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[coldwetn0se]

aldien wrote...

Aroihkin  said: I don't generally venture out of Zevran's corner of the fandom; it usually goes badly. So I'm skittish.

Well... I'm usually drunk or hormonal when I reply and I think Ren might be a tween in disguise, Coldy is really an old guy with a beard and mnomaha has had too much caffeine. That is my best guess. I was Carver in a previous life, I think. Say the wrong thing at the wrong time.

Hankies and Fenris and Zevran...oh myyyy

Hankies? That's too much cotton for me. I'm more of a poly cotton blend. Synthetic fibers all the way babe unless you need absorption. That's more of a paper thing. Way out of my league.

Psht, it was YOUR question, and my reasoning was airtight

Ren. you can't reason your own reason otherwise it's not reasonable. Seriously...

Did you know that Malcolm Hawke and Garrett Hawke are voiced by the same VA? Why did no one tell me this????? Now I shall swoon to both voices.

Bah!  First off, my "short boxed beard" itches....Secondly, what is your new kink with Malcom Hawke??  As for his voice, yup! I knew his voice was done by M!Hawkes VA (just as Xenon is).  His voice is the reason, I have now found myself in a particular dilemma.  Read on.....

You see, I have always favored female PC's in games that allow me to choose.  However, I always still played with male PC's as well, since it is fun to try new things and RP different avatars.  Here is where the dilemma occurs: Up until now, I rolled around 60%/40% in favor of fem!Hawke.  Mostly I did this because of how I was in past games that allowed me to choose the gender of the PC.  As of late though, I am having a harder time dealing with fem!Hawkes voice.  Now I need to qualify....I do not think that Jo Wyatt is a bad voice actor; no, no, no.  My problem though is how she voices the different personalities. 

I have now found, that I prefer to mix up my "voice" choices in DA2 (similar to how I RP'ed both DAO and ME).  But, because miss Wyatt makes the personality choices so "distinct", my PC sounds like "Sybil", and that is NOT what I am going for.  In my last Hawke play through I played a M!Hawke (Castor Hawke), and I was able to do a good combo of Direct/Diplo, with a slight Aggro tune and a smidgen of Snarky.  This played out BEAUTIFULLY!  I decided, after I finished my latest DAO play through, that I would import and start a new fem!Hawke.  I wanted to use a similar personality, since I have never done that with a Fem!Hawke before.....Alas! It is not going well.  Bah!!!  She sounds....well, psychotic. It has gotten so bad, that I finally went and made a new M!Hawke with the same import. OI!!!  That bothers me.... So, am I the only one who see this??  Don't get me wrong, I have no problem RPing a Male Hawke, but I really wanted to do a fem!Hawke in the manner of my last m!Hawke play through....ya know, since I had never done a run through like that before. *pppbbbtttsss*

So now I ask, what is it that has all of you lovely Fen fans, RPing one gender over another? Or, do you find you are about equal on male and female PC's?  Do you think there are "advantages" over one gender than another? (this is an honest question, nothing more, I swear.)  Inquiring minds (and desparate to play fem!Hawke again...) wish to know!?!?!?!

[mnomaha]

@Aldien...yes, but cotton chafes far less than a poly cotton blend, or so I'm told.


@Coldi...Well, I know exactly what you mean about voices. I kinda thought it was just me. I actually dropped a FemHawke playthrough because she sounded like something off the Exorcist. I would select something and she would say something that made my jaw drop.

I have found lately that playing as a male seems to be a new preference for me. I blame the gendre inequality in ME3, but I find bioware games play better as a male. Maybe its just my jaded view of things, but it seems somehow "better" to play as a male these days.

I know that, at least in the Mass Effect universe, males have far more variety and options for role playing. Viewed overall, the DA'verse seems to be more equal. Maybe it is as simple as the different voice actors in DA. Or perhaps personalities and perceptions on snark, comedy, etc. I think that personality traits like this are hard to convey without the VA using their own translations, so maybe that is what you are sensing. Maybe she is a bit psychotic. LOL I am totally kidding. Geez, I hope she doesn't read this.

Does that make any sense? It's been a hella long day.

[coldwetn0se]

LOL....I think I get where you are going with this.

