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[aldien]

*Waves*

Why the hell did you let Anders live? That goes against everything I have taught you Ren!

Nice piccies. I'm looking to commission a life like picture of Malcolm Hawke. Any artists you guys recommend?

Modifié par aldien, 05 mars 2013 - 08:59 .

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

*Waves*

Why the hell did you let Anders live? That goes against everything I have taught you Ren!

Nice piccies. I'm looking to commission a life like picture of Malcolm Hawke. Any artists you guys recommend?

It's called "roleplaying". Believe me, it wasn't easy. Usually dear Andy gets the knife, but I figured this Hawke felt like he owed Anders for saving his brother's life in the Deep Roads (or at least postponing the inevitable), so he didn't kill him. A life for a life. He would not have stopped Sebastian if he had tried to kill Anders, but for that Sebastian feels like he has to go get his army. His loss.

As for artists... ehm... my Dragon Age deviant art favorites count 33 pages now, so there are a lot of people who have created beautiful images, but I have no idea which of those take commissions. The name that comes up is elfkin, because she has done recent comics as commission. 


scissorhands1990

[aldien]

Thank you Ren I might ask Celyanae... I don't know if she does commissions but her work is amazing.

She did this:



I still think it is amazing.

And for the Cullen freaks:



And for Anders freaks:



I felt dirty posting Anders here.

You know that is an interesting point. On two of my pt's I let Anders live for the same exact reason. It's hard to justify killing him when he saves Hawke's sibling. But still... he kills many people in the end. It's hard to reconcile that.

And because I think the Arishok's VA is amazing:

Modifié par aldien, 06 mars 2013 - 11:39 .

[aldien]

Shall write: 101 ways to kill a thread.

[Dutchess]

 Why, of course you killed the thread. You posted a picture of Anders!


Oooh, so you did let Anders live in a few playthroughs as well! See, I'm not the only one. But indeed it's a difficult choice to let him live, at least for me. In my eyes he has killed innocent people by blowing up the Chantry, and in that way he has proven he is a danger to everyone around him. Letting him live is basically allowing an abomination to roam free, and you could say that Hawke is responsible for any further harm he causes. Boo, now I've made myself feel worse.


Okay, I've got a Fenris-related question. Not a very happy one either, but I do think it's important. As far as I know the game never makes it entirely clear if Fenris' markings still actually hurt him. The codex and Fenris himself mention that the (memory of) agony that still lingers, but I'm not sure if that means the powerful memory of the extreme pain that accompanied the ritual, or actual pain that still plagues him. 
After the sex, diplomatic female Hawke can ask Fenris: "the markings... they hurt, don't they?" upon which Fenris vaguely replies: "it's not that." This seems to hint at some degree of pain, but it still remains very vague. Then, during QB in act 3, when Fenris explains why he left: "the pain, the memories it brought up... it was too much." This time a mention of pain by himself, but this could also be interpreted as emotional pain, distress caused by the regaining and losing of his memories, the emotional turmoil he experiences at the time. 

The great variety of interpretations in fanfiction makes it clear that everybody has their own idea about this. I've read that the touch of mages is pleasant, that magic causes him pain, that the markings hurt when they come into contact with somebody else... so I'm curious what your thoughts on this are?

I prefer to think that Fenris is not in constant agony whenever he moves. The markings my cause a bit of discomfort, more because they're probably harder and stiffer than regular skin and he could feel this during certain movements, but it's not actually pain. Because the markings are lyrium, I also assume that they react to the touch of a mage. Not really orgasm-inducing (yes, I've read fics that had that:whistle:), but more that the markings absorb and conduct magical energy, and that this could be felt as a sort of warmth spreading through the markings from where they're being touched. Perhaps a bit of electricity added as well, haha. But all in all magical energy. In my mind this is neither unpleasant nor particularly pleasant. It's something Fenris has to get used to (because I tend to have him hook up with mage Hawke because I like playing mages:P), and then he may start to associate it with pleasant feelings and intimacy and begin to like it more.

[AbsoluteApril]

*waves*
hello again FenThread.

I brought some random pic from 'AskFenders' tumblr (I still can't figure out tumblr grr)


Off to lunch break right now, I'll try to doodle something for the thread. Sorry Aldien, it won't be naked Fen/Ali yet, I'll need time to do that one proper.
be back in a bit.

[AbsoluteApril]

I tried to get it done quick but kept getting bothered with people wanting me to, you know, work. pah shaw! I'm trying to draw Fenris over here people!


