littlenikki wrote...
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
So what would you do is Bethany makes moves on Fen?
*starts humming*
Lord help the mister! Who comes between me and mah sister!
And lord help the sister...who comes between me and my man!
Sister...sister..sister...don't come between me and my man!
ankuu wrote...
Herr Uhl wrote...
ankuu wrote...
One thing is to express your opinion and another to incriminate someone of heightism (which is a real issue in some countries, believe it or not). I saw a documentary about chinese people getting surgery to become taller. The doctors would cut the leg bone and put some wires for 1 year until the bone rejuvenates...hard to explain in english
A new ism learned.
It is great how many of life's problems can be summed up with ism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heightism
The term is around for a while...
In my language tho, we don't have many of the ism words.
LdyShayna wrote...
*pokes Fenris out of curiosity*
*feels bad to cause brooding*
*goes back to being invisible*
Yes, I know this is a month old. And?
Modifié par Tamyn, 21 janvier 2011 - 08:37 .
littlenikki wrote...
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
So what would you do is Bethany makes moves on Fen?
*starts humming*
Lord help the mister! Who comes between me and mah sister!
And lord help the sister...who comes between me and my man!
Sister...sister..sister...don't come between me and my man!
Tamyn wrote...
Hi LadyShayna!
Good to see you around.
Fenris is supposedly going to be like Valen, which is a good thing.
PC: "I get the feeling you don't like me."
Valen: "Untrue."
)
Modifié par dirtsa90, 21 janvier 2011 - 07:24 .
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
So what would you do is Bethany makes moves on Fen?
Beerfish wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
*cringes*
Yikes.
My issue was more with the whitewashing of the whole thread. Yes its true that some people were out of line but saying no one should've said any critcism? Too close to censorship for my tastes.
lol, have a look at these forums and the threads and posts that BioWare allows to stay in existence. They are about as benevolent as you can be on a PRIVATE forum where people have agreed to adhere to the terms of the forum. Censorship is good thing, there should be a lot more of it on forums like these.
It might have more robust third person shooter mechanics than the first, but the lack of MAKO makes it worse overall.Ryzaki wrote...
Right because everyone knows ME2 isn't a better game because of the criticisms of the first one. Nope everyone should prais BW and never dare point out somehting they thought could've been done better in the games.Beerfish wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
*cringes*
Yikes.
My issue was more with the whitewashing of the whole thread. Yes its true that some people were out of line but saying no one should've said any critcism? Too close to censorship for my tastes.
lol, have a look at these forums and the threads and posts that BioWare allows to stay in existence. They are about as benevolent as you can be on a PRIVATE forum where people have agreed to adhere to the terms of the forum. Censorship is good thing, there should be a lot more of it on forums like these.
Dude are you serious?
Yellow Words wrote...
littlenikki wrote...
Lucy_Glitter wrote...
So what would you do is Bethany makes moves on Fen?
*starts humming*
Lord help the mister! Who comes between me and mah sister!
And lord help the sister...who comes between me and my man!
Sister...sister..sister...don't come between me and my man!
I can't stop laughing!! You win the internet.
I appreciate the cautionary word, and it's very kind of you to think of us, but I think many of us had an experience in DAO and/or the ME series that prepared us for how things can turn out. In the end, I'm quite sure that there will be something I love about Fenris, if not the things I'm hoping to love. I've come to expect that from your writing, as I have consistently loved your characters for a long time. Even the ones I liked less than others, I still found interesting.David Gaider wrote...
I must admit, it's a bit of concern.
Not the "don't die on me" bit, just the idea that you guys may be
building this character up into something he isn't or can't possibly
be-- and then ending up disappointed not because he isn't great but
because he isn't what you assumed. I realize you can't help it, and
certainly appreciate the excitement, but if I were you I'd be careful
how much you invest in your assumptions.
Me, too. If Fenris were like that, I'd be shocked, but would be fine with it as well.tankgirly wrote...
