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[evil_blond_goth]

lol yeah I got that sense too with Seb, maybe thats why he joined he knew he had some kinks and was scared by them and thus hid in the chantry

[okiness]

I will intervene to say Gaider ALSO thought of rivalmance first. So isn't kind of funny, and fitting, if you think about it? The default M!Hawke who is a mage beating Fenris' ideas down. And F!Hawke being the accepting and loving one. I'm fine with that, as a FHawke person. Personally I don't mind MHawke x Fenris, I just PREFER FHawke as a girl. I'm sick of the whole MAN WHO SAVES THE WORLD hooray trope. I like how strong they made FHawke, so I prefer the game as a whole with her in it.

Just me though XD

[evil_blond_goth]

I am about to play the whole mage fem hawke rivalmancing fenris, ohh all for strong women I just would have likeed Hawke not matter the sex to have started off as ususure and built up their confidance over time rather the I am better than sliced bread with.... (add fave tooping) ...on, right off from the start. lol I can see why Carver was a wee bit peeved.

I might play a hawk who romances Merril, cause from some of the vids I have seen I get the inkeling that Carver kinda likes her....and I want to peeve him off

[coldwetn0se]

Well Aldy, I'm gonna have a go!! LOLOL Cha...right! Who loves ya, lady?!?

Nahh......you know me. I like Fen for all. I have just as many M!Hawkes and F!Hawkes, but that is starting to sway to the men. Main reason; I can't seem to connect to F!Hawkes "mood swings"....LOL!
XD

I tend to RP in a way that has me using all of the various tones (I often have a slightly more dominant tone, but still choose others as well). I decide the type of character I am RPing, then choose the dialogue option best suited for that PC and for that particular moment/set of circumstances. Problem is, F!Hawke has a wildly changing voice between the tones, where as M!Hawke doesn't. So, this makes F!Hawke sound a bit.....mmmmm...unstable. LOL

Interestingly enough, I prefer a f!Warden and a F!Shep.....*shrug*

[Dutchess]

aldien wrote...

Let's see if I can explain where I am coming from here.... You little monster!

LMAO, said the dragon lady.

I don't think Fenris derives his pride from his markings. He hates the markings but he also realizes without them he would still be a slave and he takes pride in the fact that he did get away from Danarius.

You know, my interpretation turns it around. I think that because of his pride, he will say "I don't need those markings, they don't define my worth, despite what Danarius might have thought". Removing them doesn't take away from the fact that he escaped and killed Danarius. I don't have the impression that Fenris would want to keep the markings as some kind of honorable reminder of all that, especially if the stupid things are killing him. 

Yes, he would still be able to fight like any swordsman, but I do think he likes to be different from other elves.

Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. It is never literally brought up, only in passing like that the markings would show through any kind of clothing he might wear, so that he will always stand out. I don't think Fenris likes to stand out. Of course while Danarius is alive he doesn't like it because people might recognize him and alert the magister, but... I don't know, I have the feeling he sees himself more as a freak due to his appearance. People must give him odd looks all the time, and that must get tiresome. He has learned to let it slide and not really bother him (he thinks it funny the merchants look at him as if he is about to steal something), but I still don't believe that he really enjoys being so different from others, especially not because it is due to something that was not his choice. You can probably compare it to tattoos. Some people are covered with it from neck to toes and are proud of it. But if your mother had you tattooed all over when you were a child and had no say in it, I think you're not so proud of those tattoos and don't like that people stare at you and treat you differently because of it. 

Also, I wonder if he would worry Hawke would not be as confident in him. His lyrium talent is an intregal part to his warrior skill. I suppose he could learn templar abilities or reaver abilities but to get rid of his lyrium talent, I think would be a blow to Fenris's confidence.

With that I do agree. Hawke's respect means a lot to him, but with some effort from Hawke's side, he/she should be able to convince Fenris that it won't matter in their eyes. And although of course his fighting style is heavily influenced by the markings, he is still far from helpless without them, and I think that's crucial here, especially because Danarius is no longer a problem. Will Fenris think they would still be at risk and need to fight a lot? That's probably likely when you hook up with a trouble magnet like Hawke, LOL, but Fenris and Hawke likely want some rest after the turbulent years in Kirkwall, so how needed will Fenris' fighting skill be? That depends on everybody's personal imagination I guess.

