but I totally loved it. I'm sorry for rambling. I feel inspired to go write some fanfic now ... or draw something ... I dunno. Bioware games do this to me.

/emotional rambling

Edit: Found it! Aimo's 'DA2 - Epilogue' comic is the kind of thing I have going on in my head right now. A pretty awesome way to round off the game for us Fenris lovers. :)


Uhg, I had hoped to see something fix this in DLC, but nope. My biggest complaint with DA2 was the extremely awful epilogue. "The Champion did _____, and all the companion left, except for ______. Done."  It was like having a body part severed the bluntness and abruptness of it. Just really unsatisfying.  Aw well, DA: I seemes to be headed in the proper direction.

I also fail to see any appeal in Cullen, I didn't even start up my fam mage to see him flirt, but because I love Fens little "oooh I see someone was a little heartbreaker" line when you see him in the cage. I dunno, I guess it's the same reason I don't respond well to Ali, I just can't see the "omg hooot" side of overly naive and shy males. Meh. Didn't like him in DA2 much either. *shrug* I am more amazed by this huge fanbase that seems to sprung up from him over night. Can't even find a DA:I character speculation thread not swamped in Cullen squee. 'tis remarkable, truly.

I also don't like curly haired men. :?

 am glad that they have the class special kills for Cory in Legacy. I have seem a couple mage class kills for the Arishok but I never remember getting one myself.:(

Hate archery in DA:O, love it in DA: 2. haven't seen it in any other games... Unless me count sniping in ME, which I do.  :P

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Fae, a rule of the internet is "you're never the only one" XDD I'm sure there are plenty more people who are ambivalent about Cullen. It's all a matter of taste after all.

Bull’s eye! That description really hits it, especially the part about the breath. Spot all the lame archery puns
I'm sure some snazzy spell combination can be made for mages. Like pulling the opponent close Revenant-style a smashing a rockfist into their head from above. Or even just a staff combo, like shooting two projectiles from it into each leg and then bashing the enemy's head in. I guess the difficulty with both classes is that there will have to be different combos for different ranges. I think that's the main reason why we didn't get them in DAO.

Archery totally gets the shaft in most games and its inclusion in both DA titles pleases me greatly. I'm more of a mage person, but archery is so rare that it became special and interesting. I really want to see more of it not sucking in RPGs.

Fleshdress, haha, I only come up with convoluted strategies because I suck at everything else XDD My reaction time and attention are execrable, so I use lots of "tactical" pausing, positioning and aggro management, because otherwise my butt gets served to me on a platter. Another reason why I always love the mage classes (actual mages, biotics and techs in ME, hacky-stealthy DE set-ups) they offer me the biggest amount of tactical flexibility, since I need every advantage to get through a level.

YAY FOR class AKNOWLEDGEMENT. Not just in battles (which, too, is cool), but in all parts of the story. I loved it when the Templar in DAO recognised you as one or when a rogue Hawke can throw a dagger right through that slaver's eyeball. There really needs to be more of that stuff.
And as long as we're on the subject of classes, I really hope the Force Mage spec returns in DA:I. I love it because it's new and has untapped potential for brutality :B And needs some tweaking, since some spells are awesomeness and some redundant ****.

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MrFlipFlops wrote...

Fae, a rule of the internet is "you're never the only one" XDD I'm sure there are plenty more people who are ambivalent about Cullen. It's all a matter of taste after all.

Bull’s eye! That description really hits it, especially the part about the breath. Spot all the lame archery puns
I'm sure some snazzy spell combination can be made for mages. Like pulling the opponent close Revenant-style a smashing a rockfist into their head from above. Or even just a staff combo, like shooting two projectiles from it into each leg and then bashing the enemy's head in. I guess the difficulty with both classes is that there will have to be different combos for different ranges. I think that's the main reason why we didn't get them in DAO.