Anyways, here is the silliness. I kinda like it.. thinking about scanning it and coloring it in. (pose/outfit reference was a photo of my only non-pixel man crush, Elijah Wood)

you know Fenris loves his apples. and Hawke. Hawke and Apples. Here Hawke, take a nibble

[aldien]

renjility wrote...

 Why, of course you killed the thread. You posted a picture of Anders!


Oooh, so you did let Anders live in a few playthroughs as well! See, I'm not the only one. But indeed it's a difficult choice to let him live, at least for me. In my eyes he has killed innocent people by blowing up the Chantry, and in that way he has proven he is a danger to everyone around him. Letting him live is basically allowing an abomination to roam free, and you could say that Hawke is responsible for any further harm he causes. Boo, now I've made myself feel worse.


Okay, I've got a Fenris-related question. Not a very happy one either, but I do think it's important. As far as I know the game never makes it entirely clear if Fenris' markings still actually hurt him. The codex and Fenris himself mention that the (memory of) agony that still lingers, but I'm not sure if that means the powerful memory of the extreme pain that accompanied the ritual, or actual pain that still plagues him. 
After the sex, diplomatic female Hawke can ask Fenris: "the markings... they hurt, don't they?" upon which Fenris vaguely replies: "it's not that." This seems to hint at some degree of pain, but it still remains very vague. Then, during QB in act 3, when Fenris explains why he left: "the pain, the memories it brought up... it was too much." This time a mention of pain by himself, but this could also be interpreted as emotional pain, distress caused by the regaining and losing of his memories, the emotional turmoil he experiences at the time. 

The great variety of interpretations in fanfiction makes it clear that everybody has their own idea about this. I've read that the touch of mages is pleasant, that magic causes him pain, that the markings hurt when they come into contact with somebody else... so I'm curious what your thoughts on this are?

I prefer to think that Fenris is not in constant agony whenever he moves. The markings my cause a bit of discomfort, more because they're probably harder and stiffer than regular skin and he could feel this during certain movements, but it's not actually pain. Because the markings are lyrium, I also assume that they react to the touch of a mage. Not really orgasm-inducing (yes, I've read fics that had that:whistle:), but more that the markings absorb and conduct magical energy, and that this could be felt as a sort of warmth spreading through the markings from where they're being touched. Perhaps a bit of electricity added as well, haha. But all in all magical energy. In my mind this is neither unpleasant nor particularly pleasant. It's something Fenris has to get used to (because I tend to have him hook up with mage Hawke because I like playing mages:P), and then he may start to associate it with pleasant feelings and intimacy and begin to like it more.

LOL! I did didn't I? Yes, I actually let Anders live a couple of time, but just like you I debated whether it was a good idea. In the end, I always ask myself one question: Would he do it again? I think so and how can you, in good conscience, let someone like that walk away? Then again, everyone is free to make their own choices. Anders has the blood on his hands not Hawke. But it is a grey area, probably the greyest in the whole game, unlike the Witcher which is one big grey area.

I'm glad you asked about Fenris's markings. Of late, it's been bothering me too. He says: The pain, the memories it brought up... so it must have been painful but... I like to imagine he gets used to the touch. I think Gaider said it is more of an aversion than actual pain. He also contradicted himself twice. *shrugs* I can't see someone wanting to have sex if it hurts and who would want to put their lover through that?

I thought the codex said somewhere that he is trying to deal with the pain? The thing is Fenris calls them scars in MoTA. Scars generally don't hurt. I've got one. It doesn't hurt when I poke it

Ya know, if the touch of a mage gave Fenris an induced an orgasm that would be a weakness in battle. "Just touch him! He'll be too busy writhing around to fight!" I just see a flaw there.

Here's my silly theory:

Danarius can erase his memory. How does he do it? How does he find Fenris? I think the markings can be manipulated by magic. I see them as strings and if you pluck the right ones things happen to Fenris. Perhaps, orgasms, but possibly other emotions. In my story, Hawke discovers that Danarius had the ability to stop the pain but he chose to keep the markings 'active'. She learns to turn them off and he feels no more pain. But that's my happy ending. Then again, I sometimes think the lyrium feels like splinter stuck under his skin :/ No don't go there. It's unpleasant.

I love playing mage too. It's my favorite class because it honestly makes me feel like there is real power behind every hit and I like the shiny light effects

I do want a bite! Damn it, April now I'm hungry!

