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[coldwetn0se]

Time for a bit more pic spamming, but I SWEAR...I'll stop.  After this.  For now. Take a break. Pause, if you will. Simmer down now......

Just completed the Castor Hawke run *sniff*.  He was beautiful. So naturally  I have steamy kissing scenes to post.....DUH!

[Dutchess]

Haha, nice ToP, coldy! Those are some hot shots.

aldien wrote...

Personally, I think the Fenris movie makers should focus on recreating one scene: the sex scene with Fenris and Hawke, except with more nudity and lots of sounds that you can hear!

:lol: I've got no adequate comment to that.

Look, that's what people want to see. Sex will attract attention and if the movie is limited to one scene then it will cost less and hopefully they can pay better attention to detail.

LOL, you do have a point. At least that they should keep it small and not aim for a whole movie. Otherwise it's too much work and apparently too expensive as well. They want it to be a love story about Hawke and Fenris anyway, so best to do some nice scenes between them and leave the dragon thing out.

Strangely, the first thing I noticed about Fenris was the missing tattoos. I'll splurge and buy them some Tipp-ex if they want.

I don't think that's strange at all. The markings are what defines Fenris' appearance. They are pretty much the first thing you see, they really stand out.

Oh.... and he is white :/ Fenris isn't white.

LOL, well, he ain't black either. Perhaps its winter and Fenris has been hiding in his dark mansion for a long time.

ROFL! I've never had the privilege of seeing the floating animals or the vertically determined suicide.

Really? I thought it was quite a common bug. I've even read about floating mammoths, which I think is absolutely hilarious. I was a bit bummed at the odd suicide though. I mean, I kill three Imperials to save him from the executioner's block, and then he kills himself?! That's no way to show gratitude!

coldwetn0se wrote...

Okay, not sure what I just watched. (the Fenris/Hawke movie trailer....supposedly). Have decided to refrain from critiquing, for.....reasons. 

D'awwww, not even one word of critique? Not even an "ummmmm" like aldien? Nothing at all. Such restraint.

Do you Friendmance or Rivalmance Fenris? If yes to both, do you prefer one over the other, and why? When not romancing Fenris (if you so dare...LOL), then do you prefer the Friend path or the Rival path? And finally, do you find you come up with specific reasons as to why this or that particular Hawke chose to Friendmance or Rivalmance Fenris (examples are most welcome.)? 

I've only done a friendmance and a rivalmance once. Well, I rivalmanced him with my blood mage as well, but she handed him over to Danarius, so that doesn't really count  (yup, she was reaaaalllly evil). The friendmance was on my first playthrough and quite a while ago, so it is more foggy than the rivalmance. I think rivalmance can work really well, but it does need a bit more effort to make it fit. Fenris is very easy to rival with always aggressive responses and doing things to ****** him off, but then I think it gets a bit too angry with that. Also, Fenris heavily in love with someone who jsut got himself a slave? No. So I based my rivalmance more on disagreeing about things than on Hawke being aggressive all the time. He was actually snarky/diplo, and since Hawke was a mage, I think it worked really well and was very believable yet romantic. 

I do agree with maymay that Fenris' reaction to his gifts is less fun. When rivaled he refuses the offer of reading lessons. I'm not sure why. Does he find it too humiliating with a rival Hawke, due to pride and admiration playing a larger part in such a relationship? Whatever the reason, I don't like it. It makes the rivalmance lose part of its intimacy and romance.
His reaction to the sword is more understandable, but it does send the message that in a rivalry relationship Fenris remains more angry and bitter throughout the game, despite his realization that he is responsible for most of his recent suffering and that he has to overcome his hatred in the end. Perhaps again it has to do with pride: Fenris respects Hawke's strength and capabilities and by that is constanty reminded of the state of his own life as an escaped slave on the run. That then leads to more anger and resentment in Fenris, for feeling a lesser person, less able to take control of his own life and do what he wants. Woah, rant alert.


@ maymay: another lovely screenshot! Fenris and Hawke reading, so sweet.

coldwetn0se wrote...

Well!  @Ren may have a better list than I, on who does commissions for Fenris x Hawke, but I think I could come up with a few.  I still am interested in having a comic panel done for Fenris x Castor.  Could be fun...and 'saucy'.

