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#6701
Maera Imrov

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I mean just to point out that there are quite a lot "Action" Stories in literature with Lovestories with a Tragic end. And if you are going to polarize with your stories anyway... you might as well mix it up... instead of the oh so boring "they live ever happily after"... why not for a change mix it up with a Lovestory you feel heartbroken over because she turns out to be the bad guy (without it hinting the first minute you saw her) or her backstabbing the Hero because she was blackmailed and or simply because they die before they can get to the "happy ever after" stage.

Just for a change.


That kind of thing is great in a book or movie, but in my games, where I tend to be role-playing, it'd kill any subsequent playthroughs for me. I may or may not enjoy the darkness for that one, but the game would be gutted for the others. I usually only end up liking *one* of the LIs, and if turned out to be the one that never would work out, I just don't do it. I'd probably never play the game but the once, and end up disappointed, with a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth. Others may enjoy having something like that after 40+ hours on a character, but I wouldn't. At all. Now in a book or movie, I eat it up. Odd how that is, I guess.

Case in point: Alistair and anyone who isn't HNF. I don't even bother to romance anyone on my Dwarf/Elves, and to that end, have never managed to finish a playthrough of those.

And yes, the love story really *is* that central to my enjoyment of the narrative. This has been true for any RP, fanfic, or game you get me into.

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Maera Imrov wrote...

Kajan451 wrote...
I mean just to point out that there are quite a lot "Action" Stories in literature with Lovestories with a Tragic end. And if you are going to polarize with your stories anyway... you might as well mix it up... instead of the oh so boring "they live ever happily after"... why not for a change mix it up with a Lovestory you feel heartbroken over because she turns out to be the bad guy (without it hinting the first minute you saw her) or her backstabbing the Hero because she was blackmailed and or simply because they die before they can get to the "happy ever after" stage.

Just for a change.


That kind of thing is great in a book or movie, but in my games, where I tend to be role-playing, it'd kill any subsequent playthroughs for me. I may or may not enjoy the darkness for that one, but the game would be gutted for the others. I usually only end up liking *one* of the LIs, and if turned out to be the one that never would work out, I just don't do it. I'd probably never play the game but the once, and end up disappointed, with a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth. Others may enjoy having something like that after 40+ hours on a character, but I wouldn't. At all. Now in a book or movie, I eat it up. Odd how that is, I guess.

Case in point: Alistair and anyone who isn't HNF. I don't even bother to romance anyone on my Dwarf/Elves, and to that end, have never managed to finish a playthrough of those.

And yes, the love story really *is* that central to my enjoyment of the narrative. This has been true for any RP, fanfic, or game you get me into.


It could be simply be that by virtue of playing a character, that character is you to a certain extent. You can appriciate a story and empathize with a character in it, but make it interactive and it becomes a lot more personal. So no matter how much you can appriciate the story of star-crossed lovers, you don't want it to happen to you, or by extension, your character.

I think that's why people are so upset with love stories that don't have a happy ending for their character.

#6703
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It took me 4 or 5 hours but by the Maker, I was going to watched that blasted video! I am even more excited now! I love everyone's voice, especially Varric's! I giggled when I saw that Varric's feet didnt touch the ground when they were 'dragging' him in. I love Cassandra's behaviour with the 'bull****' and all, it suits her role in the game (Poor Varric almost had his leg stabbed though). Merril's chest area doesnt look that big when you see it from a different angle. Isabela raping Hawke was sort of scary.. lol.



Seeing Fenris made me extremely happy. But then I sighed upon not hearing his voice.. darn you Mr. Gaider! I wish I could read video game lips, but alas I cannot.

#6704
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Maera Imrov wrote...

Case in point: Alistair and anyone who isn't HNF. I don't even bother to romance anyone on my Dwarf/Elves, and to that end, have never managed to finish a playthrough of those.


...You could just not make him king for once?

#6705
Maera Imrov

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MarginalBeast wrote...

Maera Imrov wrote...