Modifié par aldien, 09 mars 2013 - 12:12 .

[Hazegurl]

I think it's more emotional than physical. The only thing he remembers is the lyrium markings and how painful it was. After that, I can imagine that he hasn't had any feelings, positive or negative that could compare to the pain of having those marks put on his body. But sex with Hawke was so powerful that it perhaps pushed him beyond the memories of the pain he experienced, and therefore he had flashes of his life before the markings. What's a good counter for intense pain? Intense pleasure. Hawke must be awesome in bed.

ps. I always have Fenris with MHawke.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 09 mars 2013 - 12:52 .

[maymay1588]

@renjility;

To answer you question about his markings, I think it is a more emotional pain than physical as well.

To let you into the mind of someone who was once had severe Haphephobia, it is then emotions of the events that arise from contact that at times can almost feel like you are taken back to that point in time. I won't go into details, but after suffering a traumatizing event; for someone you do not know, trust, or are not prepared for, to come up and touch you almost awakens the fear you felt and you automatically go into defense mode as if experiencing it all over again.

I think here the lyrium causes him some pain, but he is more used to that. When someone touches him, the memory of whatever torture he went through surfaces and thus he reacts negatively toward it. Like in Act 2 when Hawke grabs his arm, I think a memory resurfaces so strongly to the point he forgets where he is and lashes out defensively against Hawke. Once he realizes where he is and what he has done, he calms knowing he is not in danger.

Bioware didn't really explain this in full detail, but they got the reactions to it down fairly correct. This is one of the many reasons I like his character so much. Out of all the characters, I can relate to him the most.

Sorry to bring so much personal crap into this to help explain, so now to share another SkyFenris:

[Dutchess]

Hi April! Nice Fenris drawing with yummy apple. Thanks for sharing.

aldien wrote...

LOL! I did didn't I? Yes, I actually let Anders live a couple of time, but just like you I debated whether it was a good idea. In the end, I always ask myself one question: Would he do it again? I think so and how can you, in good conscience, let someone like that walk away? Then again, everyone is free to make their own choices. Anders has the blood on his hands not Hawke.

But it has also become clear by then that Anders is more or less cuckoo. He is consumed by vengeance, and his need for vengeance overrules anything else. That makes him less than sane. Does a mentally ill person still deserve to make his own choices? DA2 was full of crazy people and you were forced to kill pretty much all of them. Are you not accountable if you let people like Quentin, Tarohne, Huon, walk free and they hurt another innocent? I'd say Hawke is at least partially responsible for further damage that Anders causes. 

But it is a grey area, probably the greyest in the whole game, unlike the Witcher which is one big grey area.

LOL, indeed. With pretty much every choice in TW I went "OMG, what should I doooo?????" Such a headache, haha. No save good vs evil, but grey, grey, grey. Wonderful and infinitely frustrating at the same time.

I thought the codex said somewhere that he is trying to deal with the pain?

The codex says this:

The markings on his skin are akin to runecrafting: made of lyrium and ink, they suffuse Fenris's flesh with a power even he does not fully understand. The process of their creation was painful, and in unguarded moments, Fenris attempts to control the agony that lingers still.

Again a mention of lingering agony, but this too could be mostly interpreted as that powerful memory of the intense pain he experienced during the ritual itself. But it does seem to go beyond that and that Fenris does feel physical pain caused by the markings.

The thing is Fenris calls them scars in MoTA. Scars generally don't hurt. I've got one. It doesn't hurt when I poke it

I can't say that I'm an expert on scars, but I think that some (bigger?) scars can cause discomfort? I know that for instance burn marks can itch and the skin can "pull". Scar tissue is not the same as normal, healthy skin. I can imagine that a scar-like line that reaches till the tip of your finger can feel uncomfortable. 

Ya know, if the touch of a mage gave Fenris an induced an orgasm that would be a weakness in battle. "Just touch him! He'll be too busy writhing around to fight!" I just see a flaw there.

LMAO. That gives Alistair's remark: "those mages tend to sneak up on you" a whole new meaning. Usually it did take more than a quick poke to elicit such a reaction in Fenris, haha. And getting close to Fenris in battle isn't that easy... especially not for a squishy mage wearing robes.

