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Miserysky wrote...

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Lmfao, Varric trolls. Right. Can't post anywhere on the forums 'cept beneath our little bridge. Pack up, folks; we've been banished.

You do realize that a comment like this is trolling, right?  You could just post something on-topic, or not post at all, but you are trying to keep inciting reaction.  Positive comments lead to positive discussion.  It can be fun!

Of course I was trolling just now, but it was hardly not in good nature. My constructive posts have been blatantly ignored before, including a piece of (I sound incredibly arrogant saying this, I'm sure, but it still stands) fairly well-written, Fenris-centric fanfiction simply because Fenris wasn't humping Lady Hawke's leg.

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Experimentel wrote...

We have more interesting things - like wether or not they're going to kill Fenris off what David Gaider meant when he said Fenris was more stoic than Valen.


Seriously, the common and simple definition of the word and the philosophical definition of the word are very different.  The implications on Fenris' character if its the latter as opposed to the former are kind of hard to overstate.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

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I read the wiki before.. this is why I think its turkish.. cause of the map!


The reason that red part started to shrink - in Anatolia specifically - is because the Turks showed up, having invaded from the East.  

The Qunari are the Ottoman Turkish analog in Thedas because they are outsiders with a different religion and philosophy when compared to Thedas.  The dwindling, once glorious Tevinter Imperium is the Thedas' version of the declining Eastern Roman Empire due to the fragmentation of its former holdings (The Western Roman Empire would be the nation-states in existence now, such as Ferelden and Orlais) and the invasion of the Qunari.

It's a political metaphor, not an ethnic one.


You know, that's something I've never really thought about, but it makes a certain amount of sense.  I know there isn't a direct analog, but it would be kind of interesting if Kirkwall turned into the Thedas equivilent of Vienna...

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Elfinator, that's great. Scary, but great.

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bsbcaer wrote...

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But nobody here is making it a race either I think Dawn said off handedly that the Fenris thread might pass the Varric thread, that's it. I'm not understanding all the under handed snark and hostility all of a sudden


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yeahh! we go "zoom zoom zoom!" try the varric thread to beat us!

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OOOOooohhh, then by all means, draw what you want! ;D


Tricky, you have to admit that it could be seen as a bit of a challenge to the Varric thread....


Even so is it really that serious that the troops need to start coming over  with snark and backhanded comments just because someone said that? I'm sure it'd be pretty annoying everytime you guys said something pertaining to this thread and like 5 people came storming over every time lol. Secondly who flippin cares? People just talk more frequently over here it's just a number there's no need for this all this. 


All I was saying is that (a) it wasn't an offhand comment and (B) asking you to put yourself in someone else's shoes and see how it could be taken a different way than you portrayed it...

I don't think it's serious and I, personally, wouldn't mind if some of you guys came to the other thread...we do have some nice Varric-Fenris stuff going on and, while we do try to share as best we can, sometimes things slip through and we don't share everything with you guys...


Pfft it was offhand to me lol partially because I could barely understand what Dawn was saying, if I was a hardcore Varric fan I'd ignore it. And I do this alot actually like for example when you called us elf jocks and some other stuff about us not taking over Varric thursdays, I understood that as a joke, and sure as a challenge but I didn't storm the thread all pissed off and mad at you guys because you said it it was only in jest,  and even if  you were being serious I would've just shook my head and left.

As for coming over to the Varric thread, I glance around at times to see what you guys are talking about but meh it has nothing to do with Varric but just like the one chick prefers the vibe over there than here. You guys are really close knit and the general impression is that nobody is going to talk to you...ever.  

 

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Eizo?

I'm more altiaer.. Will not play the punk s***! past his hedonistic ways >:U

Hmm? who was it that said It may be Keena Reeves?! The matrix person!? That'd be awesome!

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Not all Dalish have Welsh accents, Merrill sounds Australian according to Gaider.

I would laugh throughout the game if we ended up with an "Elfinator".


I would laugh until my lungs fell out.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

The more important question to fangirls.

Indeed.  That's part of what makes them so boring and predictable.

To be fair, I've asked 'If character X was a type of meal/food...' to all the writers.

I don't think there's anything wrong with silly questions when the writers are sometimes reluctant to answer the more serious ones.

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Alistairschica wrote...

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From the Dragon Age wiki: Writer David Gaider has stated that the Tevinter Imperium is loosely influenced by the real-world Byzantine Empire, heir of the Roman Empire.

If he, or who ever decided it, based the language off of that also, Latin was their offical language until it changed to Greek. ....Which is why I'm hoping for the VA who did Ezio's voice in AC. I could listen to him tell me how to put a tree house together and it would amaze me to no end.


