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[aldien]

renjility wrote...

aldien wrote...

You mean you don't like this Fae?

*Snip*

A little bigger. Just a squinch. They look a bit beady. Is beady the correct word? I don't know. Yes, I think that rendition of him looks better than the in game Fenris.

I come stumbling back into this thread only to see THIS. Dear Maker, I will never be able to unsee that. Thanks for the nightmares, aldien.

I do my best. And now you have just encouraged me. Of course finding an excuse to take a break from baking fifty gingerbread for my daughter's 1st grade class might be a big unfluential factor in it all.

*Fenris bows* Welcome to my world of wonders! I have combed the far reaches of the Internet to bring you the rarest, most inexplicable pictures known to the Fenris forum.



The enchanting dwarf! Few can resist his lucky charms



I give you the the bearded lady with only a mustache!



The infamous dragon lady!



And that's all I could find... for now >:}

Modifié par aldien, 18 décembre 2012 - 04:42 .

[Harle Cerulean]

Hi, folks! Just thought I'd pop in to mention David Gaider's most recent Tumblr post, about his favourite Dragon Age characters.  Guess who made the list? :happy: 

[coldwetn0se]

@Harle - nice find! Thanks for posting.

@aldy - ohhh...look at the pretties! *cheesy-arse grin* o.o XD

[Dutchess]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@Ren - no, no. *pets the big bug-eyed Fenris pic* It's BEAUTIFUL.

I swear I haven't been drinking........recently.

I just.... can't stop staring at it. It's so horrible and yet so enchanting!

@ aldy: heh, Fenris actually pulls off the hat and monocle look very well.

@ Harle: thanks for the link. Gaider's posts tend to annoy me a little, because he seems to dismiss many of the critical comments about the writing of the games and the characters involved (like he does now about Isabela's armor or lack thereof) but it's nice to read something about Fenris again. New thing learned: Gaider doesn't like Fenris' spiky armor look. Or used to. I guess he was saying he likes it now?

[aldien]

Thanks for the link Harle.

Ren you are back. What rock you been hiding under?

I was extremely surprised to see Fenris on that list. Here's the funny thing. You know how it took many of us time to warm up to Fenris? After reading Gaider's comments, I wondered if he went through the same process? I know that sounds stupid since he created him but what he said reminded me of what many of my friends said after they played the game a few times. It took time to understand the depth of the character and to accept his flaws and good points alike. It's like a scientific discovery. You make one and don't actually understand what you've found until you study it longer. Most people romanced Anders straight away and many people I have talked to didn't have the patience with Fenris the first time around. He does play hard to get and at times it does feel like you are getting nowhere. He sticks to his beliefs and can't easily be coerced into changing them. I think some people hate that because you can't manipulate him. You can meta game, but Fenris has a mind and he uses it and sexy legs and smoldering stares and probably a great big...

Once you get past the hump (shush Coldy about my innuendo), there's no going back. Not for me anyway and I love Alistair to bits, but Fenris is da man spikes and all. I'll shushies now.

Modifié par aldien, 19 décembre 2012 - 12:31 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

@aLDIEN...How am to practice proper anatomy when I suddenly see Fenris in a monocle, top-hat and mustache. Gaaaah, must draw...like a serah!

Also if any of you even care to play WoW...apparently in the new expansion Mr. Emery is playing another Broody high lord elf. *clasps hands evilly*

[coldwetn0se]

Actually, I was smitten the MINUTE I heard his voice. Rog and I have been together for 25 years, and when I first played DA2, the elf comes into view and rips the slaver mooks heart out, then speaks.....my husband looks at me and says, "Yup! He's the one, isn't he." That man knows me too well. LOL XD

So for me, I didn't need to grow into his character, he was right up my alley from the get go. And then I was delighted at how the romance progressed. I admit that I had PLANNED on romancing Anders when I first bought DA2, but that got quickly abandoned once Fenris stepped into the spotlight. Have only managed to romance Ander's once, and that was after romancing Fenris about five times prior, and a number of them after.....yeah! I'm a broken record.

[Nilfalasiel]

*blinks*

Nekkid Sandal and biker-Hitler Merrill broke my brain.

*keeps blinking*

Back on track, about Gaider's comments, I laughed that he brought up Fen's posture issues.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 19 décembre 2012 - 10:56 .

[aldien]

Ghost_Nappa wrote...

@aLDIEN...How am to practice proper anatomy when I suddenly see Fenris in a monocle, top-hat and mustache. Gaaaah, must draw...like a serah!