Here's my silly theory:

Danarius can erase his memory. How does he do it? How does he find Fenris? I think the markings can be manipulated by magic. I see them as strings and if you pluck the right ones things happen to Fenris. Perhaps, orgasms, but possibly other emotions. In my story, Hawke discovers that Danarius had the ability to stop the pain but he chose to keep the markings 'active'. She learns to turn them off and he feels no more pain. But that's my happy ending. Then again, I sometimes think the lyrium feels like splinter stuck under his skin :/ No don't go there. It's unpleasant.

Interesting theory. If Hawke turns the markings off, do they become completely lifeless as well? Is Fenris no longer able to phase through objects (and people's chests)?

Hazegurl wrote...

I think it's more emotional than physical. The only thing he remembers is the lyrium markings and how painful it was. After that, I can imagine that he hasn't had any feelings, positive or negative that could compare to the pain of having those marks put on his body. But sex with Hawke was so powerful that it perhaps pushed him beyond the memories of the pain he experienced, and therefore he had flashes of his life before the markings. What's a good counter for intense pain? Intense pleasure. Hawke must be awesome in bed. 

ps. I always have Fenris with MHawke.

Hello Hazegurl. I don't recognize your name, so I welcome you to the Fenris thread:) (if you've posted before I apologize for granting you the newbie status, haha). Interesting interpretation. I agree with the idea that the pain of the ritual forms some kind of "wall" in Fenris' mind that blocks his old memories, and that somehow the intimacy with Hawke temporarily shattered that wall and let the memories back in. Whether it was because Fenris was finally able to let his guard down for a moment and relax completely or that indeed Hawke is such a hot beast that orgasms caused by him/her heal the wounded soul remains a mystery though. Then again, there is no indication of returning memories if Fenris hooks up with Isabela, and she must be quite an expert in bed as well. Hawke must have a secret trick.:innocent:

maymay1588 wrote...

@renjility;

To answer you question about his markings, I think it is a more emotional pain than physical as well. 

To let you into the mind of someone who was once had severe Haphephobia, it is then emotions of the events that arise from contact that at times can almost feel like you are taken back to that point in time. I won't go into details, but after suffering a traumatizing event; for someone you do not know, trust, or are not prepared for, to come up and touch you almost awakens the fear you felt and you automatically go into defense mode as if experiencing it all over again. 

I think here the lyrium causes him some pain, but he is more used to that. When someone touches him, the memory of whatever torture he went through surfaces and thus he reacts negatively toward it. Like in Act 2 when Hawke grabs his arm, I think a memory resurfaces so strongly to the point he forgets where he is and lashes out defensively against Hawke. Once he realizes where he is and what he has done, he calms knowing he is not in danger. 

A thorough analysis. It seems very likely that Fenris has negative associations with being touched, especially if you go with the interpretation that Danarius was "intimate" with him. It's not easy to get over that association, especially if it's all you've ever known. 

Bioware didn't really explain this in full detail, but they got the reactions to it down fairly correct. This is one of the many reasons I like his character so much. Out of all the characters, I can relate to him the most.

Sorry to bring so much personal crap into this to help explain, so now to share another SkyFenris:
*snip*

No need to apologize. I'm sorry you have had such a bad experience and hope you're doing better now. SkyFen is looking great again, and now he even has an ogre in Skyrim. It's dead, isn't it? I hope it's dead. Looks like Fenris killed him. I'm back to playing Skyrim again as well, and found the elf patiently waiting in the inn. Unfortunately I had to go back and forth between my home to ditch my crap and then ditch Serana before I could take him as a follower, so I still need to actually recruit him.<_<

[maymay1588]

renjility wrote...

No need to apologize. I'm sorry you have had such a bad experience and hope you're doing better now. SkyFen is looking great again, and now he even has an ogre in Skyrim. It's dead, isn't it? I hope it's dead. Looks like Fenris killed him. I'm back to playing Skyrim again as well, and found the elf patiently waiting in the inn. Unfortunately I had to go back and forth between my home to ditch my crap and then ditch Serana before I could take him as a follower, so I still need to actually recruit him.<_<

Yes, summoned that Ogre, let him do all the work of killing him and made him pose for the shot lol. I do not know or rememeber who or if I sent this new version to anyone, but if whoever wants it, just pm me.
Thank you for the concern, but it is fine now, that was years ago and had lots of help through it 

Modifié par maymay1588, 10 mars 2013 - 12:49 .