Archery totally gets the shaft in most games and its inclusion in both DA titles pleases me greatly. I'm more of a mage person, but archery is so rare that it became special and interesting. I really want to see more of it not sucking in RPGs.

Fleshdress, haha, I only come up with convoluted strategies because I suck at everything else XDD My reaction time and attention are execrable, so I use lots of "tactical" pausing, positioning and aggro management, because otherwise my butt gets served to me on a platter. Another reason why I always love the mage classes (actual mages, biotics and techs in ME, hacky-stealthy DE set-ups) they offer me the biggest amount of tactical flexibility, since I need every advantage to get through a level.

YAY FOR class AKNOWLEDGEMENT. Not just in battles (which, too, is cool), but in all parts of the story. I loved it when the Templar in DAO recognised you as one or when a rogue Hawke can throw a dagger right through that slaver's eyeball. There really needs to be more of that stuff.
And as long as we're on the subject of classes, I really hope the Force Mage spec returns in DA:I. I love it because it's new and has untapped potential for brutality :B And needs some tweaking, since some spells are awesomeness and some redundant ****.




Love Force mage, almost as much as I love new Bloodmage. Yes, yes I did just impale myself on my staff to power a spell... What of it?

I think it may be warrior only but I really got a kick out of punching that demon in the face.

I am the grumpiest person in the whole entire world. The human only race for DA: I, which yes, I have known for awhile, but it just started bugging me now.<_< I missed the Edmonton comic-con and it was like... a five hour drive away. *froth froth* and my wisdom teeth are coming in stabbing my mouth being evil doing stuff and making me "Grr Arrgh". 

The whole "only human protagonist" news hurts my freaking soul. I really wanted my Elves back. Alas though, it isn't to be. I deeply enjoyed my race acknowledgment in DA:O, which was completely boffed in Skyrim. I guess the humans will still have Origins though, and that effects the story, that could be cool. Can my Origin be that I used to be, and one day will turn back into, an Elf?

Just to clarify cause looking through the new "I hate everything" glasses my last post sounded pretty down on the Cullen fans and it isn't supposed to. I have nothing against Cullen fans, I merely find the elapsed time and fervor in which they emerged to be intriguing. << Does that still sound grumpy? Jeez. I love you Cullen fans, and I am aware you exsist and don't hate you Cullen. :kissing: 

Some Fen to ease the grump.
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Fleshdress, well, Blood Mage was already pretty cool and broken in DAO, but the new stabby animation totally makes it even more ridiculously awesome XDD That's why I want Force Mage to grow some more teeth, since the seeds of its potential are already there. Also, give me the ability to affect non-bipedals too, goddmanit! It's such a derp moment when a mage can toss around a whole room of heavily armoured guards with one wave and then do the damage equivalent of a fart against one lone dragonling. That always pissed me off.

Yeah, demon facepucnh is warrior only and it rules. You know what else rules? REAVER. That spec is so amazing in DA2, Kas could solo anything and cut giant pride demons to shreds before his health reached critical levels. And then he ate them. BEAT THAT.

As long as whatever choice we are given in the game is acknowledged I'll be a happy potato. Race choices were awesome, but not because they were race choices, but because they offered different perspectives and reactions. If that is achieved some other way, I won't complain. But still, here a lil' someth'n' to cheer you up.
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Ogod, it's that ugly Hawke comic again. Poor Fenris. That's gonna be some rude awakening...Might actually get him to quit drinking.

MrFlipFlops wrote...

Agh, this dragon discussion reminded of something that always upset me about DAO - only melee fighters get cool kill animations! That's so lame! The boss kill ones are already over-the-top, animating an archer pinning the dragons the wings to the ground and then performing a back-flip headshot wouldn't really stand out. Or a mage lifting it off the ground with lightning bolts. SIGH.


Well, Hawke gets an ogre-killing sequence at the very beginning of the game. And a Rock Wraith killing sequence as well. And they're different with each class.