Eh? Are you talking about me? Commissions? Where? I'm a cheapskate, I haven't paid for any Fenris art. Other people commission and when the artist is so kind to upload the work upon completion, I add it to my favourites. I don't know if it's of any use, but this is the link to my Dragon Age favourites: http://soapsim.devia...urites/49459108

It's not Fenris-exclusive, but the majority is Fenris art.:innocent: Many artists seem to have done commissions at some point, though I wouldn't know if they're open at the moment.
morovv
elfkin
Venhedis-fastavass

These are the ones who most recently have uploaded a commission.

Oh, it's Valentine's Days today! Here then a card from aimo:

[Dutchess]

Oh, aldien (and potential other sims 3 players)! I don't know if you're still into your Fenris sim, but there are lyrium markings for Sims 3: http://kiwisims.tumb...-for-the-sims-3
Enjoy!

[maymay1588]

renjility wrote...

Oh, aldien (and potential other sims 3 players)! I don't know if you're still into your Fenris sim, but there are lyrium markings for Sims 3: http://kiwisims.tumb...-for-the-sims-3
Enjoy!

Lol! That is the design I followed for Sky-Fenris. 

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

Oh, aldien (and potential other sims 3 players)! I don't know if you're still into your Fenris sim, but there are lyrium markings for Sims 3: http://kiwisims.tumb...-for-the-sims-3
Enjoy!

Ren, you said to me many moons ago that if they ever created markings for the Sims 3 you would buy it. You remember? Muwahahahaha... That was the other Fenris news I had  to offer up. There was the movie trailor and the sims markings. LOL! My bad memory thanks you for posting the link.

Thank you Coldy for the coat information. I will be using that on my next pt. Starting an Origins and going straight through to DA2. Castor is hot as always. You know he's my favorite It may just be me, but do you find something goofy about the default male Hawke? When I see him in comics he looks like a guy with a good sense of humor. Marian Hawke looks mischievous.

Maymay summed up what I think about Fenris friendmance. I rivalmanced him once and only got halfway through before I started over. I want to be his sex slave not ****** him off though hmmm... that might have possibilities. I'll also have you know, Ren that according to the message Fae sent, which I just now found (sorry Fae) someone else on the forum was also perplexed by the size of a human versus the size of an elf and how certain body parts would fit together. See I'm not the only weirdo

Okay piccies...

First is Mooseh and my mug. Fear him! It did not end up being printed how I wanted but at $20 a mug (which is a complete rip off) I decided to keep it. It sits on my desk and reminds that I want a drink.



Also Valentine's Day! yay!

Though something funny might be nice this year. Personally I think the circle should be muuuuuuuuuch bigger.



by ~FREYA-TheAristocrat

*going to eat my chocolate and wait for Ren to complain because she must buy Sims 3)

Couldn't resist because it made me giggle.




by ~LadyRedDarkness

Pic spam over.

Modifié par aldien, 14 février 2013 - 06:09 .

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

renjility wrote...

Oh, aldien (and potential other sims 3 players)! I don't know if you're still into your Fenris sim, but there are lyrium markings for Sims 3: http://kiwisims.tumb...-for-the-sims-3
Enjoy!

Ren, you said to me many moons ago that if they ever created markings for the Sims 3 you would buy it. You remember? Muwahahahaha... That was the other Fenris news I had  to offer up. There was the movie trailor and the sims markings. LOL! My bad memory thanks you for posting the link.

And here I thought I had a surprise for you. If you already have them, where are the sim Fen pics you promised? I'm still waiting!

And I soooo never said I would buy Sims 3. You're just making stuff up! Even with markings, Sims 3 sims still have those weird, puffy balloon faces. Nuh uh, I'm sticking to this:

Okay piccies...

First is Mooseh and my mug. Fear him! It did not end up being printed how I wanted but at $20 a mug (which is a complete rip off) I decided to keep it. It sits on my desk and reminds that I want a drink.

*snip*

That mug is so awesome! How cute!  What is it you had wanted differently about it?

*going to eat my chocolate and wait for Ren to complain because she must buy Sims 3)

You didn't have to wait long.




:innocent:

[maymay1588]

Happy Valentine's Day!

I guess I will share this, but might make something special in Skyrim later.