[Hazegurl]

renjility wrote...
Hello Hazegurl. I don't recognize your name, so I welcome you to the Fenris thread:) (if you've posted before I apologize for granting you the newbie status, haha). Interesting interpretation. I agree with the idea that the pain of the ritual forms some kind of "wall" in Fenris' mind that blocks his old memories, and that somehow the intimacy with Hawke temporarily shattered that wall and let the memories back in. Whether it was because Fenris was finally able to let his guard down for a moment and relax completely or that indeed Hawke is such a hot beast that orgasms caused by him/her heal the wounded soul remains a mystery though. Then again, there is no indication of returning memories if Fenris hooks up with Isabela, and she must be quite an expert in bed as well. Hawke must have a secret trick.:innocent:

Thanks for the welcome! Yep I'm a newbie.

I love the idea of Hawke being the better lover than Isabella. lol! He/She is the Champion of Kirkwall. But I also think it could be because Fenris actually falls in love with Hawke while Isabella was just pure unattached sex. I  think that making love to someone is a far more emotional experience than...dare I say it...raw sex.

A thorough analysis. It seems very likely that Fenris has negative
associations with being touched, especially if you go with the
interpretation that Danarius was "intimate" with him. It's not easy to
get over that association, especially if it's all you've ever known.

I agree. I like to go with the theory that Danarius was intimate with him. IMO, it just seems so obvious. Even my niece who never played DA mentions it when she watched me sell Fenris back to him(I did it just to see what would happen, could not keep that save. lol). When his eyes trailed over Fenris before leaving she shouted. "He's going to rape him!"  I think it makes Fenris one of the deepest companions out of the lot and one of my favorites.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 10 mars 2013 - 01:35 .

[Aroihkin]

*peers back in*

I might have some insight on the scar issue.

Some scars can hurt incredibly, as well as feel so majorly incredibly horribly weird to have touched that you can't help but physically recoil. It's incredibly hard to describe, kind of like someone peeling back your eyelid and touching it. I have one running down my left index finger that's like that. Whenever I've been fingerprinted and they've absolutely insisted on rolling my fingers for me, they end up touching it and it takes every ounce of control + expecting it in advance to avoid punching them with my free hand.

And my god, if it's a woman and she touches it with a fingernail despite my warning ahead of time, I really have to work at it and it's a very, very close call.

(I've had jobs in the past with international airport security clearance post-9/11. Just so folks don't think my being fingerprinted was me getting arrested or something.)

That said, if Fenris' markings are that hardcore awful to touch, I don't know how he manages to even wear armor. But it gives and idea of how mangled scars can heal. I have plenty that are tough and numb, on the other end of the spectrum. I think it has to do with how much it's exposed to things while healing; my finger was completely encased in splints and bandages since it had been, you know, smashed to a pulp. XD Fenris probably wasn't coddled that much when his brands were healing, so I imagine they're somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.

And of course the lyrium itself changes things, too, but this is just normal IRL scars that can be that bad.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 10 mars 2013 - 09:31 .

[aldien]

But it has also become clear by then that Anders is more or less cuckoo. He is consumed by vengeance, and his need for vengeance overrules anything else. That makes him less than sane. Does a mentally ill person still deserve to make his own choices? DA2 was full of crazy people and you were forced to kill pretty much all of them. Are you not accountable if you let people like Quentin, Tarohne, Huon, walk free and they hurt another innocent? I'd say Hawke is at least partially responsible for further damage that Anders causes.

Well... if someone let Quentin walk then they need a smack. Hawke was forced to kill them or be killed. I always see Hawke as a private investigator who tends to run into psychos. Some of those people you named make Hannibal Lecter look like an amateur. But Hawke's job is not to police Kirkwall. That is technically Aveline's job, which I think she does poorly. Anders is a different case altogether. He's a friend or at least he has helped out. I mean, maybe some people see Hawke as crazy at the end for going up against templar or mages and killing them all. It's down to perception and that is why I do not lay full blame on Hawke.

I have a huge scar across my leg. 15 stitches worth of scar. I sometimes flinch if it gets scratched because I still remember the pain, but it doesn't actually hurt. So I can understand Fenris's fear of being touched, whether it hurts or not.

Interesting theory.smilie If Hawke turns the markings off, do they become completely lifeless as well? Is Fenris no longer able to phase through objects (and people's chests)?

I went with the idea that Danarius could cause him pain by manipulating the markings. That is how he punished him and he just leaves him in enough pain to feel it, but he can still function. Hawke shuts off the pain not the markings. I can just see Danarius being that sick. I don't know... it's hard to reconcile that kind of cruelty.

