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Chagrinned Goat wrote...

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But I have always wondered... If a Human and Elven Babe has a kid with a all Elven, what will that babe look like??? any thoughts??? Posted Image


They look just like humans. I think only humans/dwaves produce any kind of half-species child.



It's been said though that human/elven babies are ahlf they just look humans example would be the 2nd book, Fiona did not want her baby to know it was a half elf half human... Posted Image

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bsbcaer wrote...

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I doubt it's gonna come up but it'd be pretty funny if Merril didn't approve of Hawke and Fenris, cuz elves need to stick to their own kind and make more pure blooded elven babies XD


You know that just may happen!!! Posted Image 

But I have always wondered... If a Human and Elven Babe has a kid with a all Elven, what will that babe look like??? any thoughts??? Posted Image


Human + elf = Human


It says in the books that the kid is both but looks human...

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jamirflyd2 wrote...

Chagrinned Goat wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...
But I have always wondered... If a Human and Elven Babe has a kid with a all Elven, what will that babe look like??? any thoughts??? Posted Image


They look just like humans. I think only humans/dwaves produce any kind of half-species child.



It's been said though that human/elven babies are ahlf they just look humans example would be the 2nd book, Fiona did not want her baby to know it was a half elf half human... Posted Image


No, Fiona did not want the baby because she didn't want the baby to be treated like she had been. She also did not want it raised in the royal courts, but to have a normal life. The baby was VERY clearly human. 

If you don't believe me, I have the book sitting on a bookshelf in my room. I can grab it and quote the part where it's clarified the kid is human.

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jamirflyd2 wrote...

Chagrinned Goat wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...
But I have always wondered... If a Human and Elven Babe has a kid with a all Elven, what will that babe look like??? any thoughts??? Posted Image


They look just like humans. I think only humans/dwaves produce any kind of half-species child.



It's been said though that human/elven babies are ahlf they just look humans example would be the 2nd book, Fiona did not want her baby to know it was a half elf half human... Posted Image



Well, you did ask what they looked like. Either way, though it has one elven parent, it's for all intents and purposes a human. I'd say the only reason she wouldn't want the kid to know is to shield him from racism, shame, or self-loathing.

Modifié par Chagrinned Goat, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:15 .


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jamirflyd2 wrote...

bsbcaer wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...

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I doubt it's gonna come up but it'd be pretty funny if Merril didn't approve of Hawke and Fenris, cuz elves need to stick to their own kind and make more pure blooded elven babies XD


You know that just may happen!!! Posted Image 

But I have always wondered... If a Human and Elven Babe has a kid with a all Elven, what will that babe look like??? any thoughts??? Posted Image


Human + elf = Human


It says in the books that the kid is both but looks human...


I don't have the time or inclination to find the exact quote in here, but the equation I provided is the one that the author provided...

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Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...

Chagrinned Goat wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...
But I have always wondered... If a Human and Elven Babe has a kid with a all Elven, what will that babe look like??? any thoughts??? Posted Image


They look just like humans. I think only humans/dwaves produce any kind of half-species child.



It's been said though that human/elven babies are ahlf they just look humans example would be the 2nd book, Fiona did not want her baby to know it was a half elf half human... Posted Image


No, Fiona did not want the baby because she didn't want the baby to be treated like she had been. She also did not want it raised in the royal courts, but to have a normal life. The baby was VERY clearly human. 

If you don't believe me, I have the book sitting on a bookshelf in my room. I can grab it and quote the part where it's clarified the kid is human.


I mena I have the books two but I could have sworn it said the babies are both but because of the elves genetic adaptibility they come out human looking... Posted Image

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Yeah I'm pretty sure human blood overwrites any and all things elven when it comes to baby making, so in order for Elves to continue on they have to procreate with other elves. So it'll be interesting to see Fenris' connection to other elves and if that kind of thing bothers him at all. 

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Completely off topic, but has anyone here ever played the Hitler Game? I promise it is not nearly as horrible as it sounds.

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trickybunny wrote...