@aldien;

First off, BEST COFFEE MUG EVER!

The second image needs a warning message stating: May cause nose bleeds and uncontrollable blush.

And must have Merrill's Fen-doll. *Sends Hawke to retrieve it*

@renjility;
Very nice Sims Fenris, alas I don't have that game 

Modifié par maymay1588, 14 février 2013 - 06:29 .

[Enkidu]

Hello again everyone! I have been silently stalking the thread for now, since RL was too busy beating me with a stick, but it's gotten too **** now to be worth dealing with. I need to be in a place that's actually nice for a change and what can be better than the Fen Thread?

Jumping right in on some of the stuff I missed...
To quickly weigh in on the friendmance/rivalmance deali-o... I don't have any particular problems with either, which is new, since most rivalmances in the game tick me off for various reasons, but at the end of the day the friendmance would be my pick for the simple reason of it being the one that fits the character that I wrote for Fen. However, I could see myself writing one that would go for the rival path and enjoying it. I think both have about equal merit and development. Fen is just perfect that way, I suppose.

@aldy, HOLY MAKER DAT MUG. 20$ does sound like ripoff, but I still think you got your money's worth in the end. Now I want to make one... Preferably something naughty and have it made on one of those mugs that only have the picture become visible when you pour something hot in them. Oh, the glorious metaphor...

And guess what! In repentance for my long absence, I come bearing gifts! And by "gifts" I mean screenshots. Oh, the sass.

[Dutchess]

 @ maymay: yay, another nice Valentine image! I like the text, did you come up with this? Shame you don't have Sims 2, or I could have exchanged my sim Fen for you sky Fen. :happy: Since Sims 3 Sims 2 has become a lot cheaper, so if you're realy curious to try it, it probably wouldn't cost that much. It does custom content to make the sims look good (Maxis skin, hair and eyes = bleh), but the modding community is great and ten years after release the quality is amazing. LOL, alright, so far my attempt to get another person to play Sims, haha.
@ FlipFlops: Flippy! You're back too! Long time no see.  Pity you're so busy. *offers virtual hug* Hang in there, I'm sure things will quiet down eventually. A Fenris eye roll screenshot! Your absence is forgiven. 

This page is really a pic spam page by now, but somebody has drawn me fanart based on my story, and because I think that's awesome you all have to see it. 


Ookamikuro

Modifié par renjility, 15 février 2013 - 09:53 .

[maymay1588]

@renjility;
Yeah, the text was the first thing that came to mind. I hadn't planned to make it, but I just installed DAO and DA2 on my new gaming laptop and was testing the graphics with it. Needless to say, loving this new laptop.

Wait story...? *Notices your signature* Someone has a lot of reading to do. *Squeals with girlish delight at the thought of reading new Fen stories*

@MrFlipFlops;
Yes, we should all have one made and show it off on the thread lol!

[ReddInTheCities]

@maymay1588 I can vouch for Ren's story, it's pretty cool.

I've got one going too, but I hate it right now so I won't link it until I'm happy with it again.

[Dutchess]

 Ooh, potential new reader! Yay! Perhaps I should turn my signature into a brightly flashing banner in all colors of the rainbow... LOL. I bet that would drive everybody insane. 
Why is it suddenly so quiet here again? I think aldien is hiding because she promised like a year ago she would read my story and still hasn't (or she did and she hated it, ha). It's okay, aldy! I understand.
@ Redd: oh, thank you!


Okay, let's see what we can talk about. Perhaps another question for the newer posters (old ones are welcome to rehash their opinion as well^_^): what do you do with Varania in Fenris' Alone quest? Do you let him kill her or persuade him to let her go? And why?

To me it seems better to let her live, even though she has a pretty nasty revelation for Fenris if you do. Despite her betrayal, I think it would weigh heavily on Fenris' conscience that he killed her. Perhaps not even so much because of who she was, but because it further confirms the image he has of himself as someone who has been made with the purpose to kill. He has had his revenge on the two people that mattered. Letting his sister go is showing him that he is able to break his "habit", that, with Danarius gone, he can overcome his hatred and anger. 
I also find it quite a sad idea that Fenris would more or less make Leto's sacrifice meaningless by killing her. His old self competed to have her and their mother freed from slavery. He paid a very high price for that, and if he kills Varania, it was all for nothing. Even is she is ungrateful for it, even if she doesn't appreciate it, as long as she lives there is prove that his markings served another person besides killing.