Also if any of you even care to play WoW...apparently in the new expansion Mr. Emery is playing another Broody high lord elf. *clasps hands evilly*

Fenris is one classy ****. He'd make a great butler or ringleader. I can't decide which. It's kind of fetching.

What's a serah anyway? And what part of the anatomy are you practicing *waggles eyebrows*

Ren is still MIA

Coldy, first time I played I didn't meet Fenris. The second time I was more concerned with trying a new class and then got dragged into loving mages and then realized Anders was off his rocker. Third time, I finally figured out I could romance him. Duh. *smells cookies*

*hugs Fae* It's virtual but still heartfelt. I know someone who loves Fenris because he has the lyrium scarring. She unfortunately was in a car wreck at an early age and well... you can figure out the rest. She struggled and still does at times with some of the same issues. There was a time when she used to believe no one could possibly find her attractive. But now she's married and has a kidlet. One of the reasons she loves Hawke so much, is because Hawke looks past Fenris's scars and the attention they must attract, though it's not really portrayed in the game. All I can say is if you ever wanted to see unconditional love portrayed in a game that would be Hawke and Fenris imo. Okay done being cheesy. It's Christmas damn it!

Hmmm Merril's mustache reminded me of Charlie Chaplin. wierdly enough. The one that you thought looks like a biker I thought looked more like a stereotypical Kung Fu master. Everyone sees something different I guess. Isn't life grand?

Modifié par aldien, 19 décembre 2012 - 04:09 .

[Nilfalasiel]

aldien wrote...

Hmmm Merril's mustache reminded me of Charlie Chaplin. weirdly enough. The one that you thought looks like a biker I thought looked more like a stereotypical Kung Fu master. Everyone sees something different I guess. Isn't life grand?

Oh yeahhh, kung fu master. Yeah, that makes more sense than a biker. The other one still looks like Hitler to me though.

Edit: As for what "serah" is, well, BW appear to be using it a respectful form of address (like "Mr" or "Ms"), and I suspect it's the longer form of "ser". The thing is, both words are made up. "Sirrah" was used in Renaissance English (as a derogatory term), but, to my knowledge, "serah" or "ser" didn't exist. BW may have decided to create that spelling to transform it into a unisex word, since it's used for both men and women (cf. Ser Cauthrien or Serah Hawke).

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 19 décembre 2012 - 11:02 .

[Ghost_Nappa]

@Aldien

Lets just say Im trying to practice to get to this level of anatomy

However with my spouse' tablet pen not working...I fear I might have to buy them a new one and work back on paper.

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

Ren you are back. What rock you been hiding under?

A big'un.   Honestly I didn't like the circumstances undr which you had to leave, so I was kinda done with the thread for a while after that. But now you're back! Although that bug-eyed Fenris still haunts me.... 

I'm going to counter that with some old Fenris sim screenies. 





Now I want to fire up The Sims and shoot more silly pictures. I found a pose box with sexy poses, so I can make my own love scene now! 

[Flemmy]

Helen0rz wrote...

 

i know someone on dA did it but I don't know who did it.

ONE BIIG!!! LOL!!!

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

aldien wrote...

Ren you are back. What rock you been hiding under?

A big'un.   Honestly I didn't like the circumstances undr which you had to leave, so I was kinda done with the thread for a while after that. But now you're back! Although that bug-eyed Fenris still haunts me.... 

I'm going to counter that with some old Fenris sim screenies. 





Now I want to fire up The Sims and shoot more silly pictures. I found a pose box with sexy poses, so I can make my own love scene now! 

Thank you Ren. I appreciate your undying love for me I am back! You are going to wish I wasn't soon enough

Is Fenris waiting in Hawke's mansion in the first one? Damn, why can't get my Fen sim to carry around portable wine?

He's posing for Vogue in the second. But what is with the lace?

Bug-eyed Fenris is just a mutant Tarsier. See:

https://encrypted-tb...XpnD69N2GvG-e2Q



LOL! Now you have two pictures to be creeped out over.

Thank you Nilf for the explanation

Ghost... just no. That picture disturbs me more than bug-eyed Fenris and Fu Manchu Merrill. Ahhh I like that one. Fu Manchu Merrill. It's got a nice rhyme to it.

You have to wonder how Hawke's undies didn't get shredded by Fenris's claws. I hope they were the undies he stole from her top dwarer and not the ones she wore that night. Ewwwww :/

Modifié par aldien, 20 décembre 2012 - 06:31 .