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I doubt it's gonna come up but it'd be pretty funny if Merril didn't approve of Hawke and Fenris, cuz elves need to stick to their own kind and make more pure blooded elven babies XD

If so, then Merril will need to watch out for my Lady Hawke mage ^_^ (or I could throw my, at some point, M!Hawke XD)


XD, yeah I don't think it'd even be in a hateful type of way persay but kinda like how Wynne would talk to the M!Warden about getting involved with Morrigan, out of concern. Like granted I know she was like the Mama Bear in our group that pissed me off because I'm like...ok lady I'm not stupid lemme just shag the hot gothic girl please I don't need lectures like I'm stupid and naive. 

omg, same convo I had with her about Zev on my elf girly! :blink: and the old biddy lectures me about hurting Alistair on my other elf! :lol:

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Ummm for anyone with the book I just looked at page 443 and Fiona says she wants the is for the babe to be human "fully human" and that is his fake mom was to be a human and dead... I thought they way she said it meant babies are both anyone else see that???

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@Paladin: Oh so she does it either way, see I knew there was a reason I stopped talking to her in camp in subsequent playthroughs lol.



And no Crooked I haven't and I gotta say it does sound pretty terrible lol

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jamirflyd2 wrote...

Ummm for anyone with the book I just looked at page 443 and Fiona says she wants the is for the babe to be human "fully human" and that is his fake mom was to be a human and dead... I thought they way she said it meant babies are both anyone else see that???


I think in that context, "fully human" it means in both raising as well as lineage. She wants the child to have a human upbringing.


trickybunny wrote...
@Paladin: Oh so she does it either way,
see I knew there was a reason I stopped talking to her in camp in
subsequent playthroughs lol.


There's a speech for all LIs. I like them. I like all of Wynne's motherly advice.

Modifié par Chagrinned Goat, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:23 .


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sorry it's off topic but I was curious I mean I want thier to always be elves to this is making me not like human/elven relations anymore though I would do it at least once in-game :D

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trickybunny wrote...

You think Izzy would go for Fenris? lol I really just picture her teasing him with innuendo not wanting to jump his bones, but meh what do I know. Honestly the only one that would make sense would be your sibling


I honestly think Isabela will hit on anything with two legs and a libido. At least, that was the impression I got from her in DA:O.

Another character I believe might, would be Aveline surprisingly enough. Both companions have suffered a great loss, and truth be told I think they will get along quite well with each other. They both seem sort of moody and brooding after all Posted Image

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Chagrinned Goat wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...

Ummm for anyone with the book I just looked at page 443 and Fiona says she wants the is for the babe to be human "fully human" and that is his fake mom was to be a human and dead... I thought they way she said it meant babies are both anyone else see that???


I think in that context, "fully human" it means in both raising as well as lineage. She wants the child to have a human upbringing.


That could be it. Though I mena the fact that the babe looks human I don't see why people would treat it different well maybe elves but i doubt humans Posted Image

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It does sound terrible, doesn't it? But it's not. It's when you look up any innocuous thing on Wikipedia like, say, oranges or sweater vests, and you have to get to Adolf Hitler within five clicks.



I just looked up table cloth. I never expected it to lead me to Hitler.

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jamirflyd2 wrote...
That could be it. Though I mena the fact that the babe looks human I don't see why people would treat it different well maybe elves but i doubt humans Posted Image


Being half elf would definitely be enough for the child to be treated differently. Remember, elves are a completely different class than humans. They're sold into slavery and forced to live in alienages just because they're elves. It's not hard to believe that even though it's not visible, a half-elf would recieve scorn and derision for his ancestry.


CrookedAsylum wrote...

It does sound terrible, doesn't it?
But it's not. It's when you look up any innocuous thing on Wikipedia
like, say, oranges or sweater vests, and you have to get to Adolf Hitler
within five clicks.

I just looked up table cloth. I never expected it to lead me to Hitler.



Like the Kevin Bacon game? Finding a link between him and any other actor.

You can even connect him to Conrad Veidt in just three or four, I think, actors/films. Fascinating.

Modifié par Chagrinned Goat, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:27 .


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jamirflyd2 wrote...

Chagrinned Goat wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...

Ummm for anyone with the book I just looked at page 443 and Fiona says she wants the is for the babe to be human "fully human" and that is his fake mom was to be a human and dead... I thought they way she said it meant babies are both anyone else see that???


I think in that context, "fully human" it means in both raising as well as lineage. She wants the child to have a human upbringing.


