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Maera Imrov

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Well, I've played JRPGs and MMOs. It's just that MMOs (namely FF11) gave me a very low tolerance threshold for elitism of any kind. Listened to it enough in that game about gear and set ups and what classes were 'lollame'.



Having people start tossing around equivalent commentary on a character we know next to nothing about is equally agitating as someone going "Wut? No Scorpion Harness? *kick from party*" True story. Happened to a friend of mine. Those things used to be quite pricey and getting the gil up was a month long ordeal if you weren't lucky.



We know very little about Fenris. A few pictures, a blurb, and some quotes. Why people are jumping to negative conclusions about him so quickly baffles me. I said this earlier in this thread: I jumped to conclusions about Alistair based on just his little video and the snippet things when he was unveiled in Origins. I thought he'd be too jokey for me to tolerate. Turns out I was dead wrong, and I adore him. The exact same thing could happen with Fenris for any one of them going on about anime and JRPGs.

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ankuu wrote...

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He said it better :)


That would be she and that would be me :D, I drew this before I joined here when I had my feeler on the boards to gauge some of  ol Fenny's  reception. I swear people are so ready to diss something new before giving it a chance it's almost kinda sad. 

EDIT*  While I'm here who ever is in charge of changing the artwork on page one? Can you change all the ones that say Heavy-Inamorato to trickybunnie? That's gonna be my new fantasy/Dragon Age account anyway,  so when I go posting more stuff someone won't come running to me saying some chick stole your art on the BSN!

Modifié par trickybunny, 06 janvier 2011 - 06:56 .


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Hey guys I have an incredibly original idea! Lets all go troll the varric thread! Wait... trolling another character's thread? Nevermind they thought of it first.  
Seriously guys grow up. I obviously have no say over what other people post, but if you are just here to post "LOL Fernis thread sux, goin bak 2 Varik thred." Really? This is a discussion thread about Fenris so you have every right to voice your opinion, but if you aren't going to put your thoughts together into a complete post (which several people HAVE done, and this post isn't about those comments) then please think about what you are about to say. I personal find an extremely short and extremely hairy little man revolting, but out of respect for the Varric fans I'm not going to go post "lul I <3 Elfs, Varric = Ew" all over their thread. (By the way this isn't a rage post and I am just putting my thoughts down in the politest way possible. Cause this is a discussion board where people discuss things.) It's not like Varric is a completely original idea either.

A discussion does involve both points of view and if there wasn't any negative Fenris posts then we would be missing out on some very good topics. So this isn't a hate post to anyone who has/will post in this way, but if all you are going to say is "Varric forever, Fenris sucks" without any hint of actual thought as to why then please keep it in the Varric thread.

Great work on the prompts so far. Hopefully I can get something together. Keep up the good work :)

Modifié par SteamPunks, 06 janvier 2011 - 07:12 .


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This thread was filled with so much awesomeness when I got home from my christmas vacation. Good job everyone! I love the prombt development. Since I can't draw to save my life I will contribute with writing instead.

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First Prompt.

- Various companions asking Fen about his tattoos. I would dearly love
anyone who drew Zevran asking Fen where his tattoos go and asking to see
them and such. Oh how I would love you!



Zevran: So I've been meaning to ask you, my lovely Tevinter friend

Fenris: ... Why are you still here?

Zevran: Better question is, why wasn't I here from the beginning? Irregardless. You have arroused much curiousity since your presence among delicious female (and male) company on various mediums across the nation and I'll bet outside your current realm, in a world of fanciful appreciation!

Fenris: ... What are you talking about?

Zevran: Now now now, enough frivolous questions. Answer me this. Now. You have many lyrium addled markings that accentuate you finely. The curves across the forms of your biceps, the long thin vines over your chin that draw down the cool, statuesque figure of your fine neck.

Fenris: ... Do you have a point?

Zevran: ... I mean to say. Just where do they.... go?

Fenris: I fail to understand.

Zevran: Truly you are not so blind to the question.

Fenris: They brand my body.

Zevran: Yes but... How far do they... brand? Perhaps an investigation is necessary. Now, Isabela is here to hel-
Fenris: By the gods- NO.