DAO, ME and ME2 (I don' play me3 as you well know), I definately favored a female PC. I think all three of those games did well with a female lead. But as both of us have stated, it seems that "how" the female VA decided to invoke said personalities in DA2 just feels (sounds) schizophrenic if you tend NOT to only play one general tone (i.e. only Diplo, Snarky/Charming, Aggro/Direct). I prefer to mix it up, since it feels more natural to do so....(appropriate tone for each case). Now that doesn't mean I can't RP them with a leaning towards a specific personality. As stated, just like with my Castor play through, I would have taken more Direct dialogue options, than others. Still, to move and shift as the circumstances call for, seems much more inviting....especially since I was able to do this successfully with M!Hawke.

Ah well. I guess I will still play out the f!Hawke I made AND my new m!Hawke as well. As for romance, I will take advantage of the fact that I am playing two Hawkes at the same time. For f!Hawke, I will try to do the casual sex with Issy, then move on to Fenris (fingers crossed it doesn't glitch). And for m!Hawke, I already worked out (in detail, I might add...HA!), how he will get together with Anders, but since Anders expects a declaration of love and an invitation to move in, right after their first night together, Abel Hawke will react poorly, and send blondie packing. Later, he will romance Fenris, and his leaving in Act 2 will have an interesting affect on Hawke. Course, he will end up with Fenris in Act 3, since he won't have moved on emotionally. Damn....I think I might have to kinkmeme this play through. HA!!

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 12 mars 2013 - 04:58 .

[Aroihkin]

coldwetn0se wrote...

You should definately come and play with us loons, whenever you please.  And if it puts your mind at ease, there are a number of us who are quite swoony over Zevran.  Zev and Fen are my go to boys for DA.
Oh, and love the avatar. Your art style is wonderful.

Haha, thanks. :3 The avatar's from a picture that has Fenris in it, too, so I may as well post it too while I'm at it.



Elves In Black

renjility wrote...
@ Aroihkin: oh, that's right. I did see that. Sorry, my bad. I forgot to add you to my watchlist on deviant art, so I've done that now. Can't wait for the next part of the comic.

:3 The next page is nearly done, I'm just being careful not to burn out since I have 7-9 more pages to go, and I want to at least finish a black and white version.

It may not seem like much, but when it takes twelve hours of work for me to just ink a drawn page, project burn-out is way too easy to run into.

aldien wrote...
Well... I'm usually drunk or hormonal when I reply and I think Ren might be a tween in disguise, Coldy is really an old guy with a beard and mnomaha has had too much caffeine. That is my best guess. I was Carver in a previous life, I think. Say the wrong thing at the wrong time.

Haha, well, I tend to offend the crap out of people on accident, so I'm sure this will end in tears.


...M!Hawke's VA also voiced Ser Bryant, who was the first character I wrote porn of on the kink meme. Back long before DA2 came along and made Lothering relevant on the meme and then suddenly everyone was writing Ser Bryant porn. XD It was even voice kink, IIRC. My Warden made him recite the chant while, uh, distracting him.

(Actually they kind of took turns on that one. Hello, I am Aro and I write porn.)

Of course, he also voiced Vaughan, which is a lot less sexy. Even if he is involved in a fill I'm supposed to write...

Modifié par Aroihkin, 12 mars 2013 - 12:08 .

[coldwetn0se]

@Aroihkin - Love the EIB.

Shhhhhh....about Vaughn. LOL I really try and block that one out, so I don't have to have an image of my CE warden repeatedly plunging a large dagger into Hawke's chest. XD

"OH....sorry. I thought you were someone else. It's just you sounded sooo much like....hello? *nudges the side of Hawkes head with her boot*.....oops."

[maymay1588]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@Aroihkin - Love the EIB.

Shhhhhh....about Vaughn. LOL I really try and block that one out, so I don't have to have an image of my CE warden repeatedly plunging a large dagger into Hawke's chest. XD

"OH....sorry. I thought you were someone else. It's just you sounded sooo much like....hello? *nudges the side of Hawkes head with her boot*.....oops."

Lol! Hawke is secretly a pervy rapist who fled Ferelden not because of the blight, but to flee his past in Denerim and the wrath of the Warden to start anew.

Oh, came across this wallpaper with a smexy, shirtless Fenris in the background. Does anyone know who it is by? It is on some random wallpaper site and not credited anywhere. The Fenris model looks familiar...Fenris and Hawke Wallpaper

[Dutchess]

maymay1588 wrote...


