This should be a question for David Gaider!...more like, will his tattoos be all over his body? Zevran said he had more, but he LIED! Just like he said he was skilled at lock picking (he is, but only once you put points into that talent!)IndigoWolfe wrote...
I wonder if Fenris has tattoos on his gluteous maximus? Probably swirly ones.
Modifié par Margaret_TheElf, 21 janvier 2011 - 01:59 .
Oh, Mr. Gaider... these happy tears are for you.
David Gaider wrote...
Dr. Doctor wrote...
The one question that I have for Dave, is how do you go about creating a character like Fenris? Is the major plot of the story hammered out before characters are introduced, or are general character profiles introduced before moving along with the story?
There are two things that need to exist when creating a companion:
1) A place in the story.
2) A hook.
#1 doesn't always happen if #2 is really strong, so sometimes we forget... and then we regret it later on. A place in the story means that there is something going on in the plot (or one of the plots) that is very central to what that character is about. They care about it, so you do too. Plots can be abstract things, especially when they relate to a world you have only a vicarious stake in, so followers serve to personify those conflicts.
But #2 is enough. There has to be a hook-- for me, not the player. Something that I want to say with a character, either a moment I know I want them to have, a twist on a romantic archetype, a thing that they have which makes me excited to write them. If there isn't a hook, no matter what we do the character will be boring. That can happen, too, in which case you have to create a hook. For yourself. Nobody else needs to care about it.
For Morrigan, the hook was the Dark Ritual. I knew that moment would exist almost before the rest of the game did. Alistair didn't start off having a hook, and I realized it after I began writing him. He was a distrustful, surly sort and I hated it. So... what to do? I wanted to make his dialogue fun, the sort of person who guys wouldn't hate because he was a buddy. Since I was watching BtVS at the time, it came to me when I was (predictably) analyzing Joss Whedon's method of delivering dialogue. Anachronistic, sure, but could it be done in fantasy...? I wanted to try.
There was a hook for Fenris, but I can't tell you what it is yet. It's a spoiler. The tattoos came later (and, amusingly, before I even saw Jack), but there was an element to Fenris that made me want to write him. His #1 is also significant, which is important as I mandated that every DA2 character would need a #1. It's a more personal story, after all, without a "YOU MUST SAVE THE WORLD NO YOU MUST" thing going on-- and thus the ciphers are that much more important.
Everything else after that fact is just mechanics and plot documents. And finding the voice. That's separate and not always easy, and sometimes doesn't come until you hit the Moment-- which could happen right away or halfway through writing the character.
Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
Mmm...dem hips.
lol, my mum came over to see what I was staring at, and she just stared at it with me for a few minutes. xD
I've been trying to think of opening lines that Fenris could say (Y'know, like Alistair would say 'Yeeees?' o 'Something you need, my dear?) so far I've got 'And you want?' (rival/neutral) 'Oh...hi.' (friend) and 'Need something, love?' (lover) i'm not feeling very creative atm. Dx
Modifié par Dr. Doctor, 21 janvier 2011 - 02:35 .
surfgirlusa_2006 wrote...
IndigoWolfe wrote...
Nah, Fenris won't die. Flemeth will just convince him to join some nefarious scheme and have him kill Hawke's sibling while Hawke watches helplessly.
Avada kedavra!
Random, but this made me wonder: does Fenris know when his "living weapon" powers are unleashed, or is it more of an unconscious thing/he does it inadvertently? Has he knowingly used his abilities to kill innocent people? How much has this all damaged him emotionally and mentally, anyway?
If he's someone who simply doesn't care who he hurts and enjoys doing so, my female mage Hawke is definitely going to have a chat with him
LittleMissAngel wrote...
@MagneticDawn
Lol, crazy land indeed. But I love it. It's just full of silliness and looping Fenris gifs, which I find hilariously awesome btw.
;)
:devil:
MagneticDawn wrote...
LittleMissAngel wrote...
@MagneticDawn
Lol, crazy land indeed. But I love it. It's just full of silliness and looping Fenris gifs, which I find hilariously awesome btw.
XDDDDDDDDD YEAH!!! HIGH FIVE!! We all are crazy and pprrrouudd!! My summoning horn and MRC's pool of tears!
With the fenris wiggles and game irrelevant fen-formation! <3<3<3<3<3
Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
High five!
*Hits computer screen* O_O
Really? My mother would do something like this...Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
Mmm...dem hips.
lol, my mum came over to see what I was staring at, and she just stared at it with me for a few minutes. xD
I've been trying to think of opening lines that Fenris could say (Y'know, like Alistair would say 'Yeeees?' o 'Something you need, my dear?) so far I've got 'And you want?' (rival/neutral) 'Oh...hi.' (friend) and 'Need something, love?' (lover) i'm not feeling very creative atm. Dx
This seems like a possibility. I've thought for a while that the magister used Fenris to take out rival mages and he was probably good at it because of a strong resistance to magic.bsbcaer wrote...
surfgirlusa_2006 wrote...
IndigoWolfe wrote...
Nah, Fenris won't die. Flemeth will just convince him to join some nefarious scheme and have him kill Hawke's sibling while Hawke watches helplessly.
Avada kedavra!
Random, but this made me wonder: does Fenris know when his "living weapon" powers are unleashed, or is it more of an unconscious thing/he does it inadvertently? Has he knowingly used his abilities to kill innocent people? How much has this all damaged him emotionally and mentally, anyway?
If he's someone who simply doesn't care who he hurts and enjoys doing so, my female mage Hawke is definitely going to have a chat with him
For me, the "living weapon" part is more of an increased resistence to magic rather than a power that can be unleashed...if someone is more resistent to magic (imagine a lightning bolt or flames being absorbed through tattoos and then the magic "grounded"), it makes them more lethal to mages
Hehehe. For me, our theme song is the new Britney Spears song "Hold It Against Me."Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
We're kinda...possessive over Fenris, aren't we? O_o I was just looking back a few pages, and peeps were getting jealous over some Merril/Fen stuff.
Makes me think Stephen by Ke$ha is our theme song.
Fenris, why won't you call me? I'm sitting here waiting. Why won't you call me? Fenris, I can't take rejection. I'm feeling pathetic. Why won't you call me?
Fenris...I'll knit you a sweater.
I wanna wrap you up in my love...forever.
I'll never let you go Fenris.
I'll never let go.
Wow. I scared myself with that last line
Modifié par surfgirlusa_2006, 21 janvier 2011 - 03:02 .
Thats is one of the greatist things I have ever heardlonewolfxxx wrote...
Also, I think the term Gaider-aid would be a nice addition.
(e.g. "I could really use a Gaider-aid after these long weeks of unanswered Fenris questions," or, "Has there been any Gaider-aid since I left?")
Modifié par Dante Angelo, 21 janvier 2011 - 03:02 .
I was under the impression his master was using him as a weapon and somehow had him trained? Don't ask me where this came from, I could just me making it up for all I know. I'll look around to see if there's any answer to this.lonewolfxxx wrote...
Is there any info on how Fenris learned how to use a sword? Or even how he obtained it? (I apologize if this has already been answered)
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