Ahum, that's enough of my philosophical rambling.


maruhana-bachi

[Nilfalasiel]

renjility wrote...

To me it seems better to let her live, even though she has a pretty nasty revelation for Fenris if you do. Despite her betrayal, I think it would weigh heavily on Fenris' conscience that he killed her. Perhaps not even so much because of who she was, but because it further confirms the image he has of himself as someone who has been made with the purpose to kill. He has had his revenge on the two people that mattered. Letting his sister go is showing him that he is able to break his "habit", that, with Danarius gone, he can overcome his hatred and anger. 
I also find it quite a sad idea that Fenris would more or less make Leto's sacrifice meaningless by killing her. His old self competed to have her and their mother freed from slavery. He paid a very high price for that, and if he kills Varania, it was all for nothing. Even is she is ungrateful for it, even if she doesn't appreciate it, as long as she lives there is prove that his markings served another person besides killing.

Pretty much this. Varania is far from a model sister, but violence breeds violence, and Fenris will solve absolutely nothing by killing her. He'll only entrench himself in the "human weapon" role that Danarius has tried to pin on him. A lot of his development centres around becoming his own person and breaking the habits that his former master has instilled in him, and learning not to systematically resort to violence is part of that development. Besides, for what it's worth, Varania is his only remaining family; as Varric says, he might very well regret it later (unsurprisingly, I always cure Bartrand and let him live, as well). He once loved her and his mother enough to undergo horrible torture to save them. If he killed her now, no matter how ungrateful she is, he'd be destroying what he loved and the one remaining link to who he once was. Yes, he needs to move on from that, but severing these ties with such brutality would leave traces. Indelible ones.

That picture is...horrible, by the way. I don't mean the artistry, which is awesome, it's just...utterly chilling.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 20 février 2013 - 03:12 .

[ReddInTheCities]

I always let her live. I'm not very good at wall o' text explanations, but I'll try and give you my reasoning as best as I can, especially since I'll be exploring this theme later in the fic that I'm writing.

Varania certainly doesn't win any Sister of the Year awards, but I try and see things from her side. Mother dies and leaves her alone, with no support system to speak of, and from what I've read of elven culture they're very family-centric. Maybe even more so if they're originally from Seheron, which is orders of magnitude rougher than Minrathous will ever be.

Add to that the fact that Minrathous pretty much breeds desperation. Other parts of the Imperium might not be as bad, especially IMO the southern end, but Minrathous seems like the stronghold for everything the Imperium stands for: magisters, slavery, abject poverty on the parts of everyone not lucky enough to be a magister or otherwise attached to one.

It wouldn't surprise me then, that given a chance to ascend the social ladder despite her race and former servitude, Varania would jump at the chance to sell out a brother who neither recognizes nor cares for her - it'd be no different than turning in a stranger.

Then she gets to Kirkwall, sits down at the Hanged Man, and meets Fenris, a face she hasn't seen in at least nine years(three for his pre DAII flight, 3 for Act I 3 for Act II, plus however long it's been since the ritual), and realizes she's made the biggest mistake of her life. Suddenly he's not Fenris in her eyes, but Leto, the little boy she loved.

I feel like my Hawke, who's lost all his/her family in some way shape or form, couldn't let that stand. My Hawke would consider the possibility of their eventual reconciliation paramount to any anger Fenris would feel at being denied his due.

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Modifié par ReddInTheCities, 19 février 2013 - 07:48 .

[coldwetn0se]

Very interesting reasonings for the Varania choice. Like all those before, I generally dissuade Fenris from killing his sister. All the reasons given by the previous posters apply.

HOWEVER, I have roleplayed two Hawkes that did, in fact, let Fenris take his sisters life. The first saw it has his choice (whether right or wrong, that wasn't the point). This Hawke (Zyla Hawke) tended to let her companions make up their own minds (as in, whatever they "initially" presented as their desire, she considered THAT their choice). It was actually an interesting play through, and it made my Hawke look slightly indifferent (at times) to her companions struggles (she always saw herself as a "loner in a crowd", so she projected such ideals on others as well).