Lol! Hawke is secretly a pervy rapist who fled Ferelden not because of the blight, but to flee his past in Denerim and the wrath of the Warden to start anew.

Oh, came across this wallpaper with a smexy, shirtless Fenris in the background. Does anyone know who it is by? It is on some random wallpaper site and not credited anywhere. The Fenris model looks familiar...Fenris and Hawke Wallpaper

I think it's by Vakidzashi, but it seems he/she has removed this particular image. I have two images by him/her in my favourites that say "deviation in storage" now. It definitely looks like his/her Fenris though:





Only these two are left on his/her deviant art.

[Aroihkin]

Aww, I hate it when folks take down their stuff on DA. I always just throw old crap I'm not as fond of anymore into scraps, or just unlink them from all the folders. That way direct links still work but they don't show up in my gallery. XD

I actually had a gift art someone did of Tannusen go missing from that recently, which really sucked. I have a copy offline, but ouch. ( The artist purged 99% of their gallery, so it wasn't just me, but yeah. D: )

[maymay1588]

renjility wrote...

maymay1588 wrote...


Lol! Hawke is secretly a pervy rapist who fled Ferelden not because of the blight, but to flee his past in Denerim and the wrath of the Warden to start anew.

Oh, came across this wallpaper with a smexy, shirtless Fenris in the background. Does anyone know who it is by? It is on some random wallpaper site and not credited anywhere. The Fenris model looks familiar...Fenris and Hawke Wallpaper

I think it's by Vakidzashi, but it seems he/she has removed this particular image. I have two images by him/her in my favourites that say "deviation in storage" now. It definitely looks like his/her Fenris though:

Only these two are left on his/her deviant art.

Well that does suck, they are really good at that 3d art. Thanks for finding those!

[Ice Wolf]

Aroihkin wrote...

Aww, I hate it when folks take down their stuff on DA. I always just throw old crap I'm not as fond of anymore into scraps, or just unlink them from all the folders. That way direct links still work but they don't show up in my gallery. XD

I actually had a gift art someone did of Tannusen go missing from that recently, which really sucked. I have a copy offline, but ouch. ( The artist purged 99% of their gallery, so it wasn't just me, but yeah. D: )

Oh wow! Excuse me as I fanboy for a moment. "Oh my sweet gods!!!! Tannu!Anon, not so Anon. I am such  big fan of your work. Love it.

[Aroihkin]

Ice Wolf wrote...

Oh wow! Excuse me as I fanboy for a moment. "Oh my sweet gods!!!! Tannu!Anon, not so Anon. I am such  big fan of your work. Love it.

Aw, thanks.  Being an irreverent pervert is fun, but when other people like it I get the warm and fuzzies.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 13 mars 2013 - 08:26 .

[Dutchess]

maymay1588 wrote...

renjility wrote...

maymay1588 wrote...


Lol! Hawke is secretly a pervy rapist who fled Ferelden not because of the blight, but to flee his past in Denerim and the wrath of the Warden to start anew.

Oh, came across this wallpaper with a smexy, shirtless Fenris in the background. Does anyone know who it is by? It is on some random wallpaper site and not credited anywhere. The Fenris model looks familiar...Fenris and Hawke Wallpaper

I think it's by Vakidzashi, but it seems he/she has removed this particular image. I have two images by him/her in my favourites that say "deviation in storage" now. It definitely looks like his/her Fenris though:

Only these two are left on his/her deviant art.

Well that does suck, they are really good at that 3d art. Thanks for finding those!

I checked my pictures folder and it turns out I do have the removed image on my pc. I suppose it's not very nice to upload it, but perhaps I could send it to you if you really want it?

[maymay1588]

renjility wrote...

I checked my pictures folder and it turns out I do have the removed image on my pc. I suppose it's not very nice to upload it, but perhaps I could send it to you if you really want it?

Yes, if you would that would be great! Her artwork is amazing and I'd love to see more.

Modifié par maymay1588, 13 mars 2013 - 05:27 .

[Aroihkin]

Just finished and tossed page 2 online. :3



Black Black Heart - page 2

[ReddInTheCities]

 I saw this many many pages ago and the person who posted it couldn't remember where they'd found it.
Voilà!