So... the idea in my head was that after so many years those markings must be maintained. Obviously Fenris can go at least ten years without it being necessary. Maybe longer. But then he loses those years once the markings are maintained. I had to decide if he would rather die than keep forgetting. Chose death. But it's all hypothetical nonsense.

Ah, I see, you imagine that the maintenance will have to be repeated several times. I went with the idea that it's a one-time-thing, caused by Danarius' death. 

aldien wrote...

Oh Maker's breath. You just opened a can of worms! The number of times I have been told off for saying I don't see Fenris as gay is astronomical. One person will say he is bisexual and be very pushy about it, which is fine because every LI is bisexual in the game. Another person will almost come out and call you homophopic because Gaider said he had a male Hawke in mind when he wrote Fenris. Some people will respect your opinion and give their own. (Those are my favorite people). Some people will mention yaoi and others will have a go at you for saying he came across heterosexual in the game. If I had never read that article or come on this forum I would have believed him to be heterosexual because, until recently, I always played as FHawke. I had no idea MHawke could flirt with him.

THE MAN SPARKLES AND GLOWS IN THE DARK, OF COURSE HE'S INTO MEN, DUHH!!! HOW COULD YOU NOT GET THAT?! 

:innocent:Now I'm probably not one of your favourite persons anymore?

LOL, okay, and now more serious: my first playthrough and thus Fenris romance was with a female Hawke, and I never got a really specific vibe from Fenris. I have done the romance with a guy Hawke as well, and I find both believable and enjoyable. Female Hawke offers the perspective of a potential future as a family, and I do like that idea. Male Hawke and Feris end up a little "lonelier" in that regard. Unless they adopt a house full of orphans, of course. I don't see that happening with my specific male Hawke, but again others are free to have their own interpretation. I believe gender isn't that important in the Fenris romance. He falls for the person Hawke is, for the first person he is able to place trust in. Whether Hawke is a man or a woman, Fenris learns what it's like to be loved and to love instead of hate. 


A new Fenris with wine bottle from ekocentric!

[evil_blond_goth]

lol but I bet many Toreadors sparkle, does not mean that they will go with just anyone. 

[aldien]

In my strange opinion, I don't think Hawke feels she/he is better than slice bread. I think Hawke is proud because of what the parents have instilled in Hawke and I think it is a good thing. Hawke is the eldest and has had to endure more than the twins. The family was always on the run and terrified Papa Hawke and possibly little Hawke were going to be captured by the templars. That's not an easy life. So you have to hold on to something. I don't think Leandra or Malcolm wanted to appear apologetic for their choices in front of their eldest. They wanted little Hawke to be confident so that he/she would not be pushed around by the world like they had been. I'd want my own daughter to be proud and to think for herself, and in the case of the Hawke family I would want him/her to be strong. I guess that can come across as arrogant, but depending on how you play Hawke, I often see a person who has always had to be responsible. Carver has the option to be a ****** and Bethany has had the luxury of being protected, but Hawke is expected to endure. Everyone is depending on Hawke to get them though hell and back. If you really examine the family you realize it really sucks to be Hawke.

I'm being a bit of a ****** Coldy. I llove you back. LOL! If this is a go at me then I'm relieved. I was thinking of you and Ren when I mentioned people who accept others opinions and then give their own. Well more you than Ren. She's evil.

FHawke was my first DA experience. It wasn't until I fell in love with Papa Hawke's voice and then Garrett's body that I noticed how, like you say, mood swing-ish her voice is. I love FHawke because she is the first strong woman I have ever encountered in a game. It's not Mr. Hero and his love interest but Hawke and her heroism. That was a big deal for me. But! Her voice has gotten to me and I do prefer to play MHawke. I can't, however see MHawke and Fenris together. I can do MHawke and Anders but not Fenris. *shrugs*

Coldy said: I tend to RP in a way that has me using all of the various tones (I often have a slightly more dominant tone, but still choose others as well). I decide the type of character I am RPing, then choose the dialogue option best suited for that PC and for that particular moment/set of circumstances. Problem is, F!Hawke has a wildly changing voice between the tones, where as M!Hawke doesn't. So, this makes F!Hawke sound a bit.....mmmmm...unstable. LOL