The second one (Valen Hawke), was somewhat revenge motivated. So her seeing Fenris reacting in a way that she would under the circumstances (again, regardless of what was best for Fenris), made sense to her. She had no problems (in the moment), having Fenris "off' his sibling. It should be noted that how I rp'ed her and wrapped up her story arc after the events of DA2, all of this revenge type attitude got the better of her. *cue the somber music*

But out of 13 play throughs, only two have let Fenris kill his sister.

[CuriousArtemis]

Agree with ren and Nil; my Hawke never lets him kill her because he feels that is not the "healthy" thing for Fenris to do; "violence breeds violence" and what that elf needs is not more bloodshed in his life but hugs and kisses

[maymay1588]

@ReddInTheCities;
I'm reading Lyrium's Hold first, that way once I get to the end, I can read the other while waiting for the next chapter. I typically read femHawke stories just as more a personal preference (and currently writing my own on the site now, but aren't we all haha). I have no problem with male on male in general, in fact there is a comic lilithblack writes on deviant art that is a male Hawke/Anders romance that is completely adorable and I enjoy as much as the female Hawke or Fenris romances. So long as the author puts their heart and soul into it, I find I can enjoy most any story. Ren yours is really deep and emotional from what I can read so far which I love. Sorry, I should be reviewing your story there not here, but I will once I get a little further in, promise.

Since we are on the Varania topic, I too do not allow him to kill her nor Varric kill his brother. The comments above pretty much covered everything I feel about it, so no point in playing a parrot and repeating it. Family is important to me, so I carry it over into the game. I have never once brought Carver or Bethany into the Deep Roads without Anders around for that reason.

[Dutchess]

Interesting. Many advocates for letting her live so far. I remember a year ago or so there were more people arguing in favor of killing her, mainly to protect Fenris from (ahh, meta knowledge!) telling him that he fought for the markings, for his own curse. That, and they considered Varania irredeemably evil for doing such a thing to Fenris. Not that I would suggest that it's actually a nice thing to do, but I think it's clear that she is not doing it easily and I assume that her life hasn't been easy either, even if Fenris had it much harder (Fenris had it much harder than any other companion and Hawke, so if his experiences are what you have to equal, nobody would have the right to complain, haha).

Nilfalasiel wrote...

That picture is...horrible, by the way. I don't mean the artistry, which is awesome, it's just...utterly chilling.

Sorry, it is pretty horrible indeed. I guess that discourages the option to kill her even more. I found a better one though:


Milulya




 

ReddInTheCities wrote...

I feel like my Hawke, who's lost all his/her family in some way shape or form, couldn't let that stand. My Hawke would consider the possibility of their eventual reconciliation paramount to any anger Fenris would feel at being denied his due.

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Interesting. Do you really think reconciliation will be possible? It seems like that single meeting will be their first and last. I doubt Fenris wishes to see her again. That he let her live doesn't mean he forgives her. Her betrayal really destroys all his expectations and I'm not sure if their blood bond is enough to heal this. Which is very sad indeed.


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maymay1588 wrote...

@ReddInTheCities;
I'm reading Lyrium's Hold first, that way once I get to the end, I can read the other while waiting for the next chapter. I typically read femHawke stories just as more a personal preference (and currently writing my own on the site now, but aren't we all haha). I have no problem with male on male in general, in fact there is a comic lilithblack writes on deviant art that is a male Hawke/Anders romance that is completely adorable and I enjoy as much as the female Hawke or Fenris romances. So long as the author puts their heart and soul into it, I find I can enjoy most any story. Ren yours is really deep and emotional from what I can read so far which I love. Sorry, I should be reviewing your story there not here, but I will once I get a little further in, promise. 

Oh, no matter, compliments are allowed everywhere, LOL. Thank you, I hope the rest will not dissappoint either. Emotional indeed. I'm evil and add even more drama to Fenris' already so dramatic life.

Modifié par renjility, 19 février 2013 - 09:19 .

[ReddInTheCities]

 @Ren: this would be my Hawke: 



The OC I've paired Fen with (yeah, I know, I know) throws her lot in with Varania and it winds up being the catalyst for one hell of a lover's tiff. I plan a few chapters' worth of exploring that. I'm just quite a ways away from getting there.