Domirine

[Hazegurl]

mnomaha wrote...

I have found lately that playing as a male seems to be a new preference for me. I blame the gendre inequality in ME3, but I find bioware games play better as a male. Maybe its just my jaded view of things, but it seems somehow "better" to play as a male these days.

I know that, at least in the Mass Effect universe, males have far more variety and options for role playing.

I also prefer playing as a male in ME and DA2. For some reason I just like the male VAs better than the females. Not saying the female VAs are bad. But the male voices are just sexy, and they tend to do the funny moments better. With Mass Effect. I tend to go renegade and the female Shepard sounds breathy and sexy. Not what I wanted in a renegade. She also tends to sound like she's in a porno while talking to Jacob. Dealbreaker for me. I dropped her and deleted. In DA2, I find that the male VA does sarcastic better and when I want him tough and direct he sounds like it.

I also think that Bioware tend to use some of the same animations for the male and female PC with the male being the default so it just doesn't look right for the female to do the same thing. In ME3, I noticed that the female shapard walked like a man and was coming off as too manly in her movements. The Male Shep moves the same way and naturally it looks better with him.

In DA2, I tried romancing Fenris as a female Hawke and it didn't look right to me. FemHawke and male Hawke have the same animation for their first romance scene and Fenris comes off as "the woman" in the scene with the Fem Hawke. But I find the animation fits with a male Hawke and Fenris. As, IMO Male Hawke is bigger  and therefore would be the top in the relationship.

[Aroihkin]

Hazegurl wrote...

As, IMO Male Hawke is bigger  and therefore would be the top in the relationship.

What? XD

I think there's several reasons Hawke seems to be "leading the dance", as it were. (At least at first.) But "the height rule" is something that... is about as grounded in reality as self-lubricating butts.

Someone can certainly have a preference for topping shorter dudes or being topped by taller dudes, of course! But the idea that tall = top is just silly. Same goes for the idea that one guy is in the "girl" role, which is related to the idea that one dude is always on the bottom and the other is always on top. XD Personal preferences aside (some guys just don't like both sides of the coin, 's all cool) that's not particularly standard.

They gave the "I guess I don't have to ask which of you is the girl" line to Gamlen to make fun of that whole thing, you know. XD

[aldien]

Coldy said: Bah! First off, my "short boxed beard" itches....Secondly, what is your new kink with Malcom Hawke?? As for his voice, yup! I knew his voice was done by M!Hawkes VA (just as Xenon is). His voice is the reason, I have now found myself in a particular dilemma. Read on.....

You see, I have always favored female PC's in games that allow me to choose. However, I always still played with male PC's as well, since it is fun to try new things and RP different avatars. Here is where the dilemma occurs: Up until now, I rolled around 60%/40% in favor of fem!Hawke. Mostly I did this because of how I was in past games that allowed me to choose the gender of the PC. As of late though, I am having a harder time dealing with fem!Hawkes voice. Now I need to qualify....I do not think that Jo Wyatt is a bad voice actor; no, no, no. My problem though is how she voices the different personalities.

Have you read the codex about Malcolm Hawke? I wish someone like him had been an LI. He is what Anders should have been imo. He was a good mage that would have turned himself in if he had been possessed. He wanted rights for mages but not at the cost of putting other people in danger and he loved his family. Plus, the story of how he and Leandra became a couple is extremely romantic without being too sickly sweet. And his voice! About that...

I share your dilemma! Until recently I had never played as MHawke. I enjoy romancing Fenris with FHawke regardless of supposed animation problems But after a billion pt's I decided to try something new. MHawke has an extremely sexy voice and I think he does deliver the personalities better than Jo Wyatt. It may be it is difficult as a woman to sound aggressive to an audience without fitting in to the 'she's a ****' stereotype. I felt authority from MHawke and insanity from FHawke depending on personality. But... i think that is ingrained in my head. Anyway, I love MHawke's voice and his personalities better now but... his romances suck!! Sorry to everyone who loves Merrill and Isabela. Neither one of them seemed to fit. They were two extremes and there was nothing in the middle. I feel the same way about FHawke to some degree although I think Fenris, later in the game, evens out. He's the best romance option in my opinion no matter what gender you play.