Interestingly enough, I prefer a f!Warden and a F!Shep.....*shrug*

The way you play has always appealed to me.My Hawke's response is always based on what is happening. The logic behind it. That is what I get from your explanation and it makes sense LOL! in my brain anyway. Hmmm I may have just inadvertently insulted you

My fwarden always wanted Morrigan and then Alistair, then Zev. *pets Zev* My Mwarden always wanted Zev and then Morrigan. What's this craziness???? DA does strange things to people.

Dragon lady? LOL! It is fitting. *pulls out voodoo doll with an eerie likeness of Ren's avatar and starts poking it *Muwahahaha.

Hmmmmm do you think Fenris is disconnected with his own race? He is so eloquent compared to the other elves in Kirkwall. Maybe that is just Kirkwall, but he doesn't have that apologetic or beaten down mentality like the other elves in the DA universe. Or is this just me?

So you mentioned they would want a rest after Kirkwall... I agree. But here's the thing youngin'... Hawke is what? In his/her 30's by the time the last battle in Kirkwall takes place? When you get into your thirties you know what happens? You know who you are but your body starts to give out on you. LOL! It's true. Don't even try to deny it old people on here, myself included. Hawke probably has back problems or the arthritis has set in. The fighting days are over. Fenris takes up knitting doilies. The good old days are done. Retirement!

Someone suggested that maybe once Fenris masters his lyrium talent that he can maintain the markings or has been without realizing it. I guess anything is possible when it comes to our little glowworm.

THE MAN SPARKLES AND GLOWS IN THE DARK, OF COURSE HE'S INTO MEN, DUHH!!! HOW COULD YOU NOT GET THAT?!

You can get condoms and dildos that do that... and they are not limited by gender Wait... are you referring to something else? Coldy what does the bad woman mean? Anders sparkles too. Ewww.

Wait... you are assuming you were one of my favorite people! LOL! *hugs evil youngin')

I believe gender isn't that important in the Fenris romance. He falls for the person Hawke is, for the first person he is able to place trust in. Whether Hawke is a man or a woman, Fenris learns what it's like to be loved and to love instead of hate.


Very well said. Why couldn't you have said that when people were picking on me months ago????? You like to see me suffer!

You say you didn't get a vibe about his sexual preference but what about Isabela? Don't have a go at me. I'm serious. If you play this game out of the box and have never played DA and you romance Fenris as a woman, it seems to suggest he likes women because he flirts back with her and they have sex in Act III if Hawke chooses someone else. What was I supposed to think????????? Did I ever mention I hate the 'Fenris's sexual preference topic?'

I'm going to tell Eko you are posting her work. She's going to charge commission!

Modifié par aldien, 23 avril 2013 - 12:04 .

[Hazegurl]

evil_blond_goth wrote...

They can have a go at me if they like, as you say each to thier own, shame on anyone if they assume my sexuality and so my views on teh matter

what of the other scenarios, in a different life I could totaly see Fenris being a bit like Danarius if he had the oppotunity and power and had not been a slave. I should imagen i shall get chewed up and spat out for holding this opinion too. I say this purly as I have hung about in the BDSM community and I can see similar dominate personality bellow the taught submissiveness in game.

Not having a go at you and I don't think anyone would as I sort of see this thread as dominately FHawke X Fenris. Maybe cause I've arrived late.

I think everyone should enjoy the game however it pleases them to. What's the point of BioWare giving us all choices if all we're going to do is play just like everyone else? With that said. I've always played the Male Hawke although I'm a woman. It's odd because I love picking females for all my other games but Bioware games. lol! (I love BroShep over FemShep). I've grown attached to Fenris in game and love his interactions with MHawke and thus I view Fenris as only being gay. Even if the creators replied saying Fenris is bisexual I wouldn't buy it because I've only romanced Fenris and since FHawke and MHawke can't exist in the same world for Fenris to fall for then I can't see him as bi.  I don't even get the FHawke Fenris pics posted of them having kids. Just look like Fen hanging out with some pregnant chick he's fond of.