Modifié par ReddInTheCities, 19 février 2013 - 09:27 .

[ReddInTheCities]

I know we're also talking about Varania here, but I was wondering. Do you guys have an internal "Fenris playlist?" If so, what's on it?

It works more for my headcanon than game-canon, but Florence + The Machine's "Shake It Out" feels like it might be a personal anthem of his. Maybe as he's deciding to work through his issues.

[maymay1588]

@ReddInTheCities;
I do not know why but there is a Japanese song called Bad Apple by Touhou that reminds me of him. Just the lyrics though, the song itself I find a bit annoying.

This is an English version if anyone is interested. 

Modifié par maymay1588, 19 février 2013 - 11:46 .

[aldien]

Thank you for the lovely mug comments.I agree with Maymay. Everyone should create a mug and then show it off on here. We could have the parade of mugs. Personally, I think Flippy's naughty heat sensitive mug would win my vote.

Hello Flippy! Nice to see you here again You should drop in more often. Give me a break from Ren

The only reason I could potentially rivalmance Fenris is because I suspect the sex would be better. Shush, I know, it's always about that with me. That picture of him on the previous page with Hawke against the wall is jogging through my mind. Who posted that? You're genius.

Wait.... doesn't Varania say her mother died?

Varania I let live because Fen Fen is the better person. There's also something I've always wondered about... I get this little hint that perhaps Leto told Varania he would do whatever it takes to make her and their mother happy. Maybe Leto believed their freedom would be the ultimate prize. He didn't think it through obviously Awwwww Leto must have been blond.

I also get the impression that Varania and her mother had no idea what he was going to do with the boon. When I think of Varania's twisted little mind, I think maybe she believed Leto, not Fen, would willingly go back with Danarius to make her happy. She's still calling him Leto even though he barely remembers her. So I don't think she sees him as a different person. I don't know. She's messed up in da head. Coldy, I let one Hawke kill her. Poor Fenris seemed very unhappy with himself afterwards :/ Oh well, deleted that Hawke. Feel better now.

Ren, I am not hiding from you. It's true. I have yet to pick up your story and read it. I swear on my Fenris mug that I will read your story. If I do not, let the Maker smite my mug and smash it to bits. But if you made your MHawke big and hairy and gave him a generous wing wong, I'm not reading it. Back hair, and "I can be a lot to take in" just... no!!!!!!!!!!! It's still not physically possible and you know it. I will read and I will give honest feedback. >:}

I'm looking at your profile Ren on FF.net. You have a thing for Seb don't you? I love Hatseput too. She once told me is known as the smut queen when it comes to Fenris fanfiction. I believe it. She's my hero.

Modifié par aldien, 20 février 2013 - 03:13 .

[Nilfalasiel]

aldien wrote...

Wait.... doesn't Varania say her mother died?

I'm embarrassed to say that I don't actually remember...I can visualise the Varania scene, but I can't, for the life of me, remember if she says anything about their mother. It was probably the last thing I was focussing on. I'ma go and edit my post to remove my statement about there being no mention of her. Because, to be honest, there probably is, and I just completely blanked it out for some reason or other.

I also get the impression that Varania and her mother had no idea what he was going to do with the boon. When I think of Varania's twisted little mind, I think maybe she believed Leto, not Fen, would willingly go back with Danarius to make her happy. She's still calling him Leto even though he barely remembers her. So I don't think she sees him as a different person. I don't know. She's messed up in da head.

Well, I don't see why she would perceive him as a different person...He's still Leto to her, even if he has amnesia. He's not Leto to himself simply because he can't remember what it felt like to be Leto. But Varania certainly remembers.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 20 février 2013 - 03:13 .

[coldwetn0se]

Yeah....Varania does say, "You have no idea how it has been. After mother died....." (or something like that...just going on memory at the moment. wayyyyy too lazy to look it up.)

[Nilfalasiel]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Yeah....Varania does say, "You have no idea how it has been. After mother died....." (or something like that...just going on memory at the moment. wayyyyy too lazy to look it up.)

Figures. Herpy-derpy-doo!

This'll teach me to stop thinking about puppy eyes when that scene comes up and actually focus on what Cass-- err, I mean, sister dearest is saying.