Hazegurl said: In DA2, I tried romancing Fenris as a female Hawke and it didn't look right to me. FemHawke and male Hawke have the same animation for their first romance scene and Fenris comes off as "the woman" in the scene with the Fem Hawke. But I find the animation fits with a male Hawke and Fenris. As, IMO Male Hawke is bigger and therefore would be the top in the relationship.

This is a new one and I've read a ton of reason why MHawke and Fenris should be together. Do you ever skip dialogue options before the first kiss? If your computer glitches or hesitates it also messes it up. If any of that happens, the position of their lips can change from kissing on the lips to looking like she is kissing his neck. There is a height difference between Fenris and FHawke as well, and yes, they used the same animation.

 I've never adhered to the viewpoint that bigger means tougher or dominate. I once saw a member of the Hell's Angels go all mushy over a little girl who waved at him while his wife was smoking a cig and could care less. I think that there is no such thing as coming off as the 'the woman'. Look at queen Liz and her husband. Who do you think wears the pants in that family? Fenris's frame is smaller but after seeing him rip people's hearts out, I don't see him as feminine in any way. He's incredibly masculine in the way he moves and the way he speaks. Actually, I made my MHawke quite sweet this pt. By all rights, Fenris would be the tougher one in that relationship. But dominate? What about equals?

Modifié par aldien, 17 mars 2013 - 05:10 .

[Hazegurl]

Aroihkin wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

As, IMO Male Hawke is bigger  and therefore would be the top in the relationship.

What? XD

I think there's several reasons Hawke seems to be "leading the dance", as it were. (At least at first.) But "the height rule" is something that... is about as grounded in reality as self-lubricating butts.

Someone can certainly have a preference for topping shorter dudes or being topped by taller dudes, of course! But the idea that tall = top is just silly. Same goes for the idea that one guy is in the "girl" role, which is related to the idea that one dude is always on the bottom and the other is always on top. XD Personal preferences aside (some guys just don't like both sides of the coin, 's all cool) that's not particularly standard.

They gave the "I guess I don't have to ask which of you is the girl" line to Gamlen to make fun of that whole thing, you know. XD

lol! it's just how I personally like it. Taller/bigger man = Top. It just looks kind of funny to see the skinny shorter man topping the big guy. That's why I got a kick out of Varric asking Fenris if Hawke swept him off his feet and that it would be awakard if Fenris did the sweeping cause of Hawke's height. 

When did Gamlen say that? Is that during a Male Hawke/Fenris romance or Female Hawke/Fenris? Gotta love Gamlen. LOL!

Aldien wrote: This is a new one and I've read a ton of reason why MHawke and Fenris should
be together. Do you ever skip dialogue options before the first kiss? If your computer glitches or hesitates it also messes it up. If any of that happens, the position of their lips can change from kissing on the
lips to looking like she is kissing his neck. There is a height difference between Fenris and FHawke as well, and yes, they used the same animation.

. He's incredibly masculine in the way he moves and the way he speaks. Actually, I made my MHawke quite sweet this pt. By all rights, Fenris would be the tougher one in that relationship. But dominate? What
about equals?

No, I don't think I skipped any dialouge. It was my first time playing a femHawke so I wanted to see if they changed what was said. I think they both start out kissing his lips then move to the neck. I wish they didn't use the same animation. I would have liked it if Fenris was kissing FemHawke's neck instead. But who can resist that long neck.

I agree. Fenris is very masculine. But I guess I'm a bit old school yaoi. I don't like extremely fem males that might as well be real women. But I do like the top/bottom dynamic, especially when one man is much bigger than the other. It doesn't mean they aren't equals in the relationship, but in the bedroom, I like to think Hawke is the top. However, I can't help but see Fenris as the feisty one in the relationship, I loved his complaining in the Legacy dlc, and I ditched Tallis in Mark of the Assassin because Fenris was happy she was gone.  Also, my Hawke tends to follow his advice...perhaps a little too much. I killed Keran because Fenris said he would kill anyone who used one of us to threaten Hawke. If Fenris said kill them. Hawke did. I would certainly say that Fenris was the boss of that relationship.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 17 mars 2013 - 06:57 .

[aldien]

Hazegurl wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

As, IMO Male Hawke is bigger  and therefore would be the top in the relationship.