Isabela: Now now, no need to be shy. A good world saving team operates best by knowing eachothers weaknesses and bodies better than their own!

Zevran: Indeed.

Fenris: ... Where did Hawke pick you up again!?

Zevran: That is beside the point.

Isabela: Now stand still, Fenris. This may tickle. If you feel warm, then we are doing this righ-


Cassandra: ENOUGH!
Varric: *snerks*



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Prompt ideas --
A story gone horribly wrong.
A frown turned upside down.
Mistaken Identities.

#5756
SteamPunks

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lol HolyJellyfish. ^^ That banter made my day, I could totally see that happening.

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Mary Kirby posted the following in a different thread. Just in case some of you missed it.

Mary Kirby wrote...

Your friends have deep and complex reasons for remaining your friends.

Eight years after Hawke arrives in Kirkwall...


Hawke is suddenly awakened by the sound of someone rummaging through the cupboards in the kitchen.

Hawke: Huh? Isabela? What are you doing here?

Isabela: Getting a sandwich. You don't have any mustard, do you?

Hawke: No, not what are you doing here now. What are you still doing here? We've known each other for years now. What's your motivation to hang out with me?

Isabela: I wanted a sandwich. You're a bit daft first thing in the morning, aren't you?

Fenris barges in.


Isabela: Hey, Fenris. Keep an eye out for the mustard, would you?

Fenris: Hawke. Are you ever planning to return that copy of Hard in Hightown I lent you? It's been six years.

Hawke: ...

Fenris: Seriously. I need it back. It's very important.

Hawke: That's it. That's why you're here?

Fenris: I wanted a sandwich, too.

Varric: Everyone can relax! I found the mustard! Hawke buried it under three jars of horseradish and some pickled beets.


What I want to know is what is Hard in Hightown is about...

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Wow! You really have to watch your steps in here, huh?

I don't remember saying anything about Sephiroth or JRPGs, I'm not some crazed anime fan, and I'm certainly not calling Fenris "wapanese" or anything like that. I was merely pointing out that there have been other characters than Geralt that shared many, if not all, of the traits that Maria Caliban listed.

If anything, I was trying to say that I DON'T think Fenris is a rip-off. If he is, then Geralt is too.

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Arayerie wrote...

Woah. Coming to this thread from time to time may have an interesting outcomes, I see :) Picture. in fact was made by me. Thanks, ankuu for posting it... ;)


It's on the first page too ^^ I added your dA name there. The name i said i forgot was of the person who wrote the dialogue (you wrote it? it was cuteee!).

@trickybunny: You are Heavy Inamorato? OMG! <3I know it was drawn by you (it says on the first page :P) but my "he" i meant Fenris. Cause he says "Haters gonna hate", rite?

EDIT: oh and i post the artwork on the first page. i will change yer name to trickybunnie rite now.

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buggirl wrote...

What I want to know is what is Hard in Hightown is about...


Life. It's hard in hightown.

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drahelvete wrote...

Wow! You really have to watch your steps in here, huh?
I don't remember saying anything about Sephiroth or JRPGs, I'm not some crazed anime fan, and I'm certainly not calling Fenris "wapanese" or anything like that. I was merely pointing out that there have been other characters than Geralt that shared many, if not all, of the traits that Maria Caliban listed.
If anything, I was trying to say that I DON'T think Fenris is a rip-off. If he is, then Geralt is too.


If it makes you feel better, I appreciate you trying to educate me. :)

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Maera Imrov wrote...
We know very little about Fenris. A few pictures, a blurb, and some quotes. Why people are jumping to negative conclusions about him so quickly baffles me. I said this earlier in this thread: I jumped to conclusions about Alistair based on just his little video and the snippet things when he was unveiled in Origins. I thought he'd be too jokey for me to tolerate. Turns out I was dead wrong, and I adore him. The exact same thing could happen with Fenris for any one of them going on about anime and JRPGs.

Yeah, but... this works both ways.  Honestly I peek in here and see "prompt fills" and it makes me Posted Image when we know next to nothing about this character.  In fact I decided early on I should stay away from the fan threads because the rampant giddiness was dampening my actual interest in the character.