@Tootles FTW *is also a huge fan of Bishop.*
I like all of those things. He just looks--immediately unusual. The white hair instead of yellow hair makes a big difference for me; I don't think "surfer" like I did with Zev. Normally I hate light hair with black eyebrows, but instead of thinking "hair dye" I think "those white veins... what was done to him sucked all the color out of his hair. Cool." It's an immediate visual punch, that. Odd, striking, but you can guess at the reasons right away.trickybunny wrote...
So quick question fenaddicts what exactly is it about Fenris that you find attractive? Like physically his angst ridden past put to the side for a second. Is it the caramel toned skin? the snowy white hair? the lyrium scars? Inquiring minds wanna know...
Are you sure it's not "it has to be"?MagneticDawn wrote...
He's saying "It can't be!" I have watched his lips move and move and move... and who ever said that first, you were right...
but the question is.. "It can't be" To what?
Oh, Maker. That is the true hip-notoad.Upsettingshorts wrote...
I'll just leave this here. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]
I don't hate you. Far from it. I admire your intelligence, your outspokenness, and even your appreciation of chest hair.Calla S wrote...
The Fenris thread hates me enough. I would not incur further wrath.
Modifié par Wynne, 21 janvier 2011 - 08:31 .
Wynne wrote...
I don't know--I always kinda felt like that Varric and Fenris are both the underdogs. Varric is a dwarf, which for some incomprehensible reason certain people think means he can't be appealing to anyone, while Fenris is--according to some people--too fruity, too pretty, too "Zevran", not manly enough, or whatever. I think both lines of thought are marveously stupid. So I've always kind of felt like we should be actively supportive of each other. Maybe I'm alone in that, I don't know, but I do feel we're in the same boat and if somebody gets disappointed, I'm going to feel bad for them no matter who it is.
PoisonTheCity wrote...
Wynne wrote...
I don't know--I always kinda felt like that Varric and Fenris are both the underdogs. Varric is a dwarf, which for some incomprehensible reason certain people think means he can't be appealing to anyone, while Fenris is--according to some people--too fruity, too pretty, too "Zevran", not manly enough, or whatever. I think both lines of thought are marveously stupid. So I've always kind of felt like we should be actively supportive of each other. Maybe I'm alone in that, I don't know, but I do feel we're in the same boat and if somebody gets disappointed, I'm going to feel bad for them no matter who it is.
/signed.
Great post. I've been thinking the same thing for a while now.
Modifié par ankuu, 21 janvier 2011 - 09:59 .
Xewaka wrote...
It might have more robust third person shooter mechanics than the first, but the lack of MAKO makes it worse overall.Ryzaki wrote...
Right because everyone knows ME2 isn't a better game because of the criticisms of the first one. Nope everyone should prais BW and never dare point out somehting they thought could've been done better in the games.Beerfish wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
*cringes*
Yikes.
My issue was more with the whitewashing of the whole thread. Yes its true that some people were out of line but saying no one should've said any critcism? Too close to censorship for my tastes.
lol, have a look at these forums and the threads and posts that BioWare allows to stay in existence. They are about as benevolent as you can be on a PRIVATE forum where people have agreed to adhere to the terms of the forum. Censorship is good thing, there should be a lot more of it on forums like these.
Dude are you serious?
Dr. Doctor wrote...
So according to a new interview (stickied on forum page) our companions will have their own lives in Kirkwall, and we'll see them around the city interacting with one another. Where do you suppose we'd find Fenris?
Wynne wrote...
So, just the way he's standing in that photo, his facial expression--I wonder how much of that drew fan attention. That very slight ironic smile on his face, mixed with determination... that intrigues me no end.
That said, the idea of a young Fenris does intrigue me. And I needed a rest after all that studying for the neuroscience exam that I did. So, here goes. Young Fenris comes out of the fog of fictional history:
I think he looks nice that way, too, but I like the weathered version MUCH better; he has more character that way. Less pretty, more interesting. This is coming from a girl who usually prefers slightly younger guys who are sorta pretty, so that's saying something. I just really like his design.
Though, looking at the younger version, it does make me wonder if the lyrium affected... er, never mind. Let's not go to that naughty place again. :innocent:
Wynne wrote...