As for Gaider mentioning how he wrote Fenris for MHawke, I'm actually glad he did because not many gay relationships in games are written for a homosexual relationship. They are all typically written straight with nothing but changed pronouns and usually those who have enjoyed the gay aspects of the romance would have to be beaten over the head with comments such as "X is truely meant for a woman!!! He is NOT GAY!!!!"  Or my favorite concerning Kaidan from ME3 "It just feels so forced because suddenly he's gay and he wasn't for the other games." I really wish BioWare had not chickened out and just kept the gay content in from the first game so these people would just shut the heck up. So yeah I enjoy a little role reversal and Gaider coming out and saying how he wrote Fenris was a welcomed change.

Although I will admit that the most interesting description of Fenris's sexuality I've read was when someone called him a demisexual. Meaning that he is not attracted to anyone unless he becomes deeply connected to the indivdual. I can actually see that.

Now perhaps I could get chewed out for this....actually I think I was already...but I want to go in the BDSM thing with Fenris. First let me say that my personal kink for straight relationships is to have the man as the dominate one and in homosexual relationships, the bigger man takes the dominate role.

I agree that I can see Fenris as having a very dominate personality type and perhaps this is my own kink slipping through but this is why I didn't enjoy watching Fenris get "dominated" by FHawke in their love scene, just didn't look right at all (although I didn't mind MHawke "dominating" Fenris in the same scene...the whole bigger man thing). Although Fenris is dominated by both Hawkes in the love scenes I still see Fenris as more controlling in other aspects of the relationship. He is always the first to open his mouth with an opinion and trying to tell Hawke what should be done, sometimes I like bringing the elf girl in as a slave just to tell Fenris that I don't have to do everything he tells me to. LOL! If I were to go a little darker, I can actually see Fenris as the type who would be into bloodletting and whipping his lovers. Maybe its the outfit, maybe its the rage. Could he be jealous of the power Danarius held over him?  If so, Maybe he's really jealous of the power blood mages get through blood....okay let me stop before I sink into an even deeper hole.

[okiness]

It's not about dominating to me. I don't think of Fenris dominating being an inner thing- I think it's a secret kink for him because he has only been controlled. On that note, ALL MY FENHAWKE PORN IS WRITTEN WITH FHAWKE ON BOTTOM.

All of eet.

[aldien]

Hazegurl wrote...

evil_blond_goth wrote...

They can have a go at me if they like, as you say each to thier own, shame on anyone if they assume my sexuality and so my views on teh matter

what of the other scenarios, in a different life I could totaly see Fenris being a bit like Danarius if he had the oppotunity and power and had not been a slave. I should imagen i shall get chewed up and spat out for holding this opinion too. I say this purly as I have hung about in the BDSM community and I can see similar dominate personality bellow the taught submissiveness in game.

Not having a go at you and I don't think anyone would as I sort of see this thread as dominately FHawke X Fenris. Maybe cause I've arrived late.

I think everyone should enjoy the game however it pleases them to. What's the point of BioWare giving us all choices if all we're going to do is play just like everyone else? With that said. I've always played the Male Hawke although I'm a woman. It's odd because I love picking females for all my other games but Bioware games. lol! (I love BroShep over FemShep). I've grown attached to Fenris in game and love his interactions with MHawke and thus I view Fenris as only being gay. Even if the creators replied saying Fenris is bisexual I wouldn't buy it because I've only romanced Fenris and since FHawke and MHawke can't exist in the same world for Fenris to fall for then I can't see him as bi.  I don't even get the FHawke Fenris pics posted of them having kids. Just look like Fen hanging out with some pregnant chick he's fond of.

As for Gaider mentioning how he wrote Fenris for MHawke, I'm actually glad he did because not many gay relationships in games are written for a homosexual relationship. They are all typically written straight with nothing but changed pronouns and usually those who have enjoyed the gay aspects of the romance would have to be beaten over the head with comments such as "X is truely meant for a woman!!! He is NOT GAY!!!!"  Or my favorite concerning Kaidan from ME3 "It just feels so forced because suddenly he's gay and he wasn't for the other games." I really wish BioWare had not chickened out and just kept the gay content in from the first game so these people would just shut the heck up. So yeah I enjoy a little role reversal and Gaider coming out and saying how he wrote Fenris was a welcomed change.