Posted Image'd  for the first time.  I feel honored.  Posted Image


This is why I wondered about whether the VA's nationality has to correspond with the accent of the character he/she is voicing.  Altough he is American, I would be just fine with Ezio's VA voicing Fenris Posted Image

*off topic: I'm tempted to name the male rogue I'm creating for my second playthrough 'Ezio.'*


And I fully support you naming him such.  Ezio is just....*fans self*

Italian, Spanish and most other languages, including English, derived from Latin.  It is also known as a dead language, which is why I thought it would be cool if they loosely based the Tevinter language from it.  Sort of fitting.  I'm just thinking to myself though.  And I'm not quite certain but I believe AC was a mixture of both Latin and Italian.  According to the Latin books I have and the phrases I've checked into, that is.

Back to Fenris love, though.  I'm just a diehard Ezio fan....because of his friggin voice.  Posted Image


I'm open to PM's about Ezio and AC.  Posted Image

Back on topic...

What about Fenris have we not discussed to death? 

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Experimentel wrote...

We have more interesting things - like wether or not they're going to kill Fenris off what David Gaider meant when he said Fenris was more stoic than Valen.


Seriously, the common and simple definition of the word and the philosophical definition of the word are very different.  The implications on Fenris' character if its the latter as opposed to the former are kind of hard to overstate.


I'm mildly confused by what you just did there.

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surfgirlusa_2006 wrote...

Alistairschica wrote...

surfgirlusa_2006 wrote...

Alistairschica wrote...

From the Dragon Age wiki: Writer David Gaider has stated that the Tevinter Imperium is loosely influenced by the real-world Byzantine Empire, heir of the Roman Empire.

If he, or who ever decided it, based the language off of that also, Latin was their offical language until it changed to Greek. ....Which is why I'm hoping for the VA who did Ezio's voice in AC. I could listen to him tell me how to put a tree house together and it would amaze me to no end.


Posted Image'd  for the first time.  I feel honored.  Posted Image


This is why I wondered about whether the VA's nationality has to correspond with the accent of the character he/she is voicing.  Altough he is American, I would be just fine with Ezio's VA voicing Fenris Posted Image

*off topic: I'm tempted to name the male rogue I'm creating for my second playthrough 'Ezio.'*


And I fully support you naming him such.  Ezio is just....*fans self*

Italian, Spanish and most other languages, including English, derived from Latin.  It is also known as a dead language, which is why I thought it would be cool if they loosely based the Tevinter language from it.  Sort of fitting.  I'm just thinking to myself though.  And I'm not quite certain but I believe AC was a mixture of both Latin and Italian.  According to the Latin books I have and the phrases I've checked into, that is.

Back to Fenris love, though.  I'm just a diehard Ezio fan....because of his friggin voice.  Posted Image


I'm open to PM's about Ezio and AC.  Posted Image

Back on topic...

What about Fenris have we not discussed to death? 


<--- Ezio fan

Italian is a fantastic language.

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I'm interested in the statement from the wiki that some Elves gave themselves over to slavery in order to provide for their families. (probably not the exact phrasing, mind you) That would be a super 'awww' moment if it was learned that Fenris had done so. And wasn't it talked about before...how OLD he might be? Were there any guesses?

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Blah, it's too late. x_x my brain has turned to tired moosh. I need to sleep. Night all.

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Alistairschica wrote...

I'm interested in the statement from the wiki that some Elves gave themselves over to slavery in order to provide for their families. (probably not the exact phrasing, mind you) That would be a super 'awww' moment if it was learned that Fenris had done so. And wasn't it talked about before...how OLD he might be? Were there any guesses?


That's a great question.

Does that lyruim give him some sort of enlonged life you think? Or would it shorten it, like the taint?

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bsbcaer wrote...

You know, that's something I've never really thought about, but it makes a certain amount of sense.  I know there isn't a direct analog, but it would be kind of interesting if Kirkwall turned into the Thedas equivilent of Vienna...


The Battle of Vienna is responsible for making breakfast great. 

But yeah, I've thought of that too.  I'm not sure how close the parallels are because I'm not nearly as down on my Dragon Age lore as I am with the real world history.

Maria Caliban wrote...

To be fair, I've asked 'If character X was a type of meal/food...' to all the writers.


It might be unfair of me, but I do tend to think there's a difference between asking silly but potentially informative questions and mindlessly self-indulgent meaningless questions.

Experimentel wrote...

I'm mildly confused by what you just did there.


Just stating my preference in terms of what I think would be an important question to speculate over/get a response from David Gaider on.  Whether or not Fenris survives Dragon Age 2 is something the game itself will have to answer and we can't actually know without playing the game - unless we actually want to be that spoiled.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 21 janvier 2011 - 06:46 .


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Calla S wrote...


Of course I was trolling just now, but it was hardly not in good nature. My constructive posts have been blatantly ignored before, including a piece of (I sound incredibly arrogant saying this, I'm sure, but it still stands) fairly well-written, Fenris-centric fanfiction simply because Fenris wasn't humping Lady Hawke's leg.


I read it, dear. It was really good.