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I am the grumpiest person in the whole entire world. The human only race for DA: I, which yes, I have known for awhile, but it just started bugging me now.Posted Image I missed the Edmonton comic-con and it was like... a five hour drive away. *froth froth* and my wisdom teeth are coming in stabbing my mouth being evil doing stuff and making me "Grr Arrgh".

The whole "only human protagonist" news hurts my freaking soul. I really wanted my Elves back. Alas though, it isn't to be. I deeply enjoyed my race acknowledgment in DA:O, which was completely boffed in Skyrim. I guess the humans will still have Origins though, and that effects the story, that could be cool. Can my Origin be that I used to be, and one day will turn back into, an Elf?


D: I didn't know about this.

*siiiiiigh* Welp, first impressions of DA3 are now negative ones. So much for hoping.

Seriously though (and this despite my current profile pic..she won't be up for long), if I had been given an origin choice, human would be my dead last pick. My two favourite Wardens are an elf and a dwarf, and all my BG and NWN characters are either elves or half-elves. I just find human characters so boring. What's the point of playing a fantasy game if you can't experiment with more exotic lifeforms? I'm already human, I know all about it.

As for Force Mage...I guess it would be fun. If it actually had any spells that, y'know...dealt damage. Rather than all doing essentially the same thing.

And my commiserations about the wisdom teeth Posted Image

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Nilf, yeah, but that is of little comfort to a person taking her level 25 Archmage through DAO, watching with a green glint in the eyes as all the melee people look cool while I drool. I do find solace in the mage-specific intimidation dialogues. The archers are just screwed all around on the class recognition spectrum.

For what its worth, the fantasy racial dimorphism is not that varied, it's the culture and circumstances that give us the spice of variety. It's not the same as playing a hanar in ME, that would be totally different from a human. My point is, while the absence of race options is always sad it doesn't necessarily mean an absence of exoticism. Different perspectives and settings can be explored in many other ways. Maybe you can look forward to that :"D I'm just trying to keep people's spirits up, since being gloomy and complain-y ain't fun *said Flippy as she cried bitter tears atop her algebra mid-term practice sheet*

That's exactly what I meant about the FM. It has awesome potential beyond being crowd control that wasn’t realised in the game, which I hope will be unlocked in DA:I. Please.
Plus, I like things that look great and damn me if it ain't a spectacle to watch my mage lift a room of mooks and then smash them on the floor with a crunching sound. Too bad it doesn't do that much damage, I'd have thought that having massive internal hemorrhaging would be bad for you...

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Mage-specific intimidation dialogues?

MrFlipFlops wrote...

For what its worth, the fantasy racial dimorphism is not that varied, it's the culture and circumstances that give us the spice of variety. It's not the same as playing a hanar in ME, that would be totally different from a human. My point is, while the absence of race options is always sad it doesn't necessarily mean an absence of exoticism. Different perspectives and settings can be explored in many other ways. Maybe you can look forward to that :"D I'm just trying to keep people's spirits up, since being gloomy and complain-y ain't fun *said Flippy as she cried bitter tears atop her algebra mid-term practice sheet*


Oh, I don't mind morphology or anything. It's precisely the cultural aspects that I miss. Elves, dwarves, qunari, they all have their distinct culture(s) which is/are different from the human characters. It's not the fact that dwarves are short that makes them interesting to me. And it's not the fact that-...ok, no, I have to admit that I do have a pointy-ear fetish as far as elves are concerned. Posted Image

Also, algebra = WARGL

That's exactly what I meant about the FM. It has awesome potential beyond being crowd control that wasn’t realised in the game, which I hope will be unlocked in DA:I. Please.
Plus, I like things that look great and damn me if it ain't a spectacle to watch my mage lift a room of mooks and then smash them on the floor with a crunching sound. Too bad it doesn't do that much damage, I'd have thought that having massive internal hemorrhaging would be bad for you...


I know, right? Ahh, logic, such a fleeting notion.

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