I know Hawke's secret trick. It's the feather

So... some strange person reading my deranged story asked me a question today. And I quote:

Do you think Fenris can ghost his junk o_O

Ahhhh the eloquence of it all. Well Ren? Can he?

[Dutchess]

Hazegurl wrote...

Thanks for the welcome! Yep I'm a newbie.

I love the idea of Hawke being the better lover than Isabella. lol! He/She is the Champion of Kirkwall. But I also think it could be because Fenris actually falls in love with Hawke while Isabella was just pure unattached sex. I  think that making love to someone is a far more emotional experience than...dare I say it...raw sex.

True, I neglected that part for a moment. Indeed the emotional bond between Fenris and Hawke is much stronger than between Fenris and Isabela. That's usually what is used as the explanation for the lack of returning memories with Fenris - Isabela. 

I agree. I like to go with the theory that Danarius was intimate with him. IMO, it just seems so obvious. Even my niece who never played DA mentions it when she watched me sell Fenris back to him(I did it just to see what would happen, could not keep that save. lol). When his eyes trailed over Fenris before leaving she shouted. "He's going to rape him!"  I think it makes Fenris one of the deepest companions out of the lot and one of my favorites.

Haha, your niece is brighter than I am. The first time I played that suggestion went right over my innocent head. I must have been distracted by Fenris' puppy eyes.:innocent:

Aroihkin wrote...

*peers back in*

I might have some insight on the scar issue.

Some scars can hurt incredibly, as well as feel so majorly incredibly horribly weird to have touched that you can't help but physically recoil. It's incredibly hard to describe, kind of like someone peeling back your eyelid and touching it. I have one running down my left index finger that's like that. Whenever I've been fingerprinted and they've absolutely insisted on rolling my fingers for me, they end up touching it and it takes every ounce of control + expecting it in advance to avoid punching them with my free hand.

And my god, if it's a woman and she touches it with a fingernail despite my warning ahead of time, I really have to work at it and it's a very, very close call.

(I've had jobs in the past with international airport security clearance post-9/11. Just so folks don't think my being fingerprinted was me getting arrested or something.)

Another name and face avatar I don't recognize. Welcome to the Fenris thread! 

I'm fortunate enough to have not suffered any serious injuries and thus don't have scars, so my knowledge is lacking. Thanks for clearing some of that up. It sounds highly unpleasant.

That said, if Fenris' markings are that hardcore awful to touch, I don't know how he manages to even wear armor. But it gives and idea of how mangled scars can heal. I have plenty that are tough and numb, on the other end of the spectrum. I think it has to do with how much it's exposed to things while healing; my finger was completely encased in splints and bandages since it had been, you know, smashed to a pulp. XD Fenris probably wasn't coddled that much when his brands were healing, so I imagine they're somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.

And of course the lyrium itself changes things, too, but this is just normal IRL scars that can be that bad.

I admit I'm wondering now what you have done to get so many scars. A finger smashed to a pulp sounds serious. *shivers* 
Ahh... back to Fenris. Well, in the DA universe they obviously have healing spells, and I think Danarius would have used his powers to heal Fenris when needed. From what we've heard, the endeavour to infuse Fenris with lyrium is an expensive and tricky business. It doesn't sound logical that Danarius would risk losing what seems to be his first successful subject just because he can't be bothered to heal him. That would be a waste.

aldien wrote...

Well... if someone let Quentin walk then they need a smack. Hawke was forced to kill them or be killed. I always see Hawke as a private investigator who tends to run into psychos. Some of those people you named make Hannibal Lecter look like an amateur. But Hawke's job is not to police Kirkwall. That is technically Aveline's job, which I think she does poorly. Anders is a different case altogether. He's a friend or at least he has helped out. I mean, maybe some people see Hawke as crazy at the end for going up against templar or mages and killing them all. It's down to perception and that is why I do not lay full blame on Hawke.

Of course the context is different because Anders is a friend (sort of), but that doesn't change anything about what he has done. What if he had chopped of parts of women and sowed them back together for his great project of Justice? Hardly different from blowing a few women up either. Quentin gave you no option so spare him, but just because Anders doesn't force you to fight him doesn't make him worth saving. The choice is difficult for Hawke due to his/her past with Anders, but if he/she decides to let Anders go, he/she must be aware that he will continue to fight for his cause and will be willing to hurt more people to achieve his ultimate goal. Urgh, I'm arguing against a choice I actually made myself, LOL. 