Just sayin'.  Who am I to kill another person's squee buzz.

I do get an anime impression from the characters, but it's more because of the art style being more cartoony than any one feature.  White or silver hair, that's pretty much a staple of fantasy so DA's just catching up.

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Addai67 wrote...

Maera Imrov wrote...
We know very little about Fenris. A few pictures, a blurb, and some quotes. Why people are jumping to negative conclusions about him so quickly baffles me. I said this earlier in this thread: I jumped to conclusions about Alistair based on just his little video and the snippet things when he was unveiled in Origins. I thought he'd be too jokey for me to tolerate. Turns out I was dead wrong, and I adore him. The exact same thing could happen with Fenris for any one of them going on about anime and JRPGs.

Yeah, but... this works both ways.  Honestly I peek in here and see "prompt fills" and it makes me Posted Image when we know next to nothing about this character.  In fact I decided early on I should stay away from the fan threads because the rampant giddiness was dampening my actual interest in the character.

Just sayin'.  Who am I to kill another person's squee buzz.

I do get an anime impression from the characters, but it's more because of the art style being more cartoony than any one feature.  White or silver hair, that's pretty much a staple of fantasy so DA's just catching up.


I can't wait to see what Fenris is actually like in the game. For all we know, half of us could end up hating his personality. Because we know so little we are all just filling in his empty shell with what we hope he is. It will be interesting to see if we are anywhere close. I have no doubt there will be dissapointment and there will be suprises when we find out more.

I completley understand your "stay away from the fan threads" perspective, for at the moment this thread is about the "fan's Fenris" and not "David Gaider's Fenris". We've pretty much written this character ourselves with a basic guideline from the actual writer. I don't blame you in a way. I'm a little worried about how he will actually turn out. A little unrelated, but I thought I would love Jack from ME2 when I first heard of her but in the actual game I just wanted to punch her in the face every time she opened her mouth.

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So yeah I kind of just wanted to draw this I mean here is my completely prompt-inspired Friends in Unlikely Places

(Come on, Fenris and Aveline are going to be such bros. Just look at their popped collars!)

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SteamPunks wrote...

Hey guys I have an incredibly original idea! Lets all go troll the varric thread! Wait... trolling another character's thread? Nevermind they thought of it first.  
Seriously guys grow up. I obviously have no say over what other people post, but if you are just here to post "LOL Fernis thread sux, goin bak 2 Varik thred." Really? This is a discussion thread about Fenris so you have every right to voice your opinion, but if you aren't going to put your thoughts together into a complete post (which several people HAVE done, and this post isn't about those comments) then please think about what you are about to say. I personal find an extremely short and extremely hairy little man revolting, but out of respect for the Varric fans I'm not going to go post "lul I <3 Elfs, Varric = Ew" all over their thread. (By the way this isn't a rage post and I am just putting my thoughts down in the politest way possible. Cause this is a discussion board where people discuss things.) It's not like Varric is a completely original idea either.

A discussion does involve both points of view and if there wasn't any negative Fenris posts then we would be missing out on some very good topics. So this isn't a hate post to anyone who has/will post in this way, but if all you are going to say is "Varric forever, Fenris sucks" without any hint of actual thought as to why then please keep it in the Varric thread.

Great work on the prompts so far. Hopefully I can get something together. Keep up the good work :)


Just responding a bit because it feels like this has been directed to me (if not, I guess it's just my paranoia taking over and Im sorry for bringing this back to the top).  Now, I just want to make it clear that Im not doing any trolling at all.  If I were, I would have taking a lot more time to come up with something more effective than "Varric Forever!" :)  Any posts that I do make comparing V and Fenny are entirely meant good naturedly and Im trying to play in with the old trope of the Elven-Dwarven rivalry thing...There are times when I pop into the thread and I do voice my opinion on some of the ideas -- for instance, I do think that some of the "wants" for Fenny seem to be heavily twilight influenced.  Im interested in seeing how things turn out with this character and a large large large part of me wants the characterization (particularly the interaction between a certain tall, skinny mostly hairless man with the stylized hair and the extremely short, extremely hairy little man) that Dr. Dr. has been posting to be the characterization of Fenny.  As I said a while back, Fenny just doesn't have that bro vibe coming out (if he did, that would be great and I would keep him and V along just to see what sort of Party Banter goes on), so he doesn't initially appeal to me, but if he has a dry sense of humour and can effectively play the straight man to V -- or even have V play the straight man to Fenny (think more Abbott and Costello than Laurel and Hardy - while I really like slapstick, I think that the verbal dynamics of A & C would work better), then I would be more than happy...

