The Official Fenris Discussion thread
#11326
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 05:45
Dream of shiny elves with your 95% sanity!
#11327
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 05:46
#11328
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 05:47
or i could just set them on fire burn them a live:innocent:fighterchicks wrote...
kitterkat wrote...
true because if any other mage comes to close to fen i will freeze them :innocent:fighterchicks wrote...
kitterkat wrote...
how fen will be a battery for the mages in the groupMost Definitely Sane wrote...
Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
@MDS
It's OK. But yay! More sweets!
*Puts them on the table for everyone*
Awesome!
So what are we all talking about, again?
What is this nonsense about mages?! Only one mage! Only for Hawkette.
Exactly! Now here is a sentiment I can stand firmly behind.
#11329
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 05:48
#11330
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 05:49
Interesting party banters would ensue as well.
#11331
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 05:53
that would be rockin' i seem to remaber somewhere reading that your campaions will not stay with you all those years correct me if i am wrongDeliciously-Demonic wrote...
I'd imagine Isabela and Carver'd spit some choice words at him if that did happen (As Izzie will be mah BFF and Carver is Hawke's bro xD). And Hawke'd punch him. But let him back in the party.
Interesting party banters would ensue as well.
#11332
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:03
Tashash wrote...
fighterchicks wrote...
All mages with the exception of my Hawke will inevitably die by some strange force, then Fenris will only have one mage to recharge.
The strange force scientifically know as "Mybloodyhotelfbuggeroffbiarch".
My Bloody Hotel F bugger off bi arch?
#11333
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:03
kitterkat wrote...
that would be rockin' i seem to remaber somewhere reading that your campaions will not stay with you all those years correct me if i am wrongDeliciously-Demonic wrote...
I'd imagine Isabela and Carver'd spit some choice words at him if that did happen (As Izzie will be mah BFF and Carver is Hawke's bro xD). And Hawke'd punch him. But let him back in the party.
Interesting party banters would ensue as well.
Fenris won't always be with us? But...but...but...
bsbcaer wrote...
Tashash wrote...
fighterchicks wrote...
All mages with the exception of my Hawke will inevitably die by some strange force, then Fenris will only have one mage to recharge.
The strange force scientifically know as "Mybloodyhotelfbuggeroffbiarch".
My Bloody Hotel F bugger off bi arch?
Heh, I thought the same thing at first and couldn't figure it out for a bit. Sad...
Modifié par fighterchicks, 23 janvier 2011 - 06:05 .
#11334
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:05
bsbcaer wrote...
buggirl wrote...
bsbcaer wrote...
Well, basing it on the premise that Fenris lost his memory with the lyrium branding rather than having a constant memory loss (a la Memento), it's certainly possible that Fen choose to not so much purge negative emotions but rather focus on positve ones (or limit negative ones) as a way of surviving his enslavement. We don't know how/when he got away from his master, but it seems a safe assumption that he did not "pull a Wolverine" and kill everyone the second after he got branded, but rather spent some time acting as a weapon for his master. Limiting or attempting to be free of negative emotions could be a way for him to deal with what he was forced to endure and then forced to carry out his master's will.
I think of it in a similar way as the question of whether or not Fenris has religion. Religion is certainly one method of dealing with a highly damaging situation (either fully embracing it or fully distancing oneself away.
On the question of a "trigger", it does bring to mind the question as to whether the magister has/had a way of mentally controlling Fenris (whether or not it has to do with the branding is another question). It would certainly be a bit of a downer (especially for this thread) if Fenris' master is part of the main plot, forcing the PC/rest of party to fight and kill Fenris and the magister...
This is where it gets interesting because his stoicism then would become more of a coping mechanism than the adaptation of a particular phylosophy to his behavior (to use your previous example - I chose to be happy because it is something I believe in vs I chose to be happy because the alternative would destroy me).
I will write more in a short time - pup needs walk.
No problem, you certainly don't want pup doing his/her business on the floor. Im just glad to have someone engage in this withWas just about to write a note reminding me not to talk philosophy in this thread before you responded the first time
Just a quick note...It could have started as merely a coping mechanism (negative emotions = destruction of self), but shifted into a belief after coping in that way for so long...