Case in point: Alistair and anyone who isn't HNF. I don't even bother to romance anyone on my Dwarf/Elves, and to that end, have never managed to finish a playthrough of those.


...You could just not make him king for once?


I could, but I despise Anora. A lot. I dislike her and how she does things. Rather have a hardened Alistair as king, even if my charries aren't with him. :P

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You can always die at the end - that'll teach him or let him die - well that's what he gets, mwhahaha. Or u can convince him to keep u on in an unofficial matter as a sort of mistress. The option for finishing a romance all the way through is there but yeah...



I'm the same the way, I have a really hard time finishing Origins with a female character that can't get her man and someday become Queen while making sure that wench Anora stays off the throne.



I finally finished my first Origin playthrough not romancing Alistiar and that's just cuz it was a male dwarf noble so I couldn't even if I wanted a gay dwarf, lol. Plus, I wanted to finally romance Morrigan anyways and do some of the darker choices like not destroy the anvil just so I'd have all that ready for a save to import into DA2.

#6707
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Just noticed something while replaying video and pausing for screenies. It looks like Fen has the lyrium lines on the palms of his hands. I will try and see if I can get a picture up, but no guarantees.



It's really hard to catch if you want to try to see it in the video. It's like the .01 second between 3:28 and 3:29.



I will try to get the shot up.

#6708
Sanctuary74

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Ok, so I dunno if this will work but bear with me..



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Oh hey look at that. You're right. Well I suppose they can't really be super sensitive or he'd be in agony every time he swung his 2hander.

#6710
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I feel odd for noticing and taking interest in seeing that.. *<--feels like a total fangirl*

But atleast it shows that he cant be too sensitive about them like Anarya said.

#6711
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Indeed. ...Well, either that or his hands are disturbingly bony.

I also find it odd that he doesn't seem to take his hand claw thingies off even outside of combat. He's going to poke someone's eye out.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 11 janvier 2011 - 08:10 .


#6712
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DalishAssassin wrote...

Ok, so I dunno if this will work but bear with me..

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I feel like this was an unintentional pun, but he SO looks like one in this image...:whistle:

It's REALLY late where I am.

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

DalishAssassin wrote...

Ok, so I dunno if this will work but bear with me..

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I feel like this was an unintentional pun, but he SO looks like one in this image...Posted Image

It's REALLY late where I am.


Not furry enough for a Bear, would probably be thrown out of most Bear clubs (later still where I am :)  In all seriousness, it looks like Fenny is rocking out to some Pearl Jam or Nirvana

#6714
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Yeah maybe not a bear, he does look like my cat when I give it a piece of string to paw at lol

#6715
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As much as I loved the the new dev diary video giving us a glimpse of the story and the sort of interactions you can have with your companions and family even the 1 second shot of Fenris was magic, I'm still a wee bit disappointed..

Was hoping to see and hear some Fem Hawke and maybe as a great glorious bonus get to finally hear Fenris speak some dialogue even if its a howdy but alas....

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Preview of a work in progress:

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Modifié par Tamyn, 11 janvier 2011 - 11:33 .


#6717
PoisonTheCity

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*flails*



That is gorgeous, Tamyn!

#6718
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Tamyn wrote...

Preview of a work in progress:

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WIP?
:mellow::huh::o:):D:lol::o:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:It seem complete to me.

#6719
Tamyn

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There's more to the picture. :)

#6720
tankgirly

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Tamyn wrote...

There's more to the picture. :)


Srsly?

*Holding glasses* Humph.....all I can see is you need to get those lyrium marks sparkle.....but that's just me and it's really really minor.....

#6721
Tamyn

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The overall picture is larger than this. You can see more of their bodies.

#6722
tankgirly

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Tamyn wrote...

The overall picture is larger than this. You can see more of their bodies.


:o:huh::blush::wub:

Oh.

I see.

#6723
Lara Denton

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Tamyn wrote...

Preview of a work in progress:

This looks amazing! 

#6724
Nadia

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I's one of the most beautiful fanart I've seen Tamyn and I've seen many :-) awesome!

#6725
Tamyn

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Thanks everybody. :)