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What might happen:

If Fenris is pretty close to how we percived him to be:

Doc: Well done Bioware, another well written and fleshed out character.

If Ser Gaider, the Grand, Exalted, Magnificent Poobah of Writing has decieved us all.

Doc:
Mr Gaider, you magnificent bastard! You had me fooled the entire time! Well played sir.

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Here's my response to prompt B, Child's Play.  It's Fenny at around age 12 with a cute little sister/cousin/buddy.  I haven't drawn cartoon style in a long time so excuse the wonky anatomy.

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Hear Hear!



I am putting all the prompts on the first page, so if you want anything changed, let me know :)



@BPearl12: wuuu black hair! and i actually like that style



@obnoxiousgas : i've always believe they would hate eachother xD since they are both tanks and want Hawke for themselves. *grin*

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@Ankuu: Oh ok! Sorry I feel like a nut XD Thanks for updating that on the frontpage for me muchly appreciated darling.



@BSB: I'm not gonna lie I went over to the Varric thread and what you said seemed a little...I dunno what word to use but I can see someone getting offended because this is the internet after all lol, I personally took it as healthy competition and a challenge with the calling us jock elves and lol they don't have Christmas art thing. Every thread needs a cheerleader I guess, I even said a few pages back that we needed to kick the Varric thread's ass, so there ya go.

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trickybunny wrote...

@BSB: I'm not gonna lie I went over to the Varric thread and what you said seemed a little...I dunno what word to use but I can see someone getting offended because this is the internet after all lol, I personally took it as healthy competition and a challenge with the calling us jock elves and lol they don't have Christmas art thing. Every thread needs a cheerleader I guess, I even said a few pages back that we needed to kick the Varric thread's ass, so there ya go.


Nothing wrong with a little healthy competition!  Im really interested in seeing the responses to the prompts...As for the jock thing, I started it in this thread with the thought that Elves get all the girls compared to the other fantasy races.

Somewhat on the same topic, is anyone around here good at drawing weapons?  I'd love to see a good fan-pic of Bianca :)

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trickybunny wrote...

@Ankuu: Oh ok! Sorry I feel like a nut XD Thanks for updating that on the frontpage for me muchly appreciated darling.

@BSB: I'm not gonna lie I went over to the Varric thread and what you said seemed a little...I dunno what word to use but I can see someone getting offended because this is the internet after all lol, I personally took it as healthy competition and a challenge with the calling us jock elves and lol they don't have Christmas art thing. Every thread needs a cheerleader I guess, I even said a few pages back that we needed to kick the Varric thread's ass, so there ya go.


But we do have Christmas art with Fen! And even New Year's Eve...

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What we do lack is him+FHawke art.

I felt a little bit weird when i went on the Varric thread to read BSB's post too. And someone else said that she prefers the Varric thread because it has a different "vibe" than Fenris'.

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I've also mentioned it on this thread before, but I just want to say that I really appreciate how they've inverted the traditional weapon styles of Fenny and V -- Fenny being more up close and personal with his 2 handed weapon (rather than ranged w/bow) and V being more reach out and touch someone with Bianca (rather than up close and personal w/axe)

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Ah all my anime dreams have come to life! Zevran should have been a bishi like him...He better be romanceable..

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Ah all my anime dreams have come to life! Zevran should have been a bishi like him...He better be romanceable..


And this comes from a Sesshoumaru fan my friends (which actually is a stoic, white haired anime character - and a dog demon).

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Don't even ask why i know this...