Yes, there is also the possibility that Fenris needs to control his emotions because could be the only thing that is truly "his." If he did already act as a weapon for the Magister, there had to be some kind of safeguard assure his obedience and precluding any free will.
Regarding Fenris' religion, the main question is that we do not when he lost his memory, how extensive it memory loss is and how long he has been a slave. Religious affiliation usually begins with exposure to the family/environment belief system and sometime changing later in life. There has to be a point of reference, what would be intriguing is if he developed his own ideas of a God/Goddess because of his experience.
Also, from the little blurb we could make the presumption that he remembers his time with the Magister, so he could have had the opportunity to adopt a particular faith during that time.
You comment on the "trigger" just brought memories of The Manchurian Candidate (the original), in that particular case the memory loss was very specific and deliberate.
#11335
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:07
bsbcaer wrote...
Tashash wrote...
fighterchicks wrote...
All mages with the exception of my Hawke will inevitably die by some strange force, then Fenris will only have one mage to recharge.
The strange force scientifically know as "Mybloodyhotelfbuggeroffbiarch".
My Bloody Hotel F bugger off bi arch?
Damn!
I suck
#11336
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:11
i said correct me if i am wrong but this i pulled from the back of my head so i could be wrong. and this was like way back when the lenth of the game was anneced . but don't worry we will know in march .fighterchicks wrote...
kitterkat wrote...
that would be rockin' i seem to remaber somewhere reading that your campaions will not stay with you all those years correct me if i am wrongDeliciously-Demonic wrote...
I'd imagine Isabela and Carver'd spit some choice words at him if that did happen (As Izzie will be mah BFF and Carver is Hawke's bro xD). And Hawke'd punch him. But let him back in the party.
Interesting party banters would ensue as well.
Fenris won't always be with us? But...but...but...
#11337
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:16
#11338
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:20
#11339
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:21
yes it is but patice is a viture which i saddly have little of, but we must wait unless we kidnap The Grand Poobah and toutre him for info.fighterchicks wrote...
That's too far away!
Modifié par kitterkat, 23 janvier 2011 - 06:21 .
#11340
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:21
#11341
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:23
rNEBL wrote...
i think fenris maybe a werewolf in fits his name and class (warrior) may be a bezerker specilazation. just a thought please dont flame me
Sorry, I'm probably burstin' your bubble but uhh...
David Gaider wrote...
Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
Can
we have some nice information about Fen? Please? Pretty please? Pretty
please with chocolate sundaes and lots of cherries on top?
*Puppy eyes*
Fenris
has nothing to do with Fen'Harel other than the root of the Tevinter
word "Fenris" sharing a root with the elven word "Fen'Harel". The
Tevinter language absorbed a number of elven words, one among them being
"fen" -- for "wolf".
No, this still does not make Fenris a werewolf.
#11342
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:23
#11343
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:23
rNEBL wrote...
i think fenris maybe a werewolf in fits his name and class (warrior) may be a bezerker specilazation. just a thought please dont flame me
I'm pretty sure I read David Gaider say he wasn't a werewolf. I'll try to find the link...
#11344
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:24
#11345
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:24
Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
Okay, by a show of hand, who else is secretly that a Fenris romance will be angsty?
I love angst....somehow it makes some of the romance seem more rewarding...and passionate
#11346
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:25
Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
Okay, by a show of hand, who else is secretly that a Fenris romance will be angsty?
No secret here. If Fenris is an LI and there is a rivarly path for it I am totally taking it.
#11347
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:26
trickybunny wrote...
rNebl: I think Gaider debunked that already way back on the single digit pages lol
Nah, double digits, I think. Or perhaps it was shortly after 100...
#11348
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:29
ceruleancrescent wrote...
Deliciously-Demonic wrote...
Okay, by a show of hand, who else is secretly that a Fenris romance will be angsty?
I love angst....somehow it makes some of the romance seem more rewarding...and passionate
Yes, please!
#11349
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:31
Madame Rose Crimsynn wrote...
trickybunny wrote...
rNebl: I think Gaider debunked that already way back on the single digit pages lol
Nah, double digits, I think. Or perhaps it was shortly after 100...
Was it? It feels so long ago lol
#11350
Posté 23 janvier 2011 - 06:33
I was just replaying DAO so it poped to mind thank you for indulging me
Modifié par rNEBL, 23 janvier 2011 - 06:35 .





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