[Roxy]

Sooo it was Hawkes panties all along...hope he has cleaned it since then bleh....or took a clean one...

LOL Anyways,glad to know Gaider likes Fenris! ^^

Merry Christmas and Happy New year to you all if I don't come back in here in the next week or so!




*gasps* There's a mistletoe beside Fenris...dibs!!!!! lol

[coldwetn0se]

Aldy you and Ren find some of the best pics....want some Prosecco? Pych! already gone! XD

Can I have Fen + Mistletoe after you are finished, Rox? Pwease?

Ok, Fen m'lad! I am JUST about finished with my latest CE in DAO (god I love the new Zev mods I got....*smiles!*). That means, i am gonna make a new Hawke for you (who else would I make it for....duh!) *snicker* Will be with you soon, ya broody beast! XD

[Amirit]

Wow, Ren, you found a picture where Fenris looks like one actress - and totally not like Fenris Still cool though.

Now, I came from my hiding place (it's KOTOR this time, and, while I am on it - no, Carth is not a whiny cry baby) with a question totally unrelated to anything. Well, slightly to ME.

I want to ask your opinion - yes, all of you - about Drew Karpyshyn novels. You are all writers here. May be you count yourself as amateurs, still, you do write and sure can tell a good writing from a bad one. Now, English is not my first language. And for me (as for a foreigner) Karpyshyn's writing looks horrible: it's dry, heavy and too detailed where it should not be (like pages and pages describing one short fight in every single detail). Also, Karpyshyn's vocabulary looks to me like someone is trying to translate his writing from whatever language it was written on to English using the least appropriate dictionary, and because of it explaining every word to avoid misreading.
I am talking only about technical side of the novels, not the content. Only about wording, language itself, the writing style.

So, the question is - is it my English and in fact Karpyshyn is a brilliant writer, or is he really as bad as I see it?

Little something to make it more on topic  

Modifié par Amirit, 22 décembre 2012 - 05:21 .

[Roxy]

coldwetn0se wrote...
Can I have Fen + Mistletoe after you are finished, Rox? Pwease?

Sure you can have Fenris and the mistletoe....after all it is close to Christmas why not share,just be gentle with him Coldi lol!

[coldwetn0se]

Amirit wrote...

Wow, Ren, you found a picture where Fenris looks like one actress - and totally not like Fenris Still cool though.

Now, I came from my hiding place (it's KOTOR this time, and, while I am on it - no, Carth is not a whiny cry baby) with a question totally unrelated to anything. Well, slightly to ME.

I want to ask your opinion - yes, all of you - about Drew Karpyshyn novels. You are all writers here. May be you count yourself as amateurs, still, you do write and sure can tell a good writing from a bad one. Now, English is not my first language. And for me (as for a foreigner) Karpyshyn's writing looks horrible: it's dry, heavy and too detailed where it should not be (like pages and pages describing one short fight in every single detail). Also, Karpyshyn's vocabulary looks to me like someone is trying to translate his writing from whatever language it was written on to English using the least appropriate dictionary, and because of it explaining every word to avoid misreading.
I am talking only about technical side of the novels, not the content. Only about wording, language itself, the writing style.

So, the question is - is it my English and in fact Karpyshyn is a brilliant writer, or is he really as bad as I see it?

Little something to make it more on topic  

I personally have not read any of the books relating to ME or DA.  I generally prefer to keep the extra media out of my games, simply because if something doesn't match up (in-game), I get frustrated...LOL.  So it is easier to just avoid the books, comics, animated films and such....As for how you reacted to Drew's writing style; everyone can have a different reaction to certain writing styles.  I am required to write a lot of technical and/or more objective pieces (for work and some blog writing), so when I am writing stories, dialogue or most forum posts, I tend to be very "conversational" with my writing. I do believe some writers can get a bit wrapped up in descriptions.  Sometimes, less is more.  Whether English not being your first language has an impact, I would guess it could.  But, it may be as simple as, "he's just not your cup o' tea." 


@Roxy - thanks for the "gift"

[aldien]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Aldy you and Ren find some of the best pics....want some Prosecco? Pych! already gone! XD

Can I have Fen + Mistletoe after you are finished, Rox? Pwease?

Ok, Fen m'lad! I am JUST about finished with my latest CE in DAO (god I love the new Zev mods I got....*smiles!*). That means, i am gonna make a new Hawke for you (who else would I make it for....duh!) *snicker* Will be with you soon, ya broody beast! XD

Do you often talk to Fenris?

And can I lick his candy cane?