What? XD

I think there's several reasons Hawke seems to be "leading the dance", as it were. (At least at first.) But "the height rule" is something that... is about as grounded in reality as self-lubricating butts.

Someone can certainly have a preference for topping shorter dudes or being topped by taller dudes, of course! But the idea that tall = top is just silly. Same goes for the idea that one guy is in the "girl" role, which is related to the idea that one dude is always on the bottom and the other is always on top. XD Personal preferences aside (some guys just don't like both sides of the coin, 's all cool) that's not particularly standard.

They gave the "I guess I don't have to ask which of you is the girl" line to Gamlen to make fun of that whole thing, you know. XD

lol! it's just how I personally like it. Taller/bigger man = Top. It just looks kind of funny to see the skinny shorter man topping the big guy. That's why I got a kick out of Varric asking Fenris if Hawke swept him off his feet and that it would be awakard if Fenris did the sweeping cause of Hawke's height. 

When did Gamlen say that? Is that during a Male Hawke/Fenris romance or Female Hawke/Fenris? Gotta love Gamlen. LOL!

Aldien wrote: This is a new one and I've read a ton of reason why MHawke and Fenris should
be together. Do you ever skip dialogue options before the first kiss? If your computer glitches or hesitates it also messes it up. If any of that happens, the position of their lips can change from kissing on the
lips to looking like she is kissing his neck. There is a height difference between Fenris and FHawke as well, and yes, they used the same animation.

. He's incredibly masculine in the way he moves and the way he speaks. Actually, I made my MHawke quite sweet this pt. By all rights, Fenris would be the tougher one in that relationship. But dominate? What
about equals?

No, I don't think I skipped any dialouge. It was my first time playing a femHawke so I wanted to see if they changed what was said. I think they both start out kissing his lips then move to the neck. I wish they didn't use the same animation. I would have liked it if Fenris was kissing FemHawke's neck instead. But who can resist that long neck.

I agree. Fenris is very masculine. But I guess I'm a bit old school yaoi. I don't like extremely fem males that might as well be real women. But I do like the top/bottom dynamic, especially when one man is much bigger than the other. It doesn't mean they aren't equals in the relationship, but in the bedroom, I like to think Hawke is the top. However, I can't help but see Fenris as the feisty one in the relationship, I loved his complaining in the Legacy dlc, and I ditched Tallis in Mark of the Assassin because Fenris was happy she was gone.  Also, my Hawke tends to follow his advice...perhaps a little too much. I killed Keran because Fenris said he would kill anyone who used one of us to threaten Hawke. If Fenris said kill them. Hawke did. I would certainly say that Fenris was the boss of that relationship.

I understand now. I suspect lots of people have that preference for special alone time between Hawke and Fenris. I still don't think it is physically possible but I will shut up because everyone has heard that argument from me before. I also think FHawke might be a bit disappointed in that department as well. But you overlook things when you love someone.

Hawke is a pushover in the Merrill pt I just finished. Pfffffft silly man. He should have let the Dalish kill her. She's just so damn annoying! I think that is why, atm, I see him as I do. I'll have to try a rivalmance next.

I hate Tallis :/ I think you are forced to flirt with her at least once to get Fenris's additional dialogue.

Modifié par aldien, 17 mars 2013 - 08:59 .

[coldwetn0se]

@aldien - You described m!Hawkes voice (and personalities) aptly! And this is why I am having such a hard time with my new f!Hawke...blarg! She sounds deranged....seriously. >.<

As for Malcolm Hawke, I just like teasing you (ya know I DO follow your fic, my precious. *grin*). Still not terribly interested in Papa Hawke, since ya know, I role play his child.. XD

I still like Isabella's romance, but the content for it in Act 3 (not the end game content, mind you) is kind of underwhelming. However, I romanced her with a bi-sexual man, very sarcastic and into "whatever" (he got a little sumthin'-sumthin' from Jethan, took the big gigolo at the Blooming Rose for a spin, and had a three-way with Zevran and Issy during the "Murder of Crows" quest). BTW, this was my Ezriel Hawke...yummy.

