Danarius does not possess the „tool” already.
Why would Hawke be jealous?
Danarius is unambiguous according to me. Why would anybody be jealous because of the lost possession of a simple tool? Somebody may be jealous rather at it because of a previous sexual relation.
According to me.
PS:
It's not so much what Danarius says as the tone of voice he uses that gives it away for my Hawkes.
Possibly i did not formulate it well. Sorry.
Possibly i did not formulate it well. Sorry.
It was a bit confusing to read, but I think I see it now. We're you trying to say that Danarius is jealous of Hawke?
No (although Danarius lost his "valuable tool", who there is beside Hawke now, so Danarius would have a reason for jealousy).
Hawke would have a reason for jealousy only if he/she is in a close, personal relationship with Fenris, because a previous sexual relationship may hurt him/her.
Danarius may hurt Fenris anyway with this comment.
So Danarius's goal was to cause pain for both of them. Do not matter there has been sexual exploitation, or did not happen.
Summa summarum: Danarius's comment was clearly sexual, but it does not prove that sexual exploitation occurred
^ If you just take Danarius, then you're correct. The man could have said, "I like ice cream," in a particular manner and made it sound vile. The implication comes in Fenris's response.
I wanted to say that Danarius comment is not ambiguous, but unambiguously offensive and cleary sexual.
And: a slave do not have job description...
Alone quest: //indavideo.hu/video/Dragon_Age_II_Fenris_Alone_quest
^This. It's the laugh and the emphasis he puts on "skilled" that makes it so clear for me.
[edit] Also, the man could say "I like ice cream" and put my Hawkes off ice cream for life.
Modifié par springacres, 19 janvier 2016 - 12:21 .
interesting analogy ... 
^Thanks for posting that video, Fenris.
There are soooo many little differences like that for male/female Hawkes, in all the romances. I like it because it shows acknowledgement of your chosen Hawke's sex, but it never feels like one is "better" than the other (or at least it doesn't to me!).
[spoiler]Little things like Isabela teasing male Hawke for his sexual performance but praising female Hawke for hers. Or how she gets jealous over female Hawke in MotA, but doesn't get jealous over male Hawke until Act III (I think??). It shows her trust issues with men and how she feels women are put down for their sexuality. Or when she talks specifically about having "girly fun" with female Hawke. Different reactions, but ultimately she comes to love and trust Hawke no matter what.
Not that it's always well-implemented... Anders pushing female Hawke away all "WE MUSTN'T!!" but immediately cozying up to male Hawke even though Karl had just died >____>
LOL sorry, I segued off into non-Fenris talk...
Hello Mark, your welcome! 
Hm? Isabela's parts i didn't really notice, i don't really like her. Mainly coz she betrayed them all by running around with the tome of koslun *facepalm* Ahhh those seem like inconsistencies.
I wanted to say that Danarius comment is not ambiguous, but unambiguously offensive and cleary sexual.
And: a slave do not have job description...
Alone quest (sorry, uncut video): http://embed.indavid...tart=1&hq=false
Yes true, I just went to redo this quest again, with the letting go of Varania. He does want to talk to Hawke after that yeay! 
whenever he didn't, i took it to mean he disagreed with that decision, despite bloodties and all that.
true that varric is concerned if u say no, but when u give the go ahead, there should be everyone's reactions 'Oh **** don't do that! it's wrong' This has been further explored in fanfics. In my fic i had it that yes he killed her and how they were all horrified and Fenris was angry and down but just stoic about it bottling up the angst. then many years later, he finds the courage to discuss it in written form, personal journal/ letters to my OC. Psychologists say that emotionally charged stuff cannot be admitted by verbal, but can offer some release in written.
It's a bit funny when some authors have it that he can effortlessly spin narrative/ poetry. Being a fighter, i doubt he likes doing that (not to ruin the romantic mood lol)
I think he'd have some trouble spelling and takes quite a long time to write like one page. What do u all think? 
^ If you just take Danarius, then you're correct. The man could have said, "I like ice cream," in a particular manner and made it sound vile. The implication comes in Fenris's response.
Plus to humiliate fenhawk in public--- hence there's No way and no version would i give him back. Can't believe some did that cruel option on game walkthroughs and anders : whose ans is really immoral. What kind of rival would agree yes let's take the money and dump him off to others? enter me, i'd knee anders in the groin 
i think afterwards some people told me that they would have wiped his memory right? Fen with amnesia is sooo sad.
Yes true, I just went to redo this quest again, with the letting go of Varania. He does want to talk to Hawke after that yeay!
true that varric is concerned if u say no, but when u give the go ahead, there should be everyone's reactions 'Oh **** don't do that! it's wrong' This has been further explored in fanfics. In my fic i had it that yes he killed her and how they were all horrified and Fenris was angry and down but just stoic about it bottling up the angst. then many years later, he finds the courage to discuss it in written form, personal journal/ letters to my OC. Psychologists say that emotionally charged stuff cannot be admitted by verbal, but can offer some release in written.