Sorry Amirit. I have no idea who Drew Karpyshyn is to be honest. I inferred from Coldy's post that it is an ME writer? Like Coldy, I read nothing outside of the DA game. I'm to the point now where I will rarely read any writer's opinion of their own characters because it breaks the illusion in game. I doubt English as a second language has little to do with your dislike of the writing unless their is tons of slang in the book. It's probably down to preference.

Modifié par aldien, 23 décembre 2012 - 06:56 .

[coldwetn0se]

Yup! I talk to Fenris, Thane, Zevran, Ali......I'm a crazy old broad who's lost her marbles...(still have my brain, but I can't find my damn marbles!)

I swear, when I really get into one of my wardens, Hawkes or Shepards, I get VERY wrapped up in the story I am molding. So, might as well talk to the 'toons, eh? XD

How's your holidays going so far, Aldy? Wanna cookie? I've got too many of them. Whole house smells like a damn cookie.

[Amirit]

What a healthy attitude, Coldy and Aldien! I wish I was that strong.
Guess, I spent too much time on ME part of the forums and assumed that everyone in the world are familiar with Karpishin's work (after all, he wrote some SW stories too and now is writing some fantasy novel unrelated to the games)

In case of ME there are so many plot holes, lore is so fragile, that you do want to get some explanations wherever you can find them (and ME books do work like an enhanced codex). Ok, would remember now, that this place is an oasis of normal people who do not read bad game-novels and keep their mind safe

[aldien]

*Takes Cookie* What kind did you make today?

My holiday is going well. How about you? I take it you are a baking fiend. We made gingerbread men today. They were great until my daughter insisted on putting crappy icing on the excellent gingerbread. Six year old children have no taste buds. It's official.


To be fair, instead of talking to Ali, Zev and Fen I tend to have those verbal emotional statements like: Awwwww and Zev you are so naughty and why isn't there a mod to make Fenris naked?

Amirit I read bad novels. I think if these novels were not part of a game where I have seen, heard and participated in the characters development I would give them a read. The problem, for me, is that I have personalized the characters to my taste. Just like Coldy said, I get wrapped up in the story and it does not conform to the writer's view. It is a very unique experience and I can't imagine how irritating it must be to write a character, create a world and then have people mess around with it. But writers must know that when their work is meant for a roleplaying game. So... if they stomp and shout after they have written for a game that it isn't what they envisioned, I have little sympathy. The whole idea is that you manipulate the environment and characters to your liking. At the core they are the writer's invention, but once they are set free within a gaming universe then there is no control over what people do to them.

Anyway, I'm talking pants. There is nothing unhealthy about reading novels based on the game or vice versa. But I think since you have experienced the story visually and participated in it that it would be hard to separate that from the novel. It's setting people up for disappointment in my opinion. Just like movies rarely live up to classic novels.

[Enkidu]

Amirit, they really aren't very good. They're not terrible per se, but nothing to write home about either. The same with the DA books. Writing for video games and writing novels are two different things. I mean, Drew practically created the ME universe and I think everyone here would agree that when it comes to making character for games Gaider is the man. But their novels are bit too dry and literal, since the medium is different. I think they're just not used to it any more.

To piggyback on the current discussion, I read all supplemental material because when I like a world I'm basically a stalker for it. I must know all the things. It's not irritating for me, I think, because the only things I personalise are my own characters. Excessively, as you might be aware. As in, months of writing. Yay, priorities. So if a DA book suddenly featured Kassander Hawke (hahahaha) liking fish I'd flip my ****, but that is as likely to happen as me building a functioning rocket out of tissue paper. The actual characters in the game world that aren't the PC? I don't personalise them anymore than I personalise my friends or anyone around me. Sure, I have my own interpretations ("Ah, he probably did that thing because of x!"), but nothing more. Due to that, if some of my assumptions are proven incorrect I just treat it as such - I was wrong, it happens. Same when I thought a friend of mine liked power metal turned out not to like anything that heavy. I interpreted her tastes incorrectly, she didn't actually change. But you are all right that these games are a very personal experience, so however you decide to actually experience them is right for you.

Ahhh, it's so good to be back! Dang uni, with it's exams and useless term papers. Bah, who needs a degree if it keeps you from the interwebs?!

aldien, I am very glad that you started posting again. It's really delightful to see you back. Just wanted to say that))

Happy Holidays, everyone! And lots of Fenris-y goodness!

Modifié par MrFlipFlops, 24 décembre 2012 - 01:42 .