Although I will admit that the most interesting description of Fenris's sexuality I've read was when someone called him a demisexual. Meaning that he is not attracted to anyone unless he becomes deeply connected to the indivdual. I can actually see that.

Now perhaps I could get chewed out for this....actually I think I was already...but I want to go in the BDSM thing with Fenris. First let me say that my personal kink for straight relationships is to have the man as the dominate one and in homosexual relationships, the bigger man takes the dominate role.

I agree that I can see Fenris as having a very dominate personality type and perhaps this is my own kink slipping through but this is why I didn't enjoy watching Fenris get "dominated" by FHawke in their love scene, just didn't look right at all (although I didn't mind MHawke "dominating" Fenris in the same scene...the whole bigger man thing). Although Fenris is dominated by both Hawkes in the love scenes I still see Fenris as more controlling in other aspects of the relationship. He is always the first to open his mouth with an opinion and trying to tell Hawke what should be done, sometimes I like bringing the elf girl in as a slave just to tell Fenris that I don't have to do everything he tells me to. LOL! If I were to go a little darker, I can actually see Fenris as the type who would be into bloodletting and whipping his lovers. Maybe its the outfit, maybe its the rage. Could he be jealous of the power Danarius held over him?  If so, Maybe he's really jealous of the power blood mages get through blood....okay let me stop before I sink into an even deeper hole.

You arrived late? People come and go on here. Some times it may seem to swing one way and then the other, but I don't think anyone on here  is going to have a go at you, I mean unless you want them to I've been around long enough to ****** everyone off. Ren prefers MHawke and Fenris, Coldy is free love and I prefer FHawke and Fenris. Wait... I just realized the three of us represent each taste of Fenris. o_O The Fenris Buffet!

I don't even get the FHawke Fenris pics posted of them having kids.
Just look like Fen hanging out with some pregnant chick he's fond of. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

It's alright. When I see MHawke and Fenris standing next to each other in picture I always think it looks like a grown man and a teenage boy. I have to say that is another reason why MHawke and Fenris together doesn't appeal to me.

The reason why Gaider's statement annoyed me was because it broke the immersion for me. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. People always jump to that conclusion when I say it.  Just like you, I see Fenris with a specific Hawke gender. When I play a roleplaying game I don't want to know what the writer had in mind especially if it can possibly change my perception of a character within the game. A book is different, but this is a roleplaying game! I want to make up my own story in my head. I didn't go looking for the article. It was presented to me by a friend ages ago. But I have had it used against me when I state my preference. Oh noes! Fenris and a girl! Ewww.....

I like bringing the elf girl in as a slave just to tell Fenris that I
don't have to do everything he tells me to. LOL!

ROFL you are so naughty! I like it.

If I were to go a
little darker, I can actually see Fenris as the type who would be into
bloodletting and whipping his lovers. Maybe its the outfit, maybe its
the rage. Could he be jealous of the power Danarius held over him?  If
so, Maybe he's really jealous of the power blood mages get through
blood....okay let me stop before I sink into an even deeper hole.

There was someone else... I can't for the life of me remember, but they were into this idea too. Why can't you people ever talk about DA characters collecting stuffed animals in their spare time???

Modifié par aldien, 23 avril 2013 - 01:55 .

[Hazegurl]

aldien wrote...

You arrived late? People come and go on here. Some times it may seem to swing one way and then the other, but I don't think anyone on here  is going to have a go at you, I mean unless you want them to I've been around long enough to ****** everyone off. Ren prefers MHawke and Fenris, Coldy is free love and I prefer FHawke and Fenris. Wait... I just realized the three of us represent each taste of Fenris. o_O The Fenris Buffet!

That's good to hear. I thought since I've arrive 2000+ pages in I must have missed all the juicy topics.   and I'm loving the idea of the Fenris buffet!

It's alright. When I see MHawke and Fenris standing next to each other in picture I always think it looks like a grown man and a teenage boy. I have to say that is another reason why MHawke and Fenris together doesn't appeal to me.

