Maera Imrov wrote...
EighmyLupin wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
What gives? So elves are a bit taller now. Sounds fine to me, less cliche even.
I feel the same. I prefer taller guys anyway.
This. ._. Having to look down at my man would be a turn off.
*prepares to be broiled alive by half of this thread and all of the Varric one* I have lived a good life...
Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 20 janvier 2011 - 09:02 .
Tamyn wrote...
Preview snippet of unfinished piece.
Modifié par tankgirly, 20 janvier 2011 - 09:06 .
Tamyn wrote...
Preview snippet of unfinished piece.
Modifié par ankuu, 20 janvier 2011 - 09:17 .
Tamyn wrote...
Preview snippet of unfinished piece.
![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
:D:O
"Alistair didn't start off having a hook, and I realized it after I began writing him" So he wasn't a prince to begin with, or was that the hook that was added later?David Gaider wrote...
Dr. Doctor wrote...
The one question that I have for Dave, is how do you go about creating a character like Fenris? Is the major plot of the story hammered out before characters are introduced, or are general character profiles introduced before moving along with the story?
There are two things that need to exist when creating a companion:
1) A place in the story.
2) A hook.
#1 doesn't always happen if #2 is really strong, so sometimes we forget... and then we regret it later on. A place in the story means that there is something going on in the plot (or one of the plots) that is very central to what that character is about. They care about it, so you do too. Plots can be abstract things, especially when they relate to a world you have only a vicarious stake in, so followers serve to personify those conflicts.
But #2 is enough. There has to be a hook-- for me, not the player. Something that I want to say with a character, either a moment I know I want them to have, a twist on a romantic archetype, a thing that they have which makes me excited to write them. If there isn't a hook, no matter what we do the character will be boring. That can happen, too, in which case you have to create a hook. For yourself. Nobody else needs to care about it.
For Morrigan, the hook was the Dark Ritual. I knew that moment would exist almost before the rest of the game did. Alistair didn't start off having a hook, and I realized it after I began writing him. He was a distrustful, surly sort and I hated it. So... what to do? I wanted to make his dialogue fun, the sort of person who guys wouldn't hate because he was a buddy. Since I was watching BtVS at the time, it came to me when I was (predictably) analyzing Joss Whedon's method of delivering dialogue. Anachronistic, sure, but could it be done in fantasy...? I wanted to try.
There was a hook for Fenris, but I can't tell you what it is yet. It's a spoiler. The tattoos came later (and, amusingly, before I even saw Jack), but there was an element to Fenris that made me want to write him. His #1 is also significant, which is important as I mandated that every DA2 character would need a #1. It's a more personal story, after all, without a "YOU MUST SAVE THE WORLD NO YOU MUST" thing going on-- and thus the ciphers are that much more important.
Everything else after that fact is just mechanics and plot documents. And finding the voice. That's separate and not always easy, and sometimes doesn't come until you hit the Moment-- which could happen right away or halfway through writing the character.
This is amazing! :'Dankuu wrote...
Tamyn wrote...
Preview snippet of unfinished piece.
*eye twitch* The detail...it's almost like he's gonna come out of the monitor any moment. Not that i would mind
Wait wait wait...i just read...UNFINISHED? This is unfinished?
MagneticDawn wrote...
Chagrinned Goat, e_e He found it.. and posted the link.. but I forgot where he posted where it exaclty is..
MagneticDawn wrote...
Also, Cha-grinned goat spilled that one while we were on the fenris live stream painting..
MagneticDawn wrote...
lonewolfxxx wrote...
I...I feel ashamed to call myself "dirty minded" now.. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png
-runs off to find my inner perv-
XDDDD That would be "Ego" in Fraud's terms!
trickybunny wrote...
We do, I just wanna spiffy it up some (there's like nothing on it and it's stuck with one of those plain old newbie layouts) we also need mods so any takers?
David Gaider wrote...
I think elves are now the same height as humans, so he'd be a bit taller than FemHawke, but I could be wrong.
Modifié par Chagrinned Goat, 20 janvier 2011 - 12:01 .
- Elves don't wear shoes (something with the artist having a thing when it comes to shoes and elves).FenrisDeSolar wrote...
WHY do I always miss Mr Gaider? JUST, WHY?!?
Oh, and what new info did we get this time?
I'm in a good mood (read: I'm bored), so I will quote it for you.FenrisDeSolar wrote...
I do like that sort of stuff, I do. :3 Perhaps I WILL go back a few pages and find it... >_O
David Gaider wrote...
Dr. Doctor wrote...
The one question that I have for Dave, is how do you go about creating a character like Fenris? Is the major plot of the story hammered out before characters are introduced, or are general character profiles introduced before moving along with the story?
There are two things that need to exist when creating a companion:
1) A place in the story.
2) A hook.
#1 doesn't always happen if #2 is really strong, so sometimes we forget... and then we regret it later on. A place in the story means that there is something going on in the plot (or one of the plots) that is very central to what that character is about. They care about it, so you do too. Plots can be abstract things, especially when they relate to a world you have only a vicarious stake in, so followers serve to personify those conflicts.
But #2 is enough. There has to be a hook-- for me, not the player. Something that I want to say with a character, either a moment I know I want them to have, a twist on a romantic archetype, a thing that they have which makes me excitedto write them. If there isn't a hook, no matter what we do the character will be boring. That can happen, too, in which case you have to create a hook. For yourself. Nobody else needs to care about it.
For Morrigan, the hook was the Dark Ritual. I knew that moment would exist almost before the rest of the game did. Alistair didn't start off having a hook, and I realized it after I began writing him. He was a distrustful, surly sort and I hated it. So... what to do? I wanted to make his dialogue fun, the sort of person who guys wouldn't hate because he was a buddy. Since I was watching BtVS at the time, it came to me when I was (predictably) analyzing Joss Whedon's method of delivering dialogue. Anachronistic, sure, but could it be done in fantasy...? I wanted to try.
There was a hook for Fenris, but I can't tell you what it is yet. It's a spoiler. The tattoos came later (and, amusingly, before I even saw Jack), but there was an element to Fenris that made me want to write him. His #1 is also significant, which is important as I mandated that every DA2 character would need a #1. It's a more personal story, after all, without a "YOU MUST SAVE THE WORLD NO YOU MUST" thing going on-- and thus the ciphers are that much more important.
Everything else after that fact is just mechanics and plot documents. And finding the voice. That's separate and not always easy, and sometimes doesn't come until you hit the Moment-- which could happen right away or halfway through writing the character.
Modifié par Ramante, 20 janvier 2011 - 01:13 .
Modifié par FenrisDeSolar, 20 janvier 2011 - 01:19 .
You are welcome.FenrisDeSolar wrote...
Oooh, I like this. Now I'm just getting more and more excited about this game. :3
Edit; THANKYOU, btw.
David Gaider wrote...
MagneticDawn wrote...
1. How tall is Fenris Compared to Fem!Hawke?
I don't know. I've never compared the two. I think elves are now the same height as humans, so he'd be a bit taller than FemHawke, but I could be wrong.2. Will Fenris ever wear shoes?
No. The artists have this thing about elves and shoes. Don't get me started.
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