As for the whole top/bottom thing....nup. I don't restrict my m!Hawkes who romance Fenris with a specific sexual "role". I imagine different goings on (for different Hawke/Fenris'), but never anything so....errr....finite or rigid as "top" and "bottom". I have written some things out regarding bedroom shenanigans between m!Hawke and Fenris (and f!Hawk and Fenris), but haven't bothered to ever post it anywhere (like the DA kinkmeme, tumblr, or fanfic.net). I don't see the size difference as a problem. And @aldien, I still don't get what you can't "see" regarding the physical sexual capabilities of m!Hawke and Fenris.....maybe I missed that "arguement". LOL

BTW, I still haven't been able to get into my DerpyHawke that was meant for Merrill....*shrug* Maybe one day.....

[mnomaha]

Aroihkin wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

As, IMO Male Hawke is bigger  and therefore would be the top in the relationship.

What? XD

I think there's several reasons Hawke seems to be "leading the dance", as it were. (At least at first.) But "the height rule" is something that... is about as grounded in reality as self-lubricating butts.

Someone can certainly have a preference for topping shorter dudes or being topped by taller dudes, of course! But the idea that tall = top is just silly. Same goes for the idea that one guy is in the "girl" role, which is related to the idea that one dude is always on the bottom and the other is always on top. XD Personal preferences aside (some guys just don't like both sides of the coin, 's all cool) that's not particularly standard.

They gave the "I guess I don't have to ask which of you is the girl" line to Gamlen to make fun of that whole thing, you know. XD

You owe me a new monitor, or at least another serving of noodles. Too funny!!!!!

[Dutchess]

Hazegurl wrote...

When did Gamlen say that? Is that during a Male Hawke/Fenris romance or Female Hawke/Fenris? Gotta love Gamlen. LOL!

It happens with a male Hawke in act 3. I'm not sure if you should have completed Fenris' QB quest for it to occur, but if you click on Gamlen, he can utter that line. It might take a few clickies before you get, because Gamlen has more nonsense to say (not about Fenris).

aldien wrote...

I still don't think it is physically possible but I will shut up because everyone has heard that argument from me before. I also think FHawke might be a bit disappointed in that department as well. But you overlook things when you love someone.

Did you just... come in here to say that you think Fenris has a tiny weeny? 

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Coldy said: @aldien - You described m!Hawkes voice (and personalities) aptly! And this is why I am having such a hard time with my new f!Hawke...blarg! She sounds deranged....seriously. >.<

She does and there will be a dialogue option like: Do you like pancakes? And she will end up saying something like: I do indeed own a strap on. I'm like whaaaaaa?????? That's not what I chose!

As for Malcolm Hawke, I just like teasing you (ya know I DO follow your fic, my precious. *grin*). Still not terribly interested in Papa Hawke, since ya know, I role play his child.. XD

*blushes* Andraste's ****** woman you would bring that up! I don't think of Hawke when I write. That would get weird and fast. But I know some people do and I can understand how it would be difficult for them to see Malcolm as anything other than the father. So... I guess I shouldn't post the chapter where Malcolm has possessed sex with Amelia? Let me clarify... Amelia is Hawke's friend not Malcolm's daughter. I just know someone would get the wrong idea, like Ren. This is your fault Coldy.

Where is your derpy Hawke for Merrill? After my last pt I don't think she even deserves a derpy Hawke.

And you still owe us PDH!!!!!!!!!

@aldien, I still don't get what you can't "see" regarding the physical sexual capabilities of m!Hawke and Fenris.....maybe I missed that "arguement". LOL

This is usually one of those strange ramblings that starts an argument. I think that Fenris and Merrill have small pelvises which could be a problem during intercourse. I also think that ummmmm Hawke would never be able to reach maximum penetration not without doing some internal damage. Hawke is a big guy as in muscular with large frame and uh maybe other large things. And I'm talking about male and female elves not just Fenris. That's how I see it. Ren says otherwise. She's all about the stretching....

Ren said: Did you just... come in here to say that you think Fenris has a tiny weeny?smilie smilie

LMAO at you Ren. :lol::lol:It's not that he has a tiny weeny. Loook!!!!!!!! If you notice the size of a female elf compared to a male there isn't much difference. I'm saying he was made with a certain proportion in mind. I'm not saying it is useless.Just... you know, it may not be what Hawke is used to receiving

Modifié par aldien, 18 mars 2013 - 01:18 .

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aldien wrote...