I don't hate you. Far from it. I admire your intelligence, your outspokenness, and even your appreciation of chest hair.Calla S wrote...
The Fenris thread hates me enough. I would not incur further wrath.
But if I came into the Varric thread and posted art of him snuggling Bethany's bosom and squealed over their chemistry, then expressed joy at the thought of him romancing Isabela after making it clear that I didn't want to see him as an LI for Hawke... sure, I'd only be expressing my opinion, and I'd be entirely on-topic, but--I wouldn't expect to be loved for it. Actually, I just simply wouldn't do it. That strikes me as--not entirely sensitive, since I know what many of the people in that thread are hoping.
Regardless of how you meant it, it sort of gives the impression you would cheer if we got our fangirl hearts broken, which I think caused any tension you may've sensed.
Tomorrow, the devs could announce something like, "Sorry, but Varric and Anders are the LIs this time around. Fenris will be romancing Bethany or no one at all." Doubtful, but if they did, there would be a lot of sad girls in this thread. And it would be all the more bitter, feeling like people were laughing at us for hoping.
I don't know--I always kinda felt like that Varric and Fenris are both the underdogs. Varric is a dwarf, which for some incomprehensible reason certain people think means he can't be appealing to anyone, while Fenris is--according to some people--too fruity, too pretty, too "Zevran", not manly enough, or whatever. I think both lines of thought are marveously stupid. So I've always kind of felt like we should be actively supportive of each other. Maybe I'm alone in that, I don't know, but I do feel we're in the same boat and if somebody gets disappointed, I'm going to feel bad for them no matter who it is.
Modifié par ceruleancrescent, 21 janvier 2011 - 09:05 .
Wynne wrote...
I like all of those things. He just looks--immediately unusual. The white hair instead of yellow hair makes a big difference for me; I don't think "surfer" like I did with Zev. Normally I hate light hair with black eyebrows, but instead of thinking "hair dye" I think "those white veins... what was done to him sucked all the color out of his hair. Cool." It's an immediate visual punch, that. Odd, striking, but you can guess at the reasons right away.trickybunny wrote...
So quick question fenaddicts what exactly is it about Fenris that you find attractive? Like physically his angst ridden past put to the side for a second. Is it the caramel toned skin? the snowy white hair? the lyrium scars? Inquiring minds wanna know...
Both the concept art and the in-game 'translation' of it speak of a character with a little bit of mystery to him. Somebody who doesn't immediately make it obvious what he thinks or feels, and whose subtlety tends to make those times when he is unsubtle all the more impactful. I cherish that, possibly because it's a challenge, and it's an area I have a knack for. I am drawn to people who have trouble expressing who they are or what they feel precisely because it's something I'm good at.
So I can't completely separate the art from what I think about the character. But it's as you say--Fenris isn't traditionally handsome This to me does not look like the face of an untried pretty boy. He's handsome, but he looks like he's lived and had to fight off despair for a long time.
You know, Mehrabian's rule is interesting here--the 7-38-55 rule. He felt that 7% of communication is what you say, 38% is your tone of voice, and 55% is body language. Some have taken it further and said that body language is actually 65% or more of communication; we all make unconscious judgments of people based on it. For instance, you see a girl hunched over in her chair, eyes down, arms around herself... you're immediately going to realize she's either sad or nervous; her facial expression and eyes will tell you which.
So, just the way he's standing in that photo, his facial expression--I wonder how much of that drew fan attention. That very slight ironic smile on his face, mixed with determination... that intrigues me no end.
That said, the idea of a young Fenris does intrigue me. And I needed a rest after all that studying for the neuroscience exam that I did. So, here goes. Young Fenris comes out of the fog of fictional history:
-snip-
I think he looks nice that way, too, but I like the weathered version MUCH better; he has more character that way. Less pretty, more interesting. This is coming from a girl who usually prefers slightly younger guys who are sorta pretty, so that's saying something. I just really like his design.
Though, looking at the younger version, it does make me wonder if the lyrium affected... er, never mind. Let's not go to that naughty place again. :innocent:
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