*hug*

Don't get upset. I read it.

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You're all yelling that we're trolling and involving ourselves, you want to move the topic away and then you say something like this...

trickybunny wrote...

As for coming over to the Varric thread, I glance around at times to see what you guys are talking about but meh it has nothing to do with Varric but just like the one chick prefers the vibe over there than here. You guys are really close knit and the general impression is that nobody is going to talk to you...ever. 


Please stop being hypocritical.

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trickybunny wrote...

bsbcaer wrote...

trickybunny wrote...

bsbcaer wrote...

trickybunny wrote...

But nobody here is making it a race either I think Dawn said off handedly that the Fenris thread might pass the Varric thread, that's it. I'm not understanding all the under handed snark and hostility all of a sudden


MagneticDawn wrote...

yeahh! we go "zoom zoom zoom!" try the varric thread to beat us!

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@Tricky
OOOOooohhh, then by all means, draw what you want! ;D


Tricky, you have to admit that it could be seen as a bit of a challenge to the Varric thread....


Even so is it really that serious that the troops need to start coming over  with snark and backhanded comments just because someone said that? I'm sure it'd be pretty annoying everytime you guys said something pertaining to this thread and like 5 people came storming over every time lol. Secondly who flippin cares? People just talk more frequently over here it's just a number there's no need for this all this. 


All I was saying is that (a) it wasn't an offhand comment and (B) asking you to put yourself in someone else's shoes and see how it could be taken a different way than you portrayed it...

I don't think it's serious and I, personally, wouldn't mind if some of you guys came to the other thread...we do have some nice Varric-Fenris stuff going on and, while we do try to share as best we can, sometimes things slip through and we don't share everything with you guys...


As for coming over to the Varric thread, I glance around at times to see what you guys are talking about but meh it has nothing to do with Varric but just like the one chick prefers the vibe over there than here. You guys are really close knit and the general impression is that nobody is going to talk to you...ever.  



I'm sorry, but that was really, really mean. Please, let's refrain from statments like these. I understand you want to 'ignore' us, but please, no snarky comments. It won't do any good to nobody.

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trickybunny wrote...

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As for coming over to the Varric thread, I glance around at times to see what you guys are talking about but meh it has nothing to do with Varric but just like the one chick prefers the vibe over there than here. You guys are really close knit and the general impression is that nobody is going to talk to you...ever.  


What's funny (at least to me) is that it feels as if this thread is a little more cliquey (for lack of a better word) than the Varric thread...But, that impression can feel like it's been reinforced by the speed of the thread.

Feel free to jump in over there...we don't bite and we have come up with some nice stuff involving both characters. 

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Didn't we just establish a page ago that no rivalry existed? Let's not go insighting one now..

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Dave of Canada wrote...

You're all yelling that we're trolling and involving ourselves, you want to move the topic away and then you say something like this...

trickybunny wrote...

As for coming over to the Varric thread, I glance around at times to see what you guys are talking about but meh it has nothing to do with Varric but just like the one chick prefers the vibe over there than here. You guys are really close knit and the general impression is that nobody is going to talk to you...ever. 


Please stop being hypocritical.


lol how am I being hypocritical? I've never came over to the Varric thread with snark. And I'm not being snarky here that's just the impression I get sorry?

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Experimentel wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Experimentel wrote...

We have more interesting things - like wether or not they're going to kill Fenris off what David Gaider meant when he said Fenris was more stoic than Valen.


Seriously, the common and simple definition of the word and the philosophical definition of the word are very different.  The implications on Fenris' character if its the latter as opposed to the former are kind of hard to overstate.


I'm mildly confused by what you just did there.


The common definition of stoic/stoicism is one thing (thing A), the philosophical definition of stoic/stoicism is another thing completely (thing B).  The implications on his character is going to be enormous if everyone assumes he's thing A when he's really thing B

Modifié par bsbcaer, 21 janvier 2011 - 06:49 .


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trickybunny wrote...

lol how am I being hypocritical?


You were telling people to stop and then you immediatelty insult afterward?

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bsbcaer wrote...

The common definition of stoic/stoicism is one thing (thing A), the philosophical definition of stoic/stoicism is another thing completely (thing B).  The implications on his character is going to be enormous if everyone assumes he's thing A when he's really thing B


Precisely.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 21 janvier 2011 - 06:52 .


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trickybunny wrote...
lol how am I being hypocritical? I've never came over to the Varric thread with snark. And I'm not being snarky here that's just the impression I get sorry?


As for coming over to the Varric thread, I glance around at times to see what you guys are talking about but meh it has nothing to do with Varric but just like the one chick prefers the vibe over there than here. You guys are really close knit and the general impression is that nobody is going to talk to you...ever. 


You guys are really close knit and the general impression is that nobody is going to talk to you...ever.


nobody is going to talk to you...ever.


I'd give my opinion, but I'd probably end up being banned. I'd rather not.