Coldy said: @aldien - You described m!Hawkes voice (and personalities) aptly! And this is why I am having such a hard time with my new f!Hawke...blarg! She sounds deranged....seriously. >.<

She does and there will be a dialogue option like: Do you like pancakes? And she will end up saying something like: I do indeed own a strap on. I'm like whaaaaaa?????? That's not what I chose!

 I have no words.

As for Malcolm Hawke, I just like teasing you (ya know I DO follow your fic, my precious. *grin*). Still not terribly interested in Papa Hawke, since ya know, I role play his child.. XD

*blushes* Andraste's ****** woman you would bring that up! I don't think of Hawke when I write. That would get weird and fast. But I know some people do and I can understand how it would be difficult for them to see Malcolm as anything other than the father. So... I guess I shouldn't post the chapter where Malcolm has possessed sex with Amelia? Let me clarify... Amelia is Hawke's friend not Malcolm's daughter. I just know someone would get the wrong idea, like Ren. This is your fault Coldy.

Where is your derpy Hawke for Merrill? After my last pt I don't think she even deserves a derpy Hawke.

And you still owe us PDH!!!!!!!!!

Don't you DARE leave out anything in your fic...bah!  You sensitive writer types.  LOL! And yes, I am aware that Amelia is NOT Hawke in the story....hehe. I just don't tend to see Papa in that context, since the only interaction (which isn't exactly interaction) I get is through Mama Hawkes ramblings, and a disembodied voice in the Legacy DLC....and all while playing as one of his children.  I don't view your current line of storytelling (with Amelia, for example) as incestual in the slightest...hehe!

What Ren may think is between her and her god(s).

@aldien, I still don't get what you can't "see" regarding the physical sexual capabilities of m!Hawke and Fenris.....maybe I missed that "arguement". LOL

This is usually one of those strange ramblings that starts an argument. I think that Fenris and Merrill have small pelvises which could be a problem during intercourse. I also think that ummmmm Hawke would never be able to reach maximum penetration not without doing some internal damage. Hawke is a big guy as in muscular with large frame and uh maybe other large things. And I'm talking about male and female elves not just Fenris. That's how I see it. Ren says otherwise. She's all about the stretching....

Ren said: Did you just... come in here to say that you think Fenris has a tiny weeny?smilie smilie

LMAO at you Ren. :lol::lol:It's not that he has a tiny weeny. Loook!!!!!!!! If you notice the size of a female elf compared to a male there isn't much difference. I'm saying he was made with a certain proportion in mind. I'm not saying it is useless.Just... you know, it may not be what Hawke is used to receiving

Sorry, but you deserve the double nose bridge pinching emoticon, my dear.... LAWL.  Going to have to go with Ren on this.  Having been privy to a number of pairings not remotely close in size (both of the f/m and m/m kind), I know for a fact that this would not be an issue....unless you are imagining Hawke as akin to 6'8'' or larger, and hung like a Rhino...then we might have some issues. And come to think of it, that may be just what you are imagining...?

I might suggest visual aids to understand the dynamics better, and if I thought I wouldn't get banned (or you running away scared...LOL) I would get a bit more descriptive on such matters.
Because the game doesn't allow us to change Hawke's body type, I have to "imagine" for myself, how my different Hawke's are, physically speaking.  Just looking at the game visuals, Hawke may be broader/wider than Fenris, but size wise they are not that far apart.  And height wise, they are very close (again, I mean strictly on the in-game visuals). The only time m!Hawke really looks significantly more "swollen" than Fenris (or any of the other characters) is when he is sporting the Champion armor...and even then, it is only in the Mage armor (since it shows a bare arm).  In fact, the bare arm on the Champion armor is SOOO large, it kinda freaks me out! LOL  Now I can't use that armor on m!Hawke, if he is a mage....seriously, I will get you a pic of Castor Hawke in that getup....too funny! LOL

As for Fenris' "other" size.....well, I can imagine that as well, in sooo many ways.  HA! I have some first hand experience with height/frame not equating to the pink bits, so imagining Fen being well enough endowed, isn't difficult. I caught a movie a few weeks back on one of the movie channels.  This movie had a nudist who walked around the entire movie in the buff.  Based on knowing how tall (in general) the other actors were, I knew he was no taller than about 5'6'' (and very likely shorter by an inch or two).  The point is, this gentleman was definately larger than average.  Just saying....LOL