 Curse Fenris's boyish good looks! Is it wrong of me to admit that I wouldn't mind reading a fic about Fenris as some tortured teen who falls in love with his mentor/savior MHawke?

The reason why Gaider's statement annoyed me was because it broke the immersion for me. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. People always jump to that conclusion when I say it.  Just like you, I see Fenris with a specific Hawke gender. When I play a roleplaying game I don't want to know what the writer had in mind especially if it can possibly change my perception of a character within the game. A book is different, but this is a roleplaying game! I want to make up my own story in my head. I didn't go looking for the article. It was presented to me by a friend ages ago. But I have had it used against me when I state my preference. Oh noes! Fenris and a girl! Ewww.....

I get it. It can break the roleplaying. Just like Bioware mentioning that Synthesis was the true ending or something. I don't like being told what I was supposed to pick to have a canon story.

I like bringing the elf girl in as a slave just to tell Fenris that I
don't have to do everything he tells me to. LOL!

ROFL you are so naughty! I like it.

lol!! Yeah I pretty much take what I can get outta this game and if I have to bring in a slave just to finally tell Fenris that I don't have to listen to him I would...but I let her go when I get home...most of the time.

There was someone else... I can't for the life of me remember, but they were into this idea too. Why can't you people ever talk about DA characters collecting stuffed animals in their spare time???

But licking blood and whipping the backside of their lovers is just so much more fun.

[evil_blond_goth]

Hazegurl wrote...


Not having a go at you and I don't think anyone would as I sort of see this thread as dominately FHawke X Fenris. Maybe cause I've arrived late.

I think everyone should enjoy the game however it pleases them to. What's the point of BioWare giving us all choices if all we're going to do is play just like everyone else? With that said. I've always played the Male Hawke although I'm a woman. It's odd because I love picking females for all my other games but Bioware games. lol! (I love BroShep over FemShep). I've grown attached to Fenris in game and love his interactions with MHawke and thus I view Fenris as only being gay. Even if the creators replied saying Fenris is bisexual I wouldn't buy it because I've only romanced Fenris and since FHawke and MHawke can't exist in the same world for Fenris to fall for then I can't see him as bi. I don't even get the FHawke Fenris pics posted of them having kids. Just look like Fen hanging out with some pregnant chick he's fond of.

As for Gaider mentioning how he wrote Fenris for MHawke, I'm actually glad he did because not many gay relationships in games are written for a homosexual relationship. They are all typically written straight with nothing but changed pronouns and usually those who have enjoyed the gay aspects of the romance would have to be beaten over the head with comments such as "X is truely meant for a woman!!! He is NOT GAY!!!!" Or my favorite concerning Kaidan from ME3 "It just feels so forced because suddenly he's gay and he wasn't for the other games." I really wish BioWare had not chickened out and just kept the gay content in from the first game so these people would just shut the heck up. So yeah I enjoy a little role reversal and Gaider coming out and saying how he wrote Fenris was a welcomed change.

Although I will admit that the most interesting description of Fenris's sexuality I've read was when someone called him a demisexual. Meaning that he is not attracted to anyone unless he becomes deeply connected to the indivdual. I can actually see that.

Now perhaps I could get chewed out for this....actually I think I was already...but I want to go in the BDSM thing with Fenris. First let me say that my personal kink for straight relationships is to have the man as the dominate one and in homosexual relationships, the bigger man takes the dominate role.

I agree that I can see Fenris as having a very dominate personality type and perhaps this is my own kink slipping through but this is why I didn't enjoy watching Fenris get "dominated" by FHawke in their love scene, just didn't look right at all (although I didn't mind MHawke "dominating" Fenris in the same scene...the whole bigger man thing). Although Fenris is dominated by both Hawkes in the love scenes I still see Fenris as more controlling in other aspects of the relationship. He is always the first to open his mouth with an opinion and trying to tell Hawke what should be done, sometimes I like bringing the elf girl in as a slave just to tell Fenris that I don't have to do everything he tells me to. LOL! If I were to go a little darker, I can actually see Fenris as the type who would be into bloodletting and whipping his lovers. Maybe its the outfit, maybe its the rage. Could he be jealous of the power Danarius held over him? If so, Maybe he's really jealous of the power blood mages get through blood....okay let me stop before I sink into an even deeper hole.