It's a bit funny when some authors have it that he can effortlessly spin narrative/ poetry. Being a fighter, i doubt he likes doing that (not to ruin the romantic mood lol)
I think he'd have some trouble spelling and takes quite a long time to write like one page. What do u all think?
It all depends on how an individual player sees him. I think that despite not being able to read when Hawke first meets him (since he was never allowed to, as a slave), between Varric and the (unintentional and highly informal) education he picked up as Danarius' bodyguard, that it's not inconceivable he would be a good oral storyteller. I think you're right that he'd struggle with the written stuff, though.
Here's one of my favorite fanfics on the topic. (NSFW, and a friendly warning - remove all food and drink from your vicinity before reading, or it may end up on your screen.)
It all depends on how an individual player sees him. I think that despite not being able to read when Hawke first meets him (since he was never allowed to, as a slave), between Varric and the (unintentional and highly informal) education he picked up as Danarius' bodyguard, that it's not inconceivable he would be a good oral storyteller. I think you're right that he'd struggle with the written stuff, though.
Thanks springacres, I'm also on the site too. Oh it's m hawke. Would u like to read my friend's and mine?
Absolutely, I can never read too many Fenris fics
true that varric is concerned if u say no, but when u give the go ahead, there should be everyone's reactions 'Oh **** don't do that! it's wrong' This has been further explored in fanfics. In my fic i had it that yes he killed her and how they were all horrified and Fenris was angry and down but just stoic about it bottling up the angst. then many years later, he finds the courage to discuss it in written form, personal journal/ letters to my OC. Psychologists say that emotionally charged stuff cannot be admitted by verbal, but can offer some release in written.
I think this is one of those things where you need to protect someone you care about from themselves. Fenris can be impulsive, and killing Varania in the heat of the moment certainly follows along with that. I know he would regret it later, which is why I stop him every time.
It's a bit funny when some authors have it that he can effortlessly spin narrative/ poetry. Being a fighter, i doubt he likes doing that (not to ruin the romantic mood lol)
I think he'd have some trouble spelling and takes quite a long time to write like one page. What do u all think?
I hardly read fanfic, but I think "effortlessly" is getting a bit carried away. On the opposite end of the spectrum, your remarks about spelling and such are also a bit too extreme. It's a learning process like anything else. Fenris is an intelligent guy and I've no doubt he would be a competent reader and writer if he applied himself. You give him the book gift in Act 2 and then there is a three year gap, so I have no problem believing that he would have made much progress three years later by Act 3.
An adult learning to read is different from a child because children can't understand certain concepts and they also lack the range of vocabulary that adults have. Even though it is generally more difficult to learn such things as an adult, the process would also be different.
Maybe I'm the only one here, who did not read any fanfic, just played the game. What I know/thinking about the characters, I only based on their in-game reactions.
(Fenris are intelligent – not all of the warriors stupid, just Carver ... )
Nightscrawl, he would definitely end up regretting it later. I watched a vid on YT that had all options from that scene and his voice when he tells her "I would have given you everything" just before killing her...
Maybe I'm the only one here, who did not read any fanfic, just played the game. What I know/thinking about the characters, I only based on their in-game reactions.
(Fenris are intelligent – not all of the warriors stupid, just Carver ...
Agreed. And even though I read fanfic, I try not to let it influence my headcanon (although it probably does to some extent.)
I think this is one of those things where you need to protect someone you care about from themselves. Fenris can be impulsive, and killing Varania in the heat of the moment certainly follows along with that. I know he would regret it later, which is why I stop him every time.
I hardly read fanfic, but I think "effortlessly" is getting a bit carried away. On the opposite end of the spectrum, your remarks about spelling and such are also a bit too extreme.
An adult learning to read is different from a child because children can't understand certain concepts and they also lack the range of vocabulary that adults have. Even though it is generally more difficult to learn such things as an adult, the process would also be different.
as u said u hardly read fanfics yes? You misunderstand, because I Adore him, I'm not saying Fen is not smart but literacy wouldn't be something he would enjoy picking up Don't forget english is the medium we mostly listen in, and he is more fluent in Latin and qun (the respective Tevinter and Seheron official communication languages) Taking into account that should Hawke give him reference materials in english (or german, french accd to diff countries' mainstream) the learning process will take longer time. Generally everyone has individual tastes and preferences.
Agreed. And even though I read fanfic, I try not to let it influence my headcanon (although it probably does to some extent.)
Does headcanon mean your interpretation or game interpretation of characters? To catalina, I don't mean all warriors are stupid, take the example of Anders who'd enjoy reading and spouting lyrical, would Cullen or Alistair do that? yup that's my point. And stretching to
Inqui, Cass also admits she faces challenges on writing abt the Seeker stuff.
The "challenges on writing" could mean: she is weak in formulating a longer description. She is not a writer, but this is not mean: she is slow witted. Not all ppl – nor all smart ppl – are able / want to make long descriptions. I think.
Does headcanon mean your interpretation or game interpretation of characters?
Inqui, Cass also admits she faces challenges on writing abt the Seeker stuff.
Headcanon means my interpretation of characters.
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