That could be it. Though I mena the fact that the babe looks human I don't see why people would treat it different well maybe elves but i doubt humans Posted Image


"Oh look, you're the kid with the Elfie mom.  Why arent your ears pointy?  Come over here and carry my stuff around, Im obviously better than you because both my parents are human.  Oh, you're the KING'S kid?  That must have been something that your Mom said because she couldn't remember your real dad with all the other guys going through her bedroom"

Yeah, kids (and people) aren't cruel at all....

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Chagrinned Goat wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

It does sound terrible, doesn't it?
But it's not. It's when you look up any innocuous thing on Wikipedia
like, say, oranges or sweater vests, and you have to get to Adolf Hitler
within five clicks.

I just looked up table cloth. I never expected it to lead me to Hitler.



Like the Kevin Bacon game? Finding a link between him and any other actor.

You can even connect him to Conrad Veidt in just three or four, I think, actors/films. Fascinating.


Exactly. I think this is the most productive thing I have done all day.

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CrookedAsylum wrote...

It does sound terrible, doesn't it? But it's not. It's when you look up any innocuous thing on Wikipedia like, say, oranges or sweater vests, and you have to get to Adolf Hitler within five clicks.

I just looked up table cloth. I never expected it to lead me to Hitler.


lmao ahh Wiki leading me things I didn't intend to click, I know when I actually looked up branding to get some more understanding about how and why it was done I some how ended up in Medieval torture devices then ended up on Vlad The Impaler's page...good times. I will say at least the theme was consistent :P

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Chagrinned Goat wrote...

jamirflyd2 wrote...
That could be it. Though I mena the fact that the babe looks human I don't see why people would treat it different well maybe elves but i doubt humans Posted Image


Being half elf would definitely be enough for the child to be treated differently. Remember, elves are a completely different class than humans. They're sold into slavery and forced to live in alienages just because they're elves. It's not hard to believe that even though it's not visible, a half-elf would recieve scorn and derision for his ancestry.


Yeah your right Chagrinned Goat I can see why they would want to hide it. Well maybe half elves can make elf babies with elves you never know but now I really don't like human/elf so  much I mean for a mage I don't really mind becuase they are suppose to be outisde the norm!!! I love mages Posted Image

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Hahahahaha lol just to get this back on a current page!!!  Posted Image

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I could actually see Merrill taking an interest in our shiny friend. In my head it would be something akin to Simon/Kaylee from Firefly.

Fenris:
Merrill, are you sure you want to go through with this? Being around me isn't exactly the safest thing in the world.

Merrill:
I've fought off werewolves and darkspawn, I climbed  Sundermount with my clan. Danger has been a constant companion for me and my kin Fen, that's not going to stop me from caring about you.

Fenris: Nor is it going to stop me, its just that I don't want to see you hurt because of what I am.

Merrill: Well I'm an exiled Dalish keeper and your the most adorable living weapon in Thedas. Besides being Dalish means that trouble tends to find you.

Fenris:
(smiling)  You know, your cheerfulness is infectious.

Merrill: Careful shiny boy or I'll have to zap you.(Wraps arms around Fenris)

Fenris: Alas, once more I am held prisoner by a mage. At least my new master is quite beautiful.

Merrill: Master hmm...I think I could get used to this.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

I could actually see Merrill taking an interest in our shiny friend. In my head it would be something akin to Simon/Kaylee from Firefly.

Fenris:
Merrill, are you sure you want to go through with this? Being around me isn't exactly the safest thing in the world.

Merrill:
I've fought off werewolves and darkspawn, I climbed  Sundermount with my clan. Danger has been a constant companion for me and my kin Fen, that's not going to stop me from caring about you.

Fenris: Nor is it going to stop me, its just that I don't want to see you hurt because of what I am.

Merrill: Well I'm an exiled Dalish keeper and your the most adorable living weapon in Thedas. Besides being Dalish means that trouble tends to find you.

Fenris:
(smiling)  You know, your cheerfulness is infectious.

Merrill: Careful shiny boy or I'll have to zap you.(Wraps arms around Fenris)

Fenris: Alas, once more I am held prisoner by a mage. At least my new master is quite beautiful.

Merrill: Master hmm...I think I could get used to this.





I like where this is going Dr. Doctor!!! Posted Image

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@Dr. Doctor As cute as that Merrill/Fenris pairing is...I don't like reading about another chick honing in on mah property!

I'll rip that tiny little dalish's head off if I have to Posted Image

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