I was not accusing anyone one of having a go just saying that if anyone felt that strongly to go ahead, I give as good as I get.

Yeah I felt Fenris should have taken more control in the love Fem Hawke love scenes too, not played a a fella yet but from what I have seen of Male Hawke size wise in comparision to Fenris I would agree with you on that also. I would say it's a little down to my kink but I can genuinly see Fenris having a very strong dominat personality as it is and even more so if he had not been a slave, but I wonder if he would have had as much passion on his dislike of mages if he had not been.
 
I wonder if he had not been enslaved by a mage if he would have been at ease with a Mage Hawke or if he still would have been a bit anti magic. I am inclined to agree perhaps he is a smidgy jelouse of Mages blood mages in particular.

I am very new to the games, only played my first DA game a month ago, twas DA 2 and Xbox 'recomended' it to me bless cause I am a RPG nut, a nut but picky nut mind you.... and one who always buys new games on a Friday as I offtens sit there plays through the 8 hour head ach due to eye strain. I only realize I have been playing for 12 hours when the birds start tweeting. 

So yeah sorry I will undoubtedly drag up very very old convosations and thoughts

Love the DA games as I do FO and ES by the other people. As I said before I have prefferences and dislike between both games/companies but I am most glad I stumbled across them eventually.

Personality wise I loved Bethany, strong but (my personal opnion only) not too over powering, I think I sobbed more on my current/ second play through with Bethanys death than I did Carter on my first.  Perhaps because I have gone through a whole game with her and not him.

Oh my Hawke was too nice keep a slave, she still invited the Elf girl to work for her which still peeved Fenris off but at least Haked didn't have to sleep with one eye open. She still stand thare and supports Anders/mages in front of both Merrdith and Fenris so she is no wall flower when it comes to sticking up for herself of her belifes.

Modifié par evil_blond_goth, 23 avril 2013 - 04:48 .

[evil_blond_goth]

Sorry I would have broken it up into nice little quoats and replies but I am really feeling rough and to be quite frank my brain is working far bellow par, so a few hours sleep for me and hopefully I will have regained some form of cognition.

So I shal say this lastly as I think I missed it in my last reply. I can see Fen being into the blood letting thing too and the dominante lover especially with a Mage Hawke, if the rivalmance was even more darker I can see Fenris compleetly flipping the rules and, dispite him being a slave once, keeping a mage Hawke as a 'pet' whatever that entailed to do what was done to him by Danarius, of course withing the context of a a relationship.

Fen hated that man far too much to seek such a revenge on him, I agree with Bioware that Danarius death would be the only way Fenris could deal with his old master.

just my personal kink and op on how dark/far things could go

[okiness]

Personally I think Fenris just wants to be accepted and to have someone to trust. I think if this were vanilla DA:O he would be bisexual just as he is now. Fenris does not really see gender, he sees a world filled with what he cannot trust. And on the note of my love for Fenris,

[Hazegurl]

evil_blond_goth wrote...

I was not accusing anyone one of having a go just saying that if anyone felt that strongly to go ahead, I give as good as I get.

Yeah I felt Fenris should have taken more control in the love Fem Hawke love scenes too, not played a a fella yet but from what I have seen of Male Hawke size wise in comparision to Fenris I would agree with you on that also. I would say it's a little down to my kink but I can genuinly see Fenris having a very strong dominat personality as it is and even more so if he had not been a slave, but I wonder if he would have had as much passion on his dislike of mages if he had not been.
 
I wonder if he had not been enslaved by a mage if he would have been at ease with a Mage Hawke or if he still would have been a bit anti magic. I am inclined to agree perhaps he is a smidgy jelouse of Mages blood mages in particular.

I am very new to the games, only played my first DA game a month ago, twas DA 2 and Xbox 'recomended' it to me bless cause I am a RPG nut, a nut but picky nut mind you.... and one who always buys new games on a Friday as I offtens sit there plays through the 8 hour head ach due to eye strain. I only realize I have been playing for 12 hours when the birds start tweeting. 