I know Hawke's secret trick. It's the feather

I didn't know Hawke had feathers. Did he/she steal one from Anders' robes?

So... some strange person reading my deranged story asked me a question today. And I quote:

Do you think Fenris can ghost his junk o_O

Ahhhh the eloquence of it all. Well Ren? Can he?

Yes, he can.

Seriously. 

If his only purpose was to pluck hearts out of chests, there would be no need for his whole body to "phase". Because the markings reach from his neck to his toes, I assume Danarius wanted him to be able to phase completely, perhaps so that he could move through walls for a secret assassination. When you have to move through a wall, I imagine it's not very handy when your "junk" remains stuck on the other side, so... junk ghosts too.


Have a naked Fenris for the occasion, with ghost junk.


YumiKoyuki

[coldwetn0se]

*points to the pic above* ^ hey.......you're missin' sumthin'.




;D

[aldien]

ROFL! You're missing something.... I don't know why that tickled me so much but it did. Be back when not so giggly.

Ghost junk... just..........no! 

No really officier he snuck up on me! I didn't even see it coming..

See what you two did??????!!!!!!!??????

I'm pissing myself laughing and it's Sunday. :lol:

Modifié par aldien, 11 mars 2013 - 12:09 .

[mnomaha]

*spits coffee* You just about killed me..

Missin' sumthin' and ghost junk and sneaky Fenris...LOLOL

[coldwetn0se]

I really have the urge to doodle.....but I am terrible at...erm..ahem....proportion. His glowing member (heh....thank you aldy!!) might end up a tad on the "bulbous" side.

*leacherous grin!*



....hands hankies to aldy and mnomaha. There you go, my dears.

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 11 mars 2013 - 05:21 .

[Aroihkin]

@renjility -- I actually invaded the thread about a page ago with a comic page (speaking of, I'm glad folks like it so far), but otherwise yeah. I've never really posted in here before that, although I know at least one picture of mine was posted here before on my behalf. ("In Vino Veritas")

I don't generally venture out of Zevran's corner of the fandom; it usually goes badly. So I'm skittish.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 11 mars 2013 - 04:52 .

[coldwetn0se]

Aroihkin wrote...

@renjility -- I actually invaded the thread about a page ago with a comic page (speaking of, I'm glad folks like it so far), but otherwise yeah. I've never really posted in here before that, although I know at least one picture of mine was posted here before on my behalf. ("In Vino Veritas")

I don't generally venture out of Zevran's corner of the fandom; it usually goes badly. So I'm skittish.

You should definately come and play with us loons, whenever you please.  And if it puts your mind at ease, there are a number of us who are quite swoony over Zevran.  Zev and Fen are my go to boys for DA.
Oh, and love the avatar. Your art style is wonderful.

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

ROFL! You're missing something.... I don't know why that tickled me so much but it did. Be back when not so giggly.

Ghost junk... just..........no! 

No really officier he snuck up on me! I didn't even see it coming..

See what you two did??????!!!!!!!??????

I'm pissing myself laughing and it's Sunday. :lol:

Psht, it was YOUR question, and my reasoning was airtight.


@ Aroihkin: oh, that's right. I did see that. Sorry, my bad. I forgot to add you to my watchlist on deviant art, so I've done that now. Can't wait for the next part of the comic.

[mnomaha]

Hankies and Fenris and Zevran...oh myyyy

[aldien]

Aroihkin  said: I don't generally venture out of Zevran's corner of the fandom; it usually goes badly. So I'm skittish.

Well... I'm usually drunk or hormonal when I reply and I think Ren might be a tween in disguise, Coldy is really an old guy with a beard and mnomaha has had too much caffeine. That is my best guess. I was Carver in a previous life, I think. Say the wrong thing at the wrong time.

Hankies and Fenris and Zevran...oh myyyy

Hankies? That's too much cotton for me. I'm more of a poly cotton blend. Synthetic fibers all the way babe unless you need absorption. That's more of a paper thing. Way out of my league.

Psht, it was YOUR question, and my reasoning was airtight

Ren. you can't reason your own reason otherwise it's not reasonable. Seriously...

Did you know that Malcolm Hawke and Garrett Hawke are voiced by the same VA? Why did no one tell me this????? Now I shall swoon to both voices.

Modifié par aldien, 12 mars 2013 - 03:04 .