So yeah sorry I will undoubtedly drag up very very old convosations and thoughts

Love the DA games as I do FO and ES by the other people. As I said before I have prefferences and dislike between both games/companies but I am most glad I stumbled across them eventually.

Personality wise I loved Bethany, strong but (my personal opnion only) not too over powering, I think I sobbed more on my current/ second play through with Bethanys death than I did Carter on my first.  Perhaps because I have gone through a whole game with her and not him.

Oh my Hawke was too nice keep a slave, she still invited the Elf girl to work for her which still peeved Fenris off but at least Haked didn't have to sleep with one eye open. She still stand thare and supports Anders/mages in front of both Merrdith and Fenris so she is no wall flower when it comes to sticking up for herself of her belifes.

I'm also fairly new to DA. I've played Mass Effect so many times and loved it and wanted to find out about other BioWare games. I thought I was done with fantasy games but i got DAO just to see if I would like it and I loved it! Rushed out and got DA Awakening and DA2. Oh yeah playing until the birds chirp is awesome.

I also liked Bethany alot, she was a good doting little sister but also very strong but in the end Carver won me over the most. Mainly because of the sibling rivalry aspects of the relationship. I find it too hard to rival Bethany, i tend to get too protective of her instead.

I also wonder if Fenris wouldn't have been so anti magic if he had been enslaved by someone other than a mage. It sort of sucks that we would never really know the anwser.

[Hazegurl]

evil_blond_goth wrote...

Sorry I would have broken it up into nice little quoats and replies but I am really feeling rough and to be quite frank my brain is working far bellow par, so a few hours sleep for me and hopefully I will have regained some form of cognition.

So I shal say this lastly as I think I missed it in my last reply. I can see Fen being into the blood letting thing too and the dominante lover especially with a Mage Hawke, if the rivalmance was even more darker I can see Fenris compleetly flipping the rules and, dispite him being a slave once, keeping a mage Hawke as a 'pet' whatever that entailed to do what was done to him by Danarius, of course withing the context of a a relationship.

Fen hated that man far too much to seek such a revenge on him, I agree with Bioware that Danarius death would be the only way Fenris could deal with his old master.

just my personal kink and op on how dark/far things could go

I'm loving the idea of a darker rivalmance and I can see Fenris wanting to punish someone for what was done to him. Of course hawke would give as good as he or she gets from him so i can see it as a very intense and dark relationship between them.

But either way I'm glad Fenris got a chance to kill Danarius he deserved that and then some.

[MissRedZelda]

Hey everyone. How's it going? Sorry I've been gone for so long. Some drama's come up in my life.

Some Fenris goodness will cheer me up

By Esk-Phantom

[okiness]

Eeeeee my best friend drew my Hawke and Fenris omfg

https://mail.google....41d90&safe=1

Modifié par okiness, 27 avril 2013 - 03:31 .

[evil_blond_goth]

The picture is not showing hun

[okiness]

Showing for me, but here ya go:
http://remarried.tum...this-is-my-half

[coldwetn0se]

Mid-length hair on Fenris could be interesting. Though, I do really like his moppish hairstyle.

@Ren or oki - got any good art to toss out?

@aldy - where you been.....I had a perfectly good tipsy evening I was hoping to share with you, but you are MIA. Ahhh....what's a wino to do.....?

[aldien]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Mid-length hair on Fenris could be interesting. Though, I do really like his moppish hairstyle.

@Ren or oki - got any good art to toss out?

@aldy - where you been.....I had a perfectly good tipsy evening I was hoping to share with you, but you are MIA. Ahhh....what's a wino to do.....?

I always miss out on the fun! I broke a bone doing something stupid. I wonder if Fenris will kiss it and make it better?

Iz very quiet here.

[Dutchess]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@Ren or oki - got any good art to toss out?

*crawls out from under rock* Let's see.

I don't think I've posted this one before, did I?


Owlet-in-chest



Exomorpheus



reedan


Aand some sillyness:




Both by noturmary

[aldien]

Ren if Fenris were real he would hunt you down and brood over your selection of art You're so rotten!

I love the first one. He looks so sweet and happy there. And before enchantment boy came along that comic started out hot! Why someone ruin my dirty thoughts? Whyz?

Modifié par aldien, 07 mai 2013 - 11:11 .